evilhillary

I would love to do a followup to my popular pizzagate video (that youtube has demonitized but miraculously not removed) - I'm the one that does the 3d pepe videos, blackpilled.com etc. My trouble has always been it seems like there is a constant flow of information and it's hard to grasp all of it in addition to the other research etc I have to do to keep the lights on. If there is a concise summary of where we are with info that has come in post election (and I think silsby needs her own video, and maybe i need to do a series because there is just so much) please point me in the right direction and I'll get started on something.

aaallaboard

This an amazig video on The Next HOPE (2010) - Hacking Terrorist Networks Logically and Emotionally

there is a lot of amazing infiltration and influencing theory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UGdnA1FppM

aaallaboard

4Chan has declared war against ISIS and have a fascinating strategy thread. Posting comment : http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/106816690#p106819286

/dvg/- Official Deus Vult General

Story so far:

/pol/ tricks the msm into believing Pissgate is real

Stefan Molyneux Challenges 4chan to takedown ISIS

A dubbs post decided to accept

A tripps confirmed our cause

A quadds confirmed that we are going to war

Molyneux sees that we accept his challenge, thus confirming he’s one of us

/pol/ decided the angle will be to prove ISIS has turned homosex due to a lack of women

The fire is rising

Its been 24hrs

http://gizmodo.com/4chan-declares-war-on-isis-1791119122

We have come up with the Final Battle Plan after a democratic vote:

We are going to paint a picture that ISIS has no women supporters left to keep as sex slave so they’ve turned to homosex

Ideas to combine with this:

-Teenagers and children of new members are forced into sex slavery at risk of death

-The leader of ISIS has his own private boy harem that is overlooked by members

-We make #ISisGay trending

Ideas on our strategy so far:

1.Target ISIS online presence

  1. Demoralize ISIS sympathizers

  2. Point out any ISIS sympathizers

  3. Create believable stories involving ISIS (slander)

  4. Take all that we know of conspiracies and meme them into existence

What you can do:

Bump the thread

Create twitter accounts to tweet out memes (makes sure to do so anonmyously and stay safe, do not use personal accounts)

Create memes that perpetuate the plan (#ISisGay,etc)

Spread the word (/k/, /sg/, make other threads linking to this one, etc.)

Participate and give us ideas to add onto our plan. Its always a good idea to have open options if things go sour

Remember:

1.Ignore all shills

  1. Although we are at war with the Luggenpresse, we can fight a war on two fronts

  2. By going to war and imploding/destroying ISIS we can expose any conspiracy theories (US Influence) to be true

  3. Stay safe

We need more memes and presence to be safely established. War has been declared /pol/. This will be our first international military campaign. Will you answer the call?

Fateswebb

I know that, and I meant you as in anyone who were to do such a thing, Ryan has already done this, and he was who you were responding to I think, but really just anyone who wanted to take on the idea of the shirts..

Fateswebb

Yeah, surely there are other solutions like maybe apps, or something that is not only easier to use but easier to obscure identity on. I'm not saying we need some super hyper security but you're right IRC just puts it out there, as well may be more technical than most would want to mess with.

Fateswebb

What's the lawyer going to do? We're just discussing things and really we're mostly anonymous. Not sure what he is gonna do I guess. Sure they're watching and even interacting I understand that but. Not real sure what the lawyer would do.

Fateswebb

2012 I believe

Fateswebb

I like the irc channel idea, clearly the shilling system is well organized paid, and determined. We should do similar. A chat room whether it's IRC, or another medium is a great way to not only organize. But to also be able to discuss in real time, answer questions of those not understanding things and to keep interest. Great idea, it should be easy to access from mobile or PC as well.

Fateswebb

Yes if you were to do something like this, my opinion is that you should make them at cost without any profit and make that clear that no profit is being made, as well I would do it as anonymously as I can, and not promote the shirts on this site. Or at least not with an account you use to also debate. People really start questioning your motives when they are exposed and appear to be money.

Monkstar1

This. I believe stickers are a better method. Cheap, light, easy to hide/apply, and are visible 24-7 (until removed). A shirt? A shirt?! No.

aaallaboard

what is your suggestion?

happyme73db

Excellent suggestions by all....

aaallaboard

I don't have the skills, but if you can vide edit, have a look at this or add comments and suggestions.

Some one should make a simple 30 second video, set up a youtube channel and call it "Wikileaks Theatre". Here is a suggestion for the first video.

