Scablifter

Thanks, it a nice scenario and I hope it comes true quite soon. I fear that it could must probably get lethally ugly, these people are the creatures who control us all and will do anything to keep their deeds in the dark. I hope and pray that quite soon that which was hidden will be bought to light, it will turn the world upside down and inside out, that's for sure.

huwiteyffffff

I think that is a fantastic point.

We can give them justice, but only after being forced to MAGA.

Also, If it is bad enough, and enough of the most powerful and famous are complicit, or participants, it honestly might be better to not risk the absolute mayhem and psycho-social trauma it could throw the entire country and world into.

If they have that option it would be a serious.one.

Yoke the power of Evil.

2impendingdoom

What seems to be the case is that Flynn talked to a Russian diplomat and made it clear that Trump was not going to continue Obama's hostility. Until the NSA shows PROOF of Russia hacking, I don't believe that it ever happened. You have proof in the Podesta emails of business with Russia, through the company "Joule" and the transfer of uranium mining rights (movie Clinton Cash), so actually, there is more evidence of an improper Russia relationship with Podesta and Clintons, than with Trump.

Blacksmith21

Sorry for the formatting. I tried to fix it. No joy.

I am trying to be so open-minded about this topic - the left/right thing. I've been involved in politically charged environments for a long time and I have a very well-entrenched opinion which I can back with facts. Unfortunately, most of it needs to be kept within my household 90% of the time.

Many of us on the right feel especially pissed and vindictive towards those from the hard left (which now includes CNN) and the vile attacks we have withstood for well over a decade in every way shape and form. You may want to try and understand how many of us view those on the left and try and be more empathetic to our viewpoints and try not to get so bent out of shape when someone makes a partisan comment.

Lastly, my partner was very hard left when we met and has since become 95% politically aligned with my views after a decade+ of being with me. So please don't accuse me of living in an echo chamber.

2impendingdoom

I'm a bit confused how Trump's admin is super cozy with Russia other than that Obama was overtly working to antagonize Russia into a war just prior to leaving office and Trump (through Flynn) diverted this. These same agencies never provided clear cut evidence of Russia hacking in spite of having the capability to do so, and the alleged dossier smacks of being fabricated a little too convenient and a lot too late (why was this not release during the campaigning?). Clearly the syria/turkey/russia situation is ongoing but that doesn't implicate Trump meddling. Trump hasn't been directing foreign policy.

If anything, the only logical conclusion about what is going on is that the intelligence agencies are working to hide and suppress evidence and information that proves Obama, Clinton, or their own wrongdoing, otherwise why not share the information. They claim that Trump is too dangerous to trust with intelligence, but really, who is that danger for??? Trump has already shown that he doesn't want war (with Russia at least) and massively criticized Bush and HRC for the Iraq war so claiming that Trump is dangerous seems unfounded. I'm not saying I like Trump yet, but really, how many times did Clapper lie to congress?

Blacksmith21

It is obviously lost on you that I modified my position. I opted to maintain journalistic and investigative integrity, by leaving in the original post comments in parentheses.

So to be clear, you are attacking me based on a retracted position?

2impendingdoom

http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.771278

So if the NSA and related defense/security intelligence agencies refuse to provide intelligence to the executive office (which is the commander in chief of the military after all) how can they justify their existence? And what are they doing? They are basically announcing that they are operating rouge? How isn't this treason? Shouldn't congress be cutting off their funding? What am I missing here? If they can't do their job in good conscience, isn't the protocol to quit?

FartOnYou

Pizzagate is becoming more and more of a joke everyday. Its been one nutjob after another claiming arrests emenent SINCE LAST OCTOBER. People still fall for larpers like fbianon and seaman stain

PakisLove2GetShot

The people who fall for larpers are doing it for the rush of paranoia, not for the truth.

If you want the truth, you use logic. You don't just go for the most fantastical possibility every time. I think it's drug use or some kind of mental illness that makes people believe whatever theory or rumor titillates them without questioning it.

FriesischShipping

when NYPD police chiefs says things, people tend to believe them.

2impendingdoom

Is it asking too much for the NYPD police chief to SHOW us?

FriesischShipping

is it too much too ask for Israel, Russia, China & Saudi Arabia to show us?

2impendingdoom

Can they bust it through our MSM? that would be labeled fake news immediately. Anyway I don't see how exposing PG to be in the best interest of Israel or SA at all. China Russia, idk.

FriesischShipping

Think about it, why wouldn't Russia want to release it? It destabilizes our country, possibly drops it into a civil war = payback for the fall of the USSR.

2impendingdoom

why are all the comments on this tread disappearing?

FriesischShipping

Got downvoated and collapse the thread.

DarkMath

What about Robert Boyce of the NYPD? He saw the emails on Podesta's laptop and said there's evidence of human trafficking, money laundering etc etc. Boyce confirmed pretty much everything that's been discussed here.

huwiteyffffff

I think it's far more complicated to bring down one powerful, well connected person than any of us imagine. And far more complicated and difficult than that to bring down an entire system.

derram

https://archive.is/UF9E1 :

Liberals On the Edge of a Nervous Breakdown - POLITICO Magazine

https://archive.is/6ntlR :

The real threat of suicide contagion under a Trump presidency

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