Not_A_Large_Duck

To say that these people might be biased is a colossal understatement. Snopes is the weakest of my three arguments above and even that while not a direct link to a situation that could be perceived as collusion or corruption is ridiculous to say the least. Any sane rational person that is being intellectually honest has to admit that Pizzagate is not debunked in the slightest.

Debunked by Snopes, which is run by David P. Mikkelson and a porn star escort. Oh by the way he's accused of embezzling money from Snopes.com to pay for the escort and another Vice dominatrix or some shit. Oh and she is also one of the fact checkers. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4042194/Facebook-fact-checker-arbitrate-fake-news-accused-defrauding-website-pay-prostitutes-staff-includes-escort-porn-star-Vice-Vixen-domme.html

NYT, writers for which were famously invited to attend off-the-record dinner @ John Podesta's as revealed in wikileaks email https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/12063

DC police, whose Chief is famously in a photo with James Alefantis oh and also linked to some suspicious rape case. http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/221018540-story

I can't find a source for the Fox news claim.

formatist

Totally - had same reaction. Actually, now that you bring it up, what is stopping it from being removed? I mean I can go and remove it right now, but what argument do I need to use to back it up?

Aphoticamy

100% correct, there is a war going on for your/my/everybody's mind

LibTearsNoBrakes

MAGABOOMER Just confirmed it is podesta in the vid.

"Someone has also altered the sound. I finally listened to the "proof" today. SRSLY? It's not just "cleaned up" someone with a pro mixer altered the sound, and actually input John."

That is soo stupid.

Thanks for clearing that up Detective.

I never understood why all these rich white people listened to such shitty music. Now it makes sense. Its to drown out the screams.Theres actually 2 live shows going on. Awesome.

At this point I hope the devil does exist. Because if not than that means our species best and brightest are just a bunch of delusional morons dancing around and raping babies.

Ronnilynn31

Please come take a look at this thread that keeps getting pushed down https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1656490

uberthoth

I'd like to point out that the earliest available revision (the older are stricken) has the 'debunked' wording in it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory&oldid=752256533

you can view this in the history: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory&dir=prev&action=history

and see which exact user made that edit "Ian Thomson" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ian.thomson

eyeVoated

Yes, anyone can edit a page, until/unless it's been locked. Anyone can dispute the validity of a page as well. There are discussion pages for controversial topics/entries. But as you can imagine, when the topic gets heated, there will be only one winner. Which side do you think wickedpedoa will take?

phlux

We need to pivot to making this #DeepGate: exposing all aspects of the deep state(globally)

I_have_my_gun_ready

I thought someone should change the pizzagate story and add a like to this page as a source, but when I tried to edit it. It said THE PAGE IS LOCKED TO PREVENT VANDALSIM!

justice4kidz

yes, agreed. it's so backwards. we are the ones called CRAZY, but these pedophiles who actually rape babies, blatantly, don't get a second look. THIS WORLD IS UPSIDE DOWN. I have lost a "friend" or 2 over pizzagate because they just cannot look at it. they refuse to look. they refuse to believe this level of evil can even occur. much less, from those in power.

I_have_my_gun_ready

My family think I'm crazy and my mom won't even talk about.

justice4kidz

yes, it's propaganda. feel bad for Brittany Pettibone, David Seaman, and Mike Cernovich. their names are all on the wikipedia page. nothing has been debunked. can they tell us what handkerchief map that is pizza-related means? and why they bring kids to comet pizza at 10pm for "all ages" shows with Sex Stains playing and Heavy Breathing? so many dots and connections!

