I haven't seen these two clips circulate in the #PizzaGate investigation but believe they should be seen as evidence that Trump was/is going after the Clintons as pedophiles and cover up of sexual abuse of minors. As I don't live in the US I do not know whether they were ever aired on TV since none of these clips has any corporate branding.
The first clip is from a press conference (october 2016?) that Trump had with four women who claims to have been molested by Bill Clinton, one at the age of 12 - also accusing Hillary Clinton of covering up, bullying and laughing the matter off publicly. It's a short and not so well visited press conference just hours before a Clinton/Trump debate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpDC66Y3kAU
The second clip is from the actual debate with Hillary Clinton later the same day after Trump met with the victims. In the debate Trump exposes Bill Clinton as a pedophile in his presence, calling him "the worst abuser in the history of politics". Hillary Clinton immediately changes subject and alludes the issue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsMYVEVapUo
This happened just ~weeks/month before the #PizzaGate hashtag trended and should be considered as an evidence that Trump was/is going after the Clintons for involvement in child sex abuse.
So was this ever aired in US media?
In any case it should be shared...
▼ lemonsandlimes
This has absolutely nothing to do with pizzagate and Trump never mentioned anything about Bill that could even be construed to mean that he is a pedophile. Trump is talking about Bill's adult female rape victims. This should be obvious to everybody. Fucking idiots.
▼ ALDO_NOVA
actually we do know - the day Lorreta Lynch met with Bill Clinton on the tarmac:
▼ ConnectALLtheDOTS
So what do you make of the lawsuit brought by a woman who - with witnesses - says Trump raped her on Epstein's orgy island when she was a 13-yr old virgin? The case was settled out of court and obviously there would have been a rock solid gag order. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-dropped-230770
▼ ALDO_NOVA
its wasnt settled - it was dropped after changing the story 3 times, obviously a smear campaign that backfired
you really should research the history of Gloria Allred and her history of slanderous false claims
http://truthfeed.com/breaking-feminist-hoax-lawyer-and-clinton-supporter-gloria-allred-plans-stunt-with-another-fake-trump-accuser/29488/
▼ ALDO_NOVA
there was no settlement, the victim delinced at last minute to go forward with case...
(it was a last ditch effort to smear Trump and backfired)
▼ formatist
Both were aired. The media danced around both and made different storylines out of each event. Everyone on the Trump train was following this, though.
Example: Say Trump holds a press conference where he brings Clinton's accusers in - the media airs it. But then instead of asking the question, 'Are these credible' (which will only be asked if they can say 'no they're not), they will pose a different question such as 'Is it appropriate for Trump to be bringing these women in? Is it a sign of his unpredictability (or some negative quality),' and sidestep the issue of Clinton entirely.
▼ ALDO_NOVA
typical liberal response to evidence: deflection
▼ TrishaUK
I think Azzipdoe could be another way of writing = (Alfantis - Azzi pedo) azzip backwards is pizza. He has contributed NOTHING to VOAT - Click his name to see!! He is definitely a shill, only posting negative comments on good names & lead posts.
▼ Theupsidedown
Azzip = pizza, doe = dough
Pizza dough. What pizza is made out of. Definitely a fucking shill.
▼ dmthirdeye
Agreed this is a solid post I had not seen this information before either and his name is strange...
▼ Evileddie13
OP: Define Pedofile.
▼ MAGABoomer
alrighty then.
▼ Loserfour
Infowars covered it
▼ Z11Mama
Now that there are forums like this, you don't need to feel pressured to do a thing. Go with your gut. Read what you do. Research what you do. Comment. It is the little pieces of everyone working together like this that is truly leading somewhere. People like you that care about the truth have been badly needed for too long. So...keep up the good work and don't let it become stressful and turn you away.
▼ MAGABoomer
It also doesn't help that people IN the FBI are involved. I agree on the trust issue. I feel for Trump because he almost can't trust anyone.
Yes, as badly as I'd like to be wrong, I agree, this is not going to end soon. Anyone thinking Trump can just use bleachbit on them across the board without facing some serious legal backlash and possible impeachment...is smoking the good crack.
