Mommyplayer571

Seems everyone is blackmailing everyone else in an international game of blackmail chicken. I'm hoping Trump went rogue from his handlers and trying to drain every bit of the swamp he can. Here is a hopeful spin on Trump, that Iran is a ruse. http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/111074216#p111076436

Mommyplayer571

That exact picture is what Tzipi Mazuz tweeted about HRC and WJC and implied they killed her. So this Hagman is in with the Tzipi Mazuz plot. Lately I think she was really just a threat to US to give settlement rights or else reveal xyz. They also wanted to get Trump elected. Since Trump is not playing along with Bibi they went dark. At least that's what I am thinking now. But that pic was shown by Tzipi 2-3 months ago.

Blondmyth

Hagmann explicitly says he didn't need to put tape on the image. "Actually, I could take the tape off and it wouldn't mean anything, it would be fine"

If you're accusing him of lying about the source of the image being Weiner's laptop then please go ahead and cite your proof.

ThePuppetShow

I've thought about this since it happened and I would think if he's lying, Weiner and Huma have a huge slander lawsuit coming. Actually, I think it would be filed already. Where are the lawsuits? Doesn't it seem like they would have jumped right on that and it would be all over the news?

DL4L

Nothing bad can happen to the Truth

Nana66

Were there any high profile suicides this weekend?

Mommyplayer571

They kidnapped a 2 year old during the super bowl.

The_Invincible_Moose

Alex Jones is the worst thing that can happen to the truth.

Wrong. The MSM empowered by Soros and the left is the worst thing that can happen to the truth.

JastheMace

Got that right, Alex Jones is a shill. He used to live in John Stadtmiller's house when he was on RBN. John owns the station if you guys don't know, great truther radio station you can listen to online! If you have never been to his site http://republicbroadcasting.org/

Sneakychalupa

Alex Jones has been calling things out before they happened for 20 years, bro. You're extremely misinformed or extremely biased. Judging from Jones' appearance and mannerisms, he comes across like an eccentric doofus, but that's what happens when you're too redpilled and too woke. Watch the Joe Rogan podcast with him, the guy is an information tank, he nearly has a seizure just trying to figure out which redpill to throw out next. He woke up 1.4 million people and counting on Rogan's podcast.

JastheMace

Look into William Cooper, he called out Alex back in the early 90's. John Stadtmiller gave Alex his start, Alex used to live in his house and John has talked about him on his radio program, I am highly informed on Alex Jones. Have you seen the 2nd amendment rally in Austin where Alex walks up with his camera crew and handful of guys with the megaphone and they film it to seem like he created the whole thing. The people at the top of the steps with the microphone kept saying, "Alex, come up here and use the microphone....Why are you trying to shout us down? Come up and use the PA system....Alex" He then reported on his show that it was his organized rally and that he got attacked there. You can trust him if you want, it's a free country isn't it?

fartyshorts

It's up to 2.15 million on YouTube and many more on iTunes. It's beautiful. :)

we_kill_creativity

How does living in that person's house make you a shill?

JastheMace

It makes John have tons of personal knowledge about Alex that he has covered on his radio show.

rippingtheveil

doug hagmann is the man

FartOnYou

Wow are you a shill trying to false flag by saying he is a false flag? Nice try psyop shill. Tell soros we said hi

JastheMace

No, he is correct, Alex is a shill bought and paid for and just lost his house to his now ex, Jewish wife. If Drudge promotes him, pretty much means he is a shill.

Celticgirlonamission

What does the fact that his wife is jewish have to do with this? Just asking for my own benefit..

Scirel

This might have been the case a year or two back, but no longer. Trump would not have won without Alex Jones. They guy gets 40 million views a week, and got 80 million during the election season. The tide is shifting away from MSM big time. I trust The Enquirer before I trust CNN. Jones' credibility is way way higher than any MSM outfit by now, which is why I said he needs to get way more familiar with the facts of the case - it was a show of respect.

But what is going on here with my fellow Voat citizen investigators will even become the de facto media in a few years and end up replacing even Jones down the road, and I would think he might even enjoy that. The stuff that y'all uncover continues to AMAZE me. The NY Times has got nuthin' on you guys!

