y'all need to chill. Seaman, Jones, even Milo have been told back off for now. --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDUA7i1hxBw <-- it's somewhat obvious that he was not bullied,, but requested to 'hold off'.

just a little poison in the drink is all it takes.

I'll be brief, as maybe this needs a different forum. I am Mandela effected. What brought it home for me...or redpilled me was the change in anatomy and geography. I will not go into all that, but this is a community that talks about 'normies' and redpilling and if it ain't on MSM it ain't real kinda thinking. Come on. As far as I am concerned, I reconciled with where I am at, for whatever reason. ME is not more important than children's welfare and well being. That is first and foremost to be guarded. This work is more important than anything, as far as I am concerned. I am a tad disappointed, however. Maybe that is why I can empathize so much with the kids. It is tough to know the reality of what is happening to you and have no one. I am sure I am not alone in these sentiments as the good work that goes on here demonstrates, but have a heart people. This is quite real to me and others. I am 54 years old. I am too old to lie and too old to be silent.

He never really covered pizzagate, just gave prominence to work that he also correctly credited to Wikileaks, and reddit and voat subs. Paid the price tho which is more than can be said by many here. I found him when I started looking into kuru-gate (back then we thought it was Parkinson's). He said as much that he was going to move away from pizzagate. When you don't have CIA handlers as editors, why not shift to cover the Mandela effect? What's he supposed to do? Report on the urgency of taking out a home loan before you get priced out? As far as I'm concerned, I never thought Mandela died in the nineties. I kind of think it was barenstain, but I didn't even know how to read when I used to like them so wtf cares? It's a fun topic with the potential for a sinister mass behavioral experiment. Didn't we all just learn that Facebook snowjobs it's own user's feeds? Nothing-burger.

STOP RANTING ABOUT DAVID SEAMAN AND ALEX JONES. Please. Do you all not see what the establishment is trying to do with this, divide and conquer. Make us fight among one another and distract us, etc, etc... don't let them win at this. We need David Seaman on this, he reports to the mainstream on Pizzagate and has brought a lot of awareness on it, do not knock him for that. Same for Alex jones, love him or hate him. We need all the people we can get on our side, not fight among each other and not watch their channel or promote it for stupid reasons. Come on you guys. It's the establishment doing this. Don't fall for it. Please.

Some of you are mad because you think David didn't do research and took credit-come on, you could make a YouTube channel yourself and talk about it but you chose not to so don't bash him for standing up and doing something about it. And if you're in this for "credit" leave now because that's NOT what this is about. You're not going to get a golden award for research-do it because you want justice for children being abused, nothing else. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!

Okay, now I'm curious about what Seaman did to affect these folk so mightily that they've brought out the pitchforks.

I like having reputable journalists speaking out. It's Seaman that was going to go on The Daily Show. He's not the face of pizzagate and is not some kind of leader. He's a reporter who's taken some hits. And pitting two people together is ridiculous. It's like saying there's only one good poster here ... and they're the face of Voat. No! No one poster is. Instead, they're are a lot of outstanding ones, but you don't compare them until you whittle it down to one.

Have no idea what's going on with the HRC & CO. vs. Seaman, but I applaud him for pissing them off. Must have been good whatever he said.

I officially can't stomach myopic no it alls, too simple to think outside their little brain boxes. As if this has anything to do with his PG research. You are a donkey.

So don't stand up for him, stand against censorship and people fucking with him. If he wants to be the next Art Bell or Alex Jones he has every right to do that.

First of all this shouldn't even be posted here. Secondly, David Seaman has been a huge proponent for Pizzagate. (He clearly stated a while back when pizzagate was being "shadowed", banned and scrubbed he merely suggested we use Pedgate to continue our momentum becasue he and many others feared "pizzagate" would completely blocked or scrubbed).

He has been very clear, on several occasions, that he is a reporter and will be covering many topics but when he stumbled upon Pizzagate he was compelled to help out and be a voice. He clearly stated he is NOT a researcher for Pizzagate.

David is currently interviewing for a job. He makes these videos using his own money while looking for a job. I would guess he is covering multiple topics to showcase his work and try and gain a sponsor or a new gig as a reporter.

If @obviousChild (fitting name for sure) doesn't want to continue following David then "Please child" DON'T follow him and there is NO need to post this crap and take our focus off the real cause AND call him a "Shill". (Obvious-ly Child-ish) behavior or as I see it maybe change your name to "AttentionWhore".

Bowling Green?

He is a mainstream Guy at the end of the day , he wants to be able to make a living , and to a certain extent he will do popularist stories . And just bring stuff to the masses .

It's so obvious that he has convinced some suit in Washington that he's got an audience on the internet and can lead them off the cliff to implode pizzagate. Such a dweeb. He makes me laugh. For anyone watching from afar....This is not going away and we're coming for you.

I thought it was a bit strange at the beginning when he asked people to stop using "pizzagate" and start using "pedogate" and he rarely mentions James Alefantis, which is fine. But I wonder if he's been told to zip it and change pizza to pedo to take heat off cpp

You whiners should stop complaining. What did YOU do to expose Pizzagate?

What? This is not that crazy at all. The strange thing is that i see no correlation on what happened on his twitter, and what he says on his videos. Maybe his twitter was hijacked?

He's gone of the rails. Time to disassociate with him and Alex Jones and anyone else who tries to divert our investigation and drive it off a cliff. Keep an eye on Titus Frost and Marty Leeds as well in these regards. Both delved into Flat Earth topic recently.

