Fateswebb

WHY. And are the children saved for real or it's a mind fuxk? Not sure but why? This is going to be a hard question to ask as a citizen. But why? And when? And I know these answers but if the FBI made it clear to the law enforcement, as we know they did and besides Chicago certainly LA... got the message so how is it possible that all the sherrifs especially the ones the FBI told about this document that was RELEASED FOR POLICE. Didn't realize they are actually wearing the symbol?? HOW??

rp5x5

Do a google image search for "Grunge Triangles" one textile page mentions the Grunge Triangles copied from paleolithic art. you can also find various "paleolithic art Triangles"

VieBleu

Homework: Everyone watch LA Confidential when they have some time. LA cop corruption, prostitution rings for very wealthy clients, human trafficking with a cosmetic surgery twist, even "fake news" in the form of publicity and controlling the press. . Guy Pearce breakout role, Kim Bassinger's last good role probably. Not a bad film

rp5x5

Here you go History of the LA county Sheriff badge. http://www.scvhistory.com/scvhistory/lasdhistory2011.pdf

There is at least one picture of an antique badge with the design in question ..(article mentions 1932 when badges were being standardized.) The badge showing the design in question, dated 1938.

VieBleu

FBI trolling?

rp5x5

As long as there are wacky paranoids who see every use of ubiquitous art designs. making pizzagate researchers look like nuts, then the average person will think pizzagate is nonsense.

Face it, there is NO inherent nefariousness about the design itself. It is stupid my comments are downvoted because I suggest that the symbol is just a normal art design and has NO meaning by itself.

thestormking

Much like spirit cooking is just "art" I suppose. If there's one thing we've learned from all this it's that nobody is beyond scrutiny. As those who allege to investigate sex crimes they ought to know better than to promote that symbol on their official uniforms. You'd be foolish to think that not one person on that department ever noticed that before.

rp5x5

No "spirit cooking" is not just an art.

EmmanuelG0ldstein

I believe he was being sarcastic. Your original comment implies innocence without investigation; which is contrary to justice. If it's an innocent mistake, that will be the verdict, if not then there's questions which must be answered.

thestormking

You get me man! You get me! sniff = )

newworldahead

I don't understand your reasoning. It's the same logo, this is relevant. We have to put this in the moutain of evidence we have gather so far and move on. You cannot dismiss things just because you believe it is a coincidence. You are the one who should use common sense here.

It's fine if you think it's a mere coincidence, but don't assume it's 100% proven and that there is nothing to see here. This is not rational, think about it.

rp5x5

It's not a Sheriff logo it's a common design in a badge and a normal design a artist designer would use in triangle corners. Use some critical thinking. That's rational. There is no context to think Sheriffs are part of the pedophile rings. Some artist made the design many years ago. Im sure you can find cave drawings that use the same design. Seriously this is ridiculous and makes pizzagate researchers look like mental patients.

newworldahead

You seem to be the only one here who believe this is ridiculous. Do you think the Besta Pizza logo is irrelevant too? What about the Elpida logo? All coincidences? You'll tell Ben Swann how ridiculous he was for pointing it out in his segment.

As I said, it is irresponsible to dismiss evidence without investigating it first. You are the one who need to think critically

rp5x5

Ugh. No i don't think the Besto symbol is irrelevant. No comparison, unless you can dig up Eugene Biscailuz, art collection and it shows weird things. Or show me when the design was first used by pedophiles

EmmanuelG0ldstein

We know for a fact these police departments have been covering up these pedorings.. Yet you don't want to accept that they may be involved. You can't just refuse to investigate something because it seems a bit far-fetched, that's not how the truth is found. It may well be coincidence, it may not.. That's what discovery is for in legal proceedings.

JUNOAK

This is more evidence of how this design could come about completely by accident. In the other thread someone had found out that this design had been used since 1948 . Is there any evidence that the pedophile symbol had been used anywhere near that long?

If you pay attention you will see posts like these pop up regularly of people noticing the symbols out in the world. It's a design that's so simple it's bound to come about every once in a while. Lots of sheriffs badges are pointed for instance which sets the structure for whatever has to fill that space. I bet there are more instances of badges using that design like that.

rail606

Pedos have always existed. Rome, Babylon you name it most civilizations have it.

HonestDonald

And it looks like an ancient symbol.

rp5x5

Have to not assume this is some bizarre nefarious thing. It's a natural design an artist might use. Badges are not exactly high art. If you were designing a badge it would be pretty natural to use that design in the corners. I'm sure i've drawn that design into triangle doodles. A young kid drawing could do that naturally.

Of course Stars, 5 or 6 pointed are endemic and not necessarily Zionist, Freemason, or anything suggesting darker conspiratorial meanings.

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rp5x5

Downvoting my comment because I use common sense and backed up the argument, means some people here are actually detrimental to Pizzagate research.

