ZalesMcMuffin

lol carbon copper

1223344556677888

Anyone saying calm down is a Tavistock shill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEDb4k0ZV1w

VieBleu

Please don't consider this linked to pizzagate, it is not. It is one out of control OP reaching for straws. This is not a witchhunt and I think reason has pretty much prevailed, although I am disappointed more people don't reach for the mouse and downvote. Thanks for your input. OP is a loose cannon and he has shot one over your way but it has landed with limited or no impact hopefully.

VieBleu

omg this shiiiite submission was actually worth it after all for the lolol you just gave me- I feel the worst for the poor sweet animals depressed by Trump ha ha. It really has been over the top all the moanin' and you are a breath of fresh air. You must feel like the world has gone mad between pizzagate and people's reaction to Trump. Anyway thanks for the laugh, carry on, and when you have a mind - do speak! we need some common sense and humor around here.

VieBleu

readers - upvote him please, although I hope this submission is buried : )

Nana66

Just like the weird pics of kids posing with adults who look like they are holding onto them at the park that is surrounded by creeps in VA, I can't remember the name but it's got at least one post one here about it) and the pics of kids at CPP, those kids are NOT having a good time at whatever they are doing there..

reasonedandinformed

I look for patterns and have been wondering if OP is a disinfo mole, partly because he tends to sensationalize posts to be like click bait. I took a look at the history, and it was a bit suspect. A CTR tactic is to send people on wild goose chases of no substance (mis-direction), and I would be skeptical in following up on his leads. Since the topic is so important, we do not want to dismiss things without checking the merit, but we need to expose if we think someone may be giving misdirection (either intentionally or because they tend to hyperbolize and have confirmation bias).

Were-All-Geni-Uses

Voats biggest saboteur pretending to be a activist again. How many times have you been exposed??

crazimal

Funny thing is I was like "ho hum another bullshit attention/whore thread with all caps and no meaning" until reading your post falldown, and now I think:

Widespread use of child/immature iconography

Admitted some pedos have been involved

"Skews younger"

No shit it skews younger, whole scene sounds sketchy and degenerate, even if it's just bad music and boys who refuse to become men. So yeah I'm still suspicious...

DontSuicideMePlz

Honestly I don't see anything strange here. Maybe this is Americans not understanding Brit culture but let me begin by saying that the Facebook post 'were all dokmed' is about Donald Trump winning the election. How you couldn't have made that distinction is beyond me. My feed was filled with all the Normie's crying about it, and this club seems the place to be frequented by lefties. So that's that.

In regards to the pizza thing - pizza is (for reasons I have no idea why) heavily associated with the pop punk movement. I have friends who listen to nothing but, and they sport band shirts with pizza, and even have pizza tattoos. Pop punk and pizza go hand in hand, if I were to guess why I'd say because it's a pretty adolescent, young adult aimed genre - and young adults love pizza.

As for the keywords in the art - if we are gonna go after every strangely named club night in the UK we'll be here for a long time - I once attended one called 'cunted'. Yes, seriously.

Not trying to piss on your bonfire but this thread seems to be very speculative, and the little evidence you've provided seems extremely loose. I'd love to know the source of this tip off - I'm intrigued about that. Without wanting to offend thigh, I'm beginning to believe you have no tip-off - you just said that to make this speculation seem more convincing.

I'm a huge believer in Pizzagate, and I've turned many people into it - when I saw this thread I was excited at the prospect of having something else to get my teeth into, but this is silly. Please don't harrass these businesses, it's stuff like this that discredits the whole investigation.

VieBleu

I'd love to know the source of this tip off - I'm intrigued about that.>

Since you really want to know just be aware there is a contingent of Chinese Christians that come here with a guy who does very intricate posts like this, sometimes they are something but often not, then he goes bonkers if anyone questions him and sometimes they can really be rude and temperamental -not the usual forum culture. They are not shills, it seems they are genuinely freaked out over pizzagate, but they have a fundamentalist side to them which usually descends into witchhunt behavior through misreadings of western culture. Every moon and star symbol has to be Satan worship, everything not Christian is occult therefore Satan worship, etc... They've never seen a Dia De Los Muertos skull, so that's all 100% devil worship, they change identities often and upvote themselves in a group.