30 second video "Wikileaks Theatre: Act One - If spirit cooking be the food of love..."

background music some classical sophisticated elegant stuff maybe chopin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liTSRH4fix4

Intro credits vaguely shakespearean/comical/memeworthy repeat title, A true story from Wikileaks email id 15893, June 28th 2015. add "Scene 1: A tragedy in 3 courses", i dont know im riffing here.

Enter stage right, The brothers podesta and Lady Marina Ambramovic

Get headshots of the podestas and marina. Read the text of the email as dialogue in a play - https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/15893

cut to "Scene 2: At Dinner" text turn over to edit the most distrubing bits of footage from this spirit cooking performance - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TYhBbQBpnI

Then juxtapose it with the soundtrack, maybe have dinner party chatter. Or intersperse with some footage of them as individuals doing something innoucuos.

http://sli.mg/8aI9Rc

Include these links in the description - https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/15893

I think this wikileaks theatre idea could work very well

Fateswebb

Yes I like the idea of a Wikileaks related channel. This is a very good idea, or even a Wikileaks workbench channel where maybe not as cool as your idea with the drama reinactment, but just a channel that picks one email at a time and investigates it... great idea!

bodthedog

I think we need to target MSM comment sections, the guardian and BBC etc. And we need to beat them with logic. No hating or anger, just simply defeating them with logic. We should be in numbers and hit them on a sunday so they are less shills about. It's very easy, they have no arguments, and we have many. They can only call us conspiracy theorists, at which point we can tell people to think them selves, politely ask them to look at the information for them selves and make their own minds up.

SturdyGal

These are great suggestions. My two cents: Think not like us, but the people you want to convince who are still asleep. Also, don't use any tag that takes another group's mojo, like #LittleLivesMatter. The BLM and their sympathizers then immediately put you in the alt right Trump camp because they read it like #BlueLivesMatter or #AllLivesMatter. I hang with these folks all the time and they are very binary and will harden against the cause if they think it is altRight. Find a way to make this about feelings - they are very motivated by feelings and rights as they understand them. Tell the story of trafficking and pedophilia and its various faces and personal damage. Get the lock on the feeling and then there will be willingness to get the facts.

crazyworld

I couldn't agree more with you mate! This unprecedented citizen investigation has seen incredible and positive leads, it's time to take action. I'll leave my opinion here, and highlight that, it's just my opinion on course of action .

I believe our ultimate goal should be to conduct a white march after inauguration, in DC or NYC, or maybe both. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_March If this is done properly, It's impossible to ignore it. It's the ultimate call for attention by MSM, authorities, politicians, other citizens, etc. It worked in Belgium at the time of Dutroux, I don't see why it won't work in the U.S.

Now I also believe in two other things: First, we won't get anywhere with 10k people, we need at least 20 times that. These next 9 days should be all about spreading awareness, in a non-evasive, non-partisan, and non-aggressive way. I agree with the social media and meme strategy. Second, we need to drop the word pizzagate. Very serious about this, this word is already widely known, it's been immensely attacked and I'm quite sure that now it only brings negative connotation to our case. Suggestions: https://twitter.com/FBI/status/819379382045114369 We go with what the FBI tweeted yesterday - #EndTrafficking #HumanTraffickingAwareness. Dropping the word will not only help to grow awareness in a new and different way, but it will also label us as "concerned citizens" instead of "conspiracy theorists", which will make a much stronger case for us.

Cheers for all and keep up the good work

aaallaboard

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1519152/7459817

that is excellent- reposting the quote for visibiliyt @ibertyvs From the top:

need far more people making memes about connections we've uncovered, and historical examples of child pedophilia being covered up. People need short single concrete points of evidence to be persuaded along with the overarching examples.

When we see something like Twitter or Google protecting / condoning a pedophile network, then we need look up the advertizers / sponsors of said platform / videos. ...(see 2nd paragraph in comment above to review specifics.)

ATTITUDE ADVICE: "I want to raise your awareness" most will bargain this down to something much less than awareness and concern. If you instead go forth, hitting people in the pocket books, making people feel guilty for letting this shit continue, then you'll wind up negotiating down to "being concerned" about the issue. Do you see? You have to aim higher than the goal you want to hit.

Part of your awareness campaign needs to be showing that the "authorities" can't be trusted to do shit. FBI and police have been covering it up, and that's why it's been allowed to get this bad.

