I am not buying this crap. In sixty years my gut feelings have never led me wrong...and not now either. Feels like a diversion to me. Should have mentioned that I am a retired police lieutenant.

I'm not so sure most of it is clandestined. There have been links to abortion clinics as supply agents requiring the fetus to be over 3 months of age, and people who donate their dead body to science as experimentation, but those posts get deleted here.

Years ago the protest against planned parent abortion clinics was over fetus trafficking.

An article was deleted on this forum that described shipment arrangements of powdered body tissue confiscated from China to another Asian country. The amount of bodies needed to dehydrate into powder to supply the amount of on-going shipments was staggering.

I don't think fresh organ donations are very common. Most of us westerners prefer to keep our organs. Finding the right match, or finding someone who will donate who is the right match, can put a persons health at risk.

Costs usually appear to be absorbed through different avenues.

I have to say that when the (alleged) Podesta abuse vids came out, I thought George was a little too vehement in his assertion that it was not Podesta in the video. His tone sounded almost irritated or anxious/defensive. It seemed really odd to me. That said, I dont think he would keep harping on the 650k emails being released if he were not legit, but I do find some things about him and his info quite off sometimes, such as, where the heck are all these organs going? There should be no shortage of organs if all these people are being harvested. Idk, I'm just taking everything with a grain of salt.

OK, thanks for bringing this up, I feel the following is relevant to the discussion. I too went away from the Robert David Steele interview not impressed. The whole worthy piece I got out of it were the Saudi restaurants selling children off the menu, which he then said he couldn't confirm actually existed. He really lost me when he brought up Jesse Ventura. And, he hardly mentioned anything to do with PizzaGate, he just kept wanting to push his "round-table" with Trump plan. But, one of the biggest things that stuck out for me was the statement about Pence. I had just listened to another interview the other day from Dave Hodge on The Common Sense Show and the reasoning between Steele and this other guy was contradicting. In the Hodge interview the intel is that Pence caught Flynn in a lie about not knowing someone on this supposed pedo list that is going around and that Pence, in fact, knew Flynn did know someone on the list and that is probably why he was asked to resign, because they caught him lying. Now, in the Steele narrative, Flynn is the good guy and he gets canned because HE has the list and Pence doesn't like his buddy being on it. So, it seems like somewhere along the line the story got mixed up. You know, like when you sit in a circle and tell something from one person to the next and see how much it changes when it gets all the way around? Somewhere it seems someone isn't getting the story straight. Here is the interview with the "other" Flynn/Pence explanation:

Start 3:25 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwxRXoc6Y0o

You can kill someone for free with your bear hands and sell the kidney for up to 200,000 dollars. It is very profitable. Armyseer is full of shit, as always.

74 comments but only 11 upvotes? not on the hot page?

Yeah, Steele is a disinfo specialist. Don't trust him at all as he pushes the narrative by controlling it with lies.

I agree with your opinions about steel. I did it find him believable. He contradicted himself several times. And I did not like how he bad mouthed trump and then said he was supporting trump. Maybe he is just trying to sell his book, but I was not convinced.

I'm on the fence on GW. So all these observations help, I agree with something not being right, and falcon's post on honeypots.

Can someone pls tell me why he deleted 3 of the five short POL vids?? Ru12 has two of them , but it was curious, because a) his originals had a commenter saying all his vids were 5 days old, going first thru WL then being uploaded, 2) another poster said the POL vids weren't proof, the events he gave were general, things happening all the time, and someone said 'lets see what day he mentions Flynn resigning.'. 3) a person concerned asked him to put a COUGH in comments if he was compromised, and he did. Then someone commented that it wasn't funny. ALL those above comments are gone with the vids! Most never noticed the lapse in POL events, but a few asked why they showed now 'deleted by user'. No response. I guess it all can be explained away by his radio interviews the last couple days. But WHY delete those vids? He did say on the one from day 114 that he was going to quit doing them, but that one is gone too. I also DID wonder how he supports himself these days.

I'm not so sure about this guy....basically his mission appears to be come here and attack George Webb and RDS...where have we seen that in the last 24 hours? (David Seaman).....I think we can all agree that George Webb's stuff is pretty well sourced+there are a whole lot of anons leaking info that is pretty parallel info that also parallels current events.

Here is the statement that threw me off with this guy ** " The whole organ trafficking nonsense is a psy-op."**** This statement is demonstrably false and can be refuted by multiple sources that have nothing to do with George Webb. Further, sometimes it is helpful to take a step back and apply truisms.