There are many strange sides to pizzagate! lol

Snailracer

So it's just a venue that sometime gives away pizza to people playing beer pong with Fireball? Or rent the place to some family friendly events? And there happens to be a ping pong club in the same town? Nothing you linked is suspicious.

thezodiac

Very weak links, I didn't see anything of substance here.

VieBleu

Hi - thanks for speaking up - sorry you had to come on board with this shiiiite post but glad to have your voice. Cheers.

VieBleu

You haven't missed a thing, you're instincts are right on.

Jakestr

I agree with you this is just another wild goose chase trying to get people off track I didn't see anything incriminating

VieBleu

It's weird too.

slickleg64

ahh wtf is going on HERE NSFL

Taken from the second nightclub picture, yeah this place is fucked.

VieBleu

So glad you spoke up. It's clear to most people. I don't what's going on here, but this needs to be downvoated. A lot.

TheNamesDMT

Okay, the status about what has this world come to, is obviously about trump. The "climax" comment is sexual because the status says "what is this world COMING to" and the user thought it'd be funny, they're "cumming", to the climax.

The nightclub having a bunch of children, it could be a private party hosted early at like 5pm, even if it was 7pm... a 7pm-9pm party for kids isn't too unusual. but still, private parties do exist...

not defending them in any way, but come on people... look a little closer. we're starting to edge on the schizo side lol.

VieBleu

upvoted.

Vindicator

OP, other than the pics with kids in this place, you have provided nothing potentially linking this to pizzagate. A bunch of hipsters bitching about Trump being the end of the world is not evidence. I am removing the current flair and flairing this "Accuracy in Question" until more substantial reasons to be suspicious are provided, such as an actual archive or screenshot of the pedophilic Facebook commentary you mention.

VieBleu

please remove this eedjut post.

RedditISCompromised

I respect why you did this, however I don't think we're going to be able to find anything substantial in the first three hours of this info going live.

JA's instagram account was a result of being to indiscreet. That is no longer the case.

Anybody around the world connected to the scandal has now had 3 months to destroy all evidence they could have

Remember besta pizzas logo? Scrubbed. Except now we don't get to see before and after pictures. We have to really look for the signs.

Like with the MKULTRA files, in which only a few boxes of classified documents were ever recovered out thousands. It's still all we needed to prove that it did indeed happen.

We may only uncover small truths, but they will ultimately lead to the destruction of this illicit establishment.

justanotherpizza

Mate, I don't know what you are on, but I looked at everything you linked to and I am scratching my head. GO TO THE POLICE if you have a witness that wants to talk.

RedditISCompromised

What?

AreWeSure

The post does not justify the headline whatsoever. Accuracy is definitely in question.

RedditISCompromised

I do agree with you there, it is a lot of information that doesn't directly tie in with the pizzagate movement stemming from Washington. This is coming from the UK, and is not as fully-sourced, nor is it written with any real direction. Still, we shouldn't dismiss anything until it has been fully debunked.

dickface8

Wrong reply or what lol? That made no sense in context to my comment. Anyway, sleep well. Sounds like you need it lol...

Were-All-Geni-Uses

My bad, It was meant for Vie. You too

iamthepizzanow

What the fuck is going on here lmaooo

VieBleu

really, it is better to laugh our azz@z off at this. Otherwise tears.

VeryOffended

Can we please get a real mod in here to clean this shit up? The the growing number of upvoats on this post is concerning. We don't need people coming here for the first time reading this and discrediting this investigation.

VieBleu

WHERE ON THIS LINK IS THERE ANYTHING WORTH TAKING OUR TIME TO INVESTIGATE? http://www.rockingscots.co.uk/other.htm McGOO'S (CLOSED DOWN) - TAG WORD FOUND IN ART

Why is this post spammed with links that mean nothing?
What does "Dogma - Tag Word Found In Outside In The Art" even mean?

People, please downvoat this crap post and stop encouraging this nut.

GrislyAddams

Yeah, if you actually click the links, it's not clear at all.

srayzie

By the description I thought there was this YUGE discovery. I'm not seeing it. Who knows where the pictures with the kids were taken but it didn't show anything incriminating.

