Alefantis was viewing hopingtohelp's damning stuff on Voat while talking to Ryan (and maybe prior to) and he apparently was wanting Ryan to say that hopingtohelp was a shill. He also asked Ryan to keep his (Ryan's) handle, Alefantis thought he'd be able to use it, to flip Ryan I'm saying.
Yup, get this story out there. It shows JA for what he is. He's not the victim Megyn Kelly and other media outlets have portrayed. He's a psychotic BULLY!!!
I just couldn't understand why he would have the recklessly to give an admission to the allegations that have motivated the investigations. Seems to be a legitimate recorded interaction.
He's just a young guy that lives in Galveston and was investigating the 'Kill Room' and was able to contact Alefantis, nothing more and nothing less. Now he's a nervous wreck w/ the added burden of having to prove it really happened.
Its a personal choice but why bother if you're not willing to fully commit. If people back away from some pressure this will never be given a proper investigation and/or scrutiny.
Well w/ all due respect the guy is scared for his life and he's 'committed' quite a bit already. It's been a bit more than a "little pressure." Again, w/ all respect, I don't get why you don't understand. But I won't argue it. His face is all over the internet now, Alefantis has all his personal info, etc.
I have to agree with this. Not just his life, but his sons. It's easy for a person to say they should fully commit when they or their child hasn't been threatened, or when nobody knows your face or real name. I completely understand Ryan's response to step back. My research has shown that threatening lives is the typical means of control, so it would make sense that one uses what their familiar with.
True. One should still be cautious w/ Alefantis due to his connections. Though I believe he is expendable at this point, and is a lot more nervous than Ryan.
I think this is bullshit. There is no proof whatsoever that he spoke with James Alefantis. There are inconsistencies, for instance, in one screenshot he has the number saved as "James Alefantis" and then the rest later show them without being saved. He didn't record any conversations. Also, what "James" writes in the text messages sounds like something an idiot kid would write. At one point it shows the text message where the DC number says to call him now, and then does a countdown for the bullshitter to call (my guess that was planned so that viewers can be given an excuse for why there was no recording). Nice try. No proof at all here.
1) how do you know he didn't capture the screenshot before saving the number in his phone and then used a different screenshot in the video once he saved the number in his phone? he could have done this for many reasons, but he probably just wanted to show that the DC number that was in communication with him was the one he tagged as James Alefantis...
2) An idiot kid? This part of your argument is not only illconcieved but it is a sweeping generalization. Do you realize how poor people's communication skills are through text message? Remember, James dropped out of university...
3) So just because the "bullshitter" had his phone say call JA now and a countdown occurred that means this was a hoax?
Nice try though. Next time come up with some more concrete evidence and drop the name calling and maybe people will take your input more seriously.
Admittingly, livestream or audio would have been nice. His friend could have recorded it while Ryan had it on speaker phone. But that didn't happen so here we are..
I live in Galveston County, I could confirm it w/ some police friends/detectives if I wanted to bug them. Police asked him about recording it (it's in the link to the phone log).
His actions over this are the only reason I don't believe he is a CIA Brownstone agent. He showed he was incompetent with technology, the opposite of careful when issuing threats, and appeared to have no control over Voat or what gets taken off the web. We no doubt found the weakest link within Pizzagate.
Don't know. His whole story could be true. He could be the shiny ball, distracting us. Both can be true and he could be cover for something even worse.
The CIA is messy all around. It uses Chaos Sorcery extremely well. One need not look beyond the JFK assassination or 9/11 to see how Chaos Sorcery works to their advantage—even if they are sloppy.
Yea he seems too messy to be CIA or working for them and if he was im pretty sure he'd be long gone by now, he would of been replaced as soon as this broke. No doubt he's a sick man with sick friends!
▼ nitro169
So we need to travel to Anchorage Alaska in order to find a decent reporter?
▼ sore_ass_losers
Here's an article about it, for those who prefer text:
https://www.intellihub.com/youtuber-claims-pizzagate-pegasus-kill-room/
▼ sore_ass_losers
Thought this was interesting, don't know what to make of it: "Alefantis: Who is hopingtohelp. Looks like a shill to me."
▼ bopper
Alefantis was viewing hopingtohelp's damning stuff on Voat while talking to Ryan (and maybe prior to) and he apparently was wanting Ryan to say that hopingtohelp was a shill. He also asked Ryan to keep his (Ryan's) handle, Alefantis thought he'd be able to use it, to flip Ryan I'm saying.
▼ sore_ass_losers
Thanks.
▼ FriesischShipping
Without things like Pizzagate I think the CIA stooges think their jobs are pretty boring.
▼ bopper
Probably fun overthrowing regimes though.
▼ quantokitty
Yup, get this story out there. It shows JA for what he is. He's not the victim Megyn Kelly and other media outlets have portrayed. He's a psychotic BULLY!!!
▼ ravensedgesom
I just couldn't understand why he would have the recklessly to give an admission to the allegations that have motivated the investigations. Seems to be a legitimate recorded interaction.
