I never claimed to be virtuous, and I have led a fairly worldly life in the past. YOU make assumptions based on your small minded views of people who have come to love God. Once again, read it for yourself, it will help you to change your Ways too.

You're even more deluded than I first thought if you think you can contribute to an intelligent conversation! So once again, fuck off and go perv out elsewhere!

I'm done dealing with pedos and deviants! Fuck off freak

All our rights are GOD GIVEN whether you want to acknowledge that or not! And who do you think you are lecturing me about rights you eurotrash fuckwit? Are you even "allowed" to have a steak knife or a tea kettle where you live? LMFAO what a joke you are! I have ZERO obsession about my children's sexual development, but it seems to be of HUGE importance to you for some odd reason despite saying you aren't a pedophole!

What else is odd is that I have never met a person who said their life was ruined because they had a happy, stable childhood with loving parents, but I have met a whole lot of drug addicts and prostitutes who were exposed to sex way too young. But hey, you seem like a person who has all of the answers and zero mental health issues right?! My children will be allowed to develop normally and at their pace since I am a normal parent who was not fucked up as a kid like it seems you were.

When you knock up some street walking crack head feel free to raise your little bastard however you see fit, but you can take your pedo style ideas about child rearing and fuck off.

Oh, but please pick up a bible and read it for yourself if you're so interested in hearing from God. It's been real fun but I'm beginning to tire from your monotonous repetitions.

I have parental rights that come from GOD and not the government. The government is tasked with upholding my God given right. I don't know what kind of "right" you think you have to my kids, or anyone else's kids, but if a pedo like you comes near my kids it will be the last thing you do! Get lost loser!

Do you have any idea how stupid you sound? I don't have any rights? To my own fucking kids? What a joke! It's called parental rights fucktard and that allows me to decide what my kids are taught and how they are raised! Don't like it? Too FUCKING BAD!

And really, you need help if an anonymous stranger on the internet can have so much power over your emotions!

I was just curious as to why you recommend early 20's.

Statistically, people start to have sex in their early 20s

This chart would suggest otherwise (unless India and china are skewing the stats over population). Most 'western' countries on this list are ~18, with Scandinavian countries being notably lower.

Thanks!

And I'm a single female who's always been indifferent to having children, but this has absolutely crushed my soul as well. However, I have found the light. Before PG I was agnostic, but now I try to pray every night for God to bring justice to these disgusting creatures. If this has taught me anything it's that for this kind of evil to exist, it's opposite must exist as well. The truly sick part is that my Grandpa was a Lutheran minister, I was raised in the church and was always really spiritual until I went to college. Thanks to my college education/indoctrination I was skeptical that a higher being existed at all, however now I know and I will NEVER forget.

its evil and its a disgrace people arent aware of it

Bullshit accusation: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/chatterbox/2005/09/lindsey_grahams_smear.html&ved=0ahUKEwib4obLm_7RAhULhlQKHWx7BokQFggaMAA&usg=AFQjCNHb-Y7I7epGxmeyieo5XXSdGSbAMw&sig2=BstwFaghJvYVjRPfwjHjVw

Not surprised the Trump-slurping idiots here gobbled it up.

I am a sex educator who recommends that young people should wait until they are in their early 20s to have sex.

Care to expand on this?

It says "6" from his side of the table.

Hi. This is incorrect. All this came out during her confirmation hearings. When people heard what this was about, she was confirmed 96-3.

The paper she was writing had nothing to do with changing the age of consent in the United States. The paper she was writing was about creating gender neutral language. The way rape laws were defined back then you could argue that men or boys couldn't be raped because of the language used. The part of the paper that talks about lowerin the age of consent IS A QUOTE from a proposed Romeo and Juliet law and Ginsberg only addresses the issue of gender in the quote, not the age issue.

The quote was from " a draft Senate bill that never became law." Again she praises the use of language in this bill. She does not advocate for the bill. Secondly, the bill seems to be about age of consent among teenagers not someone of 18 and a minor. Do we prosecute a 15 year old for sleeping with his 15 year old gf type of deal. AKA a Romeo and Juliet law.