VieBleu

ICHIBAN FOR FUCK'S SAKE CALM DOWN - stop your freaking temper tantrums- you are so transparent!

Seriously, do you use some kind of prescription uppers? This is a place for discussion, you have to tolerate being questioned. You are becoming a menace.

1223344556677888

Says you, who works for Tavistock.

ConcernedParent2

edit: Because OP is acting fanatic and has made no strong connections, I'm removing what I found. I believe all that I found was hipster adults at a party and life drawing class. If there is new evidence I'll provide what I found, but for now I don't want to smear someone.

VieBleu

Peace.

AreWeSure

All the Young Nudes is, of couse, a reference to a song Davie Bowie wrote.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKvNtAVZyOc

ConcernedParent2

Good catch. OP seems to be reaching.

Were-All-Geni-Uses

How are some people missing this, soon as pizzagate broke they cleaned up.!!!! But they have left one little thing.. THE GOD DAM FACEBOOK MESSAGE IVE POSTED COUNTLESS TIMES BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE TO LAZY TO ACTUALLY DO SOME PROPER RESEARCH

ConcernedParent2

I have now idea what you are talking about, but I'm removing my information because you sound fake.

VieBleu

It is Carbon COPY dude. lol Carbon copper.

Sorry, Im not buying it, and you sure are trying to sell it. True Secret Pizza drips evil- this just doesn't go there. Bombing a bunch of links of any picture you find and trying to stretch some connection doesn't actually build a case.

People can make little skull puppets without being satanists, it's not even particularly occult. I feel like I'm talking to Ichiban again under the mask of yet another name. You need to form an identity and stick with it.

And that picture of people at the club with kids could be anything. Are you seriously taking that to be a pedophilia party? That's clearly women with their children in the foreground - this is not how pedo parties run. get a grip.

Were-All-Geni-Uses

Funny how a Policeman ( first name on mingin posts like button) quickly deleted his career from facebook and changed it to something threating if its a load of bollocks im chatting. You must be on the wrong team then because everything i do is from the heart

Jem777

Awesome

VieBleu

No, people do take things down sometimes because they don't want to be harrassed. I get your heart. but the teachings of Christ are such that he would frown on how you respond to people that disagree with your points. You are an insulting, angry loose cannon, and I sincerely hope you get help, friend.

surgeson

Calm down. I haven't seen any suspicious pizza jokes either.

Were-All-Geni-Uses

  • Mingin' · 9 November 2016 ·

Brothers & Sisters! I don't know what this world is coming to! USER COMMENT REFERENCE TO PIZZAGATE

  • Kir Neil ~ Tell me how Trump is more mingin than my May or Cameron!!!

Like · Reply · 1 · 9 November 2016 at 17:04

  • Wee Gary ~ Neither do I but I sure as heck know where it's going...! 😰

Like · Reply · 9 November 2016 at 16:06

  • Con Lafferty ~ Just arrange another Mingin night to cheer us up please. CLEAR REFERENCE

Like · Reply · 9 · 9 November 2016 at 16:33

  • Hendrik Benn Wolters ~ POSTS A PICTURE SAYING WHERE DOOMED

Like · Reply · 4 · 9 November 2016 at 09:23

  • Judith Nelson ~ Magnie Robertson

Like · Reply · 1 · 9 November 2016 at 20:50

  • Judith Nelson ~ Possibly a climax ? 😏 CLEAR REFERENCE

Like · Reply · 9 November 2016 at 20:52

  • Marcello Palma ~ Trump ,the beginning of the end 😩 CLEAR REFERENCE

common_sense

Honestly? The rest of your post was interesting but I don't see anything here.

1223344556677888

Common Sense, take your neurolinguistic programming and take a hike back to saturn, ya dig? Put ya nikes on ya bike and peddle off.

Fateswebb

The we're doomed meme that cannot be seen but is referenced has an eerie similarity to when Hillary said that if trump is elected they're all doomed...

common_sense

I just really think it's grasping for straws.

AreWeSure

Are you saying the pictures with the kids are related to Club Mingin? At first I thought you were. Now I realize that you don't know what the pictures with kids are for?