▼ bopper
He's just a young guy that lives in Galveston and was investigating the 'Kill Room' and was able to contact Alefantis, nothing more and nothing less. Now he's a nervous wreck w/ the added burden of having to prove it really happened.
▼ bopper
Or he's a great actor, deceiver, and magician.
▼ ravensedgesom
yeah doesn't matter now because he just stepped out which is definitely suspect
▼ bopper
I would too, not worth it. So one can read it either way.
▼ ravensedgesom
Its a personal choice but why bother if you're not willing to fully commit. If people back away from some pressure this will never be given a proper investigation and/or scrutiny.
▼ bopper
Well w/ all due respect the guy is scared for his life and he's 'committed' quite a bit already. It's been a bit more than a "little pressure." Again, w/ all respect, I don't get why you don't understand. But I won't argue it. His face is all over the internet now, Alefantis has all his personal info, etc.
▼ shoosh
I have to agree with this. Not just his life, but his sons. It's easy for a person to say they should fully commit when they or their child hasn't been threatened, or when nobody knows your face or real name. I completely understand Ryan's response to step back. My research has shown that threatening lives is the typical means of control, so it would make sense that one uses what their familiar with.
▼ ravensedgesom
Fine he has that right.
▼ bopper
True. One should still be cautious w/ Alefantis due to his connections. Though I believe he is expendable at this point, and is a lot more nervous than Ryan.
▼ shoosh
bopper, I think you're right there, explaining why fear got the best of JA. If he had nothing to hide he'd be going to the police himself.
▼ voatsucksreally
I think this is bullshit. There is no proof whatsoever that he spoke with James Alefantis. There are inconsistencies, for instance, in one screenshot he has the number saved as "James Alefantis" and then the rest later show them without being saved. He didn't record any conversations. Also, what "James" writes in the text messages sounds like something an idiot kid would write. At one point it shows the text message where the DC number says to call him now, and then does a countdown for the bullshitter to call (my guess that was planned so that viewers can be given an excuse for why there was no recording). Nice try. No proof at all here.
▼ AreWeSure
This would also be pretty big news if it happened.
▼ PodestaMolestaDBesta
1) how do you know he didn't capture the screenshot before saving the number in his phone and then used a different screenshot in the video once he saved the number in his phone? he could have done this for many reasons, but he probably just wanted to show that the DC number that was in communication with him was the one he tagged as James Alefantis...
2) An idiot kid? This part of your argument is not only illconcieved but it is a sweeping generalization. Do you realize how poor people's communication skills are through text message? Remember, James dropped out of university...
3) So just because the "bullshitter" had his phone say call JA now and a countdown occurred that means this was a hoax?
Nice try though. Next time come up with some more concrete evidence and drop the name calling and maybe people will take your input more seriously.
▼ EngelbertHumperdinck
The headline should at least say "allegedly".
▼ bopper
Yeah, true. Thanks for the song in my head now. Kidding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahLZ7hFlUMg
▼ Marthvedderette
Sound like they are both CIA shit faced spooks.
▼ victuruslibertas
Admittingly, livestream or audio would have been nice. His friend could have recorded it while Ryan had it on speaker phone. But that didn't happen so here we are..
▼ bopper
http://p2c.websterpd.com/viewreport.aspx?id=636202744234414574
http://archive.is/ctCHg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQRM7XckuvA
http://archive.is/rnBVk
I live in Galveston County, I could confirm it w/ some police friends/detectives if I wanted to bug them. Police asked him about recording it (it's in the link to the phone log).
▼ bopper
Alefantis IS an idiot kid.
▼ Criticalthinker615
Another one? This guy sheesh
▼ thestormking
Clearly you are just here for the headlines.
▼ PepperoniBoni
His actions over this are the only reason I don't believe he is a CIA Brownstone agent. He showed he was incompetent with technology, the opposite of careful when issuing threats, and appeared to have no control over Voat or what gets taken off the web. We no doubt found the weakest link within Pizzagate.
▼ MeeestaTraumaLlama
Don't know. His whole story could be true. He could be the shiny ball, distracting us. Both can be true and he could be cover for something even worse.
▼ eyeVoated
The CIA is messy all around. It uses Chaos Sorcery extremely well. One need not look beyond the JFK assassination or 9/11 to see how Chaos Sorcery works to their advantage—even if they are sloppy.
Skeptics can review this documentary for reference: https://youtu.be/U1Qt6a-vaNM
▼ eyeVoated
Also, I bet JA was instructed to make that threat.
Patsy says: "I am not resisting arrest!"
JA won't make it to prison before he gets killed by the CIA, and he knows it.
▼ goodguy1367
Yea he seems too messy to be CIA or working for them and if he was im pretty sure he'd be long gone by now, he would of been replaced as soon as this broke. No doubt he's a sick man with sick friends!
▼ bopper
That's what I was telling Ryan, so he wouldn't worry too much.