So this thread started after the recent archive & sli.mg removals
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1570543
. I started looking for other archives scrubbed in this VOAT. When I found a Youtube video from CPP that appeared to be glitched out. I asked the community to help verify this,
https://voat.co/v/AskPizzagate/1571305
but no one visits
v/askpizzagate
so I went out to find answers myself...
ALL ABOUT THE GLITCHY VID
I found the original cuts/uploader Deplorable 4L, which released the interview with Alefantis in several parts
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7cC-YITudkNnSK6ntCuUqA/videos?view=0&shelf_id=0&sort=dd
without any quality issues, except for a weird rotated video for the actual tour of CPP. Note the interview is full screen, but the tour is rotated, it starts in VVS but it’s not VVS it’s actually a rotated video
https://i.imgsafe.org/00b97b3771.png
The tour got reposted & turned right a day later for relieving neck cramps
So what happened here? At the same day Level Nine Media edited all vids together but right at the transition of Part 3 when the camera man touches the camera it adds the glitch
https://youtu.be/gKTiUaloDDA?t=4m2s
This vid got reposted as well (why do this if original is available?)
Anyway the Level Nine Media edited & glitched out version is approaching 250.000 views, the original only has 4.000. Also note that the Glitched repost is referenced 17 times on VOAT while the original only 1 time
https://i.imgsafe.org/003877894a.png
Interestingly I stumbled upon this glitch while reading this pretty shilly/diverting post & comment
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1530245/7450173
claiming
”the room with the digging from instagram
https://i.imgsafe.org/0aac970f94.jpgJPG
and
https://i.imgsafe.org/0aab857046.jpgJPG
is 100% in CPP. Check video recon here with shots of the back "party room" and stop it from 5:29 to 6:03. You can even see the blue ping pong table folded up in frame 5:50”
Too bad you can’t see shit due to the glitch, which seriously makes me wonder if the glitch is original or a censor attack…
I figured i’d look through the original vid and look for things they could possible have to gain from adding this glitch. Could be that Alefantis got himself into trouble by not wanting to be suspicious and letting the filmcrew in and later realising there might be something compromising. Or it might just be an edit glitch and there is nothing to this. Anyway I’ll talk through some CPP related questions based on VOAT research about the KILLROOM, MURAL, MONITORS & BATHROOM
KILLROOM
The argument that the killroom is in CPP due to the fact of the bricks being the same is easily debunked when looking at the ceiling on the instagram post
https://i.imgsafe.org/0aab857046.jpg
and this picture of CPP
https://i.imgsafe.org/00361d7de7.jpg
That makes it pretty clear the instagram shots of the construction ARE NOT at CPP. Also supported by the question: *”Wait!! where is this” as a comment on the instragram post.
CONCLUSION KILLROOM
. The construction on Jimmycomets Instagram is NOT at CPP. It’s more likely to be at the Pajama Factory
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1478179
ARTWORK MURAL
In the video Alefantis states that the murals had become beaten up in the ping pong room and have been down from the walls for approximately 5 or 6 years.
https://youtu.be/GYy0JPyZZ1E?t=3m10s
So that will be 2010/2012.
The artist of the mural is Arrington de Dionyso
http://archive.is/00ZLX
, not Kim Noble as sometimes speculated. Look at this excellent youtube compilation of his work (and wonder why this is suited for a kids place)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzHZ5UjabFc
He also painted a beheaded Trump on 2016-11-23
http://archive.is/k3UyL
Timeline:
CONCLUSION MURAL
: Alefantis can’t remember dates. Artwork painted by Dionyso has been removed prior to Pizzagate.
MONITORS
I recalled this thread
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1547234
where OP
@FriesischShipping
remembered seeing monitors in CPP.
There are two pictures from CPP on gettyimages, one is showing a monitor.
https://i.imgsafe.org/0035ef2cff.jpg
http://www.gettyimages.nl/detail/foto/comet-ping-pong-stockfotos/148635479
It’s unclear as to when these pictures have been taken/uploaded. The other picture
https://i.imgsafe.org/00361d7de7.jpg
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/photo/comet-ping-pong-high-res-stock-photography/148613225
does not show the artwork. Seeing the HD quality & clothing style in these pics I think it’s likely these pictures were taken after the 2014 renovation.
If you watch the video from Alefantis showing CPP to the youtuber
https://youtu.be/SVg6qWdDg1k?t=2m47s
you can see all signs of monitors have been removed.
CONCLUSION MONITORS
: There has been a monitor at CPP, which has been removed. What it’s use was or if they were more is unknown.
BATHROOM
The bathroom of CPP has actually been described as one of the craziests bathrooms in the capital
http://archive.is/4CJgQ
A instagram post by Bluejay, Comet Ping Pong which shows an alien playing ping pong with grafiiti showing “Shut up & Fuck”
https://i.imgsafe.org/01c2cdade8.png
http://archive.is/NTHBJ
has never been confirmed to actually be a Comet Ping Pong. The tags #wingsclothes could indicate this picture is taken at a clothing store, but this has never been confirmed either..