Think about what your enemies are saying, and find a contrary position that's more sensational. Do things that provoke more interest than demand "investigation" be done. What the hell is the common person supposed to do if your goal is to demand an investigation? You have to outline most people an action they can participate in right then -- preferably one that's as easy as spreading a meme or changing a social media avatar to raise awareness. Once they've committed the first easy step, some of them will want to do more. Create a series of actions people can do to help, clearly outlined, and graduated in difficulty / time investment. This way your supporters can work their way up to the level of investment they can give. ...

They've been brainwashed into thinking they're helpless and overwhelmed. So, give them some hope, give them something they can actually do, even if it's very small. (Yes, this is the topic of another post I've made, requesting Active Investigators to put out TASK lists of bite-sized chunks others can coordinate their fact checking and digging with, to ensure coverage and avoid duplication of effort.)

once you have evidence that something bad is happening in a state or even a city you don't have to call for the federal powers to perform an investigation. You can notify the agency in that state or city that is responsible for investigating corruption.

iamthepizzanow

Focus on one issue at a time, and release one at a time, IMO. Kind of like the way WL does.just has to be compiled correctly and professionally. It's too soon for that on some things. Or just keep digging for a smoking gun and have a boatload of evidence to back it up. Easier said then done for all parts.

remedial

I could not agree more! I've already begun this effort. Using a very basic concept: if sales is "tooting your own horn" then marketing is "having someone else toot it" for you. We need a "grass-roots" awareness campaign. One that will grow on its own so to speak, strait forward, no money involved and tap directly into middle class of America. In other words, repeaat exactly what Trump did to when the election.

RecycledUser

With someone mentioning here Operation Brownstone, another idea could be a hashtag with something having to do with #EndBrownstones or something using 'Operation' in it. Just a thought. I also think it would bother parents, reading the article posted last night, of the girl that survived child trafficking in Portland, OR, talking about how the 'handoff' of kids would sometimes take place at Disneyland, or other crowded places. When people read a woman's quoted article about crap like that, it's got to sink in what's going on. I will find the link to the article and add it here.

gosso920

"Snowball? You mean, like with cum?" - John Podesta

MolochHunter

how bout #HolocaustOfInnocence

dickface8

Someone needs to make a weaponized video. Spend some time on it, collaborate if you have to, but package this shit so it's palatable and succinct for the everyman/skeptic. Easier said than done I know.

28leinad82

We need a high quality documentary that captures most of what we know now. Imagine making a "Inside Job" style documentary about child trafficking. People love to be educated and entertained at the same time.

ConcernedParent

Does she? I didn't know. But yes, definitely her new name should be included.

selpai

How about you stop calling it "pizzagate", for starters?

aaallaboard

That is actually a big part of my suggestin. Look at my suggested hashtags.

It might be best to first discredit the msm that is not covering this. CNN is a prime target right now, here are some examples

http://is2.4chan.org/pol/1484204881240.jpg

http://is.4chan.org/pol/1484205036528.jpg

http://is.4chan.org/pol/1484205473753.png

SaneGoatiSwear

sage. that's right. sage.

the day v/ turned into b/

DangerzoneNeo

Hey, what if we crowd sourced a lawyer, I bet a massive campaign would get people's attention.

tjarco

this thread I just posted could give some new ammunition as well https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1558508

tjarco

https://archive.is/n7ZWh this one with the bandaid is debunked, please remove immediatly

edit source: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1471609

Votescam

"We just call things funny names, that's all." Abromovitz And if Snopes.com calls something fake, I would consider it still in question.

Forgetmenot

Upvoat thank you!

sunshine702

Personally I am waiting for Jan . 20th . I really think an Attorney General Jeff Sessions will bring charges, and not just political smoke kind of charges that get walled off and buried but actual jail time charges that are prosecuted and stick. The past few days have shown me how truely spooky our spooks are. How political and the ends justify the means they have become. That will change with regime change. No more the deep state wagging the dog. No one is too big to jail you pedo freaks.

AreWeSure

Congratulations, you've come up with the same idea as a Russian troll factory.

Pizzainmyass

Shill retard

pavezi

Hmm... We have to understand that we're dealing with an extremely powerful global network of incredibly evil people. This ties in to so many things, the evil is everywhere, in the highest positions of politics, economy, religion, entertainment, and of course the whole mainstream media is covering up for them. Pizzagate is only the tip of the iceberg. Ultimately this is a very serious power struggle, between normal people and highly organised psychopaths and pedophiles. If we're going to win, we have to be equally organised. Ultimately I think there's still more of these sick pedophile freaks than there are people actively fighting them, so we don't even have the numbers yet, let alone the resources and the organisation they have. This is total warfare and will last for a long, long time. These people won't go quietly in to that good night, they will try to take down the whole world with them in their rage, clinging to power.

