archons

It is strange how they let heavily shilled threads on Seaman stay up and will remove some pretty damning evidence others post. At least the more shilled Seaman is the more exposure he gets. I post his videos on my group pages. I spread the message far and wide.

sunshine702

It's because we were told to wait until Trump got in, then till Sessions got in, then FBI anon said just a bit more waiting. Sandusky's son is not big enough for me.

I am disheartened, it's not the shills it's that maybe some people are "too big to jail" and "above the law".

iwokeup

It sort of Reminds me of the "concern trolling" that occurred on the_donald leading up to the election.

Weightstone

personally, I think the discouragement is going to come from within, because its being looked at incorrectly. As I was taught, you need to go about it like foreplay.

Instead of going bull-at-a-gate, work around the edge until you find the in. the loose thread. And too me the glaring obvious place to start is pedo town "Hollywood". From there the (ironically: Spacey show about Evil Politicians) 'house of cards' will crumble.

gangpressorliber

This could also be to make the perps feel that they are at ease... as far as I'm concerned this doesn't help us to shut up and go away it feeds us and grows our numbers.

iamthepizzanow

Whether or not it's from that, theres something definitely having an effect, even on myself, but I noticed it early and pushed my doubts aside to keep on digging. I suggest to anyone having doubts or fallback to do the same. We've come too far to walk away.

Singleservename

Look at the current topics upvoated. This sub has gone to shit.

CTR mission accomplished

SturdyGal

Understood. Thank you, Mr. Pong.

SturdyGal

You are correct as usual Mr. Pong. It is the only thought that is keeping me sane. It has already happened.

VieBleu

I had a conversation this morning that put a different spin on it for me -

What if all the "arrests are coming down" leaks are to get that buzz going around the perps, then law enforcement watches to see who starts to make moves - selling/hiding assets, making travel plans, moving locations, making contacts with connections that are not made unless something important is going down, offloading contraband, scrubbing hard drives, shredding docs, the works.

We forget but police work can be a very emotion based game - you are dealing with people who act out under stress (I mean the criminals hopefully). It could be very useful to law enforcement to pump up the paranoia and put the screws on and just watch and wait. Cats can be VERY patient when stalking their mice you know. .

ADDED: yes I agree Bolux -yes, they can't get their fix so easily now. So it would be only a matter of time before they go to less trusted sources (backpages of weeklies) or hit the streets to get it - and can be busted there.

Incredible if we hear of Podesta being jailed overnight for solicitation of a minor, booked and released, but the wheels of justice start their slow grind and victims start to come forward...an anon can dream

ALSO: I keep having thoughts on this. Look, we want any arrests made to be made properly and to stick. What if a month from now it goes down. Sure a terrible wait for us, but in the scheme of things, they have got to have their ducks in a row and our wait agony is unimportant. Sessions butt has just hit his new office chair today probably.

They've got a lot of leads since Superbowl arrests and California sting went down - what if they are getting leads and turning over of evidence and testimony to bigger fish than they thought they could. The Superbowl perps have to lawyer up to make plea deals, these things take a second or two. Is it worth waiting a little while to get the best busts they can? Of course it is.

I really have no doubt, going forward there are going to be far more arrests of pedos than their ever have been and higher up the chains. The pressure is on pedos, if you don't have an escape plan in place, you are already behind the curve. Start dumping and pumping and scanning and running, because this game is far far far from over.

Okay FINAL THOUGHT: And what about that horrible torture audio that surfaced over the last few days. WHAT IF - the perp knows who is recorded there, even if we can't say for sure it is Podesta or anyone else. What if it is a warning - "Hey, we know you are watching to see what surfaces. We've got this on you. Who knows what else we've got. Pressure is ON perp!" What if law enforcement is playing the internet like a well tempered clavier? (Westworld ref.)

Bolux

I agree and also these sickos will not or can not stop what they are doing they are addicted and even though I'm sure they are being as careful as possible there are too many eyes on them now.Give em enough rope comes to mind.

JastheMace

You almost had me. The 'Buzz' you speak of isn't intended to help the 'police'.....but it might be intended as you sort of suggest, a signal to destroy evidence.

Mtnchan

Yes that may be, good point

Forgetmenot

I down voat them when they are really obvious and they have a poor history.

SturdyGal

LOL not being bossy, MrPong, cheerleading. I feel like you have captured the essence of the way forward.

