mixelplfft

dorito anyone?

ZalesMcMuffin

It may be tiresome to you, but it's true. There is a qualitative distinction between being attracted to a postpubescent and a prepubescent. That doesn't mean one is good and one is bad. It means they are different. Hijacking someone's car vs. lying to them and persuading them to give it to you under false pretenses are different crimes. Both are wrong, but they have different names and are treated differently because yes, they do represent different types of criminal activity.

I could just as easily say that it's tiring explaining this distinction... in the end, it is important to recognize both (a) they are both crimes and (b) they are different crimes (though in the same overall category of sex crimes).

md3inaustin

walnut sauce-gate

..doesn't stick in the brain the same

IPleadThe2nd

Yeah mine too, but I consider them brainwashed useful idiots.

AreWeSure

From the LA Times

Detectives conducted “john” stings to target men and women involved in prostitution and posed online as juveniles to go after pedophiles.

In all, 28 children and 27 adult victims were rescued, the Sheriff’s Department said in a statement. About 140 men were arrested for solicitation and 36 others on suspicion of pimping. In total, 474 people were arrested, authorities said.

I just saw somewhere that they said 474 pedophiles were arrested. That's not true. Not every john arrest would have involved an underage prostitute.

Orange_Circle

Nope, I disagree. There is a huge difference between a perv sexting a 15 year old and a man who is sexually excited by little children.

doubletake

happy day. flush the filth down the toilet. let them have "fun" in prison.

alanna

There was a bust in New Orleans also, but don't think they mentioned children.....yet. http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/02/human_trafficking_raids_new_or.html

Vox_Pacem

there have been a few posts on 4chan this week about Pizzagate going down in the next couple weeks... This could get real

GeorgeT

Looks like purge has began. The question is, how deep will they go?

Selnee

I think you are right. It really feels the tide is beginning to turn!. On Joe Rogan's podcast with Alex Jones they were pretty much saying same thing!

pessimisticsteel

They are going to do it, just not sure if they will make it very public.

mrohm

I have been reading Nick Bryant's book on The Franklin Cover up. The FBI was actively involved in covering it up. Of course, that was under HW Bush, who was allegedly involved (and definitely friends with Larry King). But I still worry that this will be swept under the rug.

FriesischShipping

Exactly, look at this pragmatically. Bush had his and his entire family's rep on the line. He had to cover it up. What does Trump have to lose if he covers up for the pedos? What does he have to gain?

earthbalance1

Question is, who would Abedin and Weiner turn evidence on?

Perhaps their former boss?!

FriesischShipping

Yeah, except Hillary is a puppet, go after the black ops teams that do the child sex blackmail and the banksters that profit from it.

GeorgeT

Behind the scenes there is a war raging between white hat agents and the dark forces. Dark forces have lost their biggest weapon - secrecy! With the Podesta emails cat is out of the bag. They have already lost, it is the begining of the end for them. White hat agents are emboldened by the fact that citizen journalists across the world are watching. It means 'suicides' are no longer viable an option. They are on the radar. Think of all the conceiled cameras by all the good guys, monitoring everything 24/7. And the top agents know this, they have no choice. The best they can hope is to do another Jimmy Saville, make Alifantus and Podestas an example to appease the citizen journalists and lay low for s while.

FriesischShipping

I'm sure they realize that we are going naw through that bone for a couple days and then move into the next target, no? Their only defense is a total coverup (hence the unprecidented censorship), once one goes down the whole thing crashes because suddenly you vidicated everyone who was labeled anything from all the decades of lies and deception.

ZalesMcMuffin

Yeah, I am skeptical that they could do a limited hang-out after putting everything on the line declaring PG "fake news" so many times.

But, then, desperate psychos are not my sort of people, and I don't think like they do...

FriesischShipping

Oh, forgot to say, Anthony Weiner = limited hangout, the buck stops here.

