I've shown enough evidence w/ other clips already on this thread, we can agree to disagree. But your logic makes no sense here, I think it is a false dichotomy.

Since the alleged Alefantis victim came out, this voat has rapidly declined into mostly a bunch of nonsense.

Really disheartening.

Not your fault, it's the shill mods.

You proclaim that with such certainty. You don't know, so don't be foolish. I think he was making a joke.

I could be wrong.

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/bg_photos/reagan_nixon_1967.jpg

Redwood trees in background. Whatever the crap it is, it does indeed exist.

A non snarky, logical reply. Thank you good sir.

IDK. I checked my own time and it was one month. A bunch of Redditors abandoning ship?

Always leery of misdirection and derailment. All this talk of secret societies smells like bullshit and a dead end.

Oh it's the Masons, no it's the Illuminati, you're wrong it's the Jesuits. Mix everything up and confuse the shit out of people so they lose interest. It's an old and effective ploy.

Is M.P. about keeping enemies closer?

Can you link this tweet?

Oh, he always plays The White Knight. He'll eviscerate someone and if someone asks about that person, he'll say, "So and so is a great guy!!! Just great!!!" This is his MO so I wouldn't read anything into it. I just keep that picture in my mind of his looming over her in the debate and actually saying she should be in jail. She was shocked ... shocked!!!

The tradition of peaceful transition of power was constantly emphasized, and there was still rioting.

So it wasn't a group per se. It was individuals that got together as a group for a common cause. Would that really give Trump that much confidence to do what he did in those debates?

Yes, during the weeks and days leading up to the election, there was a plethora of juicy info released. Some of the really good stuff was released on /pol 4chan.

You have to take a lot of the stuff posted on /pol with a grain of salt, but there was definitely an attempt at communication from an alphabet agency or other ((secret)) agency with /pol.

Most of the really juicy stuff was released around the time of Weinergate. Coincidence? Maybe.

Anyways, I kept some of the stuff, so I will go dig for it and link it.

Also, I will link the Steve Steve Pieczenik stuff: Steve Stand by...

Well, there you go! I have a theory about the New World Order and what it goes back to. I believe JFK definitely got caught up in it, but he was a good guy. He belonged to a group that opposed this NWO. When I found out about it, the bell went off and a light went on and I think I know where this started. Thanks!

Steve is a extremely brilliant man!

Do you have more on this? Links?

This is quite fascinating. How did you hear about them? This gives me hope - I've been afraid with all that Trump has done to immediately counteract the prog. agenda he would be in serious danger of an assassination attempt.

All new to me, but it makes sense.

Thanks so much for the info. That's the sense I got. Thank God someone was willing to take on this thankless job. Trump is no angel, but that's not we're asking of someone. We just don't want the scum of the earth leading things and that's what human traffickers/child abusers are.

I've heard it is the FBI behind him

Agree. Didn't notice the song, but I'll look at the lyrics. You know, I hope this is true because it would explain what Gingrich said. And how about a round of applause for the American voters? I feel they pulled our a$$ out of The Devil's fire.

considering who he is, its very possible that he has the contents of weiners comp

I think you are 1,000 % correct on this. This is what allows me to sleep like a baby (9 MM on night stand helps too) and know that many good things are coming and the USA will regain what we have lost to these NWO, satanic feces. I have noticed how they are all being nice and Trump has his boot on their neck. I fuckin love this shit.

Yes I believe that is what is going on, at least to a large extent.

At least he's trying to appear good so you gotta appreciate that.

To terminate TPP with no resistance makes no sense otherwise.

Unless you wanted to lull people into a false sense of security and then quietly reintroduce it hidden inside some innocently titled bill or admendment, at a time when everyone thinks they don't need to check the details of laws passed, because 'hey, he's kept his word so far.'

Hashpipe, you need to go and do a LOT more research before vomiting on here again.

No it's not always about the money. It's about power and sacrificing children to moloch and pedofilia. The money is a positive by product that is used to control the masses. Money is theoritical and the elites know it. It's the masses that have no idea and allow ourselves to be enslaved by it. The end goal is thousands of child sacrifices and sex rituals and hunting parties for entertainment and who knows what else they do in their miserable and bored lives for entertainment.

Satanism is made up by Christians to demonize non theistic beliefs. Keep seeing anything that conservatives dislike being described as satanic, Its the oldest trick in the book. Read Anton LaVeys satanic bible its a complete joke. Any other form of "satanism" is the doing by seriously deluded people. Youre right about following the money, It's everones religion

Love of money is the root of all EVIL. (Get you some religion!)

A red herring? Yes, some are seriously misguided. This is all about satanism and the 13 illuminati bloodlines.

I respectfully disagree. Following the money leads me back there.

Trump is not part of their group. To quote the Bible: a house divided against it self will fall. He is not part of the NWO house. If he was, he would be acting like obama did. Trump is keeping the public aware of his actions all the press conferences and tweets. He wants the public AWARE. This is in direct contrast to the NWO puppets such as obama, who avoided the public eye and did their dealings in private. Remember hillarys public and private positions speech? The truth is : You shall know them by their fruits not their words. I recognize that Trumps words can be abrasive and taken out of context, but his actions speak louder than words. His respect for the "rule of law" says everything to me!

