Oh fuck off OP . He can't "discredit" pizzagate because he has some not so mainstream opinions. You can't discredit facts because you have some opinions about another topic. I'm not even a huge of that guy. But you can't "discredit" pizzagate. YOU. CAN'T.

he's still fighting the good fight. his rant about adrenochrome means he's found out about the Blood Infusion of victims for a psychotropic effect. the old movie line about 'they feed off your fear, the more scared you are, the more they like it' has to do with 'charging' the victim's bloodstream with adrenaline, before consumation. really sick Vampirish kinda shit. David's mind is being hyper~redpilled by the true facts.

Email in Stratfor files on Wikileaks about CIA Majestic 12. MK ultra is a spin off of majestic 12. Majestic 12 has to do with UFO secrets. It actually could have something to with this. https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/16/1641924_-fwd-tactical-james-jesus-angleton-training-assignment-pls.html Obama put up on the whitehouse. Gov site sometime in the last 4-5 months that if their was a threat from space maybe solar flare or UFO. That martial law would be declared. Don't be surprised at what these people will do to hide this. I'll get the link for that later. I'm tired...

Exactly, if they are prepared to do all that sick sick stuff to kids, then they must have some kind of mass mental illness going on, or a mass delusion to be able to rationalise it to themselves.

You guys don't play 5 dimensional chess like GW and Seaman the NWO and I have been playing, I have been a truther for 22 years and have forgotten more about the truth movement than most of you have yet to discover, not a brag or a boastful comment. I was a pedo abuse victim 47 yrs ago and my motivation, integrity and altruism are not to be questioned here, I suffered the consequences my whole life from being a victim. Trust me when I say there is so much evil afoot that was about 75% implemented when the Podesta Wikileaks and 4 chan started to unravel all this.. It was coming to a head and through our COLLECTIVE EFFORTS AND THROUGH SIFTING through METRIC TONS OF CHAFF that I was combing through all those years I finally decided to come forward on this platform, and for all that time I was digging that I can honestly tell you all that all conspiracy theories have a nugget of truth to them, except flat earth which is busted. Some were way off some were close but between GW and Seaman and the army of citizen investigation journalists I think we are about to see a whole new world soon, but vigilance is still required. The biggest ever misinformation operation ever , the Anctartica/Alien/Disclosure/Antigravity limited hangout psyop is coming and maybe sooner than what they intended to go with.

I helped him debunk the Flat Earth cointel psyop that was designed to lump all truther movements into fakenews/tin foil hatted nonsense minutes ago under my pseudo Fins&Racks Outdoors and as @martel_al on twatter yesterday and night before..

Concern trolls. The pizzagate stuff is real. PizzaGate is actually small potatoes. PizzaGate is about the one McDonald's that Clinton associates frequent. Meanwhile there is a whole Fast food industry with McDonald's and taco bells and burger king everywhere.

The alien stuff is real too. Wrap your brains around it and expand your sense of the possible. When this shit goes down your friends/family who haven't been red-pilled will be looking for help so get ready

My incredibly valuable opinion on Seaman. Not a shill. Just getting a little unhinged and needs to chill. I think he's (compared to me) young, and still a bit naive and impressionable. I don't think he understands that when he gets on these tangents he's doing more harm than good. Maybe he's a bit too isolated.

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Gotta really use critical thinking skills, and your gut.

I trust him, for what it's worth. Isn't he the one that put together that huge sticky? That was a lot of work. People do have other things that they're interested in (though of course this is pizzagate territory only) ... we shouldn't call them shills though just because they veer a little bit now and then, as people have been previously passionate about many different things (before ever discovering pizzagate).

Good point! If HRC was in and we were protesting they'd bring out hologram tupac/Jesus!

Seamans latest Youtube video is excellent and makes sense from my point of view:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66AJg8cTNRw

I bet that Daily Show interview gets rescheduled now.

David was talking about the beliefs of elite and how it ties into PizzaGate. He also said Antarctica was being used to distract from PizzaGate. His last post mentioned Huffington post article about planned trip scientists searching Antarctica. http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2017/02/antarctica-disclosure-coming-soon.html?m=1

The biggest CIA sponsored light show psyop is about begin.