FriesischShipping

That's the truth, I've had to learn how psycho/sociopaths operate just to understand what I'm looking at, It's very otherworldly (could be a reason why people try to excuse elites behavior as "alien")

banusaur

I think they're scapegoating Weiner. Alex Jones was obsessed with focusing on Weiner & CP on Joe Rogan. Jones is totally the CIA's way of getting ahead of a scandal by associating craziness with the facts. Referring to the alleged photos exchanged as CP is also unusual to do when you're talking about one relationship and teen victim, even if it is a technically correct term. Seems like an attempt to amplify the blame. Weiner may be telling the truth when he was saying it was a hoax. He's not even considered a player with all the Dyncorp stuff. He could be an outsider who knows too much. Just food for thought. I could be wrong. But these people are fucked and it wouldn't surprise me.

whitehand

The 15 yr old stuff is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Weiner's laptop. This guy was heavily involved for sure. He has a long history of sexual impropriety if you look for it. This didn't just randomly appear. Also if you research his wife Huma, you will see there are direct ties with her and the Haitian human trafficking.

banusaur

There are 3 other sexting scandals starting in 2010 - but they all involved adult women. Huma is a strange bedfellow for sure. All I can say is that marriage seems to be tied to politics when you're a Federal rep. I'm not even sure Barack and Michelle were legitimate these days.

Weiner may have been one of the only people to get that close who had a conscience so they're dumping everything on him. I'm worried he's bait. Remain skeptical.

Pokes

This! Would upvote if could.

waxdino

Don't forget the house oversight committee requesting the Clinton email Datto info from the FBI.
But, to be honest, I think we are just much more likely to notice this stuff now. That California bust was part of an annual operation. Just like the FBI's Operation Cross Country that was carried out last year, it's annual, that was the 10th one, I had never known a damn thing about it til pizzagate opened my eyes to human trafficking even being a problem in the US.
I like your optimism, but I think the real story here is that people are finally aware and paying attention to this news. Which will eventually lead to the real purge. It's got to.

FriesischShipping

im curious, why do they only do this once a year? Sure feels like a PR tag...

Gone20

Woah woah woah. Dennis Haster was a republican... Which is true?

  1. Republicans are no different than democrats and can be pedos too?
  2. Haster was innocent it's all a libtard conspiracy?

You can't have it both ways shitlords.

ZalesMcMuffin

It's 1. Everyone here already knows that.

Z11Mama

To put the California arrests into perspective, this was a number of arrests made throughout the investigation. Not all at once. And it was planned to have a press conference announcing the results at the end of human traffikking month. In other words, the news conference was planned to make the most of a series of accomplishments over time.

Htaed

It's nice to dream.

remedy4reality

Or... a wave of sensational stories are attempting to create a witch hunt atmosphere that gives cover to those highest up in the pyramid.

VieBleu

Don't forget CEO of Voat steps down. Not saying it is connected but - I notice these boads have changed A LOT. Did a bunch of people get fired? All kinds of posts that would have been taken down are now left alone.

Anyone else notice it has calmed down, as well as the retreat of that crazee contingent always posting NEED HELP!!! LOOK THE SUN IS A SATAN SYMBOL? They seem to be less active as well.

Thanks for this timeline btw. There were some other more isolated pedo busts like the Classics teacher.

slickleg64

More formalities and better mods really, also the sub /v/pizzagatewhatever is used for crazy unrelated things. I think CTR has given up, shills have gotten bored and left and anyone taking this serious is still on this board.

Funny you mention the classics teacher, currently finding links to him and a alleged ring within New Zealand state care during the 70's, something the former PM refused to allow investigation a day before his resignation. This teacher btw was working in NZ the same time in the same area as the supposed victims, its still very difficult to find info from that era but more info is coming out as other professional investigators are looking into only the teacher.

Oh and the mainstream soros media there deleted all the articles they released last week about it, they mentioned how he started his career in New Zealand, also how former students gossiped that he was a creep, and I forgot to archive ffs.

Gigabump

Check out the movie, "Hunt for the Wilderpeople" - it will trip you out. It's a complete snuffing out of the elites and their relationship with New Zealand's Child Protective Services and how they abuse the native foster kids of NZ. It's a funny movie - but it completely exposes what they've been doing for years.

VieBleu

Interesting.

Empire_of_the_mind

You're a fucking idiot. Voat is not a company. Atko was busy as fuck with his real job.