Club Mingin seems to be an event that they have only have twice a year. Club 24 seems to be a place with multiple different music venues.

Online ticket sales for Mingin' are only available until midnight on Friday 7th October. After that, tickets will still be available at The Regent and Café Nom De Plume until 6pm on Saturday, priced £8. There will then be a limited number of tickets available on the door at Studio 24 from 10.30pm, priced £10. I hope this all makes sense but we don't want to be at over-capacity! All my love, Alan Joy xxx

What type of one time event? It seems to be a revival of a club from 20 years ago. EDIT: Or perhaps it's just a club night with music from 1995-2005.

Here's other comments that lead me to this conclusion. He's dusting off his old records and links to a bunch of DJ tracks from 15-20 years ago.

Records dusted down and sorted out, rough idea of some kind of Mingin' playlist taking shape.

Some old mixes: https://soundcloud.com/ …/brian-dempster-vocal-sunrise-surpr… https://soundcloud.com/user7413204/mingin-ahoy-2

December 1997 mix Alan Joy's "Usual Suspects" Mix from December 1997.

Seems they did one back in April too. and a couple in 2015.

Mingin are also very aware of the approaching doom coming there way because of pizzagate. According to its facebook post, posted on 09/11/2016. This just seems to be about the American Election. It's from November 9th.

Were-All-Geni-Uses

Are you seriously missing the Facebook post?????? the post which makes fun of pedophilia multiple times, one user even states lets fuck em again. Not to mention a million other coincidences. Get back in your kennel you dog

Fateswebb

All I see is a screenshot from Facebook and it doesn't say that, and a link lower down to Facebook not seeing it there, and you provide either where this is or a link or screenshot to it? Not seeing it..

RedditISCompromised

You need to source this information.

AreWeSure

Probably. I scrolled through the facebook page and nothing jumped out at me.

So what's the link.

VieBleu

I'm with you - I think this post is ridiculous. The worst kind of fingerpointing OH it's a skull - OCCULT! Oh people with kids at a club venue. - PEDOPHILIA.

I didn't see his smoking gun "post which makes fun of pedophilia multiple times" but I'm a better, and I'd bet $100 it's not what he is presenting it as. Where's the direct link? thie screenshot if it's so important? OP is a loose cannon.

PresudentMcCheese

"Joke about pizza in strange ways" -- What r u talking about?

VeryOffended

Yeah, maybe I'm too late and came after they cleaned up? Otherwise I'm not seeing anything here. I'm not trying to be a dick, but now I am afraid to politely ask for a more clear explanation to all this because OP is pretty rude and defensive.

Fateswebb

I do agree that it's weird that they seem to be having a cocktail party at night in a bar that's geared toward EDM or pop punk or whatever and it opens at 7pm etc, but what's weird is why are there so many children in a bar atmosphere??

I been going to bars for years and never one time seen anything even close to that.

Rarely do you see children but when you do it's one or two not lots.....

VieBleu

we have no idea what time of day it is. No idea what is the context. This is terrible "investigation". You notice all the adults in the picture are women? They look like mothers with girls. So this is supposed to be busting a big lesbian pedo ring in scotland? GIVE ME A BREAK- who would go along with this bs? I am offended by the lack of common sense here - WHO upvoted this? downvoat now please.

Fateswebb

Actually I went in and counted all the men and all the women and I am coming up with an equal number. But assuming these people are "alternative lifestyle" which is an assumption based on absolutely nothing, then we have no idea what they really are. I agree then assuming they are what they look like I do find it weird that it's evenly matched men and women. Seems like it would be more men? Idk? Are pedophiles mostly men? It seems like it is. But honestly I just don't know.

Were-All-Geni-Uses

Check my message above, then you'll understand

Phenomenonanon

This is def. Comet ping pongs M.O.

VieBleu

I'm just not seeing the same evil. At all.

Yates

I agree. This is no where near the magnitude of CPP. And OP refusing to archive and saying "Oh well I guess they cleaned it all up" is sus.

