So you just assumed that of me. And you're telling me to do more research. The Bible tells me all that I need to know. It's foolish to think people who reject God and live their entire lives in unrepentant sin won't pay for it. So none of the evil committed by man on earth matters? If there's no hell, why don't people just do whatever they want? What's the point of trying to do good if in the end no one faces consequences for their immoral actions? Dying and then nothing is not a punishment. It's not like you missed out on heaven, you no longer exist. You can't regret if you don't exist. Our souls persist beyond death and to think God will simply delete the souls of those who rejected Him is not supported by scripture. The soul is eternal and because of this there must be somewhere for it to go when the physical body dies. Hell was created for Satan and his legion but after sin entered Man, they are no longer the only beings who will go to hell.

http://coldcasechristianity.com/2016/the-brief-biblical-case-for-the-eternal-life-of-the-soul/

It's interesting. 'Soul annihilation' sounds a lot like what you were describing. Are you a JW? Because that would explain it.

https://www.gotquestions.org/human-soul-mortal-immortal.html

What gave you the impression I wish for people to be tormented and to suffer forever? I wouldn't wish that on anyone but people choose it by rejecting Christ. I am just not convinced. What you see in those verses, I do not. It has nothing to do with being open minded or research more. I simply don't see what you are seeing.

I'm not sure why you think I'm angry but I assure you I'm not. I'm just trying to make a case for something. I just think you should question this more. You believe something in contrast with scripture.

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Revelation 21:8

If when the wicked die they become non-existent nothingness, how would they be able to die again, after having already died? This verse not only tells us of a potential death after our passing on earth, but what awaits those who's names are not found in the Book of Life.

If indeed hell is a lie, what is this second death and what or where is this lake of fire and brimstone?

And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Daniel 12:2

They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might

2 Thessalonians 1:9

There is certainly something awaiting the damned after death that is perceivable. Jesus also talks of the paths that lead to life and to destruction. Was he not speaking of the afterlife?

Consider the possibility that you have been deceived by Satan.

Good question. It hit a nerve?

What did Jesus save us from if there is no punishment for sin? Why do we need a savior if there is nothing to be saved from?

https://web.archive.org/web/20100401072649/http://www.ajc.com/news/gbi-husband-shot-ex-410703.html ? AJC archive (now 404) of Schaffer and husband murder-suicide

No. He died in 2012. Check the coroner's report earlier in this thread.

Yeah, I liked the part where there's no evidence. facepalm

Neither angiotensin I or II are diagnostic of heart attack or heart failure and they don't test for it. ACE inhibitor use is theoretical not evidentiary. They try it...uf it worjs great. If not , then dc.

Other cardiac enzymes tested after cardiac event are troponins not ACE.

Point about KCl liquid is that it is not disguisable and orally intolerable . You would know there was something awful in drink and then vomit.

No test performed for insulin levels. Insulin levels are insinuated by blood glucose levels.

There is not evidence of hyperkalemia. Potassium levels in vitreous are wnl and rise after death.

They do not do serum lab in dead person. They do vitreous, stomach contents, urine, perineal fluid or organ sample.

This post got DELETED. Does anyone have a backup???

From the post above:

70% blockage of his anterior descending artery in his heart, along with left ventricular hypertrophy which would suggest he did have heart problems. that doesn't conclude that he had a heart attack rather it sets the grounds for a legitimate claim that he could have died from a heart attack

100% blockage is not necessary for a heart attack. Again, if you can cite a medical authority saying that CHF only happens when blockage is at 100%, please do so. I'm guessing you can't, because people die from partial blockages all the time. That's why doctors fretted over cholesterol for so many years. In addition, Bill Whittle, another conservative firebrand and close friend of Breitbart's revealed that Andrew had already suffered an earlier heart attack:

https://radiopatriot.net/2012/03/03/bill-whittle-at-pjtv-says-breitbart-had-previous-heart-attack/

Please...give me the evidence. I have real difficulty believing that Breitbart's death was pure coincidence, but I am not convinced it was murder. Conjecture from non-medical professionals is useless to us. We need hard, medical evidence to prove he didn't suffer from CHF, because there's hard, published evidence that he'd already had issues with it.

Per day. The autopsy was performed within hours so a day had not even half passed yet.