VieBleu

I have no problem with being an idiot in this matter. You on the other hand are quite angry for no apparent? reason.

katphish

i did notice in the press release that the 400 arrested was part of an annual exercise, maybe keep an eye out for previous years events, and maybe that it would have gone down with hilldog in the house as well

alanna

Hmmm...maybe this a timed annual event for Human Trafficking Awareness Month. Make us think they actually are doing something

FriesischShipping

Look it up, the numbers were always smaller.

Pisstubes0351

I want to take a look at the complaint. Does anybody here have a PACER account, or know an attorney who does?

https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/20440254/v_Epstein_et_al

Blacksmith21

Great use of OSINT. What conclusion would you draw from this?

whitehand

I noticed the same pattern as well. The question is will we see the big names who haven't been charged before go down? I'm talking Hillary and Podesta. I think at most Podesta will be scapegoated by the Clintons and get some weak 3 year sentence. The same goes for Weiner.

SaneGoatiSwear

when you see whole leaderships of nations replaced because of this, the dominos are falling.

otherwise at best, scape goats across the land will be sacrificed for national security and international security and intranational security.

mark my fucking words.

you will get many scapegoats. clinton, weiner, and more.

Odaat

I'll be happy if Trump can get the U.S. out of the evil "we've" been doing across the world. Thank you, George Webb. (Though it's kinda hard to know that stuff and be powerless at the same time.) I'm further hoping he will have an honest conversation with the American people and lay it out and then let the rule of law reign. Anything short of that I'll just be glad I'm on the downhill side of this thing called life.

AreWeSure

I mean this is the only one that actually is connected to Trump's innauguration. *January 30, 2017- Google Fires Podesta Group..

and you actually follow ZH to the real news article, you see things like this

The Podesta Group -- whose chairman, Tony Podesta, is a major Democratic fundraiser and the brother of Clinton’s former campaign manager -- is no longer lobbying on behalf of Google, public disclosures show. The change coincided with Google’s bid to hire someone for “conservative outreach,” according to a December job advertisement.

Veteran lobbyists say it’s not unusual to see such shifts after an election. U.S. companies are responding to a power shift in Washington that put Republicans in charge

**Citigroup Inc. terminated a relationship with Subject Matter, a mostly Democrat-affiliated lobbying firm, **which lost six clients by the end of 2016, including the National Football League, totaling more than $250,000 in business. Steve Elmendorf, Subject Matter’s co-founder, said s. companies always make changes at the end of the year based on their legislative priorities and the composition of the congres“It’s not unusual,” he said.

“**The minute the election is over, you just have to start switching,” **said Paul Miller, the president of the National Institute for Lobbying and Ethics, a professional association for lobbyists. “If you’re doing your job right, that’s what you do.”

Meanwhile, the change in administration is a boon to some firms. Puerto Rico Federal Affairs Administration, a group that lobbied for debt relief for the island, re-upped its contract with Prime Policy Group, where Charlie Black is chairman, the disclosures show. Black was previously a partner of Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign manager, and Roger Stone, a decades-long Trump adviser . **Puerto Rico’s governor Ricardo Rosselló also hired former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, **Bloomberg News reported.

AreWeSure

I don't think you are doing critical thinking. How does this relate to Trump?

How does Hastert play into this storyline?

Did you read the California story?

The crackdown was carried out to coincide with the end of Human Trafficking Awareness Month in January, which former President Barack Obama proclaimed in 2014.

Operations like this are not put together in two weeks.

The California operation is not new. They did it last year too. However, it was only in LA county last year and it resulted in 200 arrests.

Operation Reclaim and Rebuild – 198 arrests (Jan. 2016) http://ktla.com/2016/01/28/198-arrested-12-minors-rescued-during-county-wide-sex-trafficking-operation-lapd/

The LASD Regional Human Trafficking Task Force was started in 2015. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4jnY1TbkYU

Gorillion

Any possibility the recent McCann stuff has any connection?

Madeleine McCann’s parents lose court appeal to silence cop who claims they covered up daughter’s death

Obviously court dates are set months ahead of time. But it's a similar situation where "certain protections" may have suddenly been removed from key players.

Birdzeyeview

well past time those Mccanns went DOWN...and they should pay back all the money they stole in their long running SCAM

AreWeSure

I seriously doubt it. That book has been available online in English since 2009. What they lost was he can now publish the book in the UK. But some big secret is not going to be revealed when that happened. He has already made his views known.