RedditISCompromised

That's because Evil hides in the shadows, which is why we are investigating this - even in the darkest corners of the world.

goodguy1367

Fuck why yet more pictures of fucking adults with a shit load of kids in a damn nightclub!! I'm so sick and tired of all this shit, please god let this be over with already!

AreWeSure

This could be a private party. I worked in a nightclub that was sometimes rented out in the daytime.

Nana66

Those kids aren't having fun....what kind of party makes kids faces look like that and where are the things kids do at parties....There is no reason for those kids to be there.

asdfghjkl123456789

please god let this be over with already!

Looks like we have our work cut out for us.

Celticgirlonamission

Wow.....just fucking wow...where does it all end??

Were-All-Geni-Uses

lmao. You should of seen them licking balls when they thought they were cleaning up. Seriously,, they where all buzzing saluting each other. Shame i know some pretty rough members back up in Scotland.

VieBleu

what are you talking about? you seriously are not making any sense. Sleep it off and get back to us.

Were-All-Geni-Uses

Please don't its quite embarrassing, flat out exhausted is what it means lol and Apologizes if I've offended anyone in the comment section, I didn't mean to come across like a terd. Its just hard to figure out who is it i am actually talking to - Shill Paranoia probably, Must be a newbie eh.

VieBleu

Ok then, just take a breath before attacking everyone. We want to have civil polite conversation here. We are not playing funnybuggers.

dickface8

"lmao. You should of seen them licking balls when they thought they were cleaning up" what do you mean?

Mommyplayer571

It's just confirms what we have seen in US. It should be in all modern Western Cities just like this. Of course D.C. NYC LA and other cities I'm not hip enough to know will be more in your face. Shining light on the evil makes sense to me. Hiding the evil seems wrong.

derram

https://archive.is/O7xVn :

Studio 24 | Facebook

https://archive.is/wMQAS :

Mingin' | Facebook

https://archive.is/JiMJc :

Decade | Edinburgh | Facebook

https://archive.is/CJ5AG :

Summerhall | Facebook

https://archive.is/K5nGe :

Sativa Edinburgh/Sativae Recordings | Facebook

This has been an automated message.

ConcernedParent2

Direct linking to them will alert them that their traffic is coming from here and they will scrub or close down if they are actually guilty. Seriously people, start offering archive links. If I was you, OP, I would delete this thread, get some archive links, then repost your findings.

studio24investigator

I live in Edinburgh. My friends' band is playing at studio 24 in a few weeks and I'll have a backstage pass so I will investigate. What should I look for? Satanic/pedo symbols etc?

BTW there's definitely something fishy going on at that place, my friend has played there a few times, and he says there's a baby crib in the band green room(!)

Womb_Raider

What if they see this comment? Alefantis allegedly lurks here

redditsuckz

Upvotes needed...people need to see this;

James Alefantis "Kill Room" Walk-in Freezer Location Found at Whitmore Farm

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1586134

ConcernedParent2

Those freezers don't look the same, the doors are in different places.

Were-All-Geni-Uses

Thank you for the advice but its a bit to late for that i think. They started the clean up pretty much as soon as the investigation commenced. Perhaps Paranoia played its part in them watching network traffic and have already made certain changes, Policeman removing his career, changing profile pics, deleting pics but i guess they didn't anticipate i was watching there every single move documenting it accordingly, muhahaha

CeepsNo

You're stupid for not archiving shit.

asdfghjkl123456789

Did you save everything on a hard drive? You should always do that when investigating.

Were-All-Geni-Uses

flashed it

ConcernedParent2

You still need to archive this stuff. Seriously, archive.is takes a few seconds.

Were-All-Geni-Uses

Dont worry everything is backed up.

TomFord

Fuck me this is HUGGEEEEEEE

RedditISCompromised

Respect this guy for putting in the time and effort to source everything. This is certainly a good lead.

VieBleu

I don't think it is good at all. Please show me something that resonates with you, specifically.

RedditISCompromised

It shows the scale of the operation. It is global. There is a lot of Masonic ties to Edinburgh.

Freemasonry literally began in Scotland.