Here is my relevant post (IMO) from the other thread regarding David and The Mandela Effect: "it sounds like he is exploring the Mandela effect. I have a theory on this...my girlfriend is all about the Mandela effect and also claims to have feelings of deja vu occasionally....she also has post-concussion syndrome from a serious car accident several years ago. I looked around on PubMed and found articles linking the feeling of deja vu to impaired memory, prior head trauma and anxiety...so there is my theory on the Mandela Effect...and Seaman has anxiety I think? "

Is "grandstanding drama queen careerist" (and I agree that he is that) the same thing as "shill"?

When people use the word for just anybody they don't like or disagree with, it has lost all meaning

Hes a motherfucker, mandella effect is a SOROS CREATION, its not actually a thing, they want us to believe google over pur own collective consciousness, are memories are real dont fall for this bullshit, same thing they do with these kids. They made up "false memory syndrome" so pedos never get prosecuted. No idea where hes trying to go with this but the mandella effect is fake bullshit to try and rewrite our collective memories.

I don't know why people are knocking David Seaman over this. The "Mandela Effect" is easily explained by the media innocuously publishing what later turns out to be a legitimate mistake. The media gets lots of stuff wrong, they incorrectly announce an actors death when they're very much alive. Maybe some paper did that with Mandela in the 1980s and some people saw the story and never saw the correction. Or in the case of the Bernstein vs Barenstein Bears someone probably wrote an article on the Bernstein Bears and then had to correct it.

The point being when the media does that large groups of people get the story wrong through no fault of their own. It's just part of being human. No conspiracy, it's just fascinating the stuff that gets mistaken.

I think this constant shill-calling of everybody over anything is pretty annoying.

Seaman is certainly no researcher and is sloppy, lazy and not very exact when it comes to facts (many reporters are like that).

But AFAIK a "shill" is defined as somebody who intentionally misleads.

A typical example would be Jack White who (successfully) derailed JFK researchers into looking into fuzzy images while there was tons of excellent other evidence available (autopsy, witness statements, etc.), he also discredited the whole community by pushing the "moon hoax".

I don't see how Seaman is doing any thing like that.

• He generally puts the focus where it hurts (Pegasus museum, etc) even though he tends to get details wrong (image metadata)
• He does not push crazy nonsense like the "moon hoax", on the contrary, he explained how such disinfo campaigns work by using the "flat earth" as an example
• He was on pizzagate pretty much from the beginning

So yeah, he has his problems, but I fail to see how he is a shill.

Haha voat's shill army strikes again!

Alex Jones is praised, Joe Schmo says it and he's a dirty shill.

I'm not a huge fan of Seaman (LOL) but just because he talks about some topics that aren't exactly mainstream doesn't make him a shill.

Member when this community recognized pizzagate is occultist? I member.

Can't wait for his new oneliner "The Mandela Effect IS REAL."

Seaman became an overnight sensation after he allegedly was banned/fired from HuffPo for writing an article about how sick HRC was http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/08/29/huffpo-terminates-contributor-deletes-articles-after-he-questions-hillarys-health/ After that, he made a video saying he was fearing for his life and that's how he became a sensation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHhNr5jeTIw&t=160s The way things happened always seemed contrived to me but you never know.

Yes, he has always pimped for $$$.

Mr. Semen blew his load.

Oh boy, he's one step removed from doing top 5 lists.

People can have lots of opinions on lots of things... different ideas that you on one subject does not negate another.

The fact that he is taunting and harassing podesta and others on twitter is another red flag for me. that's just plain stupid. he's clearly under the direction of someone else.

Doesn't this exactly follow that gov doc of how to discredit groups? I use to have the link somewhere...

Why even talk about this? It been dubunked over and over just like flat earth. Idiot

I only learned of David Seamans once I found out about Pizzagate. Was he acting strange like this before Pizzagate came out? Did he go on rants telling people off on Twitter all day and piss everyone off like yesterday? Did he constantly bring up money?

::Clearing My Throat: Been trying to elude to this for quite some time

Just wondering if anyone saw the Podesta emails that talked about alien life forms and zero point technology. There is freaky, proven stuff afoot. I'm not sure talking about it makes someone a shill. I see no one making fun of Alex Jones for any of the crazy shit he does, yet he, not David, is emerging as the face of pizzagate. He's one of the biggest channels in media. Where's the scrutiny?

I didn't watch his video because I'm not interested in it. But I disagree with the premise here that seems based on the belief that David has some supreme ability to hurt the cause by his affiliation with pizzagate. It's Alex you should be worried about. Fuck.

like someone said i tuned out once i saw him pushing gold he did a good job tho cheers

I told you guys he was bullshit 3 months ago. My first red flag was his gold selling. Then the fact that all videos dance around exposing anything new. He's just in it for the clicks.

He made good job bringing publicity for PG, but after this aliens and Mandela effect shit it's time to click unfollow. No hard feelings, David.

Futile zionist attempt at muddying the waters. Puppets abound. Somebody should make a compilation piece on his changing stories (trying to appeal to the 'fringe') and the timeline relative to when relevant info is posted. Sort of like a Sandy Hoax Allstars, but only with Seaman's b.s. and the Benny Hill theme song.

Yep! I gave him the benefit of the doubt until now. That's it. Pull the rug out from under him