PizzaStreamerLive

Thanks man. Needed that info. Have an updoot...

dmthirdeye

Just want everyone to stop for a moment and really think about how much work we have done and how much progress we have truly made as a community.... despite what it feels like sometimes when we can't get a Wiki or television to confirm what we already all know now to be true. I've been getting slightly bothered or agitated lately by how much deflection and ignorance is flying around across all the social networks due to pedos, and paid shills infiltrating all the pizzagate groups to try to defend themselves. However the more I started thinking about it the more it made me feel really good actually. I mean take a second and imagine what these sick bastards are thinking right now, and how they have to feel sitting here watching us break down everything, their code, their fronts, their whole plan, we have new leads everyday. They have to sit here and try to argue against the truth, while we break apart their false sense of security and their power trip. They fucked up, they got cocky... started advertising, heck they even took it worldwide. But they got lazy, and sloppy, and their web got too large to hide with the way the internet has evolved, so... I guess what I'm saying is be patient, YES its been too long already but we are finally making real progress, tons of arrests happening every day and I really truly feel like we the people are a massive reason why. There has always been pedophilia but covering it up has always been no problem because people just simply don't want to talk about this stuff because its hard. What happens when we all crowdsource our information educate ourselves on topics and share that information together? You simply can't stop the truth especially when we are united for a cause like stopping pedos, strength in numbers guys all we gotta do is stand up and their little game is over. YES there are a very large % of D.C. and Hollywood that are pedophiles however even in the hundreds of thousands we still outnumber them by hundreds of MILLIONS, the only difference being we were not UNITED before this. PIzzagate actually brought us together and helped people cross lines that would normally divide us, race, age, class all of peoples normal everyday biased just got tossed aside for the greater good of saving childrens lives which is just fucking incredible btw guys, dont sell yourself short on spreading awareness. We all deserve a pat on the back, its far from over but remember to use the frustration as motivation and fuel to continue in our quest to save our children.

SaneGoatiSwear

you and @dfrog

call it what it is. shine the light of truth

don't use memeology and their neurolinguistic programming, just speak plain truth

let the truth wash over us like the stink of all our trash become clear and undeniable.

it's not "pizzagate," its:

squidicuz

🍕 🐍 🔥 🐲 🐸

beepinboopin

And the two citations next to "debunked"? NYT and Snopes. LOL.

wrok-wrok

They need that word to be the first thing people see when they google "PizzaGate"

meowski

Well shit. I guess we can let Joe Biden babysit our kids again.

PizzaDestroyer

It is about as weird as Jimmy Wales starting his online career in porn and the snopes founder marrying a prostitute who used to be paid with snopes.com company money. I still think Wikipedia is a great idea and a good site for the most part, but I am no longer making contributions to Jimmy.

anon_sense

Yea I got ya. Though James Alefantis (though most probably a lower-rung fall guy) is obviously connected via Comet. Pedogate is much more accurate. But yeah, semantics. Let's just get these absolute abhorrent humans taken out of society, and far far away from our children. Onward!

Blacksmith21

We all know that MK ULTRA/MONARCH was splintered into what was rumored to be 100+ compartmentalized programs. I'm pretty confident one of the programs was specializing in this type of subliminal messaging and neurolinguistic programming and Pavlovian responses. And that's just the basic tools. For those not familiar, or are new here, this is a good primer: http://vigilantcitizen.com/hidden-knowledge/origins-and-techniques-of-monarch-mind-control/

Those types of programming methods are substantially more effective when the brain enters a beta state (biorhythm) or 30 minutes of continuous TV watching. There are patents from known DARPA scientists for delivering ELF pulses through computer displays specifically for the purpose of manipulating brain waves. These are all valid patents: http://rense.com/general3/patent.htm

There is a reason why the industry "created a self-imposed ban". I doubt they ever did. It is way too powerful of a tool not to put it to use.

This was the early 1960s. Think what they can do now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wofs8ZpcXlM

Edit 1: Just up on VL: http://victuruslibertas.com/2017/01/how-you-are-mind-controlled-everyday/

anon_sense

I thought the word came from the "pizza"/food related words in the Podesta emails...that started the movement that lead to the discovery of the pedo ring.