The internet hasn't even begun to make its real impact yet. My guess is that within a couple years you are going to start seeing serious talk about doing away with Washington D.C. altogether and resorting back to the original organization of a loose federation of states (and it might even get to the county level). But I'm getting ahead of myself...

MONOLITHicide

I agree. But i would say Dr. Michael Savage is the true reason behind President Trump.

AugustaJulia

With this and cell phones that take pictures and videos, we have the most efficient "army" of citizen jounalists and chroniclers that cover the entire world.

HolyMoly0

Jones never said there's definitely nothing going on at the restaurant. He admits it's a fishy place. He even had Rogan look at a Majestic Ape clip, among other things.

He doesn't want to be blamed for the gunman story (they did start publicly blaming him immediately, after all), or more importantly, for future violence. So he says Pizzagate is ultimately about the massive government pedoring--and he's correct. Nothing wrong with that.

Also, even if CPP is involved, it's still 100% true that the MSM used it as a distraction to discredit the investigation. " Alt-Right Targets Innocent Little Pizza Shop " is a way more laughable headline than " Thousands of Independent Online Investigators Suddenly Believe They've Found Evidence of Possible Pedophilia Ring in High Levels of Government, And Here's Why! "

Freemasonsrus

You guys can go back (before election I believe) and listen to Hagman shows where he had on Britney Pettibone discussing all of the PG stuff. She did great. He also has had on the guy who owned/sold Curves (name escapes me) who is a pilot and he has gone down to Haiti several times on his own dime to deliver food for those effected by hurricane. He describes the scenes there and how sad it is. He would actually be a good resource for George Webb.

TrendyCantina

And i called bullshit at the time. I still do. In the video linked above, Biggs says "and I'm raising a family, so maybe it was a good thing" meaning his family was not the reason he was demoted, he only mentioned it in hindsight.

Celticgirlonamission

Biggs wife is having a baby..so he is staying at home to work on projects there at the house, and to help with child care...to live in Austin, pay child care and a mortgage on a house that is hugely over priced, commuting hours in Austin traffic that sucks, just makes the most sense to do most work from home office.

Scirel

So here is a breakdown of a few "new" tidbits from Hagmann:

  1. There have been intense fights, both verbal and (apparently) physical between the NYPD and FBI regarding if, how, and when to pursue the leads they got from Weiner's "laptop." Comey was caught in the middle of this and this is why he did what he did during the campaign. Trump know about this and this is why he kept Comey on. But now Preet Bharara (US Atty, NY Southern District) feels like now that Trump is in he feels free to move forward with indictments.
  2. They not only seized a laptop, but other devices, including a desktop, thumb drives, and a modem, which had incriminating info on them.
  3. Good moral people in the Department have made backups of all the info to guard against power player shenanigans.
  4. At least 30 agencies throughout the country are involved in investigations.
  5. The operating players and principles have a lot of overlap with the anti-Trump, push for Sharia invasions, Black Lives Matter, and the like. So it is all part of the larger globalist agenda.

Other than that, not much new in the area of actual crimes or greater details. But the fact that Hagmann is clear about the reality of investigations moving forward with the intention to bring actual prosecutions is pretty major. You kind of need to listen to Hagmann's interspersed comments to get his best info since Alex tends to talk over him in his alpha tone.

But even then, Alex sounds like he really wants to "own" this story, which is kind of huge in itself (perhaps he sees it as his way to become as big as Drudge who made his name by covering the Lewinsky scandal??? Just thinking out loud here). But sure Alex, you can have it, even though the reality is this one is "owned" by We the People and the good citizen investigators who have been daily visiting and contributing to, e.g., this Voat forum. And, yeah, I love you brother Alex, but if you want to own this story, at least get your FACTS straight! Because right now you are scrambled all over the place on that front. With that said, move forward with our blessings a prayers!