UglyTruth

Silsby's job was at Alert Sense, not directly for the Amber Alert system.

http://forum.clonehost.net/post/354

redtape20

We should look into alert sense

FoxMcCloud11

Have a look at my previous post: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1518546

"Spread the message. Keep the pressure on and be a valuable contributor to the mission. The only way to win the war is to do it together, strategically.

Imagine how damn good it will feel to be one of the few that helped crack the biggest coverup in history.

Godspeed!"

Votescam

They've been successful at keeping pedophile news out of the press by banning pizzagate. They even wiped out the arrests in Norway with the sledgehammer they've taken to pizzagate. You can't even post anything about Hempstead without having it called pizzagate. And, indeed, many of us have likened Norway and Hampstead to pizzagate!

fifibrindacier

And what about people finding out your strategy and tell Twitter so all fake accounts will be off ? I think it's a good idea of doing this, but it would be better to have this strategy private.

ConcernedParent

Same here. I was (and still remain) a skeptic of some things people claim, but this bread crumb definitely made me take a closer look. PleadingTheYiff's write up was excellent, it is a shame that his write up is not posted somewhere more official that I could share it.

Tanngrisnir

We have probable cause. That is all criminal investigations should need. At some point the police have to do their job.

AreWeSure

What qualifies as probable cause?

Tanngrisnir

Three pedophile symbols used on businesses within one neighborhood. Everything else is gravy.

UglyTruth

Police work for the state, and this is a state crime.

rooting4redpillers

I worry that pg investigators have compiled a shit ton of evidence but it's so much. Without keeping up here, non-redpilled might be skeptical about small pieces, overwhelmed by the archive. I wish we had an information specialist to put this all together - everything - DC, US, global, money, art, politics, sex, drugs, FBI, CIA, celebrities, elites... we've got it all... in some way that's digestible and believable. Someone genius at presenting complex info, like an Edward Tufte. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Tufte

Votescam

There are lots of simple ways into the pizzagate story -- which just opens up insight into human trafficking, especially in regard to children. CIA is involved w/MKULTRA-Monarch for purposes of Mind Control. Problem is that it's an unpleasant subject many want someone else to wade through for them. And, certainly "Spotlight" movie and Vatican's pedophile priests should have woken everyone up. Church is often involved.

JoJoVoat

Votescam

That is fantastic. Copying the front page might be helpful as a handout. Tack one or two up on the grocery store bulletin board. Leave a few on a church pew here and there. And you know, kids -- teenagers -- should be a very interested population because they are the ones threatened by this. Them and their younger siblings. Any women's group could be approached with this easy to use link to WikiPizzagate. Haven't checked the reports and particulars as yet, but will do so soon.

MolochHunter

thats awesome. One major omission from it, though (if its author is reading) is the evolution of Operation Brownstone, the long running CIA program whose purpose is to generate incriminating evidence (fake or real) that can be used to compromise the worlds most powerful politicians, bureocrats and businessmen. Its an important link to understanding how the sexual/gay revolutions of the 60's/70's reduced the 'sting' in the operation and led Brownstone to go darker than its original 'extramarital affair / homosexual' honeytraps to paedophilia, which - a generation on - now has many 2nd generation victim / perps

Fateswebb

It's hard to find good information on this...

Votescam

CIA is very involved, starting with MKULTRA which calls for torture and sexual abuse for purposes of mind control. 2nd paragraph: >MKUltra used numerous methodologies to manipulate people's mental states and alter brain functions, including the surreptitious administration of drugs (especially LSD) and other chemicals, hypnosis,[10] sensory deprivation, isolation, verbal and sexual abuse, as well as other forms of psychological torture.[11][12
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

It moved into Operation Monarch, but Dir. Richard Helms/CIA ordered all the records of that program to be destroyed when he retired from CIA. And, who is to be believe that these vile programs ever ended?

CIA is also behind "The Finders" cult - The Story of the CIA's "Finders" Abduction Operation The CIA Traffics in Drugs, Child Ritual Sexual Abuse, and Global Murder http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ciadrugsabusemurder.shtml

From voat investigation here https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1558279 . . . .