If there's no hell, these antitheist, God-mocking satanists who rape and murder children will only ever experience earthly consequences and here on earth there exists not an adequate punishment for the crimes they've committed. And this is if they're even caught let alone tried and convicted which, with the entire MSM and large parts of the US government on their side, actively working to prevent their exposure, is unlikely.

For God to be perfect, He must judge evil and the people who perpetrate it. Allowing evil to continue without judgement is in itself evil. We have a perfect, loving and holy God who takes sin seriously. Who, knowing this and understanding this, gave His Son to die for man's sin because we cannot earn salvation ourselves, through our own good actions. Not only do these satanists reject God's gift, they worship His most preeminent adversary, Satan. God will righteously judge these people and the demons they worship. They won't just die and face nothingness or nonexistence. There's no such thing. The only perfect sentence for people who reject Christ, mock God, and love evil is an eternity of suffering in hell, forever seperated from the God they hate, with no hope of anything.

Hell is not merely a concept used to scare people into compliance or for profit. That's purgatory. Catholics believe that through 'indulgences' they can reduce the punishment of loved ones in purgatory. These two lies were clearly invented by corrupt catholic church leaders with the intention of control. There is no scriptural basis for these ideas. Hell, on the other hand, is real and scripture tells us so.

As stated, we need to file a complaint with CA. medical board. Please extend my thanks to the supplier of information.

Thank you. Dismiss my other comment. I appreciate you taking the time to answer.

FFS why is it so damned hard to get an answer out of you?

I am simply asking for your opinion on this matter since you obviously know more about it than I do. I don't have an opinion, I see what you've written above and I see this other guys comment that contradicts it. Then I ask you to clarify and all you do is give me obtuse circle-speak.

I guess the answer is you don't have any idea. Ok, I'll accept that. Good day.

I am a practicing physician(doctor of medicine), I can tell you from the lab results you have posted, cause of death was likely ** not ** a heart attack(ST- Elevation Myocardial Infarction). Based on what i see, K(Potassium) of 13 and Cl(Chloride) of 121 with glucose of ZERO seems likely he was injected with KCL(Potassium Chloride) Injection, likely big dose, subcutaneously with likely a big dose of insulin subcutaneously. The low glucose (blood sugar in bloodstream) would cause almost instantaneous LOC (loss of consciousness). The KCL injection(which coincidentally is what is used in death row for death penalty cases) would overload the hearts conduction circuits. Think of the heart as an electrical circuit that needs certain level of electrolytes in order to conduct electricity and produce a heartbeat. A sudden increase in levels of K and CL in the bloodstream would overload the conduction circuits and cause the heart to stop. Just my humble medical opinion based on the evidence presented. I think any board certified physician would agree with this assessment, again if the evidence presented is in fact correct.

Now this is just too weird about the coroner in Breitbart's death. Who knows how he would have ruled it had he lived. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/30/no-answers-in-death-of-technician-linked-to-andrew-breitbart.html

The lesson to be taken from this (and many other incidents) is never threaten to expose anything. EXPOSE IT.

I looked at the report again, and it said that the left ventricle was 60%. Well, any percentage in this case that's less would be a good thing. We need the doctor to look at this again. Sorry, having a sneezing attack.

Rofl "member for 3 hours"

Go back to David Brock

http://firsttoknow.com/video-secret-cia-heart-attack-gun-declassified/

ah dang. will try and send positive vibes your way! can't imagine living near an epicenter of these structures. Would have GPS trackers on family lol!

WERE CARDIAC ENZYMES DONE? If it was a true MI, then CK-MB would ABSOLUTELY be elevated, as it usually peaks in 4-6 hrs; troponin would take much longer. However, I sincerely doubt it was a real MI for this reason alone: for a true MI, either NSTEMI or STEMI, you must have 100% COMPLETE OCCLUSION of the coronary vessel. You don't even start to get chest pain until at least 70% occluded. That is straight out of the book Do u have access to the micro slides? Are there mentioned anywhere in the report? That would be solid evidence. ALSO, the potassium level is too high for his autopsy time. I am on a forensics pathology rotation right now, so if any of you want me to ask questions to the pathologist just holla

My two cents-The evidence presented, clearly suggests, this dead M.E.'s report (God rest his soul.)regarding Andrews death is wrong. This occurs often in especially in "questionable" deaths. The ME profession is not what it use to be!

Possibility: a thoracsic surgeon, had a "look-see" at the ME's report and questioned it. Pointing out the very same information presented here today. The ME than decided to amend the original report and was killed prior to doing so. Probably the entire matter transpired via cell phones, easily compromised.

