Alpo

I know that Satanists exist and really believe what they practice. I have known several of them. Some branches of Satanism definitely engage in animal sacrifice, and probably human sacrifice as well. The Temple of Set is real and I am quite sure that its members really believe in it. The numerous accounts of Satanic ritual abuse by survivors seem believable, largely because they tend to be so similar.

What I am not sure of is why the author of this website seems totally incredulous of the things mentioned above. 1,000s of children do go missing - what becomes of them? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3425073/At-10-000-refugee-children-vanished-sex-work-slavery-trade-arriving-Europe.html Occasionally cases of snuff films are publicized - how many others are there that we never hear about? We often hear of cases in which 10s of 1000s of CP images are found on someone's computer - where are all the victims?

Even if Ted Gunderson was a disinformation agent, much of what he said would have to be true for him to gain any credibility at all. If he told nothing but lies, he would be useless.

These things make me question the motives and mindset of the website author, even though I know it contains a wealth of important information, much of which can't be found elsewhere.

wgvdl

There has been a strange hiatus in the history of Joel van der Reijdens "ISGP"-website. Van der Reijden started it all in 2004 and since then updated regulary and added article after article.

However, in 2010, van der Reijden out of the sudden claimed that the website would be at risk and asked regular viewers to back it up. It was taken down soon after. All was left was a referencere at Wikispooks containing a zip-file of the content so far.

After 4 years of silence van der Reijden relaunched the ISGP-site in 2014 but never added further comments on what had happened and why he had shut down.

Imho he must have been seriously threatened during these years.

Alpo

It is interesting to note that this website lists the following as what NOT to believe:

"Genuine high level Satanic conspiracies (ritual abuse comes close, which may have begun as a Cold War psywar experiment to induce DID in subjects, but potentially is bogus too).

Thousands of children, or even more, permanently disappearing each year into snuff networks. The Ted Gundersons and David Ickes of this world forget to mention that 90% or more of "disappearing" children are runaways who resurface within days or weeks.

Everything that has come out of Ted Gunderson's mouth."

justanotherpizza

So the question is does pizzagate become invalid if child abuse networks exist without a religious background? I think corruption and collusion could still be evident. But I disagree with Rejden that there is no evidence of satanic philosophies present in the elite, regardless if they use many other names.

justanotherpizza

This website is the real deal. Been following it for years. One of the most interesting write ups he's done is on the "4 establishment model" , outlining 4 major power networks in the western world.

  • Liberal Establishment (CIA and State Department)
  • Conservative Establishment (CIA and Pentagon)
  • Vatican-Paneuropa network (Opus Dei and Knights of Malta)
  • Zionist Establishment (Israel and its worldwide communities and U.S. Lobby)

https://isgp-studies.com/intro#four-establishment-model

JoJoVoat

And more Satanic Calendars... :-) https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1535978