Some of the best overlooked Pizzagate posts ( pizzagate )

submitted by JrSlimss

Here are some:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1474448 This post connects the old pedo guard to the new. Phyllis Schafly is connected to Alefantis. Barney Frank was at that small Media Matters party in 2009 with Alefantis and David Brock.

I only noticed that 2009 party's site because of this post, which also got relatively overlooked - only getting to 32: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1428757

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1448166 Terry Bean, the Obama and Clinton bundler, got off when his victim refused to show up to court. Most likely that was because the victim was paid more than 200k in a civil suit and took the money instead of testifying.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1491968 , https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1477463 There are many good posts about the Pizza Connection, none broke 20+. Why does the Pizza Connection matter? Same trafficking channels, new use. Human Trafficking is the new Drug Trafficking cause it's more profitable.( Link ) We know the mafia in former Yugoslavia countries were funneling them to Italy.( Link ) Maybe pizza places are fronts once again. Nevertheless, the first post is useful either way because the Clintons ties to the Mafia belies many of their connections.

As for two posts that we caught up with:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1457328 This had lots of good information about Bob Menendez, two months before most of the same subject matter would break big on this forum.

The Interim DC Police Chief Newsham stuff finally broke - but was also posted a month ago: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1485802

Morals of the story?

1) Always use search here when going down a new rabbit hole. Someone may have done much of the work already. In particular, it seems like a ton of information was overlooked when this forum was just getting going two months ago. 2) If you have really good info, post it here, but also in another forum that collects, holds and links information. No surprise, but the Pizzagate.Wiki gets my endorsement.

Have a good, sourced, overlooked post? Feel free to add any additional good overlooked posts here in the comments and I'll edit this post to include them.

To Mods: I understand how this can appear to be a "Meta" post, but it's intended to be a repost of the top posts that were overlooked - reposting being frequently allowed on this sub - as well as a discussion on how to improve research techniques in this investigation.

VieBleu

Phyllis Schefly who is now dead btw was an author of many many books, and toured to support them tirelessly (despite the fact she hypocritically preached in her books that women should stay at home.) So just because she and Podesta might have attended a book event at the same time or some other function once does not mean they are actually connected.

Can you prove this assertion that they were connected? I find it highly unlikely on the surface as she was an arch conservative and he of course a liberal. However DC does make strange bedfellows as we know too well.

PizzaGateDiscovery

I agree. I haven't found anything connecting them. I didn't see anything in the Podesta emails. Did you find something? One of her sons was homosexual, but mother and son got alone fine. He worked with her and is a conservative.

JrSlimss

Yeah, revised above. Waiting to hear back from OP.

PizzaGateDiscovery

You stated "Phyllis Schafly is connected to Alefantis."

I can't find Phyllis Schafly in the Podesta emails nor in the online book. Do you know where these references to Schafly are?.

JrSlimss

Let me go in and look at that part of the post. Not sure what his basis was.

PizzaGateDiscovery

I appreciate it.

Nana66

Thanks, I actually spent a very long time putting it all together into the post from several open windows of articles I've had bookmarked from months ago and trying to place then in the right order etc with a quick explanation but I also have grandkids who keep taking my attention away among other things and eventually I ended up needing to post what I had so far because there is no way to save and go back. The people who do whole blogs and post links to them here get their posts deleted usually but seems the best way to do a thorough post.

2impendingdoom

What is fantastic about this post is that it is a litigation case already in process, and it involves the UN, the Clintons, a suspicious death, human trafficking and Preet Bharara who has yet to cower to anyone. Unless there is a settlement, shit IS going to come out.

Nana66

If the info was already on here why would I make a post about it? If you can do it better feel free to reinvestigate and do it again, I don't call dibs, I want the truth out...if you are just looking for things you recognize in a title before bothering to read through then you just think it is too much trouble. I could give a cr@p less if it get's upVoats as long as important people have seen it and can use the info....and if you really don't know who Preet Bharara is then you should because this is important information relating to pizzagate....

http://investmentwatchblog.com/same-new-york-attorney-preet-bharara-investigating-anthony-weiner-has-launched-a-joint-fbiu-s-investigation-into-the-clinton-foundation-he-wants-the-clintons/

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/30/former-fbi-official-fbi-has-an-intensive-investigation-ongoing-into-clinton-foundation-video/

http://heavy.com/news/2016/10/clinton-foundation-fbi-investigation-wikileaks-active-doug-band-douglas-bill-inc-james-comey-chelsea-tom-fuentes-criminal-justice-department-loretta-lynch-preet-bharara-hillary-emails/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/30/donald-trump-asks-preet-bharara-stay-us-attorney-n/

I could have added ALL this info but assumed people involved in this already know who Preet Bharara is at least

VieBleu

You can say in one sentence who/wht is important and provide a link so people can familiarize themselves, then continue.

privatepizza

Love it. Bump.

Chad_Stethoscope

From WaPo article linked in 2nd underrated post https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1428757 : "Kloman, 75, pleaded guilty to inappropriately touching five girls at the school in the 1960s and ’70s and is serving a 43-year sentence."

Besides Alefantis' sister mother(?), there were many other letters written in support of Klaman that are from interesting sources, here's a few that stand out:

One letter from a former news anchor: "By way of introduction, my name is Charlie Gibson. For 33 years I was a journalist for ABC News. For 19 of those years I was a host of Good Morning America and for the four years before my retirement I was the anchor of World News with Charles Gibson, ABC's evening news broadcast. For 46 year~ I have been a friend of Chris Kloman's."

