upvoated. maybe? swann's team are professional enough to reach out?

If you could, I'd like to see them.

lol upvoated - gallows humor important.

Q: "there was no reason to suspect he was doing anything illicit with children."
A: Hes been caught posting sexually suggestive pictures with children publicly so that his friends can comment additional sexually suggestive comments.

Q:He signs his name 'bear' and the emails suggest that there may have been consensual sex. A: So your addmitting this IS JAMES A. then? What does the signature name of BEAR have to do with anything?

Q:This isn't a smoking gun, in fact, kind of the opposite. It only shows me that James is a delusional asshole but we already knew that. A: EXCEPT for the part where there is an alleged victim PUBLICLY CLAIMING JAMES SEXUALLY ASSAULTED AND DRUGGED HIM!

IMO - This is a CLASSIC example of someone trying to divide, confuse, adulterate, a VERY TRUTHFUL post. Nothing in your long post contributes to my post what so ever. Your only point is trying to point out that we do not know who we can trust, well duh?

there is no actual proof of that - we can speak to it like it is true, but it serves as an effigy until it is proven true. Speaking to an effigy is fine btw, i've done it myself.

put your reading glasses on and read through to the end. Ugh.

tl:dr JA may have posted some really problematic emails that he deleted re: an alleged victicm of sex assault by him which may or may not be Greenwood's son, but came forward in real time on Reddit and Voat only to retreat.

c'mon, it's time to write your book. Turn testimony - whistleblow and you are a victim- and either run with the money or expect a stint in gentleman's prison - and a book deal. Not such a bad second act that last choice. You could be the Hunter S. Thompson of the Later CIA Psychedelia Era. A place in history shaped with you in control, instead of the other inevitable alternative.

WHAT CLASS ACTION SUIT????? PEOPLE KEEP MENTIONING THIS WITH ABSOLUTELY 0 PROOF OR EVIDENCE OF IT!!!!

FFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttping ?

honestly I never thought I'd celebrate the cuck word, but in your case I'll make an exception.

IRC chatrooms created on disposable AWS servers which replicate logs to each other?

James is a multi millionaire, anyone who thinks hes financially hurting or that he is worried about providing the community with good pizza is a complete fool in my opinion.

I added it in my original posting ;)

read every comment - you'l find it.

Reddit, it's been deleted but still visable. It's here on Voat, look around -

Ask Me Anything - A (alleged) victim of James Alefantis did a AMA on reddit. The AMA was scrubbed fairly well, the emails though were and have been being scrubbed like I have NEVER seen before on this sub EVER.

It is still in the deleted submissions area. I don't know if it is searchable (sigh) so I went and found it for you and for anyone else reading this thread. Keep hold of this, it has the alleged victim's story at the top.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1575095

EDIT: For ease, here is the alleged vicitim's statement from the deleted submission: **NSFW r/The_Donald pulled my post on James Alefantis' sexual assault, I pasted it below in the body, (pizzagate)

submitted 1.3 days ago by [deleted]**

I had a great start to university. I had a 4.0 for the first two years and, after interning for Richard Pombo (former R-CA 11th district) and got an evening low wage job immediately thereafter to work with my school schedule, I worked at Comet Ping Pong and the sister restaurant Buck's. James had invited me for several months to go and work as a server there. I knew James had taken a liking to me but I kept him at arms distance. Finally I took the job hoping for better money but he never got me the server job he promised and his business partner offered me a job managing the kitchen. I took the job. After a little while when it was nearing the final exams, I was stressed out, exhausted and let my guard down and went out for some drinks with James a few times after work to get stuff off my chest. James would drug me up and then take advantage of me. When I threatened to go to the police he implied that he would harm me physically and said he would sue me. He had so many friends around DC that I believed him, I really was afraid, and just kept it all bottled up. I ended up getting PTSD, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, from what were effectively rapes, and later I began to realize that I likely had Stockholm Syndrome. I eventually quit the job, but James would send me lewd photos and texts for another 2 or three years at the rate of once about every 2 to 3 months, I think 6 months was the longest in that period. I had to kick him out of the place I worked when he came in every other month or so for about a year. Let this be a lesson: do not trust sociopaths and pathological liars. I would do anything to have the best years of my life back that were destroyed by PTSD. I got rid of all the photos and texts we had as I just wanted to move on with my life and forget, but I didn't delete all the emails for some reason, didn't think of it I guess imgur link. Someone created an account with his exact name to troll me but wouldn't put up a photo of themselves so I blocked them. FYI. I'm sorry I made it seem like only one incident in the other thread, but I didn't want to put too many details out there, I hope you understand. I'm going to try to answer all these as best as I can but if my PTSD gets triggered, please understand that I may not perceive your post as you intended or I may need to come back after I get myself calmed down again. I apologize for any frustration this may cause in advance. Ok AMA!