“Oh we do have our stable of weird people working for us. Did I ever tell you about the Pedophile Academy? We actually had one down at Camp Peary, (in Virginia) right near (the CIA’s) Jim Critchfield’s place. I don’t know if you’re aware of it, but we called it ‘The Farm,’ and it was supposed to be a secret training center for young agents. Allen Dulles set up this training center down there for pedophiles. They were in training to seduce, molest, and most especially photograph the young children of targets. Not only, Allen reasoned, would our graduates have a spanking good time but they could get wonderful action photos of the wee ones to blackmail their families with. I understand they broke it up when one of the graduates nailed a (CIA) Deputy Director’s son at a summer camp.” •Robert Crowley, CIA Domestic Contracts Division 1959-1962; Assistant Deputy Director of Operations (ADDO) 1980

Here's a search page as well on Allen Dulles' CIA's "Pedophile Academy" https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AwrBT8fiKndYAoEAnJtXNyoA;_ylc=X1MDMjc2NjY3OQRfcgMyBGZyA3lmcC10BGdwcmlkA0Q1cWNKSEJWVEZtWWt2UWpVQnRuSEEEbl9yc2x0AzAEbl9zdWdnAzAEb3JpZ2luA3NlYXJjaC55YWhvby5jb20EcG9zAzAEcHFzdHIDBHBxc3RybAMwBHFzdHJsAzczBHF1ZXJ5A0FsbGVuJTIwRHVsbGVzJTIwc2V0JTIwdXAlMjBDSUElMjBhcmVhJTIwZm9yJTIwcGVkb3BoaWxlcyUyMHRvJTIwcHJhY3RpY2UEdF9zdG1wAzE0ODQyMDQ5MDk-?p=Allen+Dulles+set+up+CIA+area+for+pedophiles+to+practice&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t&fp=1

And how many thousands of CIA programs we don't even know about?

JoJoVoat

Please let the author know... This page grows and/or changes almost daily. Im sure the contact info is on the page itself.
Puts things into perspective on how big this is..

Z11Mama

I had not previously seen this. Seems like a perfect piece to make paper copies of and give away.

JoJoVoat

exactly.... and/or put on T-shirts....

Dead-Pool

If only there were a bureau of investigation for this sort of thing. We may even need one at the federal level.

dustyr

You're being facetious, and you do know the details of them right?

tjarco

lol

ConcernedParent

When I tell people about PG, do you know which part of the story makes them the most angry and most likely to believe there is something going on? Laura Silsby. When I show them the proof, that she was arrested for trafficking children, and then I show them that she is now working for Amber Alert, they FREAK OUT. Parents trust Amber Alerts and finding out that a convicted child trafficker is now working for them? Not going to fly.

This story also works well because it is easy enough to prove. Lots of the other connections are harder to follow and require lots of reading and context. This story, on the other hand, takes a moment to verify. It's also something every parents cares about: we all worry our children might become lost or stolen for us, and Amber Alert is supposed to be a trusted resource.

Suggestion? Make a hashtag calling for Silsby to be fired. Don't mention pizzagate. Make a clear picture stating who she is and what she does, and share the hell out of it. Make it non-partisan (don't mention Clinton because then they will dismiss it as 'right wing'. They can figure that part out themselves when they verify it), don't include any frogs or cuss words or slurs. I'm not creative enough to know what the hashtag should be, but if done right, it will be like DraftOurDaughters or SpiritCooking, two successful hashtag campaigns.

This hashtag would attract stay at home moms and church goes, two demographics that are actually very good at getting companies and news organizations to act.

ALDO_NOVA

great point- Silsby is known to a lot of people - esp parental types - recent news, big scandal

MrrHandsome

I appreciate this comment actually, I have felt jaded over the last few weeks trying to convert people in twitter. It's tiring and sets you back alot when the hours of chatting lead to them just playing you for a fiddle. I work all day and sometimes i just cant be fucked after work to expplain to people in a calculated coherent manner, but I lish myself because this is hostoric and important to our livelihood. Ive definitely been doing it wrong though, your way seems like the absolute best approach. I'll let you guys know if it works

ConcernedParent

You are welcome. I feel the same way. Sometimes, late at night, I end up crying when I think about how there are countless children suffering right now and we have no one to turn to for help. Every day that goes by is another day a child is hurt, or worse. I just want these poor babies saved NOW but it feels like it will take forever for it to happen, assuming it even does happen :-( We can't give up though, if our collective efforts can help rescue these kids then we have to keep going no matter what.

