Survivors of abuse not safe with Crensch as v/pizzagate owner

Survivors of abuse not safe with Crensch as v/pizzagate owner ( pizzagate )

submitted 2017-02-09T11:33:59 by foxxywoxxy

Crensch doesn't “give a fuck” about survivors of child sexual abuse and should be removed as owner.

He / she clearly is not an appropriate person to have as owner on a forum where many survivors of pedophiles may go for information, discussion or research. He may cause them further trauma, triggering, PTSD and pyschological problems. He should be removed.

Crensch, is highly abusive and in his own words doesn't “give a fuck” about survivors of child sexual abuse,. Why is he the owner of v/pizzagate which investigates child sexual abuse?

Having suffered extreme trauma from repeated rape when children, victims often suffer PTSD, flashbacks and DID or memories, smells sounds, arguments and trauma on trauma.

On being told that “confrontation can be extremely triggering for victims” he replied

“..you fucking snowflake. I don't give a single fuck about “triggering” anyone. Voat is not the place for crybullies”

Here is screenshot http://imgur.com/a/1RzyU of the thread on v/pizzagatemods with Crensch

Major Long-Term Psychological Symptoms of Sexual Abuse 1. Anxiety 2. Panic Attacks 3. Low self-esteem 4. Stress disorders - PTSD 5. Personality disorders 6. Substance abuse 7. Self-abuse behaviors http://archive.is/5ISYq

The high deletion policy that he encourages has the effect of containing the investigation.

He is clearly not a fit person to own the subverse, when many victims come here and are put off by the confrontational atmosphere he creates or if they join, they risk pyschological damage.

He needs to be stopped before he sends someone over the edge. He should resign or be removed as owner. Nobody can possibly support his stance or abuse of survivors. @l4l1lul3l0 @Kwijibo @Vindicator @abortionburger @SpikyAube

https://voat.co/v/pizzagatemods/1623663

22 comments

Crensch 2017-02-11T05:07:36

Not a single narrative is being censored here. All OP has to do is follow the fucking rules.

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Vindicator 2017-02-10T07:35:08

As a mod, I try to always keep in mind that many folks in this subverse have a personal stake in this investigation, either because they were abused, or someone they love was. I also think there is a high percentage of v/pizzagate users who are from elsewhere and are not Voaters in the cultural sense that @Crensch typifies (i.e. belligerantly freespeech and adamantly anti-safespace). It's a recipe for a huge culture clash.

One thing I would say is that everyone can benefit from assimilating a bit of that culture -- from embracing the fact that God put a middle finger on both of our hands and we shouldn't be afraid to use them. Someone who has been subject to abuse ESPECIALLY needs to. Crensch has a lot to teach in that department.

I also never assume just because someone is rude, insensitive, abrasive, or acts like an asshole that they are evil or an enemy. I have yet to meet someone who has been a true protector or defender of my health, safety, or liberty -- be they a soldier, an attorney, or a surgeon -- who wasn't an "asshole" willing to inflict pain and disregard feelings. It's the assholes who don't give a fuck about feelings that will be the ones with the fortitude, focus and stamina to pursue and prosecute the child trafficking globalists. We need as many of them as we can get.

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Crensch 2017-02-10T07:48:43

Cheers to that, bud. Once I learned about Milgram Obedience, I never turned back.

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SpikyAube 2017-02-09T15:13:02

Wow I'm sorry you were subjected to that, it's completely unnecessary to be that much of a dick to anyone . I was hoping we'd all realised that being a spiteful bastard is how they operate, and how they want us to operate so that we're all alienating ourselves from one another and too busy fighting amongst ourselves to pay attention to their heinous crimes.

People who go online and get off on letting loose by being horrible to others in a way they never would dream of doing in meatspace, in my opinion have no place in the future world that's rid itself of the elite monster pedo rings - that kind of attitude is the kind those sick perverted creatures love, it's what they want, and it plays right into their hands to act that way. They don't expect us to all be kind and decent to one another because we've been brainwashed out of empathy to a large extent - literally it seems that this guy considers it unfashionable to be friendly or care about the wellbeing of strangers, and I've noticed that happening more and more, and it couldn't be more what the assholes on high want.

So in sum, I agree with you, fighting back is more than just investigating and demanding justice, it's also about saying no to dickishness and to reject assholery in all its forms. I am only a new little mod though so I'm not sure what I can do to help other than try to convince him that he's being an unwitting tool of The Pedos That Be, or perhaps he is a witting tool, I guess if he keeps up with that kind of thing it'll become obvious? It seems he has done a lot for the sub from reading over things, so maybe he has a squidgy heart in there somewhere?

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Crensch 2017-02-11T04:58:47

https://voat.co/v/introductions/1350015

And read the response here by Vindicator. You have no clue how the real world works outside of your bubble of virtue-signalling.