He killed it, watch the video!

Maybe 4D chess? Make the media attack him and then say... ok, so if promoting alien conspiracy theories completely discredits me as a responsible person then how was this guy almost Secretary of State:

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/07/politics/john-podesta-hillary-clinton-ufo/index.html

Rule violation, Rule 1. This post is going to have to be deleted.

The thing is, David didn't research (enough) and don't want to inform on new leads on Pizzagate, every true researcher can see it... And here he is talking about Aliens/Antarctica and "debunking" FE people while surely knowing Flat Earth theory isn't a PSYOP. He demonizes millions of FE people who were over the YEARS among the BEST researchers of Pizzagate topics. David Seaman is a SHILL, and, his timing is PERFECT.

Careful of who you shill for

His twitter has now been deleted.

I just watched that video. Mind boggligly weird. Like some sort of bad HPL/Icke crossover fanfiction.

His Twitter is being taken out. PLEASE ARCHIVE THESE!! http://m.imgur.com/gallery/RNHHg

His Twitter is being taken out. EverytIme I go there more and more things have disappeared and it says "user not found"

Will check the video, but remember that aliens/ET's/UFO's are above top secret. As ridiculous as it sounds, GHWBush told Pres. Carter that he couldn't give him access to UFO/ET info because Carter "didn't have high enough security clearance."
Check the Wm. Tomkins interview by Project Camelot where he is relating Nazis were working with aliens -- not very nice ones. Story goes into Antarctica.
Ending is basically The Twilight Zone's "To Serve Mankind" with punch line ... "It's a cookbook!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb18kkVlRh4&t=17s

Joe Rogan & Alex Jones after resisting pizzagate discussed it on a podcast and mixed it in with aliens and space shit.

Titus Frost & David Seaman both recently discussed flat earth bullshit along with pizzagate in recent videos.

Marty Leeds who made that documentary A Primer is an established Flat Earther.

We can't look to leaders for this movement or effort. We have to look to ourselves and each other. Peace.

Great post by the way!!

thought he gave up twitter for gab

Did you hear that Russia just sold 19 percent of Rosneft, one of the biggest oil companies in the world and nobody knows who bought it?

Why can't people on here accept that paranoia is a real mental health issue and it often comes on slowly and then increases?

This was his "other big news" he had to stop commenting on pizzagate for? After he "did his part" (ie, say "pizzagate is real," not credit real investigators or findings, ask for money)? Come on guys. Stop looking for a hero. Of course he's doing this to make us look stupid.

I do not see a problem with what he is saying, he is just laying out the possibility of an attempt by those in high places, that they may try to bring about a huge event to cause people to take their focus away from pizzagate......I have been seeing on internet news a lot of interest lately by several in positions of government making trips to Antarctica......even the Pope and another religious leader I believe of Russian Orthodox faith made a trip.....John Kerry, Putin....David has not gone bonkers, he is just giving a warning to maybe expect some strange happening in an effort to deflect from the Pizzagate story. Yes there may be a possibility they have found something, but they may try to use it to their advantage.... If you want to check out an old story about Antarctica.....look into Admiral Richard E. Byrd and Operation Highjump 1946......I have faith in David, he is not a shill.

Well at least he is not a flat earther lol https://youtu.be/66AJg8cTNRw

Maybe he could have just spoke about possible psyops that could be used to cover up pizzagate and then stopped there tho. But to be honest I wouldn't put it past these sick bastards to try and hide it by trying to dupe the world with Antarctica and aliens, they have tried fake news, a shooting psyop and riots and( hopefully) none of these dirty tricks has or will work.

Edit-new tweet https://mobile.twitter.com/SimonAshari/status/827394158566395905 It's the huffpost so obviously they full of shite

On Aliens - dunno, never met one (I think). But try doing an image search for "Mars moon 58", "Mars anomalies" or "lunar anomalies". Something's not right.