You can see this article from a supporter of ginsberg for more http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/chatterbox/2005/09/lindsey_grahams_smear.html

And this article from an opponent of ginsberg It Looks Like Justice Ginsburg Likely Was the Victim of a Drafting Error

But the careful reader — which I, unfortunately, was not (especially in my more recent post on the subject here) — should have realized that the report was likely intending to recommend replacing the "carnal knowledge" ban not with a flat age of consent of 12 (what the text said) but rather with a graduated Romeo-and-Juliet age of consent that would have been set at 16 for adults (what the §1633 that the text cited said).

there is absolutely no place in todays society for any of this shit

Absolutely true in every way! It's time to put a stop to this.

Absolutely true! Evil seems tohave been slowly taking over, but it feels hopeful right now seeing how many people are breaking the conditioning and becoming aware of all of this.

the damn 70s

Well you're a good human with a good soul!

You say my wording was ludicrous, but I'm not sure of your argument for that. Is rape always a semantic thing? Theoretically, if liberals control a jurisdiction and make the age of consent 2 years old, then it's not rape if they have sex with toddlers? Or is 12 the right age in your opinion and anything younger than that is rape that transcends their little statutes?

ALL parents need to have your attitude and remain vigilant and pissed as hell! Any pedo needs to be taken out immediately by the parents of the child the pedo harmed. And yes, being a pedo harms children! Their bodies, emotions, cognitive capacities, and soul are not ready for sex until much much later. It makes me sick to type this but if any pedo comes near my kid it will be the last thing they fucking do!

What a pathetic gathering of unscrupulous degenerates the Clintons and their Masonic bretheren are. And these sub-humans are infested in our system and basically run everything. The Rubicon was crossed long ago and we continue to do nothing. But you have to recognize it is reality before you can resist it. Keep waking people up. Good job OP.

Um no! As a parent it is withing my FUCKING RIGHT to tell my kids they are not having sex until they are grown! You sound like a perv who was likely diddled by dad or moms boufroend at a young age. Get some help for that and you apparent anger issues!

It all fits together like a puzzle. Now I understand...

Not so.

"Some notable attempts to promote pedophilia"

• 1998, The Rind Study: severely flawed study that claimed boys aren't harmed by sexual abuse like girls are. IIRC, authors happened to be editors for Dutch pedophile journal Paidika. [Edit: Wikipedia says two of the authors were published in Paidika].

• "Harmful to Minors," 2002, a book celebrated by liberals. About how Americans are so "close-minded" about sex, and that teens have sexual relations with adults can be positive.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1535361

It was not a ludicrous title, it was true: since a 12-year-old can't really consent to sexual intercourse being so young and immature, lowering the age of consent to 12 is in effect legalizing rape of 12-year-olds. Try to keep up.

Did you actually just say, "age of consent for rape?"

That is quite possibly the most absurd phrase I've heard in this forum, and that is saying a lot.

You're missing the point. What OP is saying is they yes, they wanted to lower the age of consent, but that given the low age, it in effect us legalizing rape if 12-year-olds since they really are too young to consent regardless of the law. Since you missed that.

Citing Alfred Kinsey makes me puke. He was a known pedo. Period. I will have a party when ole Ruthie takes her last nap. She's an enemy of any sort of moral values within our society. She is the Margaret Sanger of our time. http://www.wnd.com/2012/12/abortion-eugenics-and-ruth-bader-ginsburg/

Quote from article linked: In a 2009 interview for the New York Times Magazine, Ginsburg said the following: “Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”

Yes of course.

even little kids are kids. college (university students) are kids, its a very general broad term. Teens is a marketing or scholastic word.

maybe that's a US thing, its word kid applies to children of any age...parents will refer to their 30 year old children as kids...

Well if Megan Fox is a dude then men are clearly the marketing force behind dazzling women aren't they.

But I'm just sayin the feminist in you is leaking. Marketing is the perversion though and they shouldn't be able to target sexuality in any respect. Unless they're in the business of selling brain crack in which case it's all good since they have a mandate to seek profit that's above question.

But then you wouldn't have your feminism to blame men for either. Because there'd be more substance demanded of people than that weak minded bullshit which would have been met with hammers.

That's partly right. I mean, Megan Fox is a dude.

So it sounds like you understand why you're telling them to wait until they're middle aged. To help keep them susceptible to marketing. While they're made fat, ugly and stupid off the shit they're sold.

Reread your post and substitute 'men' for 'feminism' as an evolutionary exercise in you personal development.

If you are taking that attitude with you to your classes than you're a monster.

