This woman got stalked and threatened because her boyfriends name is Ben Swann! ( pizzagate )

submitted by CynicalLurker

This woman contacted me saying she got followed and threatened because of her posts on voat. As soon as I mentioned Ben Swann's coverage of pizzagate the conversation got a little spooky.

Read for yourself:

http://imgur.com/a/6FPpz

There is no proof this is real, however I fully trust this woman and her profile looks 100% legit. Has this happened to anyone else?

(BTW: I had to remove the first post about this because I forgot censoring her name in one image.)

nomorepepperoni

Ben said he had been researching PG for the past month. December 10th is farther back than that, even. Timing of all this is off.

Also, I know she claims to be scared, but how do you confuse NIS with something heard far more often in the media, NSA? Unless some good guys in NIS are trying off the books to break up this ring, the acronym mix up sounds kinda sketchy as well.

Overall, think this is likely a LARP. But let us know what else you find out.

remedy4reality

@Millennial_Falcon DELETE THIS THREAD NOW AS PER RULE 1

please tell us how this is DIRECTLY connected in any way to PG

gopluckyourself

Possible Larp probably actual larp.

CynicalLurker

Not on my side. Can't guarantee it for the woman. Look, I know pizzagate is a serious issue and the last thing I would do is waste everyones time for shits and giggles.

gopluckyourself

No doubt. getting a real flair for this so that I can just flair these things tho deleting them isn't the answer.

madmanpg

How did this woman manage to contact you from seeing you comment on the Washington Times? Did you post your phone number or something?

CynicalLurker

The screenshots are from facebook, not from my phone.

remedy4reality

gawd, this sub is doomed with this irrelevant, unsubstantiated bullshit

asdfghjkl123456789

What site is this? Is it in your real name?

If it is, you need to be much more careful. Anything more than "hey, I saw this weird conspiracy theory someplace. What do you guys think?" in your real name is putting you in danger. NSA can read your facebook account.

Ok, now we need to think about this woman. She could be a setup to honeypot you, or meet your in person. She could also be legit.

I'm going to tell you honestly what I would do. Some people are freaked out by people talking candidly about these kinds of things, but if you talk to people who do this for a living, they'd probably agree.

If she wants to meet, go with a couple of friends, all of you should have guns and vests. Posting a countersniper nearby with a rifle isn't a bad idea, either. Have a concealed camera and mike (to protect against honeypot type of stuff). Then see if she's legit.

CynicalLurker

I'm not even from the US, so I don't feel threatened at all. But thanks for your concerns.

CynicalLurker

Can't do it now as I'm not at home but will try to deliver later.

asdfghjkl123456789

No, why the hell would you out this person!

If anyone can read their account, they can read your account, and connect it to this username.

OPSEC people!

CynicalLurker

UPDATE: She was going to see a psychiatrist today to talk about her experiences and this is what he said...

"Oh my gosh you wouldn't believe what the Psychiatrist said to me. It's all fake news. I have had clients go down the rabbit hole looking at Pizzagate. Karen, do you really believe Hillary Clinton could be involved in child sex trafficking? Seriously? There are dark places on the internet that you shouldn't go. Nobody's following you Karen. You're not that important. That's delusional. Then he gave me prescriptions. Also told me has a Hillary bumper sticker on his car and felt followed before."

Wolftrail7272

I remember reading somewhere the psychiatrists, on average, will prescribe drugs 98% of first visits with no attempt at therapy first.

Dressage2

She needs to fire that doctor!! All I can think about is here is a woman that had worked for the House of Representatives and she is not being believed. Imagine what these poor children are going through saying a Panda Bear, a white rabbit, Satan or her teacher raped her and they killed animals and other children. People need to be taken seriously until proven otherwise. Most of us are here because we believe this stuff yet you could tell your own family and they will tell you get a new hobby or medication for your delusions.

pizzaequalspedo

Certainly possible that this was CIA or some private security force for a politician involved in PG, flashing fake credentials of a made up letter agency with the intention intimidation.

It could also be part of why there is such an aggressive censorship campaign. Who's to say this isn't happening to other media types?

asdfghjkl123456789

I doubt it's CIA. They're rare with domestic operations.

private security force for a politician involved in PG

Believe it or not, these actually exist. Parties love to spy on their opponents to get leverage.

Blacksmith21

There is no such agency/entity as "National Intelligence Service" in the US. There is NIS, or Naval Investigative Service, but they wouldn't be doing this.

Any legit LE agency is also not going to harass someone. My guess is they are Clinton thugs with fake badges, from a fake agency trying to harass the tip of the spear.

Stay vigilant.

asdfghjkl123456789

There is NIS, or Naval Investigative Service, but they wouldn't be doing this.

There's no way to say this definitively. They could be doing something that is "off the books." Hell, they could be working on their free time. We have no idea.

Blacksmith21

If it were "off the books" they wouldn't be brandishing badges. Stop being silly.