Edit: I can't post any replies to the comments and I'm beginning to think this was a mistake. I'm sorry but I am going to be leaving now. If you want to mesage me at reddit my username is u/SVMESSEFVIFVTVRVS I will be happy to address any questions you have there.

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And here are raw cut and past links to the original AMA w/ alleged Alefantis comments - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1576050/7681696 https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1576050/7681713

I'm going to explaining for other who may read this later.
these emails were alleged ones from Alefantis to someone who did an AMA (ask me anything) on Reddit yesterday who CLAIMS that Alefantis sexually assaulted and stalked him. These emails were I believe supposed to be part of the proof that this stuff happened. Can't say myself that they prove that, they prove that their was a relationship of some sort anyway (if real).

Hmmmm good question, or if we got the guy back. Maybe we could see the headers... that would help legimate this since they would be hard to fake...

could be a newb. relax doesn't matter anyway, the archive and screenshots are scattered to the wind, in a good, untraceable way.

How could this possibly be the first time in VERY LONG time your seeing the email thing come up again? They were just released YESTERDAY. And once again what the hell is the purpose of this thread if you can not post any proof?

"Methinks the lady doth protest too much."

Interesting emails. I haven't seen them before. I'm not sure why they are the key to it all, though.

So what are you going to do with it?

Every account on this board was a member for 28 minutes at one point.

What is the purpose of trying to discredit someone for posting REAL HARD TO FIND information simply for having a new account. This entire sub is only a few months old?

Doesn't matter, I just made three separate backups in case this fucker is lying. You cannot destroy things on the internet.

Yes I posted them all here:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1576012

If anyone has things under control it's Fartnigger.

https://archive.is/SHacU

Same here

Serious question: Does it matter? And yes, I'm trying to help. I simply want to show people the truth. I researching detective at heart due to my nature and career. I was at work on lunch yesterday when I read those emails. At first I thought there was no proof and dismissed them until later. Then more renctly I after researching the identity of the AMA I realized there was a reasonable chance hes real. The crazy thing is though IF its fake, why in the hell can you find every thing about that AMA BUT those email screen shot?

yup 28 minutes ago you werent a member.

Yes, this could be Alefantis seeking out all the archives so he can claim copyright violations on them.

Nice to see your still active and posting, keep up the good work.

First Post that got deleted;

I got PTSD as a result so please try to respect that I may not always make rational responses immediately or I may just perceive your questions incorrectly the first time. I worked there, but no longer have any indisputable proof of that as I pretty much got rid og everything that reminded me of the event years ago. I do have some cringe worthy emails though I'm not sure it's a good idea to share them. Mr. Alefantis did this after we had been drinking and drugged me, questions on that topic will be answered at my discretion(I'm sorry but sometimes the PTSD makes me behave in ways that won't make sense and I'm afraid I could get triggered). His previous business partner also left after he did something similar to her kid, he was 17 or 18.

https://archive.is/9bHUm

Also is there a reason no one can view them? It seems as though showing people at least a link to the archive or some screen shots would add to the public awareness and proof. To me those were the most damning evidence Ive seen to date.

Is there any way you could supply me with a link directly. I feel like this is HUGE piece that is being over looked majorly.

I've noticed. I cannot find them anywhere?