LawofTruth

The OP is a marvelous idea. We're 10,000 strong here. If we all create secoundary twitter accounts, maybe with pizzagate in the title, and tweet and gab.ai every day the message will get spread. It's really not that hard to tweet or retweet 1 message a day. We could even coordinate and all tweet the same meme.

caliginosity

"but but but... .the children just wanted a better life elsewhere and Laura was kind to have trafficked them away from a bad living, she CARED". That's the response I get. Ugh. Podesta's artwork pieces though, that usually makes people uncomfortable in my experience. Particularly the ones with the children that look spanked and abused.

tehthu

Kidnap is fine as long as you have good intentions.

Arrvee

Didn't the Haitian police say the kids were stolen? If this can be confirmed, provide the info up front to block off the excuse before it comes to mind.

MolochHunter

'she cared' and that's when you hit them with "Then why would she hire a lawyer who also has child trafficking convictions - and so does that lawyers WIFE' ?

ConcernedParent

I guess it depends on how you phrase it. No one is going to approve of someone stealing another person's kid, even if they're doing it because they want to get them a "better life". So far, I haven't had anyone bring up that excuse when I tell them.

The art work is a hit or miss with me. Older people tend to dislike it and see it as a moral outrage, younger people tend to agree that it's gross but then say that art is subjective or it's not a "crime" to have creepy pedo pictures. I try not to bring on the art work until after I give them more concrete information, that way they tend to agree that even if the art isn't a crime, it still doesn't look good given the other information they know.

joeysaperv

Primus_Pilus

This one is pretty good but tie Laura Silsby into it. The name + Amber Alert should get recognition and curiousity

joeysaperv

You are right, that makes it a little better. Try this one:

https://i.sli.mg/2jnlZY.jpg

heretolearn

she's with alert sense, not amber alert

Fateswebb

Wait now, in this thread there is a debate that she doesn't work for amber alert so does she at least work for a company contracted or connected to amber alert? Or can we make sure the information is accurate?

vacvape

meh.. no point convincing bricks. Maybe the right question to be asking is where in the fuck are the bullshit officials who spy on all of us? The very notion of what's going on here is simply fucking absurd, start to finish.

aaallaboard

You could argue the news that Alefantis is now being investigated by the fbi is confirmed suspicion - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXs12hLg-IY

GhostOfSwartz

This is brilliant! I would be willing to start a Twitter for this. As for not merely saying pizzagate is real, how better to convey in dropcards? I thought by linking to the pizzagate voat discussion along with pizzagate is real, it would pique some curiousity. I plan on designing my own cards and leaving everywhere I go. A "ghost" campaign.

shoosh

great idea. I use media, but drop cards are a good idea. I add this one to the list: http://pizzagate.wiki/Main_Page

Interesting when I engine search pizzagate wiki Wikipedia pgate comes up and it was hard for me to find the wiki pgate page.

Aloha808

Has anyone figured out how many kids are missing, how many are boy vs girl, what ages , race, or anything to see a pattern? Are they targeting random kids or do the have certain criteria they are looking for? Where are the professionals who do this for a living for some clues, their must be a pattern from survivor testimony. I'm sick of fucking Comet ping pong.

IsThisGameOfThrones

I would suggest somebody making a t shirt company with phrases that are sure to get the conversation started. Seems like a good idea to me.

JustObserving

I also thought of something like this at first. However, as other users already pointed out, this could potentially backfire. First of all the t-shirts not only give you away to people who might support the cause but also to people "on the other side". Secondly if you sell them in any other way than cash and also ship them to the customers you will need some personal information, e.g. their address or credit card information. Now imagine somebody unwanted getting access to this data.

Monkstar1

The pizzagategear.com website is down. Why?

IsThisGameOfThrones

I decided it was best to take down the website and refund everybody who ever purchased a shirt

tehthu

Don't worry. I would guess 80% of the ones that maligned you for that are paid opposition.

You got closer to the sun than anyone in this investigation.

I predict your name will be remembered when this is all over (for all the right reasons).

Monkstar1

Really? Why? "It was best" for whom/what?

IsThisGameOfThrones

It wasn't serving it's intended purpose which was to spread awareness. It was serving more as a distraction than anything.

Fateswebb

Hey, thanks for trying I get that you were just trying to spread awareness. I didn't see it as your motivation, but I guess I can see why others were concerned.

Monkstar1

Okay.

Votescam

Tshirts are a lot to think about. Wouldn't buttons someone can put on their baseball hat, or tote bag good enough? Or a key chain -- you know those plastic things that usually say "Bermuda" or "Boston"? Plus, it's winter -- no one will see anyone's Tshirt here on E Coast.