There is a picture of the bathroom of CPP
http://archive.is/9uvw9/775723d0505e0039dac49b4f1ed4ebb28eba767c.jpg
which is included in the blog post about the renovation in 2014
http://archive.is/9uvw9
Strangely this picture was also featured on CPP’s GoFundMe page 2016-12-09
http://archive.is/OInfG
but this picture has been scrubbed of the GoFundMe page 2017-01-07
http://archive.is/vLJ6O
Why it’s scrubbed? No idea…
In the video from 2016-11-22 Alefantis shows a remodelled the bathroom
https://i.imgsafe.org/00361541d5.png
https://youtu.be/SVg6qWdDg1k?t=48s
. (When or why they remodelled this again? No idea)
The remodelling could be the answer as to why the picture was scrubbed from the GoFundMe page, but the timeline with the youtube being shot in Nov 16 and the GoFundMe page still showing the pic in Dec12 makes it seem like all this attention might has just remembered him to take it down….
CONCLUSION BATHROOM:
The “Shut Up & Fuck” image is NOT confirmed to be at CPP, but also isn’t 100% confirmed not to be at CPP. It’s weird that CPP added and scrubbed the renovated bathroom on the GoFundMe page and it’s unclear as to why they renovated the bathroom again between 2014 & 2016.
▼ hopeforall
NP. Glad I could help in some way.
▼ Newfind
Ya know, initially that's exactly what I thought, but apparently he has refunded all the money he made from selling the shirts. So, that makes it hard for me to think he led everyone on this wild goose chase just to sell some crappy shirts, only to refund the money later. I mean... What would be the point?
▼ Fateswebb
I have wondered this and I am undecided, what I do find interesting is the guy who made the video shows his face for a split second. Also when entering the place I find it interesting that James directs attention to meaningless shit like "the radio" which seems like misdirection to me. I have evaluated it and I lean toward it's a real video but still have doubts.
▼ Fateswebb
It's the only bathroom and centrally located in the restaurant.
▼ hopeforall
Aha. Right. Still I think it's the same bathroom. Look at the color scheme. They just scrubbed the artwork to cover their tracks.
▼ Fateswebb
There is no evidence that PGG is a shill, and I mostly believe him he has tried to prove he is not. Also there is no evidence there is a kill room, or that there isn't more than one. Let's not be short sighted.. why not have 3 kill rooms, why not not kill people? Anything is possible. The idea that we found the "kill room" and it's at Pegasus is a logical fallacy based on assumptions. We know Pegasus is the "dig site" that has all but proven by a tour of the place, what we are speculating on is that the "killroom" photo was taken at the dig site. And also speculation that there is only one kill room.
▼ Fateswebb
So, wait. I'm slow here, can we get just an edited video of only the part that had the video anomaly? I remember the first part and remember it was just as he was about to enter the building so I can't imagine there is anything they wanted to hide, but would be interesting to look.
▼ Newfind
Why do you say Pizzagategear is a shill? Do you have any examples of his shillary?
▼ hopeforall
We know who took the picture of the painting though http://archive.is/SZILy
▼ FuckUredditFuckuSpez
Dude. We already know where the
kill roomconstruction photos are. It's not the pajama factory. It's pegasus.EDIT: CORRECTION: Pegasus is where the construction photos were from... I was talking about those photos, in my original comment. but For some reason I had it in my head that people were calling the construction photos "the kill room"
If " the kill room" in question is in reference to the Walk in freezer, I have no opinion as to where that might be. Building inspecting forms indicated that Bucks does have a walk in freezer... But obviously it could be a different one. My apologies for any confusion.
▼ Fateswebb
Correction, we think we know where the dig site is, which we're very positive it was at Pegasus. However the kill room was a different photo, while in the correct time line, we have no proof it was taken at the same location as the dig room that part is speculation. Also there are multiple photos that had the killroom hashtag and why should we think there is only one? Just saying, all we know is #killroom not much more...
▼ FuckUredditFuckuSpez
Good correction. I was talking about the Digging photos... I thought people were referring to the digging photos as the killroom. But now that you reminded me, the killroom was in reference to the walk in fridge, correct? I Have no opinion as to where the walk in fridge is. I know the building records indicated bucks has one... But yes, When I said we knew were the kill room was, I was actually referring to the Digging photos. I'll edit my comment.
▼ Fateswebb
No, actually it is a very common assumption that the fridge is at the dig site, and heck maybe it is, I just don't feel like we have any proof of that yet. So I'm sure everyone knew what you meant, but we don't want to claim it's there, because if it isn't there then it's easy for James to prove it's not there and then claim it was debunked. But yeah it's probably there! And it so freeking creepy man.
▼ FuckUredditFuckuSpez
No, you're 100% right about there being no proof that the Fridge is there. Like I said, I forgot that #killroom was originally from the fridge pic.
Now that I think about it... Wasn't Pizzagategear the one who called it the Killroom?
And lets be honest, as blatant as he is in showing off, Even he couldn't be retarded enough to hash tag killroom, on a picture of an ACTUAL killroom... Right? Actually, who the fuck knows. There's too many instances in which I"ve thought no way they could be that stupid .... Yet they often are.
That being said, the pictures themselves, Are sketch as fuck. No way to rationalize them by saying "It's just a prank, bro"
▼ Fateswebb
Maybe it's just the walk in at one of the restaurants, but with no shelves or anything is weird.. but it is very crazy to hashtag if killroom like even if it's not that's creepy. Seems like there was another photo with that hashtag hmmmm.....
▼ tjarco
No idea, I believe people tried reverse image searchng but came up blanco. might be good question to ask the self proclaimed JA victim doing AMA's
▼ tjarco
I am also a shill
▼ VieBleu
sigh
▼ B3nder
save all of this !