Its why she is so old but will not die

right, because what young girl or young boy doesn't want to fit in and be accepted by the big kids? They are so vulnerable and impressionable and wanting to be treated as an adult is part of the process of becoming one, so getting raped or abused for that, at that age, is doubly traumatizing. (As opposed to getting raped or abused as an adult, not that in any way I am advocating for rape of adults. )

You want to fuck him SO bad.

And by pornified you mean the way marketing targets their sexuality right? Somewhat predatory in nature and effect.

To the TOP with this find. This find needs to be spread like wildfire.

Hey, Ginsburg! Do you also believe that 12 year olds should be allowed to have driver's licenses and vote? How about we allow credit cards in their name, too?

What's that you say? Their brains aren't developed enough for THOSE kinds of decisions and responsibilities. Just "consenting" to sex, you say.

Ginsburg and everyone who supports her "12 should be legal age of consent" crap need to be strung up.

Jesus. More hobgoblins just keep scrambling up out of the pit. These people need to be exposed for the filth that they are.

Wow, that article was a real eye opener. They probably are in a hurry to legalize pedophilia before we find out how many of them are child rapers.

It is time for a French style revolution, off with their heads!

Notice how there was no link to the 1977 paper they cite? There's your first clue that this might not be a quality article full of true revelations. C'mon people, be better than this. This is Voat, not Reddit - demand evidence to back up claims.

Didn't CIAnon give out initials of two government members that would soon be charged with trafficking or pedophilia? Iirc, the first were CS (Chuck Shumer) TK (Tim Kaine) and RB (people assumed it was Richard Blumenthal) but maybe they were wrong and it is Ruth Bader instead. I mean the initials fit? Just a thought.

The Muslims even have worked out some convenient "divorce-like" stuff, for when the child gets too old.

Please, I'd like to vomit now. I wish all the straights who who worship gay men, only discovered they're fun ( they are fun) in middle age, could have a " weekend retreat", gays be honest, and these simpleton straights get a giant red pill heart attack. Yes they really do mean to normalize pederasty and ebophilia, and they could give two shits about babies. Because they cry and poop and get on their nerves. Do they have a conscience about that? Ask them. They'd probably say "Pervert out, just don't mess up the upholstery". OF COURSE not all gays. But we're not talking about the good people here, gay straight or otherwise. Mr. Gay Big Deal WILL have his 16 year old boyfriend and there's nothing you can do about it.

Does anyone have the PDF of the actual book? The only thing I found isn't the professional print, which is out of print, so new copies are available unavailable

I did find a PDF with page citations for the arguments to: - lower the age of consent to 12(p102) - legalized bigamy (p195-196) - government must provide comprehensive child care (p214) - integrated sex prisons (p100-101, 216) - integrated fraternity and sorority (p169) - integrated boy and girl scouts (p145-146, 219-220) - mother's and father's days must be same day (p146) - remove wife and widow benefits from social security (p206)

Basically everything she proposed was an attack on traditional family values. What kids are most vulnerable to grooming and sexual abuse? Those without strong families and a positive home life, which builds confidence and serves as a barrier to pedos in community outreach programs sinking their claws in.

So does she directly support pedophilia? Not that you can see, but a smart person wouldn't come out and admit such, they would instead push policies that slide us in that direction with normalization tactics.

It wouldn't legalize non-consensual sex with 12 year olds.

I'm curious if anyone has checked the finances/financials of each of the political far left, globalization & Soros puppets at or around the time of the Haiti earthquake?

We all know organs and stem cells are big business. "The big profits go to the middle men and "organ brokers" according to article below.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/reading-between-the-headlines/201311/body-snatchers-organ-harvesting-profit

"There's a black market for hearts, lungs, and livers, but the kidney is the most sought after. According to the World Health Organization, approximately 7,000 kidneys are illegally harvested annually by traffickers worldwide and the prices vary widely by country.

The average buyer spends $150,000 (though prices in excess of $200,000 are common) while the average donor gets $5,000. The big profits go the the middle men and “organ brokers”. In the US 98,463 individuals are waiting for a kidney as of October 25, 2013. Of those, about half will die before they receive one.

The profits are huge, and money is a temptation many brokers and doctors just cannot resist. In 2010 WHO estimated about 11,000 organs were obtained on the black market. WHO also claims that an organ is sold every hour of every day, 365/7".