Pizzagate is nothing new. What is new is the email leak, the word pizzagate and people like this investigating it online.

Back in the 60's, NYPD Detective Jim Rothstein as well as others I am personally aware of, were investigating this. For every investigation that should have gone somewhere (such as the Franklin Scandal) there was a shut down as soon as they got to a certain point.

In the few years prior to the word pizzagate being coined, there is much evidence to show that this was coming. The bad guys KNEW the truth was about to be exposed. No doubt they started planning what to do if the you know what hit the fan.

What is different this time? The internet! Social media! The bad guys knew their battle to escape guilt would be bigger than ever. So they started to prepare. And they set up an elaborate game. Like D & D but in real life. The perfect gameboard? Antarctica.

Think about it. Whatever evidence they have or have made up, all transported to a central location and prepared for a 'release' to the world. The minute this gets too big for the bad guys, BOOM! LOOKIE! WE FOUND ALIENS! GIANTS! SPACE SHIPS! And of course, pizzagate will take a back seat for all but the victims. People have been begging for alien info for too long for this not to excite them far more than than what is looking like a conspiracy theory to those not educated. Not to mention pizzagate isn't their only big problem if they are exposed.

Antarctica is how they will fire back. And win. If we aren't ready. So it's not about the connection. There is no connection. But there will be if they are faced with prosecution.

I'm going to chime in here and voice my concerns about the motives of David Seaman as well. When I was in journalism school, the legitimacy and power of a story was driven by the sources a reporter quoted or cited. Seaman rarely provides sources. A reporter wanting his work to be seriously considered would meticulously source it.

Secondly, I find it concerning that Seaman kept talking about pizzagate when other "big name" voices who initially reported on it -- Breitbart, Drudge, Milo, Alex Jones -- went silent "at the request of Washington" as Milo put it, after Trump won. There's only one reason I can think of that Seaman didn't get that memo: he wasn't on the distribution list.

I wonder whether you're a shill, but in this instance I agree with you.

I hope all the people seeing this remember the voaters that were skeptical of Seaman and how he was simply catapulted into Pizzagate stardom. I say this for two reasons: a. to bring awareness to the other voaters (not me for I haven't really contributed near as much as others have) that originally called this that have contributed valid material so that it will reinforce a measure of credibility for them and b. to point out how easy this is to see -- no disrespect intended to anyone. I'm not saying, 'I'm all that.' Simply, these are classic COINTEL/disinfo tactics... called 'limited hangout.' or gatekeeper. He worked for Huffington Post, for fuck's sake. Had a 'falling out.' 'The best way to control the opposition is to lead it.' -- Lenin. Yes, some of the shills are poor at it and suck and you can see right through it -- Mark Dice, DoohDooh7, etc. But look at Alex Jones, or Joe Rogan. Most think that they're legit -- THEY ARE NOT. THEY ARE COINTEL/DISINFO. Meant to garner a huge following -- they'll tell you all the truth you can handle -- until they're masters tell them to start pumping the b.s. Then it's, 'Ebola,' or 'Fema camps and martial law,' or 'Sandy Hook was a 'false flag,'' instead of a hoax like we know it to be. This is about IDENTITY POLITICS. They want you to relate to this character and get addicted, so addicted that you forget to check the info. ...rant...

Everything he's saying lines up with what David Wilcock is saying right now. Supposedly this is in fact what the elites truly believe in. They believe they are a bloodline that traces its roots to the time of Atlantis and even further back, that they were seeded by aliens "the nephilim" in the book of genesis, or the Annunaki from ancient mesopotamia. This is where their god, Moloch, comes from. Specifically this is the god they'd sacrifice their children to and can be seen referenced in the Podesta emails even today. It's the owl that they perform a mock human sacrifice(of a child size effigy) in front of at the Bohemian Grove. Alex Jones broke the story and recorded video of that. David Icke has discussed the elites' belief that their bloodline gets its power from extra dimensional beings. What he's saying lines up with what many other noted researchers have said before. Does that mean it's true? Perhaps, perhaps not. David Wilcock has been saying that the elites know they're fucked so badly right now and that it's only a matter of time before they are completely unveiled for all their crimes against humanity. Because they know they're fucked, they have a Hail Mary game plan of a "Partial Alien Disclosure" type event that will serve as a mass distraction so that they can scurry away into the shadows while the rest of the world is coping with such a mind bending revelation. Supposedly it all is boiling down to Antarctica. Supposedly they're going to break the news on discovering the lost civilization of Atlantis there as a smoke screen. I think he's just trying to get this out before hand so that he can in fact use it as even more proof retroactively should this be in our near future.