Follow the money is the truism I'm thinking of....and organ trafficking dovetails nicely with all of this, and that is where the real money is. Drug running by the CIA is well documented..anybody think they wouldn't cross the line into human trafficking?

I wish Webb would site all his sources, but killing IS good business.

War profiteering is the reason the US has been in never-ending war since decades and decades.

They sell arms, they get lithium and drugs from afghanistan region, they install their own people to re-build and make money of it. There is huge money in organ trafficking. The chinese don't think they're eating bodies, they believe they're taking medicine.

This is why it's a corporate governance - think Haliburton.

I hate to continuously plug Governor Ventura's books and vids, and I wish he'd contact me to give me a cut in revenue because I could use the extra $, but he explains it all in absolute truth. His books have more truth than I've seen under one author.

good, you seem to be more caught up with webb than me, this post was mainly about RDS as i know more about him. I think organ trafficking happens but its much more of a problem in asia not the usa

There is no ex-CIA. There is current CIA and dead CIA.

What about Steve Pieczenik? He was super vocal up to the election. Ex CIA also.

Excellent OP. I agree that both should be looked at critically.

I have watched most of Webb's videos and have always assumed he puts info out a little at a time for his own saftey. He has mentioned his involvement in many past events, flippantly which is odd to me. Such as Franklin scandal.

He also flippantly mentioned he was meeting with Oliver Stone on a few occassions.

The way I look at it, his video's are data points to consider, but always with skeptism

Titus Frost is really good

Many people have called pizzagate a distraction / honeypot, but it's pretty much the only thing that is pure and real in origin, everything we know about it came from seeing someones secrets, the podesta emails, no honeypot, they didn't want us to see those. Everything else, there's a lot of conjecture, hypothesis, overly conveniently provided info, or disinformation. I trust that the emails are real, much of what's come after that, well a lot of people trying to profit from it, no doubt.

My personal practice is to read/listen to as many liars as possible, because the good liars always tell mostly truth so they can't be disproved easily. Then just sift the wheat from the chaff (personal interest angle). Everybody will have a personal prejudice of some sort. Then try to see how all the little nuggets of truth fit together. It's a huge complicated mess, but eventually the pieces of the whole picture start to come into focus.

I am quite paranoid and don't take these issues lightly. But Steele is right to emphasize we must trust Trump. George Webb said some bad things about Trump, that isn't helping the cause. Are you helping the cause with this thread? Think about it. Boppers thread earlier got me thinking. We are influencing each other in the VOAT "hive"

Has George Webb ever mentioned the movie The Whistleblower?

Steele wants full support behind Trump. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN1PShWvO5U&feature=youtu.be

I would not be surprised if Pence protected his friend by throwing Flynn under the bus.

I would not be surprised if Flynn's friend is a big pedo (as Steele said) and THAT is what their protecting the exposure of here.

So they'll throw J Podesta as a sacrificial goat, because who on the Conservative teams gives a rats butt about that terd.

I've seen loyalties with friends in all sorts of jobs and companies -- especially with doctors and nurses.
so I would not be surprised to see the same scenario in politicians, especially if it could expose his buddy as a pedo.

Remember project flicker was dumped with big names not mentioned? They protected the big names then and I think you are way to patriotic to the politician if you think they aren't trying to do the same thing with this.

Has global shit not taught you to be patriotic to the citizens and not to a person?

Franklin Scandal was the same thing, as these perps protected each other while detouring pedofilia SO IT COULD BE PROTECTED AND CONTINUE ON.

and it has continued on with global tentacles.

Where did this George Webb guy come from? Does he have previous work he was doing that can be seen? I have no idea what to make of this guy but I also have not spent enough time looking into him.

Your comment in regards to Trump....."but we know he is not " That's a bold statement. Honestly, we don't know shit right now. Yeah you can believe he's not and maybe he isn't but you don't know. I'm just trying to be as logical as possible .

Edit: I have not come across anything dealing with pizzagate and Trump besides him and his connection with Epstein which makes me scratch my head.

"who probably claimed asylum in russia".......Yeah, that was a hoax.

Strike 1.

How would i define a honeypot - someone who goes along with the narratives of this "movement" but attempts to sway the citizen investigators away from the actual truth onto plausible made up ones, stalling the investigation etc.

That's called disinformation, or black propaganda, not a honeypot. A honeypot is a method of tempting people into a situation where they can be identified or where they incriminate themselves, etc.

Why are all these high profile leakers still alive and well and kicking?? When poor Michael Hastings was droned for much less.