Regardess, enough evidence has been "confidently & astutely" presented to challenge Andrew's cause of death and that's not a difficult process. Every state has a medical-board, which handles complaints of this nature. If a Californian/taxpayer (s), the more the merrier, would take this information/chemistry as listed, place it in a "online" complaint form and submit it, that would be a good thing! No concern over legal recourse either "Public Trust" thing, no worries there. This produces a public record and they must eventually act on this filed complaint/more evidence.

Personally any person that I'm around doesn't believe that Breitbart died from a heart attack. Everyone thinks that he was murdered. I do and will continue to do so. Andrew really did shake them up. At this time, I say pray and pray hard for Pres. Trump because they hate him with a passion as well.

Just to add to this, it wasn't JUST a tweet. Breitbart talked about Podesta often and made vague allusions to some terrible things he was involved in. I just watched "Hating Breitbart" the other day and they spent about 15-20min out of the 1.5hr documentary on Podesta. Quotes include "Fuck you John Podesta" "What's in your closet, John Podesta." to reporters at CPAC I believe. Andrew knew and it flipped switches as Alex Jones puts it. Him tweeting it was probably proof that he was about to publish something but I'm speculating of course.

edit: didnt read the post before I wrote this. realize some of my comment is redundant, sorry.

Hillary is one of those psychopaths that likes to flaunt how untouchable she is to the people that know she is guilty! https://twitter.com/hillaryclinton/status/662070477737893888?lang=en

How creepy is that?

Thinking if he was bright red with a white band around his forehead, would he have appeared that way at the hospital, or would it have vanished on him?

Are you a paramedic or a physician?

I pretty much believe he was murdered.

I clicked on this with 187 upvoats. :x

Hey so this post is overly definitive regarding an alleged murder. Please edit your post- he was diagnosed with congestive heart failure

"mysteriously" doesn't do it justice. She and her husband were executed with a gun in their own bedroom. The spy tried to create this fantasy that the husband had cancer and that their finances were in disarray. But nobody that knew them bought it.

Well that was 2 years earlier so not as much of a clear oddity as the death of Michael Cormier a month later.

Wait but didn't that report say that his girlfriend reported he went to the same hospital with chest pains a year earlier

That's a good point. The level of evil it takes to sacrifice an entire soul just to slightly "improve" your own.... Is pretty shocking

And like you said in your original warcry, we have to ignite the mamma bears. Figure out a way to activate impulse of protection.

Chloride for Andrew was 121 mmol (high)

Expected vitreous electrolytes at post-mortem:

Chloride 115 – 125 mmol/L (Coe 1993);

So actually, the chloride count was well within normal range. You should edit your post because you're lying in claiming that 121 mmol is high.

According to your post, you were the author of the article. I'm asking because the way I understood the article, the amount of Creatinine cancelled the possibility of there having been a heart-attack. Typically when someone has an understanding from having read something, then reaches out to the author for clarification, "re-read the article" doesn't really help much.

So I'm left to assume that either I am misunderstanding the amount of creatinine that was discovered during the autopsy, the statement that the amount was indicative of a normal heart condition at time of death or the NY Times link the other poster provided is false.

He had 0.8 mg/dl , so this man did NOT have congestive heart failure ... simply IMPOSSIBLE

Do you have a citation to any medical authority confirming that creatinine levels are always high after a heart attack?

Ive been saying this since the day he died

The tweet was from 2011. He died in 2012. It really doesn't make sense that they'd wait a year to kill him.

That said, I do believe he was murdered, because one of the people who worked on his autopsy died of arsenic poisoning six months afterward. I don't think he was killed relative to pizzagate. I think he was killed because of damaging material he claimed he was going to release about Obama within a day or two.

Ah just read it. Brilliant. I'm gonna try and come up with a photo and/or hashtag to help. There was a people of the world Twitter account that just recently posted a photo of a young girl with an ak47. Might be a way to tie in global aspect of control with it. I'll try

Nothing replaces an education, thank you Doctor.

That is not a normal part of tox screen. They only look for intoxicants unless they have specific reason.