This isn't proof for speculative browsing, however if you are as deeply involved in researching pizzagate as the rest of us, then these are some definite red flags. This man has worked hard to compile possible leads, and they do indeed fit the narrative, even if it is written a little scatty. I'm feeling quite scatty myself with all the information I'm having to take in and process. It's just important to stay rational, and not resort to comfirmation-bias. This is what citizen journalism is all about, and I applaud this man.

This term keeps being thrown at us for good reason.

VieBleu

If you think there are leads to follow, then fine. But I know who this is, he's a fundy Christian from China, and they think anything vaguely skull like is a sure sign of demon worship. I don't agree. He is also militantly insulting to anyone who disagrees, which I think goes against how this forum is supposed to operate. If you truely find anything of value in the spray of non-info, let me know. I can say that I think him posting a picture of a bunch of women with children as some kind of pedo party is worthy of the biggest eyeball roll in recent memory..

Yates

This is true. At ana rt studio I used to work at we had some styrofoam headstones thrown in a far corner, leftover from a Halloween party. Ridiculously cheap with joke inscription, exactly what you'd buy at a Halloween store. A Chinese guy came in a freaked out, ran out and decided not to rent there afterwards. They react the same way to the number four because it sounds like "death" in Chinese; no fourth floors in buildings, all change in transactions goes up one if a four is in the number. Very superstitous.

VieBleu

It's a group that seems to actually be freaked out by pizzagate, but are also freaked out by many parts of western culture that aren't Christian, such as any symbol at all of moon and stars. I've gone around with them before. The immediate tip off are submissions that look like a lot of evidence and links but go nowhere, long intricate posts. This was also the guy/group that wanted to "translate" the symbols on the post related to Trolly park- Ichiban. Strangely enough they are not shills, just freaked out Chinese Christians that are very naive about things that are commonly accepted in Western Culture, such as you can own a Nightmare Before Christmas doll without being a Satan worshipper. They would be alright but they are always very angry and insulting when criticized at all. A signature trait.

Yates

Do you know the name of the group/church? But why so many upvotes from a post with zero evidence and not at all as described in the OP? Maybe they're being used/guided to post here knowing how they are.

VieBleu

Yeah, from an earlier go round, I learned they are called "Followers of Jesus". It is a big and growing group of Christians in China. But I feel there is another element involved - The OP uses Japanese terms a lot and is well educated. Seems like not naitve Chinese in Taiwan or Hong Kong part of this "Followers of Jesus" group who it was explained to me don't necessarily follow Western ideas about Christ - he was born of a Virgin which means born during the sign of Virgo for example. On the other hand, they grew from missionaries in China, which gives them fundamentalist ideas about symbols, and everybody who isn't Christian dabbles in the occult in one way or another in their eyes. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10776023/China-on-course-to-become-worlds-most-Christian-nation-within-15-years.html

Were-All-Geni-Uses

THIS LITTLE PIECE OF INFORMATION SUPPORTS EVERTHING

VieBleu

Just. Face. Palm.

Were-All-Geni-Uses

Mingin' · 9 November 2016 ·

Brothers & Sisters! I don't know what this world is coming to! (USER COMMENT REFERENCE TO PIZZAGATE)

Kir Neil ~ Tell me how Trump is more mingin than my May or Cameron!!!

Like · Reply · 1 · 9 November 2016 at 17:04

Wee Gary ~ Neither do I but I sure as heck know where it's going...! 😰

Like · Reply · 9 November 2016 at 16:06

Con Lafferty ~ Just arrange another Mingin night to cheer us up please. (CLEAR REFERENCE)

Like · Reply · 9 · 9 November 2016 at 16:33

Hendrik Benn Wolters ~ POSTS A PICTURE SAYING WHERE DOOMED

Like · Reply · 4 · 9 November 2016 at 09:23

Judith Nelson ~ Magnie Robertson

Like · Reply · 1 · 9 November 2016 at 20:50

Judith Nelson ~ Possibly a climax ? 😏 (CLEAR REFERENCE)

Like · Reply · 9 November 2016 at 20:52

Marcello Palma ~ Trump ,the beginning of the end 😩 (CLEAR REFERENCE)

AreWeSure

That is not a reference to pizzagate. It's a reference to Trump winning the election.

VieBleu

Clear reference?

NO.