Army, this is one time I have to agree with you. The thing I find problematic with Seaman is that he never cites any sources that would allow people to verify what he is saying. The only reason a "journalist" would do that is because they don't WANT to be verified. That may fly for the few remaining viewers of CNN, but it doesn't cut it for the rest of us.

This was definitely inappropriate. If he's genuine, this was definitely a bad choice for himself strategically in terms of moving the investigation forward. Even his jump into Illuminati coverage was a bit much. Even if the Illuminati shit is all true, which we all know Pizzagate leads into some related weeds, that information is not what is going to get Pizzagate thrust to the forefront of public perception.

With that said, I'm so fucking tired of people using the idea of Aliens to discredit things. I'm tired of people mentioning Project Bluebeam as being the ultimate false-flag on reserve for when shit is uncovered. Not a single person is actually knowledgeable on the subject of UFOs passed Ancient Aliens and Secureteam10 bullshit. I'm not saying Aliens is more important than Pizzagate - in fact, I put a hold on my research into the UFO phenomenon after 2 years because of wikileaks and pizzagate. However, not a single person I have seen or conversed with online or in person is actually knowledgeable on the history, research, and evidence regarding the UFO phenomenon.

I understand how Aliens can be used to discredit investigation being as your average individual does not believe in them, and thinks anyone looking into it is a little crazy. But what really drives me crazy is the fact that I spent fucking years researching the UFO phenomenon and have left very fucking surprised at how much evidence there really is on the subject. Mainstream media and culture has done so much fucking damage to research on the phenomenon that it is damn near impossible to get any legitimate individuals to research anything regarding the subject.

I didn't spend years researching nothing. I didn't pour over hundreds of documents, witness testimony (including military, civilian, government, law enforcement) for no reason. I consciously started this research to build a factual foundation of what we really do know on the phenomenon and made an active attempt to rid myself of all my psuedo Ancient Alien, UFO files bullshit to pursue solid evidence grounded in reality. I expected to be incredibly disappointed - UFOs to me, ever since I was a child, was a "sacred" topic. It brought me comfort regardless of the circumstances and filled me with hope that maybe there's more out there in the world. I was never much of a paranormal guy, or a ghost guy...aliens were my thing. So, as I entered adulthood, I decided that it is best to see for myself if there truly is evidence regarding the UFO phenomenon, even if it came with the cost of my "sacred" childhood daydreams being viciously ripped down as fake, baseless, bullshit claims.

And yet I was proven otherwise, and I was very surprised.

