Markb63

I can not bring myself to believe him.

Exern

Could someone explain to me why people don't like Ashton Kutcher? More to the point, why do people believe he's actually in on the trafficking aspect and why do people think he's not being genuine? Being completely serious here.

IlluminatiKing

Seems like this was planned for some time.

BoraxTheFungarian

Smells fishy.

catslovejustice

I listened to part of the hearing. Honestly I am very suspicious of the motivation and timing of this hearing. Ashton Kutcher talked about his work creating software to help save trafficked children but he would not say how it worked. He was VERY vague describing his product only saying that it was a software that would help save trafficked children and it works great. But he was very clear that he was wanting some taxpayer $$$ for his business.

I also found the following suspicious: Ashton blew a kiss to McCain. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEqbc_aPE6w Elissa Massimino made a case for stopping the executive order on keeping refugees out because it was hurting victims of sex trafficking. She also mentioned PUTIN. Susan Molinari from Google was there. Ernie Allen the one who founded the Center for Missing and Exploited Children was also present.

If you look at the committee members, some of the group looks like they might have certain proclivities.

centima

NO, this is the first time MSM media sources are reporting on child trafficking. They are making him the face of the fight. Look at the THORN website! The companies that "lend information" include Twitter, Facebook, Google.... this is just another way for MSM to break a major story to the public in the way they choose. Reminds me of a white man with an assault rifle walking into a pizza shop expecting HRC behind the counter...

cantsleepawink

They are not going to get away with now sliding their new 'big data' systems into place with their Hollywood actors as sjw fronts. No way. I'm onto that game BIGLEY !!!!!!

eiggaMAD

I bet he'll soon move into a political position. Not just based on this but I'm sure they are already scouting (or have planned) how to take back office. I wonder if he's a future prospect.

21yearsofdigging

I lived and worked as an actor in Hollywood and I can safety say that based on that experience I wouldn't trust any of them, either that, or they are too insulated to really know anything.Fuck Hollywood. They like making us think they care

EarlPoncho

and yet he supported hillary clinton. i dont buy this shit for a second. maybe it's cause he's a terrible actor but that shit wasn't convincing at all

TabiCatTwo

He not only recognized there was a problem he is doing something about it. Created software that enables the faster rescue of victims. If these government elites shoot him down that will be a huge red flag. Finally someone from Hollywood I can respect. I don't care what his politics are.

21yearsofdigging

They won't move a muscle if they think they may be outed or harassed. Cowards, I can't SCREAM this loud enough. Lived there and worked as an actor for 20 years. Don't fall for it

cantsleepawink

Not falling for it. It's clear what's happening and they are not going to get away with it.

duhiki

If I recall correctly, he and Demi Moore started an activist movement in 2008.

Per http://www.trueactivist.com/bravo-ashton-kutchers-organization-has-saved-6000-sex-trafficking-victims/

The big problem is that the tech sites that support THORN are ones complicit in propaganda and hiding the truth.

cantsleepawink

I'm doing a report on the tech side of trafficking. You might be interested. Not yet done, but this recent post alludes to some of my thoughts. Though the issue is far broader than I write in here https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1640875

cantsleepawink

Yes, I'm doing a report on the new tech systems. It's how they think they will get away with trafficking in the future...Not on my watch...

VieBleu

The big problem is that the tech sites that support THORN are ones complicit in propaganda and hiding the truth.>

Can you give more detail and some back up on this? Or are you just saying he uses Google like we all do and Google is evil.

micha_

Kutcher says in his statement, that THORN receives support from Google and Microsoft.

I must say, I was positively surprised by his statement, although he was playing quite a drama queen. But when talking about his kids as father, that seemed honest to me. As a liberal, I guess in the futuere he will become wuite shocked, how the left has been infiltrated by pedos and satanists, because their progressive stance against all traditional values has made the left an ideal Trojan horse for the blackmailing shadow government.

duhiki

In that link I posted: Some of the 20 tech companies that are part of the Force include Facebook, Google, Twitter, Yahoo!, Snapchat, and Imgur.

Google CEO offered the Google plane to the Clintons for their Africa trip. http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/30/leaked-email-reveals-google-chairman-wanted-to-be-clinton-campaigns-head-outside-advisor/

Facebook/Twitter are both censored outlets in favor pushing propaganda.

VieBleu

Pretty sure Facebook, Google Twitter, Yahoo and Snapchat and Imgur are used by every person here every day including you. Are you going to stop using google ever because of that plane? I haven't, so I guess I'm as guilty as Kutcher. So thrown me on the bonfire too.

duhiki

I boycott Google because they're super friendsies with the Clintons. That's enough of a reason; not that all who are buddies with them are pedo sacks of shit, but there should be some side-eye going on. Heard the adage that you're as good as your friends? Well, if you're lending your pedo sack of shit friends your private plane so they can go frolic and screw over African nations, then yeah, I'll judge that person pretty harshly.

I'm a cunt like that.

VieBleu

well we need you cunts. Keep after it. But catching something real is going to make a diference, not just a bunch of slanderous garbage. If you are seriously saying you are going to try to go PC and dam him for dating his own wife when they were younger, you are going to seriously fail with shit like that.

strix-varia

Hmmmm, all day? If so, then has he seen this website? If so, has he joined in and offered anything, other than this? If so, has he joined in and mentioned how perverted hollywood has become over the decades or maybe he just doesn't know how misguided the "stars" of hollywood have become? If so, then why was he a supporter of the cf?