Konran

Sorry, I really don't believe it. Nobody refers to a boyfriend or girlfriend with their full name. When 'she' says "it was Ben Swann's computer and IP address I was at that day", just raises red flags. We all say either 'it was Ben's computer...' or 'it was my boyfriend's computer..." - really, really unusual to use the surname as well.

Flat_Truth

Kind of like the recording of the guy aboard the plane on 911, he called his mom and introduced himself to her by his full name. lol Nobody does that if they call their mother.

CynicalLurker

I think she did that to emphasise that her boyfriend has the same name.

Konran

Yeah? Maybe...I'm not going to say it's impossible. Just very unlikely (especially twice in the same extract of the chat).

BTW I believe we need to find credible witnesses to push this forward, but we've got to be careful of confirmation bias - we must remember to look at everything with a critical eye.

ArthurEdens

Wonder if agencies are following the stalkers or are a part of the mindgames

eyeVoated

Por que no los dos? /s

Of course both are possible, and likely.

AgainstTheNWO

Don't know yet wat to think of it. If true (no reason it is not) it looks to me that there is a BIG investigation/surveillance ongoing on different PizzaGate suspects. But warning a possible future victim could make the suspect suspicious.

CynicalLurker

I'm not sure either yet. What I want to find out is if this was a single incident due to her boyfriends name or if people in general are getting threatened if they post the wrong things about pizzagate. To me it makes sense that "they" knew Ben Swann was going to make a piece on pizzagate and thought it was him researching on voat, when in reality it was this woman with the IP of her boyfriend. Then they used this IP to find "Ben Swann" and instead found her and her boyfriend. It's just too coincidental.

AgainstTheNWO

I do not think the story about her son and the ip are the reason for the Harassment. The story from her son is interesting and not the first one who is telling same kind of story from prior PizzaGate. Wonder if the kids still have that relative freedom of movement or kept down now.

AgainstTheNWO

It would be very amateurish to harass wrong family. Also because Ben Swann is easily traceable do to his previous work. but possible when time and manpower on their side is running out.

CynicalLurker

Yeah I though it was weird too. But it would also be weird for them to use a woman who coincidentally dates a Ben Swann to spread disinformation to some random person on facebook. I don't see how this being fake would benefit them.

AgainstTheNWO

True, same for the people who tell pizzagate dot com is fake, why would they do that, why put info on one place.

CynicalLurker

No, it's real. I don't know if she tells the truth but this is a real conversation.

EllaMinnow

Can you find the original voat thread where she speaks of Kidz world and her son seeing half naked children at midnight at CPP? I tried but I don't really know how. Kidzworld media website says it's a safe place for kids 9-17 to make websites, and it's owned by James Achilles. Edited to add info

reasonedandinformed

The internal search is very limited. I just searched google on "Kidz world media" plus voat and found this one: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1474718 (deleted poster)

She met strong caution shillery/CTR on this post.

Is this the original post? No reference to an IP address.

EllaMinnow

This seems important. I've looked into it as well, but you're right. Basic searches don't produce much information. What needs to be determined is, are the founders/CEO of kidzworld media related to James alefantis? And is it possible that they've been choosing children from their customer base?

reasonedandinformed

If Trump starts cleaning the FBI and DOJ and really supports, things will be much easier once we can get cooperative law enforcement. I am hopeful but not convinced that this will change since it runs so deep and wide.

CynicalLurker

I can ask her about her voat name so we can find her thread.

JrSlimss

Archived Version: http://archive.is/g11Ba

CynicalLurker

Thanks!

evilhillary

I dunno, "NIS" showed her badges and then just that was it? Seems weird there wouldn't be more to that. and i've never hear of NIS in the US. there is no nis.gov There IS an NIS in other countries like south korea and kenya though. probably all fake or disinfo etc

asdfghjkl123456789

Could be INS. And I've seen some evidence indicating that most of INS is actually "good guys," i.e. patriots.

CynicalLurker

"I may have got the name wrong I was so nervous and a little buzzed. I know they said they weren't with CIA or FBI, I thought they said N, something."

"Ok that makes sense. It wasn't the NSA though right?"

"Actually maybe thats right. I didn't look at the badge much or the lanyard they showed me because I was freaking out."

redditsuckz

Then you are saying the NSA doesnt know who the real Ben Swann is...

asdfghjkl123456789

You might overestimate the ability of a low-level NSA guy. The NSA is not a monolithic agency composed of badass ninjas. There's a lot of guys sitting in a computer cave reading everyone's e-mails.

Stukov

As I was reading this before it got the the letter agency thing it really felt like some NSA guy pretending to be someone else to give us clues, her response about who it is sounds about right. Then again it is also lots of leading questions/answers that any conman could pull off.

CynicalLurker

I don't know how their process works. They maybe just looked at the name of the IP address and had to act quickly before he aired the segment.

CynicalLurker

I asked her about it. Will post her answers here.