SmilingWide

It just doesn't work when you DEBUNK the conspiracy, before the conspiracy is even known to the people. LMFAO.

SmilingWide

Anything they delete, you should investigate twice as hard.

Dasistnichtgut

Extra big thumbs up to this. I started digging around the net about the Etan Patz case from the 70s bc, well, something just struck me as odd about it and worth looking into re: pizzagate. Dad was a photagrapher in weird, "arty" SoHo. Mom ran a small daycare. Disappeared the very first day they let him walk to the school bus by himself but it was at the end of the school year which just seems strange to choose to do that then, esp for a 6 yr old. Lots of strange things point to the parents but they were very quickly dismissed as suspects. Very strange. Then one guy gets pegged for it. A detective on the case commits suicide. People involved are politically linked as high up as Sec of State. Then another guy they are "sure" of gets pegged decades later. It's very strange, though, that no one talks about the parents or the weird circumstances. Try an Internet search. If anyone has discussed how they are suspicious I can't find it. Which by itself is very very odd in the whole of the universe of the Internet where theories about all kinds of crazy crap abound. It's like it's been scrubbed. Very strange. Anyway, I posted twice here. Within 20 minutes the upvoats were disappearing and the thread very very quickly dissolved into nothing. This post may, as well. But that makes it all the more suspicious to me. Just wish I could do more with it. :/

abortionburger

It's locked I think.

bFuddlez

It is. The article can't be revised. Apparently to prevent vandalism but we all know that's bullshit.

eyeVoated

Amazing. Fucking pedo enablers.

lexliberuniversum

There is a documentary about the "dark side of wikipedia"... sadly, there is only a german version as far as i know. Maybe there are some "German" investigators here :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHfiCX_YdgA&t=3s

Mommyplayer571

Pedogate is what they are afraid of. We can unite in this. Normal people know it's wrong. https://youtu.be/JPYUWx0XyzU

Docta_pizza

This, sadly, is one of the reasons I chose not to donate to wikipedia in their last round of fundraising, as I had the previous several years. I never really thought of Wikipedia as being a biased, liberal-controlled, censored place before that, so I kind of had my eyes opened up a little bit. Then I figured I'd donate to wikileaks instead, but it seems like they're not really that trustworthy anymore either. :( Sad times, friends.

TockTeal

Not at all. Wikipedia is a heavily biased liberal stronghold. Use Infogalactic instead.

PDragonfly

Wikipedia has gone so far as to ban RA/MC researchers and advocates like Neil Brick and Ellen Lacter. It cannot be trusted as a source on extreme abuse or elite trafficking.

RebelSkum

samhara

Pretty much sure that that's all they got to refute it.. Just a statement that it is refuted.. lol

dFrog

Spot on with this. That kind of neurolinguistic programming is at the heart of propaganda. Honestly, that's why I don't like the word "pizzagate," aside from the fact that the "-gate" thing is tired as all hell. When you get away from words like that and instead be more specific, it makes it harder for people to engage Dismiss.exe so quickly.

Sure, they'll dismiss anyway, but the internal tension adds up when they're hit with more detail and specifics rather than just made up words.

I'm trying to upvote you but it's not working.

HashTagFU

How about "child-fucker-gate". No way to mis-associated or conflate that.

SmilingWide

Pizza is the #1 food in the country. It has an almost universal positive connotation to it. The psychological power of pizza is far greater than you give it credit for.

fuspezza

What if because of that power pizza possesses that pedo's bribe and buy favors from victims as in do this for me don't tell no one and after you can have some PIZZA. The word must of gotten out that some innocent children , especially the mistreated and malnourished, can get their morals subverted simply by mentioning PIZZA.

phlux

We should test all meats from any "pizzagate" associated place, to determine what type of organism they are made from

anon_sense

Definitely agree with most of what you and OP are saying, however while I know a lot of people don't like the word "pizzagate", I think the opposite. Yes it may be tired, and a microcosm of the whole sordid mess (i.e. Not limited to a DC pizza shop), BUT it is catchy, and it starts people off on the correct path. With just cursory examination into it beyond what the MSM spews as being "debunked", it quickly becomes obvious that it runs so much deeper. In short, "pizzagate" is effective shorthand to get people to swallow that red pill.