I'm hoping they off themselves.
▼ Azzipdoe
Wtf is with these threads lately. Everybody already saw this shit 4 months ago.
▼ dontmindthemess
Keep it fresh. Keep posting and re-posting, we need to do anything to keep bringing it up and gain more support.
▼ Catchthem
Ooh look here, he's attacking someone again!
▼ TrishaUK
What do you think? Azzipdoe could be another way of writing = (Alfantis - Azzi pedo) azzip backwards is pizza. He has contributed NOTHING to VOAT - Click his name to see!! He is definitely a shill, only posting negative comments on good names & lead posts.
▼ Catchthem
Exactly i saw it also. Contributed himself nothing at all, only giving people a big mouth with negative comments.. Look at his comments, almost all really rude to people. Ofcourse sometimes things will be put here double. But he really attacks people. Yes you could be right with that Azzi pedo!
▼ CavemanCult
Just a thought, if what he said was false, wouldn't they have been able to sue for slander?
▼ ALDO_NOVA
the irony is they use "copyright" protection to have evidence removed from the internet, meaning: THEY ARE ADMITTING THEY OWN WHAT THEY DID
▼ lostinthevalley
I saw the question about suing answered elsewhere by someone apparently in the know. He said it's very hard to prove a negative. If you say "So-and-so molested a child on this date at this time at this place" then the accused can sue if, for example, they have an alibi or if they have a video of said location which shows it was another person doing the crime. But if you just say "He is a pedo" how does he prove he is not? That he's dated adult women, married one, has never been accused of it before? None of that is proof.
▼ V____Z
That's always been David Seaman's contention: he's always calling out Podesta for being a pedocriminal, he's showing the world that he obviously has a case, or else Podesta would make a big deal out of his innocence and sue.
▼ DantePerez2017
Some of these people have reputations that have permanently been destroyed and severely tainted. For them to remain silent speaks volumes ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_(law)
▼ Disgusted-Lurker
Same for Jimmy Comet....if he's so fucking innocent, why isn't he suing?
His former (current?) flame, Brock, is spending something like $40mln to combat "fake news".
Wouldn't the best way to shut it down and clear your name be via slander and libel lawsuits...?? That's what I would do if I were innocent.
Discovery is a bitch, boys...
▼ Poot_McGarvey
This is true but defamation suits are also notoriously difficult to win when the person who is defamed is a public figure.
You have to prove not only that the information is objectively false, you also have to prove that the publisher published the material knowing it was false OR published the material with a reckless disregard for the truth.
So you basically have to prove that they were malicious, and not just ill informed and stupid. Being wrong, ill informed, and stupid is basically a valid defense for publishing slanderous shit about people (when they are a public figure, anyway)
▼ Disgusted-Lurker
I totally understand that it would be a tough battle to actually collect damages on.
But making a public legal spectacle of it would in essence clear their reputation, regardless of exact outcome.
They don't want skeletons to come tumbling out of the closet. So they will continue with the fake news straw man....
▼ Silex
Booyaka !
▼ Tb0n3
Why go through the hassle when nobody takes the claims seriously?
▼ llm2016
How about you not being a shill?
▼ Tb0n3
Already covered.
▼ Votescam
Anyone who looks into the issue of pedo-gate/pizzagate takes the claims seriously - and actually very seriously -- !!
However, MSM/CIA-corporate media aren't allowed to take the claims seriously -- they're under gag order.
▼ V____Z
the alternative, to not even try to save the kids, is unthinkable.
▼ Tb0n3
The alternative to not responding to crazy people is saving children?
wat
▼ jonnythaiwongy9
Because they are serious claims. If people were calling me a pedo in front of tens of thousands, if I was innocent, whatever the case, I would clear my name decisively
▼ Infopractical
Because a lot of people take the claims seriously. The last poll I saw said 48% of Republicans and 25% of Democrats believed pizzagate is real, and I suspect independent-minded people are likely to be closer to the Republican number if not beyond it a bit. Perhaps that means 40-ish percent of Americans believe pizzagate is real. That's far from nobody, and the actual question is beyond "taking the claims seriously", which might be more like 50% or 60%.