EmmanuelG0ldstein

While I do agree this is most likely a coincidence, I do believe people within law enforcement are involved heavily. The fact that this hasn't been changed since the discovery of the paedophile re-appropriation is suspect. Law enforcement who haven't investigated tips or evidence relating to paedophilia should be tarred with the same brush.

VieBleu

2nd comment - well rp5.5 - turns out there is some very interesting history behind this. You can't just dismiss things as a cowinkeedink now.

Alpo said, on this thread https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1612852 LOOK AT THIS! http://www.scvhistory.com/scvhistory/lasdhistory2011.htm

See pages 20, 25, 26, 59 and 60.

The badge with the Boy Lover symbol originated with Sheriff E. W. Biscailuz, who had a badge custom made for him with this symbol.

"Around 1939, Sheriff Biscailuz developed the Sheriff's Boys Band. This group of juvenile musicians was organized and trained by Colonel Vesey Walker, an experienced and veteran conductor. Under the sponsorship of the Sheriff's Department they appeared in various cities, proudly representing the finest Sheriff's Deptpartment in the entire country."

"Another innovative first by Sheriff Biscailuz was the creation of the “Junior Deputy” program in the 30’s. The program has since morphed into today’s Law Enforcement Explorer program."

Could this be just another coincidence?

Additional information:

http://archive.is/vIFRd "During Prohibition, Biscailuz was one of an influential band of revelers who called themselves the Uplifters Club and built their own Rustic Canyon hangout. The exclusive men's group, drawn from the rich, powerful and famous, included newspaper and bank executives, and Hollywood celebrities Will Rogers, Walt Disney, Spencer Tracy, Clark Gable, Harold Lloyd and Daryl F. Zanuck."

More about the Uplifters: http://archive.is/XrgdS

Yet more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Uplifters The Uplifters produced a play titled "The Uplift of Lucifer"

rp5x5

So lets throw anyone who worked with young people under the bus. All teachers, cops, band directors, fathers-- under the bus. The badge in question was created in 1938. You are besmerching the name of someone considered a good law man. This kind of sloppy logic makes pizzagate researchers look bad to the average person. If you have something---anything more then conjecture---on Sheriff Biscailuz show it.

First prove when the design was used as a pedo symbol. Grunge triangles used in textiles based on paleothic paintings, seriously cavemen pedophiles....because the design looks like...what? There is no hidden meaning to the design itself. Pizzagate research wastes time with dumb things.

VieBleu

no we are not going to be unreasonable, as you suggest, nor is there a need for extremism. What is needed is a measured, reasonable investigation.
Your concern is so appreciated though.

rp5x5

You would probably admit that the questions the average person would ask have not yet been answered. Going off on loose associations doesn't help the cause.

The first question people ask is "Can you prove that Pedophila symbol memo really came from the FBI?" The next question is, when did pedophiles first start using these symbols and phrases?

I have seen very little info from the Dark Web demonstrating how the terms and symbols are used in the marketplace. I certainly am not going to explore it, nor will the average person.

We also have no idea how much the FBI and other law enforcement is doing to further the investigation. For all anyone knows, they are makng an airtight case, or maybe they are afraid too. We just don't know.

Relying on "FBI Anon" to make a case to the public is pretty useless. Who is FBI Anon? they ask. The major features of the Pizzagate investigation, has made little headway since the main revelations.

In the meantime these tangents aren't helpful.

VieBleu

what goes on here isn't really investigation per se, as a genuine investigation is beyond the scope of the average person, just as you say. It is more akin to journalism but without any training. The value here is in crowd sourcing attention to a matter that quickly produces a great deal of leads for genuine law enforcement and hopefully real journalists to sift through. Along with a few good leads comes a lot of crap, stupid comments and misdirection as well as outright shilling to deflect. You can't stand the heat then step out of the kitchen. Nothing wrong with you calling bs on anything you like, but I disagree that if 1 person or even a majority of people say something dumb, that means the entire effort is worthless, and everyone here is a boob on a witchunt. This is definitely not true. That's black and white thinking as bad as the bs you call out.

rp5x5

People can be people, but seeing"SMOKING Gun" then silliness, for the hundreth time doesnt help the cause. I tend to think a lot of the misdirection Are shills, but unprovable. It could also be some people grasping at straws and in some cases people with tenuous grasp on reality, (not to be mean).

VieBleu

Even so, I do find the compendium of information compiled here these two months very interesting, fascinating at times.

VieBleu

well you are a bit late to that realization. this place is infested. But looking through the thread the most common sense answer is neither of you. Sometimes there are coincidences, sometimes it is not. Further research into the history of that symbol, as well as the history of the badge design, is needed. I would also like to have a lot more information from the FBI - THEY are ultimately responsible for putting that out as a standard against which pedo activity is declared cloaked whenever that symbol pops up. We need an explanation from them as to how they came to designate all the symbols as such.