GeorgeT

After 5 hours of investigation over the past 3 months, on top of 16 years of research I came away with this conclusion - here is what is going to happened and why. As Doug has pointed out, pedophilia, snuff, Organ Harvesting, Stem Cell Research & CP operates on an industrial scale. Roughly 1.2 million children go missing on a yearly basis. Major suppliers of the trade are in fact Black Op CIA and other Alphabet agencies that camoflage themselves behind varius fronts (pizza shops is one of them). These Black Ops work behalf of the real power players behind the shadows who may or may not be into all of the above - they are definately into their maniacal search for the elixir of youth so Organ harvesting and tissue harvesting is big on the agenda. Regarding the recent scandal - according to former CIA operative Robert Steele, it was the first time ever when pedophile network was compromised through leaked emails. In light of what I know, I believe that arrests will happen, when exactly is unclear but the reason why it will happen is thus: - The powers that be (the global elite and their Black Ops) are enraged of the slopiness exercised by the likes of Podestas and Alifantis. We have to realize that in a larger picture Podestas are the small players despite what alt media has built them up to be and as such they are expendable! These 'small bit' players wil be made example of, as a warning to others who are involved in the same business of horrors (to them it's normal). The Big Bosses are afraid that citizen journalists will be goaded to further probe the rabbit hole and uncover something that would jeapordise the whole 'Global Currency' as Doug called it on Alex Jones show. So, they will give citizen journalists what they want - another Nuremberg Trial with the familiar names that are actually several tiers down the Pyramid of corruption. But they will give us what we want, fooling us into thinking that the good has won and pedophilia has been wiped off the earth. Trump will be hailed as Captain America, 2020 re-election guaranteed. He will be deified by the public and may I dare say - the World. From them on, Donald will become immune to anything he does or says, even if it means advancing the NWO agenda. Pizza-pedogate investigation will finally come to an end (to the great relief of the powe players) and everything will go back to the way it was. Citizen journalists will celebrate our victory and go back to our daily chores, knowing that we brought justice and made world a safe place - FAR FROM IT! The power players will recruit new agents, prop up new foundations, new initiatives 'for children' with BRAND NEW PEDOPHILE CODES, with explicit instructions on how to operate in secrecy and why it is a bad idea to mock public by displaying pedophile art at a pizza parlor for everyone to see or why not to put instagram creepy photos of children on public domain. And the business as usual.

DeathToMasons

Alex is a gatekeeper, so this talking about him as if he is legit is off putting. However, gatekeepers reveal a lot of truth. It seems he is with Stratfor, so if they are ok with him covering the story now because they have a feud with the CIA or some others involved, then Alex would be ok to proceed. But Stratfor is a joke of an inteligence agency, so these things are hard to read. Either way, I hope this is all true. But I won't believe anything will happen until I actually see it. Seems so unlikely because the Masons and their criminal syndicate have been getting away with this for ages. All the sudden white hats are everywhere on the inside and have enough power to stop them? That would mean this whole thing with Trump not being an insider is real. Fingers crossed.

Catsfive

How can a modem have incriminating info on it?

The_Invincible_Moose

I read somewhere back in November that the modem in their house had stored IP addresses from Saudi Arabia which would be valuable in tracing Huma Abedin's communications. I think she's ultimately going to be tried for treason as a spy.

damnmedia

Modems these days are basically full-fledged computers. Relevant email addresses, IP addresses, phone numbers, etc, quite possibly might still be in the recieve/transmit buffers, memory caches, or internal system logs.

Catsfive

Interesting.I did not know this at ALL. You mean, like, if someone "stole" my home modem, they could learn valuable info from me?

virtuous_pedophobe

I'm tired of promises.

sensitive

PLS help: listening to the video on Ron Gibson but can't find AJ talking to Hagman. Which minute in is it appr.?

Thrulkggls

live right now

sensitive

Thanks! Internet connection too slow (again). May have to wait for Gibson after all.

TRUTHWARRIOR

I wouldnt get too excited about this ppl. Wait for something formal to be released from fbi or nypd.

Yates

What's the sauce on Hagmann? How is he an insider?

beepinboopin

This is amazing to hear! How is he able to talk about this right now?

acme2011

Doug and Alex basically discuss what Voat already knows and confirms many of our ideas about recent arrests and such - Trump and co. are posturing for the right time to attack, etc. Sessions coming in should get dominoes rolling.