ASolo

It is no wonder.

Jimmy Wales, co-founder of Wikipedia, started out as Bomis, a dot-com company best known for supporting the creations of free-content online-encyclopedia projects like Nupedia and Wikipedia, was one of the FIRST pornographers on the internet, where he had a section of Bomis that:

"Focused on X-rated and erotic media. About ten percent of Bomis' revenue was derived from pornographic films and blogs. The website included a segment devoted to erotic images, "Bomis Babes", and a feature enabled users to submit recommended links to other sites appealing to a male audience. Peer-to-peer services provided by the site helped users find other websites about female celebrities, including Anna Kournikova and Pamela Anderson.In the Bomis Babes section was the Bomis Babe Report, begun in 2000, with pictures of porn stars in a blog format.The Bomis Babe Report produced original erotic material, including reports on pornographic film actors and celebrities who had posed nude. It was referred to as The Babe Report for short. -Wiki

What happens to be quite peculiar about this is that Wikipedia's founder Jimmy Wales Bomis was centered near another one of the 'fact checkers' and accredited institutes involved in this episode, The Poynter Institute, which is located in the warm and inviting western shores of Florida in Tampa and St. Petersburg, where scantily clad spring breakers would flock to in spring and year round easily coerced into showing their goodies for the camera.

Wales and people like Mikkelson were the original Trolls of the burgeoning internet and the creators behind underground network sites with certain access codes the evolution of that is what kept organizations like Snopes.com going.

"Snopes would implant software on peoples computers would would then bring in these pornography sites from an operation in Kirkland, Washington, israeli linked, which were later bought out by people from India. As I (Yoichi) tracked Snopes down to Panama, which traced back to Kirkland to a company called eNom, THEY CONTROL 1/5 OF THE WORLD'S DOMAIN NAMES, this is where all the drug dealing and child porn is being disseminated from. What this has evolved into, now, is that when you get these images of pornography it is also coming with images of a little pill, the so called 'canadian meds' market, this is how they sell viagra, cialis, but also ketamine and methamphetamine and the various mixes in there, coming from various factories in India and Asia somewhere, to Canada, and then they are shipped out across the border and into the United States, so this is a multibillion dollar industry. And this mixing of illicit substances with the sex drug is accounting for alot of this deviant sex stuff and Satanism, people are going nuts and become psychotic. The combination of these two drugs are turning people into satanists, they murder, they strangle, they get indoctrinated into these satanic groups, get elevated, and that's where things start getting very bizarre. We are seeing an EXPLOSION in these satanic groups with the pornography and drugs combined."

Media 'Fact Checkers' Snopes, Wikipedia; Mk-Ultra and Hardcore Porn

http://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-721416.html

dFrog

Yeah, it's "weird" in that special way where it actually isn't weird at all because it's exactly the kind of nonsense we've come to expect.

samhara

Right. If you know it's real , that will explain their behavior.

Rmm

yes i said that to my family back in november!

Gorillion

Wikipedo.

LostandFound

Want to see something else strange look at the revision history for this 'debunked' item.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory&offset=&limit=500&action=history

Lot of history for a non event

MAGAbabe

So much revision for a debunked conspiracy theory. Never seen anything like it.

LostandFound

Work your way through the references all the way down, buzzwire, NYT BBC etc. over and over. Its literally the most worthless piece of crap on the internet, its the lovechild of the pedo protectors.

squidicuz

This is not the wiki you are looking for 🍰

LostandFound

Blue pills nom nom nom

squidicuz

Take two placebos, 💊

ben_matlock

Holy crap!