Amoffthepizza

Yeah but I'm now worried that they will just keep sending antifa/soros army out to incite riots so that the MSM have an excuse not to cover it.

GeorgeT

I believe women's march was just that, distraction.

IPleadThe2nd

You would think women of all people would be the most outraged by pedo rings (no offense men, I love you), but you would also think that women of all people would be against killing their own baby. I guess when women have been brainwashed to not connect with their own offspring you really can't expect them to give a shit about other children.

Gorillion

Meh, it's fine. People will just seek it out once word of mouth starts spreading it around. It will just further serve to red pill them on the MSM.

Amoffthepizza

Hope so. These idiots rioting like they have been will hopefully redpill people faster.

Wolftrail7272

I would take a second look at the LA badge and it's boy lover symbol. Most likely that investigation and bust were controlled opposition. They're trying to keep a serious federal investigation from happening. And yes, I know the FBI was involved, but not at the level they actually should be.

carmencita

I was a little swayed at first but pulled back. With so much press about all of the captures of pedos and victims it is important to keep a cooll head. I am waiting for the red pill of the century. Am still trying to do more work on St. Louis and Archdiocese.

Wolftrail7272

Glad to see you're staying with the fight. Keep on it. I believe the Red Pill is on its way. I'm half hoping they do a fake bust in St. Louis because of the info that would drop in response to that. Hint. They called me a wolf before, and they were right about that, but for the wrong reasons. I can track, and I know the woods here well. They don't know what I've found or what I've dug up. My wording is important here.

carmencita

Trying to catch your drift. I am at a standstill because for some reason I am stuck on trying to find out who deeded the land to the Archdiocese. I have not heard of any press ops in Miami, or Chicago (which I think is a real hub as well with O'Hare and the Chicago Archdiocese. I think they are all connected in a way. I am convinced that bodies or parts of bodies have been taken to West Lake Landfill. I almost laughed when the New Orleans press included the Pope in their message. It is so very obvious that they are involved. John Pall II and Pope Benedict XVI. That is why he is in a fortress locked up and guarded by the Mafia.

Gorillion

Always pay attention to who's busted and who isn't. 500 is a good haul, but they may be small fry. I mean, they should all fucking die, but we still need the big fish up on the bench, head removed and filleted.

Yeah, you can see here. The rhetoric is really focused on "the johns":

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trafficking-arrests-idUSKBN15G5J6

AreWeSure

How do you think you get to 500 if you don't include the johns?

AliensInParis

I want this to happen and justice to prevail more than anything right now. Pizzagate changes history.

And I still can't believe it's been branded "pizzagate." Incredible.

doubletake

imo, pizzagate was the perfect coincidental choice it turned out to be. It is when the world discovered these fux were using a code. as soon as someone enters this research, they find that something as innocent as pizza means something so vile, and then all these associations begin to pop up in popular culture. It is a great Door name to enter this world. The main course will be Weinergate. When the world pedo crimes are included, then it should become Pedogate. I just remember the jolt i experienced when the reason it was named pizzagate was explained. The world changed on a dime. It is never forgotten.

earthbalance1

PizzaGate is like "Jeet Kune Do": just a name.

"I have not invented a "new style," composite, modified or otherwise that is set within distinct form as apart from "this" method or "that" method. On the contrary, I hope to free my followers from clinging to styles, patterns, or molds. Remember that Jeet Kune Do is merely a name used, a mirror in which to see "ourselves". . . Jeet Kune Do is not an organized institution that one can be a member of. Either you understand or you don't, and that is that. "

The evidence was there all along but the memory hole was deep.

FriesischShipping

Like gran canyon deep...SAD

mixelplfft

if they didn't want to go down under something called pizzagate, they should have chosen a different food item to begin with...

GeorgeT

Pizza is shaped like a triangle - Illuminaty symbol?

gAvenger

Which is so sad because I love Italian tomato sauce cheese pie and the word pizza is going to be ruined.

GeorgeT

It ruined it for me. The other day me and my girlfriend went out for a pizza, and while eating I suddenly felt ill. I went out for a fresh air. Finished the pizza after all.