Scirel

True. But now 40 million more people are getting awakened to the facts!

PepeDidNothingWrong

Gotta admit, this is more interesting than I originally gave credit.

PepeDidNothingWrong

I want to believe. But AJ comes across as a shill to me, sorry.

we_kill_creativity

Why does he come across as a shill to you?

PepeDidNothingWrong

When I tuned into the stream, I caught him in the middle of a commercial. Lingering impressions. The show got better after that.

we_kill_creativity

Well of course he has commercials. Why do people say that like it's a bad thing? Like it's suspicious or something? I've never understood this. Every radio person has commercials.

IPleadThe2nd

He has a massive audience and good guests so even if that's how you feel, it's still a big platform to spread the message and wake people up to this. He also just said that he hates the name pizzagate because it is a massive problem that is much larger than one pizza place.

2impendingdoom

and watergate was a bigger problem than an office building. But just like pizza, the pedos are everywhere and world wide.

lude

This.. The name isn't that important

IPleadThe2nd

Yes! Excellent point.

2impendingdoom

I actually like the name pizzagate because pizza is so ubiquitous, its the standby meal parents serve when they don't have time to cook (not neglectfully per se, but innocently busy and not paying attention), and it comes to the house by a stranger or someone familiar, nobody has burgers or tacos delivered. All of a sudden a common object/comfort food represents an element of danger or suspicion that has nothing to do with nutrition.

IPleadThe2nd

Good analogy!

privatepizza

Listening now, thanks for this ! He's off to discuss Pizzagate, said that YouTube would certainly block the episode, however it'll still be NO1. Exciting times.

GeorgeT

I listened to Hagmann. Eric Prince - founder of Blackwater also was on the radio discussing that very same thing. Basically since October, there has been a war going on between white hat agents and the ones who have sold out. Wonder how will James Comey handle the case.

JastheMace

....but....Comey 'is' a sell out. He was on the board of directors at HSBC bank when they all got caught laundering drug money for the cartels (Wells Fargo, Bank of America and Whacovia) He got a sweet heart deal fro NY AG Loretta Lynch for no jail time and a small fine. He then goes on to head the FBI, she goes on to United States AG, that's why Comey listed all the laws Hillary broke but wouldn't recommend charges, he is totally bought and paid for.

2impendingdoom

comey could play this right and become a national hero like we've never had.

Scirel

Yes I remember that.

However, someone called into a podcast that Owen Shroyer was doing and made an interesting suggestion that this might (and a big emphasis on might) have been a picture of a grown-up Madeleine McCann. Very intriguing suggestion I thought.

unkyshaun

I hate to break it to you but i would be 95% certain Maddie is dead. When will people realise AJ is controlled opposition?? I asked David Shurter, victim of SRA. He has had personal contact with AJ and he doesn't give two fucks about victims, i assure you. David has as much if not more insight than anyone on voat.

we_kill_creativity

Why do you think he's controlled opposition?

unkyshaun

My detailed reply disappeared. Can't be fucked typing it again. The fact it disappeared speaks volumes though. A ritual abuse survivor i asked about him confirmed he isn't genuine. The person asked him for help and he was a total prick to put it mildly. Why??

JastheMace

Listen to John Stadtmiller, he gave Alex his start and has outed him many times on his radio show, The National Intel report. As John says,"Alex is all about Alex"

atheist4thecause

They are about to get to the trafficking stuff, but I wouldn't expect anything too groundbreaking or you'll probably be disappointed.

IPleadThe2nd

But with Alex reaching such a large audience this will likely bring new info to a lot of people and hopefully bring them in to the fold.

atheist4thecause

Most Alex Jones listeners are already well aware of it, but yeah, there may be some new people brought in that just found his site. I'm just saying that you shouldn't expect any groundbreaking information.

juhos

You think they should use real cp or what?

fetuspizza

The talk is about to begin (11:11am PST)

srayzie

There is also the Infowars iPhone app if you guys want to listen by iPhone. I'm listening Live right now

IPleadThe2nd

Alex just announced that when Doug Hagman comes on shortly they will be opening the phones to take pizzagate calls! Someone well versed in this should get ready to call in!!!