DICKFART_

laughable, Im never donating again.

sponiatowski

I heard debunked. I accepted debunked. And then arrest after arrest happened. Roseanne tweeted "wake up America". I woke up. PizzaGate may have been debunked, but the case wasn't closed. Now, it's PedoGate / PizzaGate. I can live with that. But it's not debunked. Evidence mounts. Thanks to you guys.

SmilingWide

"PizzaGate may have been debunked,"

No, it wasn't.

turitelle

Never believe what the mass media says when they start hammering on something. If every msm newspaper, TV and radio station starts hysterically screaming the same thing over and over you know its propaganda. Other good examples of this was the "weapons of mass destruction" meme before they started bombing Iraq. Another is the current "Russia hacked the election". They brainwash through repetition and group think but they never give any real proof.

Good on you for waking up, and they won't be able to fool you again. :-)

micha_

Not sure, if he only was activated because of Roseanne's tweet...

ASolo

Rosanne needs to start pumping this material out hard, she has the power to get this message to a demographic that is largely ignored by the media, baby boomer era children who are done raising their families and have plenty of extra time to help change the world (that know their being conned and don't give a crap about mainstream news.)

HMU Rosanne, I can help.

reasonedandinformed

I prefer the term pedogate. It allows us to bring in the fact about daily pedo busts that the media is actively hiding...truth that they will not expose. This can be eye-opening as it is a provable fact that is not easily explained and which does not cause immediate dismissal due to the false debunking (Pavlovian response to pizzagate) or the cognitive dissonance that is involved when exposed to the truth of pizzagate. Bringing up massive arrests of pedo rings involving child sex slaves...and showing that the media refuses to cover it...can be the best way to red pill people. No one can claim that it is not newsworthy or important.

Thrulkggls

It will be interesting to see how they backpedal or deny it when all of the dominoes fall...

AreWeSure

What are the conspiracies you need to believe in order to believe pizzagate? Do you have to believe the Moon Landing is Fake?

samhara

Naturally every "event" / crime / hoax stands on its own. But if you study a few you start to know you need to look and you see a pattern. They love to hoax. They love to mock.. Same goofers / jerks at the top of the pyramid pulling various scams.

reasonedandinformed

Not weird...actually, consistent...more evidence of their active cover up of the truth. The more they try to hide, the more we know that we are looking into the right leads.

madhatter67

It's like this AI that these people like so much....Didn't figure it might be put against a big neural network of actual human neurons!

Aged

Because the editor who put that word there put it as a political statement. Is a way of saying "all Republicans are lunatics". Because deep inside his/her/its heart that Wikipedia user thinks all Republicans are idiots and all Democrats are geniuses.

madhatter67

But people aren't quite as stupid as they believe....And they aren't half as smart as they think they are

samhara

"High IQ idiots" "Educated fools" Neglect to think or explore because the already know.

Arrogance

Explanation of "Roger Rabbit" moments, brought on by listening to the "News" and thinking it's real and they are telling you the truth

Battling the Matrix and Freeing Oneself from the Roger Rabbit Mental World http://www.unz.com/article/battling-the-matrix-and-freeing-oneself-from-the-roger-rabbit-mental-world/

Orange_Circle

It was weird that they started calling it debunked by like day two.

SmilingWide

Was it literally Day Two? It certainly felt like it when Snopes called it Debunked, before 99% of the population even heard of it.

TheSeer

People who investigate child sex trafficking end up dead. What more proof could one possibly need? Oh, mainstream media censorship? Well, we've got that in spades too!

People say "Evidence, show me evidence". Yeah well, the thing with conspiracy research is anyone can allege whatever they want, its when you CAN PROVE what you are saying that your life is in danger... As Andrew Breitbart, Dave McGowan, Aaron Swartz and Monica Petersen found out (Max Spiers too).

Devious1

Fake news, local police dept couldn't prove it was debunked. It's all bullshit. One you tuber sent a FOI request to local pd dept. Ended up going to high court, unfortunately my history of that thread has been deleted by mods.