The amount of evidence surrounding the UFO phenomenon is absolutely astounding. I want you to also keep in mind that UFOs =/= Aliens. The truth of the matter is, I never asserted that Aliens were responsible for ALL UFO sightings, but multiple scientific and governmental agencies around the world have. Not many people understand this - a huge amount of the evidence we currently have on UFOs came immediately after "The Scare" (yes, our government called the UFO wave "The Scare") in the late 1940s starting with Kenneth Arnold's sighting over Mt. Rainier. Refer to Project SIGN, and read up on the history of it. Understand that there was an intensive study made during the influx of sightings known as The Scare that resulted in government investigators coming to an incredible conclusion - that though we do not have one single conclusion as to what the phenomenon is, the likelihood of UFOs being extraterrestrial spacecraft is likely. Many do not know that our own government has acknowledged that the UFO phenomenon is "likely" to be extraterrestrial. Unfortunately, during the SIGN investigation, the Pentagon was split into two opposing factions on the subject: Those who believed that UFOs had an explainable or natural origin, and those that believed in the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis (ETH). Now, during the investigation, the faction opposing the ETH caught a whiff that an investigation into the matter was going down and their conclusion was the ETH. So what did they do? Well, they created their OWN investigation, came to the conclusion that UFOs were a natural phenomenon and promptly rushed their report out before Project SIGN investigators could. This ONE action in 1948 is what laid the groundwork for how we perceive the UFO phenomenon today: crazy, baseless, and worthless. By 1949, SIGN was dissolved, its name changed to GRUDGE and subsequently into Blue Book, which was largely a public relations campaign formed in order to calm the public regarding the matter. Scientists like J. Allen Hynek were hired to "explain away" ONLY the explainable sightings while selectively avoiding the other unexplainable ones. You ever heard of the term "swamp gas"? Often used to discredit witnesses? Well, that was J. Allen Hynek that coined that term. He was vehemently against the idea that UFOs were anything mysterious.

Well, you know what happened to J. Allen Hynek? While doing the job he was hired to do (explain away the trivial, unimportant sightings), he naturally came across cases that were truly unexplainable. This 1% of cases that were in the Blue Book files completely changed his perspective, and from that moment onward to the day he died, he maintained that the UFO phenomenon is real, and possibly extraterrestrial.

So, there you have it. Look, Aliens don't belong in Pizzagate research, that's for fucking sure. But do not fall for the idea that evidence regarding the UFO phenomenon is baseless or nonexistant, because that is simply not true. Again, UFOs and ALIENS are not synonymous, but the fact remains that we have not been adequately able to eliminate the ETH as a possibility over many years of multiple organizations studying this phenomenon. It isn't that the evidence points toward Aliens....it is just that the evidence of this phenomenon is making it incredibly difficult to confidently eliminate it as a possibility. That alone speaks volumes.

Oh no it's not you again. God you've wrecked this board.

Armyseer is a shill. A bad one.

Then they are burning his function now, which is significant. The busts going down may be more important than I gave them credit for, but something still seems fishy about them.

Armyseer is a shill and disinformation agent.

Unfollowed him an hour ago

Chew the meat and spit out the bones.

This isn't that far off what Alex Jones was saying on Joe Rogan yesterday, it isn't that far off the wild speculations some have always posted here and 4chan and other sites. I mean this is a HUGE leap, but if he's right... things are changing and it will be a great time to be alive. Frankly, what Seaman believes doesn't matter, whether its disinfo doesn't matter. There is no one here who is that mentally weak to let this be their starting point for our message. But, as always, we have to be patient and realize we may be fighting something bigger here than we ever realized... I hope we did win. I hope we find out soon.

I don't know exactly what to make of Seaman.From what I understand, he is discrediting the Antarctica hoax., saying it's a distraction. As far as aliens, he's not saying there are aliens, he is saying they believe they are from aliens so to speak. If you understand luciferianism and illuminati bloodlines, they probably believe they are from the fallen angels or as some ppl believe them to be, aliens. So, not exactly disclosing alien information. Idk just playing the devils advocate here.

This guy is losing it. https://twitter.com/d_seaman/status/827364803534544896

He didn't say that aliens were real. He was saying that there is a group that claims that they are aliens. That is a big difference.

There has been a lot of talk about Aliens for years....some even say there's a government plan to introduce an alien threat. There is evidence of Aliens, some of it fabricated, some of it real. Odd how Allister Crowley's drawing of a "demon" he managed to conjure or manifest through rituals...looked a lot like what people who claim to have seen aliens also describe. If bloodlines descended from "aliens", well hmmm.... in that book that was removed from the bible, it talked about demons that once walked the earth in material form and bred with humans. Also odd how that book and many others were removed from the bible by the Church of England about 500 years ago when they started teaching the Copernican Theory of a ball earth going around a sun.....because also in the book of Enoch was a lot of explanation about our earth and the stars above us, how it all works including the calendar that despite language differences, is used worldwide.