▼ Tb0n3
Bullshit on that poll. No fucking way. Maybe 50 people but not 50%.
▼ ALDO_NOVA
WHY ARE YOU HERE???
▼ Tb0n3
Because I saw bullshit and wanted to call it bullshit.
▼ Therealnickcage
So could the slander/libel path be a course to flush them out? Publicly call out Clintons/Podestas as pedophiles everywhere we can and hope they take us to court. Get on the news, take out ads, paint graffiti and sign it. Do whatever it takes to get them to sue.
▼ surgeson
That woman is Katy Shelton . Please do some research before posting.
▼ VictorDaniels777
And then a fly landed on Hillary's shitty face.
▼ MAGABoomer
If you have to swim in shark infested waters isn't it wiser not to bleed? Trump also slyly outed Epstein while seemingly paying a compliment.
Knowing you can't do anything about something, and biding your time until you can is one thing. Spending millions of your own money to get into a position to actually do it...that's something. If the Hillary investigation took years, why on earth are people expecting arrests this week? These people are serious heavy hitters. Right now they're ALL freaking out. Why is that do you wonder?
▼ nomorepepperoni
Too true. I watch what he does rather than what he says for this reason.
▼ nomorepepperoni
That she defended a child rapist by trying to suggest the kid was "asking for it" was quite telling...
But I think the 12 year old referenced here is the one where Hillary defended the rapist as defense attorney, and said rapist wasn't Bill. Still, I think it speaks to her psyche towards this sort of thing. She could probably permit elites to funnel trafficking through her foundation with the right rationalization.
▼ lemonsandlimes
Yeah pretty important that the 12 year old in question has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Bill Clinton.
Do you guys actually read / watch the horseshit that you upvote or do you just upvote posts with titles you like?
▼ Tanngrisnir
Hillary also lied in a sworn affidavit during that case. She claimed to have been told the little girl that was raped had made false accusations in the past without ever naming a source. She has no shame.
https://soapboxie.com/us-politics/hillaryrapecase
▼ V____Z
She is a true, textbook sociopath.
▼ Celticgirlonamission
Without a doubt...you cant fix a sociopath...no cure
▼ Nana66
I wonder if the rapist....was a friend....
▼ sore_ass_losers
I agree, and that makes the post title wrong.
▼ VIrginiaPerson
For anyone who doesn't know the Kathy Shelton details, here is a pretty good article about it: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3729466/Child-rape-victim-comes-forward-time-40-years-call-Hillary-Clinton-liar-defended-rapist-smearing-blocking-evidence-callously-laughing-knew-guilty.html
Here is a youtube with the audio of Hillary laughing about the case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tor00iWUhDQ The audio is telling because it's a rare glimpse into one of these elites speaking about one of the "little people" and showing us how she really feels. Kind of like if the drive-thru people forget to charge you for your Big Mac and you get away with it.
▼ JrSlimss
I like how the fly lands on her right after she says he's lying.
You got Beelzebub right there - also known as "Lord of the Flies" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beelzebub
▼ YingYangMom
Flies are also known to be attracted to the smell of shit and decomposing matter.
▼ EarlPoncho
Psalm 78:45
He sent among them swarms of flies which devoured them, And frogs which destroyed them.
▼ NoMoreScreenNames
Good Ol' Pepe!
▼ Cattsee
Shadilay!
▼ zagreos
Swarms of Pepe.……
▼ strix-varia
The fly also liked to land on barry!
▼ DustyRadio
Yes, Barack Obama had multiple occasions where big black blowflies would come out of no where and land on his face. This happened even in the dead of winter. I had never known anyone who attracted flies like that guy. When Hillary had flies landing on her in the debates, it sickened me. WTF.
▼ V____Z
It's a sign.
▼ OhRutherfordBehave
Thanks for the hard work OP.