If you have something you'd like to address with me, please do so with a ping instead of a hidden comment like this.

Also, OP is nothing but a shitstirring troll, and you taking his side is extremely suspect.

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jangles 2017-02-09T13:20:47

At least he doesn't post useless crap, just comments.

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Crensch 2017-02-09T12:00:10

Violates rule 4 - Posted by @foxxywoxxy

Please submit to an alternate PG subverse found on the sidebar to the right. Perhaps /v/pizzagatemods or /v/pizzagatewhatever .

This is a meta post, and does not belong here.

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neurofluxation 2017-02-09T11:54:46

So, I upvoted you because I agree with your stance. However...
As long as @Crensch stops being a fucking dick in his responses - I feel someone who "doesn't care" is a good person to have in "charge". Someone who doesn't feel one way or the other who can be objective.

But as I said, there was no need for them to be so nasty... :/

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Crensch 2017-02-09T11:59:30

Thanks for the ping. Foxxy is a cowardly liar and dishonest arguer.

This is Voat, where I don't have to have a reason to be nasty to someone, but I had a very good reason to be nasty to OP.

OP accused me of not caring about victims of child-rape when I very specifically said that I do not care about their feelings. OP also pushes for allowing just any shit-tier content to be left alone here, which as we all know, would cause this place to become unusable.

OP is either a D&C shill, troll, or one of the most useful idiots for the child-fuckers on the internet, and I find all three to be extremely detestable.

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neurofluxation 2017-02-09T12:06:16

One thing I will bring to everyones attention is that @foxxywoxxy has only ever posted to PizzaGate with submissions with actual content.
Whereas some of your ( @Crensch ) posts across Voat are seemingly hate fuelled.

Now I don't want to get banned from this subverse and I don't want to start an argument. However, and please don't take this the wrong way, as a mod - you should probably chill out a bit - people aren't going to take this subverse seriously if they find out that you post hate in the /v/Niggers subverse...

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Crensch 2017-02-09T12:10:41

Whereas some of your ( @Crensch ) posts across Voat are seemingly hate fuelled.

So?

One thing I will bring to everyones attention is that @foxxywoxxy has only ever posted to PizzaGate with submissions with actual content.

Haven't really verified that, but OP seems to have a huge issue with following the rules, so I really don't care.

Now I don't want to get banned from this subverse and I don't want to start an argument. However, and please don't take this the wrong way, as a mod - you should probably chill out a bit - people aren't going to take this subverse seriously if they find out that you post hate in the /v/Niggers subverse...

First off, welcome to Voat . Second off, PG would have been destroyed in the first few days of trying to make a home here if it wasn't for me.

I'm not lying about that last part - nobody here would have gotten anything but 50+ downvotes for every comment and submission. It would have died.

Now take that information, look up Milgram Obedience, and make the connection there. I am not someone interested in being your friend, I'm interested in running a tight ship.

Take it or leave it, I care not which.

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neurofluxation 2017-02-09T12:24:31

That's fine. I'm just worried about the quality of posts and the general outlook on this subverse - there's a lot of shillin' and a lot of misinformation floating around.

Thanks for the welcome and thanks for the help getting Voat off the ground.

This subverse isn't about making friends, granted. But politeness doesn't cost anything.. That's kind of all I'm saying, respect other peoples problems whether you agree, disagree or couldn't give a shit.

I don't wanna sound like a hippy-shit, but we'll get more done if we get along.. :/

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Crensch 2017-02-09T12:59:18

For some reason I'm not seeing the response I swear I made where I gave you kudos for responding reasonably. On the off-chance that it didn't take, I appreciate the dialogue so far.

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Crensch 2017-02-09T12:33:07

That's fine. I'm just worried about the quality of posts and the general outlook on this subverse

All that matters is that a narrative isn't being pushed - and no narrative is being pushed here beyond "follow the rules". Peoples' perception of the place will most likely be from the front page, not from /new.

Also, this is Voat. Moderators' opinions mean fuck-all here because they're just janitors, not gods like the other place.

there's a lot of shillin' and a lot of misinformation floating around.

Which we took a lot of pains to make rules for where mods could have as objective a line as possible in which to determine whether something should be removed or not.

Thanks for the welcome and thanks for the help getting Voat off the ground.

Voat was fine, PG on Voat was close to getting brigaded by the users into nothingness because the mods here didn't know what, or how, to manage the utter onslaught of shitposts.

This subverse isn't about making friends, granted. But politeness doesn't cost anything.. That's kind of all I'm saying, respect other peoples problems whether you agree, disagree or couldn't give a shit.

OP got respect until it began lying about me and my position. I was extremely nice and helpful with showing OP how to ping, and explaining the rules - to which OP responded saying I was unhelpful and left some question of OP's unanswered, which I clearly did not.