SturdyGal

The more they shill, the more they confirm that we are onto something and the more I take courage. Their efforts are proof that their is something to pizzagate and to child trafficking. They are trying every angle:

  • Tag teaming (impersonating several people at once so you think a majority disapproves your post)

  • Saying unspeakable things that hurt your heart and soul

  • Making you feel your post is stupid

  • Posting duplicate and trivial posts so important posts get lost

  • Posing as idiotic pizzagaters so that those interested in child trafficking leave VOAT without further research

And more. I just makes me sure we are onto something. Don't quit, instead, watch how they work. It tells you a lot about how they think. Apart from encouraging me, they have educated me to the opposition.

SturdyGal

This is it, Mr Pong. Ignore the parties, the identity politics, the agendas. Do what is right. Be an agent of God.

CeepsNo

I suspect seaman doesn't have a reliable insider source. We'll see if these so-called high profile arrests pan out. You might be right about discouragement. It's hard to tell.

There does seem to be a genuine increase in pedo ring stings / busts, but I can't tell if it's more now than under Obama.

Perhaps anons spurred into action by pizzagate and awareness of pedo symbols have forwarded reliable intel to FBI, who can then get warrants, where they couldn't legally hack or have the resources to investigate all of it themselves. If I break in and see illegal stuff happening, and report that, they can then take action, but even if they know something is going on at X place, they might not be able to legally take action until they have more evidence.

Z11Mama

Anyone can say what they want. This post is relevant. I have said this very thing in prior comments on Voat but not nearly so well. Great job mtnchan, I am completely impressed with the points you made to back up this line of thinking.

speckie

I'm beginning to believe Pizzagate was spun up to distract people from the Clinton's foundation, Clinton email and other scandals. Eric Braverman is still missing, nobody has been arrested or prosecuted in the Clinton camp, and the mainstream media only has its eyes on Trump. I'm not saying PG isn't real, but at some point one would hope someone, somewhere would be arrested for something with an association to the Clintons.

TupacsTattoo

Eric Braverman was found.. He's on the west Coast heading up A Google Foundation.

gangpressorliber

They go hand in hand

roundhouse1776

I think this thread is the real conspiracy. I think morale is already pretty low around here and threads like this don't help any. All it would take is for someone in the Trump administration or someone with actual insider knowledge to throw us a bone and it would be back to full steam ahead in like 5 minutes.

rooting4redpillers

The tweet linked in the OP takes you to this article:

David Brock Wants To Build His Own Koch Donor Network

Excerpt: The conference’s more eclectic offerings include a welcome speech from liberal newscaster Keith Olbermann; cameos by two Republicans, Bill Weld and Richard Painter; and a session on “Fake News: What It Is and What To Do About It,” led by Brock’s former boyfriend of 10 years, James Alefantis, owner of Comet Ping Pong , the D.C. pizza place that became ensnared for weeks in #pizzagate, the campaign to spread viral and vulgar fake news stories involving Clinton at the restaurant.

darkofthemoon

Note also the very high amounts of negative, discouraging comments when something looks about to happen. I think a lot of those are probably shills, and I'm not just talking about that one guy who used numbered aliases.

Watching

Tis interesting for sure... I just posted a David Seaman video about "recent arrests" and it had at least 5 negative comments within 5 minutes of posting..Who knows...Keep Watching..

roundhouse1776

When something "big" is about to happen, more often than not it's something stupid and the downvotes are from people who have seen the dog and pony show before and know it's going to end in disappointment. Such as the David Seaman shitshow that took place today.

FriesischShipping

I feel like these are shills commenting on shills, creating the illusion of a "truth" dialog. Also, obviously working in teams albeit sporadically.

privatepizza

Agree, if you look at the accounts they're mostly 8 days old with no or very little previous posts. It's obvious they're CTR. David Seaman certainly brings the shills out.

JastheMace

Yes, controlled opposition, that way 'they' control the discussion or narrative in your example. If all humans died right now, there would be bots arguing both sides until the power plants stopped.

rooting4redpillers

Democracy Matters - Strategic Plan for Action

Full David Brock Confidential Memo On Fighting Trump


Washington Free Beacon, January 26, 2017:

Read the Confidential David Brock Memo Outlining Plans to Attack Trump

Memo was handed out to big money liberal donors at posh Florida retreat

David Brock, the seasoned liberal operative and Clinton loyalist who founded Media Matters, huddled with more than 100 donors last weekend at the swanky Turnberry Isle Resort in Aventura, Fla. to map out how Democrats will "kick Donald Trump's ass."

The Washington Free Beacon attended the retreat and obtained David Brock's private and confidential memorandum from the meeting. The memo, "Democracy Matters: Strategic Plan for Action," outlines Brock's four-year agenda to attack Trump and Republicans using Media Matters, American Bridge, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW), and Shareblue.

dogeminho

True that! They want us to give up, never.