Atatarkus

Yup it adds insult to injury I loved pizza till this began now it's brilliance has been sullied by perverts. Why couldn't their sick codeword be sardines or tofu or something else shitty like that. Bastards!!!

alanna

Like it even less when Sophia Smallstorm describes how a slice of pizza rolled into a cone looks like looking at the crust end with cheese and sauce visual. Hence the code word. I don't eat it in this manner but know it is by others. I reeled on that one!

shoosh

And I still can't believe it's been branded "pizzagate." Incredible.

In time I'm getting used to it, but I wish I were there at the moment of that stupid name choice. Honest to god can we all just stop with the ''gates'' already?

FriesischShipping

I like that it's an innocence word that draws people in to a world of organ harvest/spirit cooking child torture sacrifice rape and slavery. #howpedosexislikepizzagate

privatepizza

I'm with you wishing.

SaveTheChildren

We can always remember how it was unfortunately on trend to call every little thing whatever-gate, and take it as a lesson to stop doing it.

Tanngrisnir

I feel bad for Nixon having to share the same -gate suffix with Hillary. His corruption was pretty standard political stuff compared to the evil committed by Hillary.

TheHolyGrail

The Kissinger remains the same.

GeorgeT

Are we even comparing? It's like comparing a serial killer with a juvenile delinquent who grafittis subway hall. No comparison.

Flat_Truth

Yep, there's an old recording on Nixon talking about his visit to Bohemian Grove....he was disgusted by the people there...he said something about he didn't even like to shake hands with them they were so disgusting.

Mylon

That's kinda the point. By saying Benghazi-gate it makes it clear, if they can take down Nixon over that shit then these people can get taken down for worse stuff. The -gate suffix is a nice way to remind people that the politicial elite should not be held to a different standard of justice.

Tanngrisnir

That is a nice way of putting it.

quantokitty

Agree. In hindsight, I believe he got wind of what was coming.

Vic138

Talking about Nixon, he was set up because TPTB (Rockefeller, etc) probably couldn't blackmail him so had to set him up to get impeached. A lesson they learned well, now almost everyone is blackmailable, many thanks to all the pedophile rings:

http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/12/31/us-middle-class-still-suffering-from-rockefeller-kissinger-industrial-transfer-scheme-to-china/

Gone20

No it wasn't. This has to be the most uneducated group of people short of the Donald. I'm official done here. It's sad that place as mainstream as voat, is over run with uneducated, tunnel visioned, partisaned, sock puppets. If my statement makes you mad then yes I'm talking about you. You need to realize that watching one news source (clearly fox for the majority here) means you're part of the problem. You, along with the ultra left, are what's wrong with this country and why shit like this exists. While you're busy having temper tantrums about each other the real people in power laugh, but 10 more roles Royce, fuck a few slaves, and never give you another thought. STOP BEING TRIBAL MONKEYS. HUMAN TRAFFICING ISNT ABOUT TEAMS. ITS NOT ABOUT YOU BEING RIGHT ABD SOMEONE ELSE BEING WRONG.

You tardbots love caps so maybe that will sink in for one or two of you. Deleting my account now. I'll stick to places that focus on facts and not politics.

Godwillwin

What are you talking about?! We've brought up the Bushes and Cheney. We've been looking into Scalia and McCain. It's the left that doesn't believe it's true.

Many here are Trump supporters, but that doesn't mean we have tunnel vision and are uneducated! You are very out of line! Get off your high horse.

We're fighting for the TRUTH and the CHILDREN and are sick of the left silencing us! That's why we don't watch the left channels. They're pedo protectors. They are trying to discredit our investigation.

Get over yourself and your politics! There is NOTHING more important to fight for right now. NOTHING. The fight for these children is even more important than the fight against ISIS. Wake up! I'll say it again: GET OVER YOURSELF!

ThePuppetShow

Voat was sold when pizzagate moved here. It doesn't take a genius to figure out who it was sold to.

Tanngrisnir

Um, I never thought it was about teams. Down below I even said that it was possible that Nixon was a pedophile as well. I just think it is dumb that we act like a case where someone spied on their political enemies is the ultimate example of political corruption when so much worse stuff has happened. But anyway, bye.