Edit found jewtube vid and FOI requests

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qCY7xg3gsYY

thelandofchocolate

Doesn't wikipedia have a policy against weasel words?

eyeVoated

Sure, when it serves their agenda

parrydocks

tenacious is how they guard their lies as evident with the implementation of "Extended confirmed protection"

juhos

Saying "fake news" or "it's debunked" IS NOT DEBUNKING. If for example weird Podesta emails are just "coincidence", he could explain it easily. But he doesn't. Not a single fucking thing is explained. Innocent people simply doesn't act that way.

micha_

And if he could explain it easily, especially CNN (Clinton News Network) would have asked him already and megaphoned the explanation into the world - they prefer to ignore it, that the campaign manager of their beloved Hillary uses code language and do not want to know from him, what it means.

Also interesting: these humanity lovers are not interested at all, that Tamera Luzzatto send three children to Podesta into the pool for his entertainment!

Just from their behaviour it becomes OBVIOUS, that pizzagate is real. Sadly very real.

2BuckChuck

Yeah, by snopes and the NY times. Snopes "debunked" Eric Braverman being missing, by saying a tweet was sent out from his acct. Voila. No more missing person. They (no verification or validation) are no longer missing because of a tweet. Note to kidnappers: use your victims twitter acct to say "all is well, just chilling w my homies". The FBI will immediately stop searching. That's how valid Snopes is, as are the people who trust in it. The NY Times did no better a job in actually debunking the story, they just claimed it to be false. Voila, deux.

madhatter67

It's interesting....Debunker is kind of held as a badge of honour by some people.....You never get to understand the world if all you do is waste energy debunking to protect your belief systems

eyeVoated

Their citations for "debunked" include Snopes and a Newspaper. Lol

bFuddlez

I like how the entire mainstream media establishment has been listed as 'debunkers.'

"The conspiracy theory has been widely discredited and debunked. It has been described as false by the fact-checking website snopes.com and The New York Times. Other criticisms of the conspiracy theory came from the New York Observer, The Washington Post, The Independent in London, The Huffington Post, The Washington Times, Los Angeles Times, Fox News and the Miami Herald. The Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia characterized the matter as "fictitious"."

It's totally hilarious that this list is comprised of the most dishonest news outlets in the country and that we're expected to believe their 'journalism.' What a joke.

eyeVoated

Meanwhile NYPD has been openly investigating the issue. Someone should just put that on the page. The editors on wickedpedoa would be hard pressed to explain that censorship.

bFuddlez

The article is locked. User revision has been prevented. Their reason being potential vandalism. But aren't all Wikipedia articles vulnerable to vandalism? That's the nature of a Wiki; they rely on user-contributed information. Wikipedia is no longer a wiki.

eyeVoated

When I was naive to dark forces, I wondered how those places survived. Now I know they don't. Like Reddit and Voat. Everything in nature has a lifespan. Wikipedia and Reddit are past their expiration dates, and Voat is on life-support (at best). Only the enlightened can know truth along the path of dharma. The rest are hopelessly wandering through the wastelands of misinformation and will never realize that they are living in a world of karmic fiction and misinformation. So whose fault is it that Wikipedia is a corpse followed by the unbegun masses of unconscious consumers? It's theirs, but I still try to shake them awake from their sleep paralysis. That is why most of us are here, shills aside.

remedy4reality

Snopes debunk on PG was written by an Alefantis friend and dildo reviewer.

Disgusted-Lurker

I had a friend send me the Snopes "debunking" and that was the end of discussion as far as he was concerned.

I know he didn't read any of the basic facts I presented and I'm pretty certain he never even read the Snopes article.

People are just plain brainwahed and intellectually lazy...