Gibson might have been mentioned before but I can't find anything on this next one where the name of the person writing in support was removed:

"I am 70 years old and practiced law with the St. Louis law firm of Bryan Cave McPheeters & McRoberts for many years. Both during that time and after my retirement from the practice of law, I have also been Chairman of the Love Companies, which is a group of banking, mortgage banking and investment firms headquartered in St. Louis and with respect to its FHA Multi-Family Mortgage Banking business with offices in D.C. and other major cities in the United States."

(side note: throughout the various letters of support, people claiming to be lifelong friends of the family are spelling the guy's name "Kleman" "Kloman" and "Klaman", sometimes all three ways, in the same letter, from the same supporter)

We may deduce that this unnamed supporter is Andrew S Love "Mr. Love is Chairman, Co-CEO and a principal owner of Love Savings Holding Company. He is also Director of Heartland Bank, Chairman of the Bank’s Finance-ALCO Committee and serves as a Director of Love Funding."

Another interesting connection pops up when we look at Laurence A Schiffer "Mr. Schiffer is Co-CEO and a principal owner of Love Savings Holding Company. He is also Chairman of Heartland Bank and its Loan Committee, Chairman of Love Funding and Chairman and CEO of Allegro Senior Living, a joint venture development company with Almanac Realty Investors formerly Rothschild Group, an international investment firm."

What is/are The Love Companies?

"Our roots in finance and development reach back to 1875."

"The Love Companies development and property management affiliates specialize in the development, ownership and management of commercial properties including senior lifestyle communities, hotels, shopping malls and multi-family properties."

Their subsidiaries: Love Management Company LLC "Love Management Company, LLC manages a diversified portfolio of real estate for the Love Companies and for third party owners."

Heartland Bank "Heartland Bank is a privately held company in Clayton, MO. Categorized under Savings and Loan Associations, Not Federally Chartered.

The Love Savings Holdings Company "As of December 31, 2014, Love Savings Holding Company was acquired by Midland States Bancorp, Inc. Love Savings Holding Company is a holding company operating through its subsidiary that offers commercial banking solutions such as savings and checking accounts, personal loans, and online banking. Love Savings Holding Company was founded in 1985 and is based in St. Louis, Missouri."

Allegro Senior Living "Allegro Senior Living specializes in the development and management of luxury retirement communities located in Florida and Kentucky."

Love Hotel Management Company "Love Hotel Management Company is a strategic hospitality management company that provides operational, sales and marketing, food and beverage and revenue management for some of the industry’s most respected hospitality properties."

There may likely be other holdings beyond these listed. This company might not be anything nefarious at all, but there's at least a few flags warranting a closer look.

Nana66

I always hope someone with power or real journalists who can do something with info, are paying attention because I feel like many of my posts and comments don't get any action with VOAT's....I can only hope it's because they took my lead and ran and never came back to upVoat me.

Edit: Voating here is also a game of chance...you get lucky if people have any to give or take...this is not really conducive to an investigation.

Here's my latest that has many powerful connections and only a handful of Voat's

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1624415

2impendingdoom

This was a great post, but everyone was over at the organ trafficking and Ginsberg threads. What is fantastic about this post is that it is a litigation case already in process, and it involves the UN, the Clintons, a suspicious death, human trafficking and Preet Bharara who has yet to cower to anyone. Unless there is a settlement, shit IS going to come out.

Nana66

Thanks.

DeathToMasons

Barney Frank was also implicated in the Franklin cover-up.

crystalclearme

Awesome awesome job! Thank you so much. I had been looking for a link between Franklin/Boystown and Pizzagate and I found it but then couldn't remember it so this is greatly appreciated. I also am taking another very very hard look at the Seth Rich case again and specifically DC police dept. I'd bet a great deal of money DC Police are HEAVILY involved in this. Have no doubt at all.

2impendingdoom

I have no doubt that if DC police didn't do the S. Rich crime than it also connects to the tunnels, this is my hunch because no traffic cam footage has been released. If Seth wasn't killed for leaking, than perhaps for the suspicion of it or what else he may have learned. Just like John Ashe in Nana66's UN corruption post, too many people around the Clintons are dead, and their reach spans the globe.

crystalclearme

Also we know this by looking at the pattern historically. This does NOT mean all of DC police are compromised but a culture of corruption is absolutely present to allow this to continue for decades

2impendingdoom

not everyone is corrupt, but there is a pattern that those who are, get to the top.

Vindicator

This is not a Meta post -- it is directly related to the investigation, in my opinion. Meta means unsourced bitching about the investigation or the board or whatever. At least that's how I see it. This was a great post, and much needed. Thanks for putting it together.

weedageddon

There could be like a weekly list of "leads" that haven't been thoroughly or successfully researched yet. Even small ones could potentially lead to new avenues.

Vindicator

This is a great idea, weedageddon. Unfortunately, Mods are barely keeping their heads above water at the moment just trying to vet new posts and keep the shitposts to a minimum. @JrSlimss , this was a great post and you are already in the birds-eye-view mode. Would you mind doing it?

weedageddon

If I become more knowledgeable on all this I will for sure.

JrSlimss

Sounds good. Let me think about the best way to go about it.

Vindicator

Another great thing would be to contact the OPs of important past threads that generated a lot of research and have them edit the post to summarize what was discovered. That way when people go to TOP, they will get the whole picture and not have to read so many comments. I've been trying to do this, but...not enough time! Argh.

JrSlimss

I like that idea alot. Suggest it on the mod board, /v/pizzagatemods , and tag a mod in the post.

Don-Keyhote

..and browse submissions of posters who dont suck

EQJ

Thank you! Agreed!