Thrulkggls

disappointed that he bailed on the calls...could have been really interesting to get an informed researcher from Voat on the topic...

srayzie

I've listened to the podcasts. Awesome https://www.hagmannandhagmann.com

IlluminatiKing

If recent fbianon is right, this stuff might not be public. We will need to spread the news out there and "demand" the MSM to cover it if it is the real deal.

crystalclearme

I agree with @wolftrail7272 and you. I don't really think we are all crazy with the number of coincidences occurring right now. Do our part to bring sex trafficking and human trafficking into dialogue and news stream now.

Hazilla

When is he on?

IPleadThe2nd

He's supposed to be on next. Alex seems to have moved him back a little to play some of trumps speech today.

fred34285

Calls for a few minutes and then he should be on in 15m per REAL ALEX JONES.

Blacksmith21

Hagmann, from what I can tell, is tied tightly into Flynn and Prince. I think he has a solid line on intelligence.

GeorgeT

He has seen the files, he said that grown men broke down what they saw. It's bad. Anthony Weiner I guess could not resist perving at them every night.

Blacksmith21

I hope they handled Weiner's laptop with blue gloves.

Don-Keyhote

Blue light

Wolftrail7272

Wonder if maybe the FBI wants info leaked out in bits at a time so when the big arrests go down people can google about them and will understand they weren't baseless.

Fire_Fly

Yep from a communications perspective that makes sense. Only a little bit at a time to the public because they're going to be so shocked. Some probably won't believe or be able to comprehend it.

Wolftrail7272

I also believe that some of us will be recruited by the FBI once we finish dumping all our info. If they recruited while research was still being done and dumped, there might be hang-ups in being able to leak as freely as we are. I have a few reasons to suspect this.

justforthissubverse

I can see that. Think about it. We are all immersed and in the know. But the average American? This will be a bombshell to them. And their first reaction will be DENIAL.

Monkstar1

I was working with a documentary producer that has a new doc about human trafficking in India. I asked if she'd ever heard of pizzagate and she asked 'what's that?'. I tried to explain as best I could be we were in the middle of editing (another doc) and the expressionless look on her face didn't look promising.

DeathToMasons

I gave up on that and just enjoy being superior to them now. They live in a childs fantasyland and I deal with reality. Diminishes my respect for them actually. But some people take longers to break their programing than others.

ki-yoshi

The whole 'anti-fascist' positioning of western governments and media makes sense from that position. They want him to look like he's making himself a dictator...first step being to arrest his opposition. (in the mind of the liberal of course he has already done dozens of things towards that goal, although they are unable to name a single one - the power of propaganda)

FAKENEWSITARD2

I tried red pilling lifelong friends this past weekend, the incredulous stares and denials were unbelievable, their world is about to be flipped 180 degrees from lifelong MSM propaganda and disinformation..

Coloradical2

I told a co-worker about pizzagate. She is in total denial. It absolutely cannot be true. I was a little shocked at the way she reacted. She didn't want to hear about it and told me I was reading fake news. She reads USA Today and they send her alerts when there's a breaking story, lol. Some people just don't want to wake up.

BlackSwordsman

The "little bites" thing is a win. I did this without really knowing I was doing it. I started by showing everyone I know the sick art the Podesta brothers have on their walls, and since have been asking people what they think the coded emails mean. It's always important to get people on board first that they are reading coded messages. it's very obvious. The art and coded emails together is enough to get most sane people to at least raise an eyebrow in doubt.

justforthissubverse

You have to give them little bites. "Hey remember that Dennis Hastert guy who was speaker of the house? Yeah, the one who got convicted of molesting kids, that guy. Turns out he's really good friends with Tony Podesta and even went on a trip to Japan with him to "educate" kids". - That one works really well for those folks who think it's all about bashing Hillary. Don't even bring up Pizzagate though or you'll get the condescending remarks as you well know. Give 'em a little bite and let it sink in a bit.