Fateswebb

I think I would make a shirt flats a play off of five nights at Freddie's. Maybe something like 5 nights at comet? And show a bloody piece of pizza. Would be funny and you don't have to mention comets full name.. so people will ask questions. Then you can explain the similarities between the weird game and the real pizza place. Lol.

shoosh

ISThisGameOfThrones. hilarious comeback. I'm a tshirt defender of memes from way back..... cups and hats too. :)

Vindicator

Thrones, that was a hilarious comment, given all the shit you've taken over those tshirts. Have an upvoat.

kekistocrat

Were you able to discuss the 'kill room' angle with the FBI? I'm curious if they even consider it. How are you doing?

vacvape

This "smoking gun" imposition is fucking nonsense.

vacvape

What if the peons held a really public mock spirit cooking and just ridiculed the shit out of them. You could hire Mariah Carey.

shoosh

vacvape great idea. Something like that would be great easy activity during the inauguration celebration. Some fun actors and interesting signs, PGate actors could have great exposure with it. A narrator with a karaoke machine could describe the activities, some mimes could join in. It wouldn't be considered a protest because it's '''ART''.

vacvape

I could picture it being insanely hilarious or just too crazy. I mean, blackface or no?

With the right talent and direction though who knows.

But you could also go full scale and create a children's cartoon.. showing them what the (((elite))) are all about. Kind of a PSA so to speak. That'd rock. Surely it'd go viral on yewtube.. surely.

I mean it could be a whole series..

shoosh

Yes, if it's done very tastefully it could have an incredible impact. Even though obviously PG isn't funny, If done in the right way with narration and cynical remarks corresponding to situations that were acted out, or done on a power-point type of thing on the wall of a building could have a big educational impact. Cynical remarks could be very dark of course.

It could discuss all issues, even the bizarre fox show called the Mick.

I have a lot of ideas for sketches or short 1 or 2 minute commercial segments, either live or pre-taped to show in parks,kind of like the Hyde Park Speakers Corner Soap box type of thing. uploaded on a vid.me channel, distributed on media,

The idea is to show what these people are doing and point out the desensitization tactics that are used when they do it, but present it in an artistic format.

A lot of people don't know the finesse and tricky way they've been desensitized to accept something in the name of equal rights or personal freedom. I was one of those people.

Presenting sketches or commercials of this type might combat this invasive and insidious method of programming that's going on in the name of art, freedom of expression and equality.

vacvape

TY. That's it exactly. I personally have no talent or ability in these areas.. 'cynicism' in spades. Vision perhaps. But to lay it down in art, nah. So I appreciate it when I see it. But that is it exactly and I get the impression I'd learn from watching them too since I can't imagine that I catch everything.

Sometimes things are so subtle they simply don't rouse your attention while simultaneously we're presented with an "answer" that keeps us from asking questions in the first place. Or it's just ever present so that it's 'normal' but I always got it. Just seemed like it'd have to get a whole lot worse first. But I'm told these are fun times.

One example in my recent experience, this pink hair gooney nonsense. I kind of liked it at first. Hot pink streak on a hot blond.. looked alright to me and of course oh well now it's a fashion everyone is doing it how long can that last?

The answer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aposematism

The parasitism public repeat ^^ as if it's the final realization. But ti's actually militarily strategic, force in legion. They can recognize friendly / enemy forces, swarm, etc. A talented person so enlightened could convey such a basic lesson clearly in probably a panel or perhaps two.. within the 144 char attention span required of it to be effective.

Otherwise, I recall having seen a cartoon based on child abuse on reddit. Kid lived in terror of the next instance of abuse and it was drawn perfectly to convey that, where she'd be staring at the big door between her and her likely attacker as she tried taking a bath when no one was home. Then a knock..

It was seriously disturbing shit. But it was someone's reality and that was well conveyed. I know you get how useful that can be. So that's why I was kind of thing that sort of thing, truly skillfully applied on this subject matter, could be so effective and useful. Of course it's not the kind of work that pays well.. could be the kind that catches you a bullet or a dog attack or ..

Being effective is a dangerous thing.

shoosh

So true, a person could catch a bug that produces black goo out of the mouth, think: Max Spiers.

That's true about the 144 char attention span required to take into account. I'm a reader and still confused about why people go online to read but refuse to read anything longer than 5 sentences. TL;DR my ass.