Snow1

Help rid Voat of that very Intellectual Laziness! Point out Fallacy and Disinformation Tactics on Voat Today! Simply Purpletext the specific fallacy under the comment containing it!

anon_sense

If you think about it, Snopes has done a master job of portraying itself as being "factual"/"objective" when it is anything but. It's a branding masterpiece. Before I came across the Podesta emails in Oct last year I completely believed Snopes - without question.

Melitica

Interesting that they used to have display ads...but since they are an "official " source...now they don't.

No one bothers to winder how they are paying the bills.

cyks

Snopes has done a master job of portraying itself as being "factual"/"objective"

You are massively overestimating. Nobody even knows what it is besides reddit and digg.

Melitica

Not true. Every liberal I know cites it constantly.

SmilingWide

You should end all ties with that retard.

Disgusted-Lurker

I haven't spoken to him since. Same with another friend.

Maybe one day we can mend fences, but I don't need anybody in my life right now like that.

SmilingWide

We always hope for the best, but the sad truth is that most people are brainwashed zombies.

n0etics

But we're in an age of enlightenment! The internet has brought truth to us at the click of a button! -s-

listentoreason2017

The irony of this statement is lost on no one I'm sure.

n0etics

-s- (meaning sarcasm)

gangpressorliber

Snopes has been debunked.

micha_

LOL.

eyeVoated

Yes, the wiki is run by pedofiles.

redditsuckz

Wikipedia Editing Courses Launched by Zionist Propaganda Machine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIYhE-hei2Y

Beaucephus

Pretty sure everyone on this board is here (aside from the shills) because they found it weird.

pizzaequalspedo

Especially considering there is absolutely ZERO evidence that debunks it either

fetuspizza

It's an open investigation, so to say it's fake or debunked, is kind of dumb. Almost too obvious they're trying to bury it.

bopper

Haha, yeah.

ArthurEdens

Nor do they say how it was debunked

ArthurEdens

pretty much

madhatter67

Yep....That's debunked it.....

Usually that works sadly

2impendingdoom

nobody gets arrested if the moon landing is fake, but pizzagate, that could lead to prison overcrowding.

SaveTheChildren

People are so jaded right now, when I show them evidence that NASA is faking all sorts of shit their response is 'who cares'.

/v/NASALies

Dasistnichtgut

Just bc its sort of interesting.... The guy who wrote the law establishing NASA eventually became Secretary of State after working in the defense dept. Cyrus Vance.

And his son (vance jr.) eventually worked on the Etan Patz disappearance case as an atty. The very very fishy case that no one looks into. He and podesta both went to Georgetown a few years apart.

TheSeer

Actually child molestors are treated VERY harshly by other inmates, so a prison sentence is almost a death sentence in the minds of the perps.

2impendingdoom

"Jailyard justice." I've heard that they are kept separately for their own protection.

madhatter67

Well up until now if you were rich and connected enough like that Dupont guy....You could rape your kids and not even go to jail because you might not fare well!

BarryOSeven

As weird as the old/fake media calling it debunked without any debunking being done.

LincolnsMullet

The best way I've found to talk about this with people who already believe its "debunked" is to link to a real article having to do with pedophilia and/or trafficking arrests. You have to make the connection between the pizzagate investigation and actual crimes in order to break that wall down for them. I wouldn't waste time with single person incidents, those are a dime a dozen unfortunately, but the bigger ones that net dozens of people or having to do with an institution like the adoption centers or Pentagon, etc

micha_

I agree. It's absolutely stunning to observe, that epople are totally incapable to make connections on their own, think on their own - but if you offer them a mainstream article with the words pedophilia, child, rape, torture and then feed them pizzagate, they are interested.

But if you only tell them a few facts - no chance.

Norm85

This is a good tactic.

In Australia we have a Royal Commission into institutional abuse. I think everyone knew there were a few incidents here and there, but the sheer level of systemic abuse and coverup (particularly in the Catholic organisations) would have been hard to believe without the volume of evidence that has been collected.

User890020

This is the most sickening part: guilty apologists