Ruth Bader will die one morning on the bench and everyone will leave her there thinking she's asleep.

Great post and I concur. Add to your thinking development and maturing of the adolescent prefrontal cortex is not complete in many until early to mid 20s!!

Thanks for that information, I will spread that far and wide.

We're so progressive in Cancuck that we are allowed to fuck our pets now.

this was sarcasm, but its literally a true statement.

Not a surprise. the pedophiles have their own support networks. This is how they protect themselves, by getting someone when they are young and impressionable, telling them that morality is bullshit, show they can get away with anything, offer a jump start into their career via the network connections, and invite them into the fold. none can out the others because they maintain blackmail leverage over each other. It is mutually assured destruction. And if the person doesn't want to go along, they are either killed or the network uses connections to discredit or Institutionalize them.

We need to use a fine tooth comb to find this stuff. Looking at the appointments under ghw bush and Clinton would be a good place to start. how many judges were skull and bones or quill and dagger or scroll and key? Then find their early legal judgements or arguments if they are still accessible. You don't develop these positions and then suddenly change, they may change their public position, to conceal themselves from casual scrutiny, but as Hillary's speeches demonstrate, a public statement of values often differs from their privately held beliefs.

FTA: "Pedophiles are not generally violent, if there is such thing as pedophiles at all," Levin wrote. "More important, sexual contact with a child does not a pedophile make."

NAMBLA Director David Thorstad claims: "Pederasty, like homosexuality, has existed, and exists, in all societies that have ever been studied. Homoeroticism is a ubiquitous feature of human experience, as even efforts to repress it confirm. Men and youths have always been attracted to each other, and, like homosexuality in general, their love is irrepressible ."

Italics mine.

I did not know this. Thanks for link!

Am I missing something here? Where's the link for Ms. Ginsburg advocating this? Also where are you getting that Podesta advised Clinton to select Ruth Bader Ginsburg? Is it an assumption? Not saying you're wrong, but I would like a link to her advocating this and maybe an article stating that was Podesta was Bill Clinton's advisor. Thanks.

She did not call for legalizing rape, or for lowering the age of consent to 12. It's incredible how you guys believe everything you read.

In an opinion on sex bias in laws, she quoted a bill (that was never passed) as an example of sex-neutral language in rape law, i.e., not defining rape as something a male does to a female, but that one person does to another. That bill that she quoted included a line about "under 12 years old", it was not her suggestion or anything of the sort. She was only quoting it as an example of sex-neutral language. She was not in any way, shape, or form addressing what the age of consent should be.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/chatterbox/2005/09/lindsey_grahams_smear.html

Science. You can do "studies" and determine that there are no harmful effects. :(

fuuuuuuk

This is totally reasonable behavior. We have always been at war with 12-year-olds. Move along, citizen.

"When U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg was an attorney for the ACLU, she co-authored a report recommending that the age of consent for sexual acts be lowered to 12 years of age," the article points out.

::violently throws up::

Well, I read this and your statement seems to be true. The laugh is that the Catholic Family Assoc. of America calls her a potential pedophelia advocate. The last ones to be pointing fingers when it comes to rape of children. An interesting fact about RBG is that she was a friend of Antonin Scalia. They shared many dinners and operas together. Strange.

..."Pedophiles are not generally violent, if there is such thing as pedophiles at all," Levin wrote. "More important, sexual contact with a child does not a pedophile make."

After a flurry of controversy ensued, the University of Minnesota Press issued a press release defending its publication of the work.

"Neither the University Press nor the University of Minnesota endorses the theses of authors it publishes, including that of Ms. Levine. In fact, some within the university may vehemently disagree," said Christine Maziar, vice president for research and dean of the graduate school in the release. "University presses by their nature will publish work on controversial subjects; it's our responsibility to ensure that the procedures and processes of the press foster both academic freedom and quality publications."

Eberstadt, LaRue and others have pointed out that Levine's assertions in the book rest solely on pro-pedophilia sources such as the NAMBLA Bulletin, and Levine's work earned her a book prize from the Los Angeles Times.

The roots of de-stigmatizing pedophilia in contemporary society

Peter Sprigg, Family Research Council director of Marriage and Family Studies, told CNSNews.com that the movement to de-stigmatize pedophilia within academia can be traced back to Alfred Kinsey in 1948....

scum

She looks like a pedo actually