He's a great guy and will do great stuff for America. I don't know what drug you Bush/Clinton people are on.

Climate change is a scam. That said, I'm interested in your assertion about the EPA. Source?

Debating of objective merits of positions aside, I also agree with you about the degree of opposition to Trump from the left based on his policy positions (and everything else about him). He -- with the backup of the based of America -- is effectively destroying leftism. It has become totally dependent on the federal government to enforce its whims on everyone, and that is being stopped now. This is really the existential crisis point for the left, and they are right to be in a total panic over it. All JMO, of course. :-)

Climate change is total bull. Trump's policy position are 99% correct.

Personally, I don't think Trump is either of those things (mason, Jesuit) - I don't think he has the attention span to make any progress in either of those groups. And he is most definitely NOT religious or spiritual in any way. However, I agree with your assertion that he is NOT a member of "the club" - he could not be trusted with secrets, and also - he's really not that high powered or influential or anything. He's merely a puppet that people use for ratings and shit. I totally hate the guy, but I am also relieved that Hillary didn't get elected. But I am scared of the destruction Trump will cause to our country and our world. Fuck. We're screwed either way really. Can you explain to me why Sessions and Flynn are on the "good" side of fighting this pedophilia problem? I'm new to all this so I don't know about them specifically. Sessions kinda totally creeps me OUT though.

I do not agree with that statement he is a Freemason or especially a Jesuit. To understand the depth of the NWO you must look at the Vatican. This is spiritual. Deception is the key. These people revel in the art of deception. Hiding in plain site. The Vatican (Jesuits) are the very top of this NWO. The epitome of deception. This does not mean all Catholics are bad they are being decieved by the Vatican. Inside the occults inner circle are the deepest of all rituals. Remember the Vatican was involved with the SS& dark black magick (Crowley). Research the Black Sun & swastika symbol...Iconography.

Check out The Outer Dark Youtube. Remember during the election this Pope (Francis) spoke out against Trump. Unheard of in for the Vatican. Pres. Trump sent out tweets against Pope Francis in return. People were shocked. Research who Pope Francis gave private meetigs to just in the last year!

Why is it hard to find documents on Pope Francis past (Joseph B.) from Argentina?

If Trump was a Jesuit he would never have spoken against the Pope.

Where do you get the idea he is a Jesuit or a free Mason for that matter? sounds like you are stirring up rumors and misinformation.....where is your link and sources so we can check. And don't post CNN or the daily beast.

Yes Virginia(s), there really are secret societies, Newt was dead serious.(Directed to doubters.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8y-FPQlNfI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPb-PN9F2Pc

Gordon Kahl.

And, Kuhn... hmm. Any relation to Luke Kuhn of recent anti-Trump and pedo infamy?

They need to be eliminated from any college accepting public funds or having non profit status. It is elitist and anti American.

Wasn't hw bush in the CIA at that time?

Officially they try to make out like that speech was about Communism. Er, nope, it quite clearly was not about communism, otherwise wouldn't he have used the word communism? To think, that the bloodiest communist or fascist regimes had/have nothing on the sick, corrosive brutality of the so-called democratic governments of the so-called 'free world.' At least under Stalin or whoever, the suffering was known and seen and felt by others alongside you - not this private, secret hell that has children screaming in essentially a sound proof room, while all the world busies themselves around them, smiling, or calling them crazy and mocking them and telling them to shut up, should their muffled screams ever get the chance to penetrate into the unreal world for a moment. And all that in their short lives before they are brutally slain, utterly unknown, utterly unloved and unheard, nothing but a stain on a butcher's block, the entire purpose of their young existence twisted into being a mere plaything for the most vile, despicable, abhorrent, depraved, degenerate, base abominations that ever took a breath in this universe and all those before and since.

Thinking about it too much hurts, and it makes me furious at the zombies who refuse to believe and would allow such suffering to slide back into the depths without so much as an acknowledgement. We all are trapped into unwittingly supporting this evil every day as we work to earn to buy things, using their twisted, rigged system of money against ourselves and against all that is good, with seemingly no way out, being so tied in to the web of zombies but unable to warn them of the giant spider lurking at the centre of their world. Ugh. I've thoroughly depressed myself.

Just watched that the other day. 'the speech that got him killed.'

we've been online so long and so often that we forget how awesome it is

It's not just blackmail, this is what they do for fun and to serve their god. It's not like they are reluncyantly participating and are being blackmailed. They share this belief and lifestyle and practice amongst each other. Blackmail is an extra benefit. Not the end goal.

I've heard that mentioned before, what is tbtb?

Unfortunately

And there's more of course. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwJDs1cg9Eo

Step 1) join a secretive group (police, freemason, etc)

Step 2) be ruthless

Yah sure bro.

Baptism by fire buddy. The Phoenix rose from the ashes, blah, blah blah. I be always wondered how people get into secret societies. I guess you have to be chosen. My grandfather was 33rd, and a Shriner, and a state level politician. No one has ever even hinted I join freemasonry. I guess I should be thankful I'm not of the ilk. I always knew my grandfather didn't get to where he was by his brain. It was most likely due to a deplorable habit he had. My guess would be necrophilia, considering he was a mortician in the military.