Balour

takes a shot

THE_LIES_OH_THE_LIES

Don't delete your account. 50% of us here are as woke as you. Read my post for fun: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1491256

The true awakening is coming brother

Tanngrisnir

I would save your concern. I was terrified for a minute that I had somehow scared off some wiz investigator. It turns out he is just some shill who goes around saying "but Republicans have pedophiles too!" as if anyone suggested they didn't. He hasn't made any discoveries or found any useful information.

THE_LIES_OH_THE_LIES

Good call.

shoosh

Have you researched Fiona Barnett's survivor story? She was a smart little kid and an even smarter adult, who drew pictures of Nixon as one of the politicians who performed sex on her. Hillary and Richard may not be very different when the truth is outed. .... problem is outing the truth with those cover-uppers.

Tanngrisnir

I hadn't heard about Fiona but it isn't too shocking, sadly. I figured the pedophilia and rapes in politics had been going on for some time but that it had reached a new peak fairly recently and wasn't quite as bad in the past. Probably not the case though. It is a shame.

shoosh

They've taken Joseph Goebbels propaganda machine to new heights - or lows; keeping the public either ignorant, or unsure, or educated and numb, or tolerant and apathetic.

Mommyplayer571

Seems any Pedo in jail could spill the beans. They can't kill all of them.

isthisreality

i'm hoping/betting on Weiner being the one. He kind of reminds me of the one guy from House of Cards... Peter Russo

TRUTHWARRIOR

Exactly!!!! I believe house of cards was based loosely on the clintons

isthisreality

Ha! I just started watching that show about a week and a half ago. I've caught myself trying to compare all the characters with all the "real life" characters, lol.

TRUTHWARRIOR

Claire.....

Empire_of_the_mind

The severe charges/rumors thereof are designed to turn the screws on Weiner. They're letting him know that if he doesn't flip he's going down on the hardest possible charges.

FriesischShipping

Good point. Will he flip and snitch?Or will he go down like a true gangster?

Orange_Circle

I don't see Weiner as a pedo though. I mean, there is a lot of difference between sexting a 15 year old who is sexting you back with videos of her doing freaking things and the CumPandas of the CPP crowd diddling little toddler boys.

Make no mistake, Weiner is obviously wrong for doing that. He could find plenty of 18 year olds who would have been willing. But it seems to be less pedophilish than the men out there raping toddlers.

Queen_Puabi

Where I live consent age is 16, so yeah, way different.

IPleadThe2nd

That is why when someone is charged with raping or molesting a minor you will see the age range included: "child under 12", vs "child under 16" for example. The younger the ages the stiffer the penalty typically. So while wiener is a defenerate pervert, being attracted to post pubescent girls is classified differently than being attracted by pre pubescent children.

ALDO_NOVA

you forget this picture of him with his son, taking sexting pics?

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/weiner-index-featured.jpg?quality=90&strip=all

Barry_McCochiner

I'm pretty sure there are two separate sext pics that Weiner sent-one in his underwear with his infant child in bed beside him. I thought it was super creepy, then saw the more recent one and again, he's got his kid in his arms. This time while hes got his muscle shirt pulled up showing his abs.

Edit to add the pics

First time he got caught https://i.imgtc.com/0bAxHdW.png

Most recently, he sent this one to a minor. https://i.imgtc.com/Viy7b1H.png

Orange_Circle

If he sent that to a grown man I could buy that he's a pedophile. I think he's just a deluded and oversexed run of the mill pervy guy.

whitehand

According to what was leaked by NYPD there was some really nasty crap on Weiner's laptop. The 15 yr old sexting was the lesser of his crimes according to insiders. Either way he is a predator. I would be willing to bet that 15 yr old had been abused before which is why she was acting like that with a grown man. Girls won't seek out men as old as he is without having been sexually abused in the past. I could see your argument if Weiner was in his 20's but he is definitely a predator.

Orange_Circle

He's a fantasy predator, but I don't think he's a pedophile.

Fateswebb

Well yeah. He is an old ass married politician dude, and texting a 15 year old. That's no normal cheating on your wife that's sexual predator.

derram

https://archive.is/XM7Nm :

        Nearly 500 arrested in California human trafficking raids | Reuters

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