Interesting info about the hair streaks. I did not know that. I'm thinking the bright hair is low level amateur warnings. Serious people would pack a glock. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PUE8fYxjq8

vacvape

It all has to do with brand building too you know. Making it seem more normal builds strength into it. An air of strength has two effects. Draws the weak minded towards it, and suppresses weak opposition. People are naturally scared of "everyone else" against them.

Also fake it till you make it. How many adopted the views themselves, which are plainly fucking irrational, versus just thought it's the cool new style they had to have or be the odd duck out? Do you know what the enemy forces would say about that distinction? Who cares nigger, buy our T-shirt.

And the nigger next to you, I fucking promise, don't care.. and probably already wearing the T-shirt. No this is high level psy ops shit. How to oppress a people, displace, replace, or just erase. The beauty of it is that it seems so unassuming because first it's sexy, and you get to cheer for it towards your own bankrupt virtue.. they're all just victims, powerless, strong voices, amplified above all others whom it begins to suffocate under the false pretext of speaking for them, as if on their behalf.

Then it's just some trog wannabe buffet and all kind of a joke because you never see the threat. Or you do but think/hope it won't gain traction.. despite the fact that it's being driven by your puppet government and all means of stream dictate you accept it, you sorry, subservient, model entitled citizen.

See if you can wait this fashion out. Oh but in war, having the jump on them. It's a pivotal thing in invasions. Surprise! It's like how on the man in the high castle that I watched recently when they gassed the guy's family in the first few episodes. They had them in a nice room, fully furnished, comforts of home. Can we watch tv? They put the cartoons on..closed the door, no fuss. No expense. Didn't even need guards or dogs to drag them in.

Of course they'd not be wearing nazi arm bands because that'd be alarming.

It also serves a diversionary and baiting purpose. Some fish have those false appendages or whatever the fuck they're called, wiggle a brightly colored tail out like a worm or something enticing, becomes low hanging fruit, bleeds resources, distracts focus from the real attack vector and so on.

As to the reading and the TL:DR thing? That's also used a means of discrediting I guess. People will skim a thread naturally and look to read the shorter articles to try and get the jist of the thread without having to suck the whole thing in in detail. No? Does that not sound semi intelligent? Then you can decide what's worth more of your time or not but for 99% of people they'll have their opinions formed by that initial short skim/short replies/most emotive/dismissive/etc. Maybe a tiny circle jerk to shore it up.. done.

So if they can't speak to your argument they can simply say TL:DR.

The 144 char bit is also addiction.. rapid reward for low investment. Appeals to lazy and the reward is also like a game.. with the likes as bonus points. Instant affirmation even if all false. So it has appeal on that front for the low level geniuses who were like "Oh cool. I can finally tell the world about my sandwich".

But it's actually a lobbying/voice amplification/suffocation platform in disguise, driving oppressive narratives downwards from above with newly empowered idiots. Even often with circle jerks of 'experts' or others you're conditioned to look up to. Who've now found 'purpose' and 'belonging'... how wars start.

In the same way, like on reddit frequently, stooges will be the first to comment on a submission, perhaps their own. Their comment can be the exact opposite of what's conveyed in the article, but guess what people will read? And so an anti parallel to reality toxic to the public and corporate friendly narrative is forged that easily. Some people notice though and they all need to be ostracized or so forth.

Now let's say you're suddenly less intelligent than a bright reader such as yourself. Say you've long been suscepted to that wonder bread genocide. Your brain is depleted of nutrients.. doctor I'm tired and feel like shit all the time.. probably getting fat now too. He gives you some 'anti psychotics' (which means?) for 'sleeping pills' (which means?) for nighty night and some lobotomizing SSRIs for the day to go with your ADD and ADHD.

You have to come to understand the appeal to flash re-writable attention spans. They truly lack the processing capacity for more. How do you reach your audience? Brilliant isn't it.

I've seen them, at reddit, for the government, and their corporate puppets, forge anti reality narratives the exact opposite of the subject matter in the posted articles all day long and nobody calls them on it. Or at least nobody that can.

You know what else? I've sampled the commoners, having recently spoken to one. They don't consume these streams of no apparent interest to them.. it's just noise. They sum shit up in some way that least affects them and hopefully it stays that way.. must all just seem like odd fashions to them I guess?

So it's a bit like clubbing seals I guess. They're just helpless stranded out on the ice and you can just walk up and crack em between their dough eyes while they smile up at you. In truth I doubt they're half as oblivious.. I bet they know it's coming. But I like analogies.