I did not say it was all a big misunderstanding. You're reading way past the intent of my posting.

I simply said that this particular iconic picture that has been passed around as "proof" of something may not appear as solid as I once perceived it was.

I shared this as a reminder that as dougG said best "We have to accept when a piece of pizza is just a pizza."

Whatever the truth is must be brought to light, past and potential victims protected and the proper people vindicated of any wrong-doing, if there was none.

I am not suggesting the ANYONE is innocent or guilty of anything.

I'm just reminding both myself and others, that if we are really here to determine the truth of something, the truth must flow both ways.

As to your comments toward me, I'll take them as a reflection of how horrible this PG info really is. I have been as upset as you -- but please don't shoot the messenger.

I wasn't addressing the entirety of PG or trying to acquit or accuse anyone. I was addressing that particular picture that has been tossed around without context, that has been literally used to say nearly anything, and I'm concerned that it just may not be saying what people are saying about it.

Garbage in -- Garbage out.

I'm not going to debate the entirety of PG with you. My post was about ONE purported fact that is being used awfully liberally and it may not be too fair to do so, unless someone can offer some facts specifically related to it, that cast it in a more nefarious light.

Seeking the truth ought to be a strong motive of anyone that is here. I've explained myself quite liberally.

Confirmation bias is a terrible thing.

I don't deny the whole matter is extremely ugly, but that picture has been spread over and over again an ascribed all sorts of nefarious meanings. I've merely asked for someone to explain to me why?

It is pretty sad that even the mods don't deal with the question.

Truthseekers look for the truth WHATEVER it is. Inconvenient or not.

My opinion is that TP is a slimy person, but if a picture such as that is used to smear someone/ANYONE and it has a rational explanation, I and anyone else would be an epic a-hole for falsely accusing someone/anyone around it.

WHATEVER "evidence" we have better be less flimsy that what any random person says about it on the internet.

Else, this truly does become a witch-hunt and a book burning party.

I'm still waiting for SOMEONE / ANYONE here to merely state "Yeah...you know, maybe we DID get that wrong."

If we don't have the courage to see what is True -- WHATEVER it is and WHEREVER it leads, WE, ourselves, become guilty of quite immoral acts.

That picture appears awfully innocent in it's broader context. Why anyone would even fight my original point is scary to me.

Who then would be guilty of spreading disinformation?

At this point, everyone is so hyped up that even things true scary.

Someone once said to me "You can't talk through someone else's emotions."

If I or anyone here are blinded by emotions, to such a degree that we can't address even the simplest of facts without skewering each other, that's pretty sad.

"Look, there's a kitten!" "No, that's no kitten, some guy said it is a baby walrus and I agree, because so many other people said it and they said it passionately. "Yeah. but what if it is just a kitten? What if it isn't a Walrus."

...then the name calling and subtle-shaming begins.

Even someone new to a party can tell if the toilet is over-flowing or the house in on fire.

I'm neither new to Voat or to Pizzagate. I have had several other accounts that because they were throwaways, I never wrote down the passwords. I only created this account, in direct relation to having been drawn to Podesta's Twitter account, due to only brand new postings about Podesta's Twitter account that were on Voat yesterday.

I made a new account, because I couldn't remember the throwaway account passwords and there is no way of recovering them.

If anyone reads anything more into everything I have said here that is the 100% truth, you have crossed over in fantasy and not into the truth.

Challenge: Someone prove that I'm a liar.

In this case, you simply can't. I'm speaking the truth, and Voat better be a Moat of truth when we're are confronting issues as serious as PG, and with just that one fact I questioned, I can see that the bias is to shoot the messenger, and not address the facts.

First time i ever agreed with the mods. 👍

If we are to accept he believes in magic....And I personally do..... Symbology that works on many levels is especially powerful....And the hiding in plain sight thing ..... I don't for one minute think Skippy was only thinking of the oceans when that photo was taken

Either way fukishima is killing the ocean. Talk about long term sustainability.

Aren't the comments just a circle jerk?

The comments don't prove anything about that picture...they just throw flames.

I'm getting heated up over this. That picture has been flying around amidst all the other chaos and dark shit and I sort of fell for how it was offered in the past.

I mean, seriously, what if it just means exactly what it was purported to mean?

If THAT was so misrepresented, what else have I actually fallen for that wasn't as real as it seemed.

I'm quite entrenched in Pizzagate study, but it throws me for a big loop to see that this one iconic fact may not be anything close to a fact at all.

If it was just life in the ocean as number 14 there would be no reason to make a picture with 14 in one hand and a fish in the other. But if 14 and fish means something else, then you get a motivation for making this picture. To show other people who knows the meaning of 14 and fish : Hey guys, what a coincidence, life in the ocean ( fish ) as number 14.

No one is hanging pedosta over one image. Because it could be nothing, but it's something to look into as it can add to the overall story

i think this is correct. We read too much into a lot of this stuff. If any of it is real and we think most of it is, then its up to law enforcement to put together a case. we can only put the information out there but you are correct to look at it a second time and question.

Might have had a double meaning to it, but the first comment on the Tweet was LOL-worthy. Seems you don't need to yell about saving the oceans to come off as rather...fishy.

I'll see myself out.

I'm inclined to think it means just what he said it meant on Twitter. If you review his Twitter, he has many posts about the environment. Something he may actually care about.

The Tweet itself has text that describes what the pic says and it was from over 2 years ago.

If this picture was so misjudged, I'm a bit scared to think of the other things I may have been potentially gullible about.

Does anyone have any evidence to suggest that, that picture doesn't simply mean exactly what it is represented to mean?

He drew a 14 and a Fish as a representation of Sustainable Development Goal Number 14 -- Save the Oceans.

I feel like an idiot for falling for whoever worked me up over that pic.