Downvoating is just people expressing their opinion, I wouldn't take it too seriously or personally.

rp5x5

I haven't posted here much because way to many threads are too flaky. I read them, but alot of them are not doing much for overall credibility. My comments here are not to discredit pizzagate but to point out how pure conjecture proves nothing.

VieBleu

there is a lot a lot a lot of shilling here to discredit the genuine effort that is made. Use the search bar and look at older stuff. there are some diamonds among the crap.

nowimonvoattoo

If you knew anything about symbolism you would understand that there is no such thing as coincidence in this regard.

rp5x5

Well since I have ph.d in a related subject I must not know anything. Be real. As far as nefarious symbols in art, ancient and modern, I am well aware of nefarious meanings, but use common sense. Give a ten year old kid a piece of art paper, pens and a ruler and tell him to make triangles designs and the odds of coming up with that design is about 100%. Of course some silly people might think aliens are beaming messages into the kids mind. From the point of view of karma, nothing is a coincidence, but you know that common natural symbols historically have been used for different purposes. Nefarious use is more a case of co-opting existing symbols and art designs, such as the Nazi co-opting the swastika.

Ultimately what I am saying is common sense and using every use of a simple design weakens the pizzagate research. There has to be a sensible context to think it is being used as the pedophile symbol.

lude

100% is a little much don't you think? Also, I find it a bit concerning that it is a REGISTERED logo FBI information sheet for pedophiles? Anyone that is in the law enforcement community should have maybe spoke up a bit about it? I think it causes question for concern considering the vast network that operates worldwide. Besides, we ARE investigating this so why shoot it down. I think it means something, no matter how small.

rp5x5

I'm only shooting down extending this pedophile symbol too far. The symbol is said to be used by pedophiles but seriously how long has this design been used this way? Might as well say the shape of a piece of pizza is a pedo symbol. If Triangle designs and circles have pedo meanings then Geometry teachers must be pedophiles. No, 100% is accurate. As a kid i'm sure you too doodled. This design is so basic only a person with extreme concrete thinking would think it has an inherent meaning.

JUNOAK

If it is a coincidence then it really is meaningless. Lots of the pizzagate stuff is either extremely incriminating or is absolutely nothing.

Did you know that that design on the badge was made in 1948? Is there any evidence that the boylover symbol has been used anywhere near that far back?

lude

There isn't and maybe the symbol was subverted into a new meaning by them. Maybe you're right

SoldierofYAH

Whoah. It goes deep. Makes total sense, though. It is widely known in the "truth" community that many officials in the highest levels of law enforcement (police chiefs of major cities, heads of FBI, etc) are compromised and pawns of the "Illuminati" (or ruling NWO elites, whatever you want to call them), with many of them involved in pedophilia for blackmail purposes.

dookiehowzer

because freemasonry is rooted into the community and police force

rp5x5

Triangles and designs are also rooted into the community. Don't get carried away with this.

Flat_Truth

About the Sheriff who created the design...."Around 1939, Sheriff Biscailuz developed the Sheriff's Boys Band. This group of juvenile musicians was organized and trained by Colonel Vesey Walker, an experienced and veteran conductor. Under the sponsorship of the Sheriff's Department they appeared in various cities, proudly representing the finest Sheriff's Deptpartment in the entire country.""Another innovative first by Sheriff Biscailuz was the creation of the “Junior Deputy” program in the 30’s. The program has since morphed into today’s Law Enforcement Explorer program."

Add to that, the Pope met with 60 police chiefs around the country to talk about cracking down on human trafficking. Its standard witchcraft.....to take something real and replace it with your own fake one. The real investigation is about children as young as babies being used in deeply depraved rituals and practices. The fake one is just arresting normal pimps, hos and mostly johns.

thestormking

The only problem is they're the ones claiming to investigate human sex trafficking and those badges aren't exactly what you'd call undercover attire. A rather unfortunate design choice wouldn't you say?

newworldahead

Yeah i saw this yesterday a created a post about it: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1612852

Perhaps someone else discovered the logo on the badge at the same time, I don't know.

carmencita

Read Wolftrail7272 reply in other post. It makes the most sense.

VieBleu

can't you just cut and paste it into this comment? or provide a link?

carmencita

Wolftrail7272 is the user name that made the comment. Not very good at the tech stuff. He is highly informed as to what is going on with this whole investigation. Listen to him. He knows a lot but cannot divulge all at the moment. Check all his posts. I am working on the research as well.

VieBleu

camencita, you need to know how to cut and paste. Have someone show you. This is the most basic thing you can do while writing on a computer.

WhyAserverWasBuilt

Let's call them and ask them why they use this..... 213.229.1700

VieBleu

let's not.