Just things to ponder. But then again, while pondering, one might ask how come both poles are off limits? And why is the conception of our earth, charted through actual exploration and used to navigate accurately by for thousands of years kept hidden and a lie told instead, that people thought you would fall off the edge? Nobody thought that....and why keep that previous conception of our earth hidden? If nothing else, its quite the novelty....and very ingenious how everyone had it figured back then.....but not even the most educated have ever seen that model or its mechanics....instead a lie that people thought you would fall off the edge.

And while we're asking questions......NASA has been going up into outer space for 60 years. By the 1980's the public wanted to go too. But we all remember how that turned out....members of the public were selected and all died when the rocket blew up, proving space travel is best left to the professionals....us laymen can see it in images (imagery being the most powerful tool in magic according to the satanic bible). Its been 30 years since that shuttle accident....and since there have been thousands of launches to put satellites in place, there's regular travel to and from the space station for different astronauts to do their stints up there.....and for 30 years with thousands of missions, there's been zero accidents...a 100% safety record.....so now can we make a tour for the public up into low orbit? Come on, I'd like to go for a "trip around the world". With NASA's 20 billion a year, maybe they could set up a public tour of low orbit space..if they charged people that would pay for itself. I think we should petition for a low orbit public tour... a ship that can take a few passengers 100 miles up, instead of investing in a craft to go 300,000,000 miles out to Jupiter to take a few images of Jupiter close up.....I mean I could use Photoshop and make the images of Jupiter for them if they would just grant us a public tour.

What's the message of all that "science"? ...its the name of the a recent Hawkins documentary even: "There is no God". Or you can catch famed astrophysicist Lawrence Krauss on his travelling roadshow preaching at universities....after explaining how the universe began with a star exploding.....he always uses his punchline "Forget Jesus! Thank a star for dying so you could be here!!", or you can see Bill Nye, the failed comedian turned television scientist, at the opening of a Noah's Ark exhibit screaming "its child abuse to teach the bible!".....or now in grade school curriculum....the correct answer on tests is "God is a myth"...the answer is wrong if you make any other choice on the standardized testing. Not suprising, most of those involved with the space program or those who developed the notion we live on a ball, to include Pythagorean who first thought up the idea, but couldn't draw up a working model...to Copernicus who finally drew a working model.....to Disney and Von Braun who took us to the moon....are all associated with "satanism"...go figure.

Thanks!

Fuck this alien bullshit. Let's just say he's telling the truth ( just humor me here), why the hell would you bring this up now ? Especially knowing how the media already does its damnest to make PG look fake? Why not wait till after PG gets busted to talk about this stuff, so then people will be less dismissive of these crazy theories? Why the FUCK would you bring it up now, and risk slowing down PG, which in-turn allows kids to be abused for longer?

Fuck you Seaman, you are now indirectly involved in harming kids.

Are you guys talking about his video today about "flat earth shills"? Or what?

I used to believe he was helping us...FUCK HIM!

I hope he's just onto the next big thing first bitcoing, then pizzagate, then antartica/secret space program/aliens.

Looking like Seaman might be a disinfo shill. From what I hear, he never reported much of the actual evidence on pizzagate. It could easily be that he was just getting himself associated with pizzagate and building cred so he could then start spouting nonsense and make pizzagate look like tinfoil-hat stuff. The main things here that sound nonsensical so far are (1) the claim that the Clintons believe they are descended from aliens:

https://twitter.com/d_seaman/status/827335239718543361

Personally, I do believe aliens exist, but this sounds completely ridiculous.

And (2) this retweet about "Reptilians": https://twitter.com/ILMDRACOS/status/826906569858220032

Also, flairing this post as important. Whether you believe Seaman is a shill or not, this is very significant.

The fact @Twitter didn't block his account basically confirms he is trolling and discrediting Pizzagate. The day after a massive pedo-arrest in LA.

He's certainly working for someone in high places now. The pay must be good.

none of us here are talking about aliens, or antartica or any other bleeding mountain bullshit. damnit.

He certainly did... https://twitter.com/d_seaman