21yearsofdigging

Lived there and they are fucked, almost all of them

Forgetmenot

You should be the journalist conducting the interview!

V____Z

Love it. The elite have one of their Hollywood operatives take over a cause, then promptly redefine it so as to defend the elite.

Child trafficking he defines as something that takes place in Cambodia, by Western tourists. And the victims are girls, who think they're playing.

When what pizzagate is uncovering is that our own government is flying in hot dogs to the White House, and supporting pizza shops whose owner calls babies "hotards", and that the kids don't think they're playing, the kids are screaming in terror so loud you can hear it from the street outside Comet.

Sure it takes place in Thailand and Cambodia, and yes, middle class men go over and rent these kids for sex, but what is happening in America is not conspiracy theory, and his framing of child trafficking as something that happens "over there" is very disturbing.

VieBleu

His statement said America.

V____Z

Oh, good. I should have listened more carefully. It didn't seem to reflect what we've been learning here, though.

VieBleu

not wanting to be harsh, but I have a criticism (in general).

I want these places where we spend time to have a touch more humanity to them. I can't stand these bandwagons of yeah let's get on and snark together because "liberals". Liberals are people too, Conservatives are people too. I've even heard libertarian are, sometimes when they aren't robots. Do you want to be just another dumphuk that lets the elites divide us with these labels?

Why do we have to find one guy who is actually appearing to try to do something, and have a bash party?

I think it sux.

Ok I'm down off my soapbox, thanks for allowing me to do that on your comment. ; )

Forgetmenot

Thank you for saying that. I suspect the meaner type of posts are likely shills..... we are here for children and if that does not bring out a sense of compassion but also reverence for this work well then maybe their motivations are not like ours. Unity is very powerful and they know it. :)

V____Z

I hear everything you're saying, however for my part, my responses to people are nuanced. I don't trust Alex Jones, based on my research and gut instinct, whilst I do trust David Seaman, based on many years of experience following him. My gut instinct with Ashton and his appearance today is 100% red flags. This isn't about bashing libs for me, i was a Bernie fan and a lifelong Dem. And even if i want for a hero to rise up and help us, i am not going to allow this desire to drown out the red flags when they arise. (This too was general, and thank you for allowing me to use your comment to further my thoughts)

VieBleu

Ok I hear you. I looked at it glass half full I guess. As part of the Trump commitment to making some moves on this shit, with Sessions. Better climate and all. All the busts going down and an very pointed speech by a celeb to congress (guarantees they'll show up).

I appreciate the discussion.

V____Z

Yeah, I hear you. I guess I'm miffed that since he has such a huge platform, he should have included the abuse coming from the top, not just the middle level nobodies we've known about forever. I don't want anyone watering down or diverting our investigation. He could easily drown out all that we've been uncovering with regard to DC, the Podesta leaks, and the history including Franklin Scandal. Why doesn't he mention that? I have some ideas why.

VieBleu

Have faith - no one is going to water us down! No way.

Every trafficker broken is a win. If he's helped even a few hundred out of being trafficked, imagine the difference in their lives.

I predict he will respond to pizzagate citizens positively in the months ahead. Let's wait and see.

V____Z

We'll meet again in two months and see if he's mentioned it, helped or responded to us, or not. Sounds good!

VieBleu

It's a date! But I'd give him till June or so.

V____Z

Ok see you in June ;)

carmencita

You will be taken down Ashton like all the rest of them. The Revenge Will Be Sweet.

cantsleepawink

Oh yes. I'm on that case too.

21yearsofdigging

fuck em all

VieBleu

Carmencitaaaaaa - naughty. on what basis are you accusing?

JrSlimss

VieBleu

"Back in 2011, Kutcher tweeted (and then deleted): “How do you fire Jo Pa? #insult #noclass as a hawkeye fan I find it in poor taste.” He later apologized for the error, and ceded control of his Twitter handle to his company, Katalyst Media (although not for long). Even George Clooney called him an asshole for the gaffe." - HE STOPPED TWITTERING OVER IT PEOPLE. He made a mistake. guess you never have.

and dating his now wife when they were both young? Cmon, there's nothing there.

Everyone in Hollywood yes is connected to Geffen, and has had Combs to dinner.

This is actually a witch hunt to disable someone doing a good job.

I call disinfo hangout on the BS

JrSlimss

Hah, yeah, skip over the connections as well.

VieBleu

Something doesn't smell right with your arguments. So good luck.

carmencita

I know I should not say that when I do not have rock solid proof, but I never liked him being around those young girls. I did not like how he dumped Demi Moor and hooked up with someone else without hardly a moment's notice. It all seemed fishy.

VieBleu

Live your life under a microscope, are you perfect? Don't be so willing to join a bunch of moronic Aholes in a chorus of unsupported bs. you are better than that.

cantsleepawink

His big data system....Thorn....I've been studying the new tech systems....

VieBleu

so we are not allowed to have any white hat big data systems because....

cantsleepawink

Actually, I started to allude to it here. But I will make a comprehensive post when I'm ready. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1640875

cantsleepawink

I didn't say that. I have a systems background. But I've been studying how they've been modernizing their trafficking systems...Too complicated to write here...I will definitely post on this.

VieBleu

ok ping me when you do, I do want to see it.

cantsleepawink

will do

gangpressorliber

BULL SHIT!