See my comment about vitreous electrolyte levels in a dead person vs blood in a live person above...which makes most speculation about potassium unimportant but I am a pharmacist so

for reference,

it would be tough to take too much potassium by mouth because it would cause near instantaneous stomach cramping and vomiting. Available pills are sustained release becaus of stomach reaction and come in 8, 10 and 20 mEq all are big pills...think ex str tylenol for 8 mEq, twice that for the 20. For people who need it (usually because they are on diuretics), average dose ranges from 8 to 40 mEq daily.

Liquid tastes like crap and there is no way you could consume it without noticing. It is only used for people who Cannot swallow pills.

Also...most electrolytes are given by mEq but measured by mmol in US. Potassium mEq and mmol are the same but some electrolytes are not, in case you ever need to look.

Nice fucking work!

I read your comment and clearly knew what you were saying. Sounds like it was misinterpreted but I didn't read it as anything but a little snark that references how Sean Spicer talks about reporters.

whats the "good authority" ?

apparently breitbart claimed (in recorded speeches) that he had video evidence that could tank the obama admin. Something like the fatherhood video perhaps?

Clinical Research pharmacist here. Just for reference I have looked at tonso medical reports over the years. At first it looked scary but...

Vitreous fluid is used in autopsy and expected levels are different than live serum values. According to this http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1966150-overview (and other sources but this was easiest to read all in one place)

Sodium expected at 135 to 150

Potassium anything under 15 is ok. Potassium rises by time post mortem because most K is in cellular fluid but after death...cells lose integrity and fluid leaks.

Chloride 105 to 135

Cr 0.6 to 1.3

With respect to Cr, that is indication of kidney function not heart attack. The heart attack signal is CK, specifically CK-mb (one if the cardiac enzymes which is different from General CK which can increase from trauma or even weightlifting) an enzyme which doesn't increase immediately. It starts to rise about 3 hours after MI and peaks at 24 hours. It isn't something they look at in autopsy...they will visually examine heart for damage.

Creatinine will be elevated in chronic heart failure if kidneys are severely damaged but it literally takes years.

However, the cause of death is listed as "heart failure due to congestive heart disease". It does not say due to myocardial infarction...

Heart failure is a catch all for no other obvious cause when there is some indication of heart disease.

The autopsy really said he was mostly healthy for a 43 year old fat guy whose alcohol level indicated he had a couple of drinks in last hour and was outside on side walk at midnight on a Wednesday.

I agree it is suspicious for a 43 year old with mild heart disease to drop dead but autopsy doesn't say anything one way or the other.

It had been my understanding that perhaps dead examiner saw stuff that wasn't put in report.

Don't forget Breitbart was also instrumental in the Anthony Weiner scandal (the first one, as oppose to Weiner's 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc.)

Breitbart would happily show Weiner's crooked weiner to anyone that asked:

SUITABLE for work video of Andrew showing Opie and Anthony the pic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9itMNwHIWIc

Always thought that was another reason (along with Podesta tweets) that got Breitbart "Killary-ed"

...but mainly he was 'heart attack-ed' due to his imminently releasing evidence of Obozo being a Kenyan/CIA asset/fake birth cert etc etc.

edit: added link.

Is this what happened to Andrew B and maybe Clancy?

https://www.sott.net/article/232912-Assassinations-by-induced-heart-attack-and-cancer

Now I remember, it wasn't a band of cherry reddish color, it was a thick white band on his skin because his skin was red from whatever. But look at this: http://www.infowars.com/only-eyewitness-to-breitbarts-death-disappears/ http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/now-a-witness-to-breitbarts-death-disappears/

Makes you wonder who slipped something into the wine he was drinking with his dinner, or if he was shot with something that delivered into this body what he died from. Don't mean a gun, but I think the gov has something to shoot into a person to make it look like a heart attack.

Are there ever cases where people reach 13 mmol in 11 hours rather than 18 and can you prove this doesn't exist, ever?

I agree, but this was like a cherry red streak/band around his forehead. A person that I used to talk to years ago, who herself was a scientist, she knew someone in forensic medicine, said something about a certain type of poison. Wish that I could remember what she said. It's been maybe 4 years ago now. Well, the forensic friend was telling her about it.

I feel like most of us knew all along but this is incredibly damning evidence, amazing work dude.

Well that explains why I didn't see your post. Which not only should be in the main sub but it should be stickied. I think we will get to that point, as long as we keep those things in mind. Surprisingly before all this stuff broke into mainstream(which I consider the few days before the 'shooter' came, shortly after the first NYT and WaPo articles) when I brought it up to my normie friends they were all genuinely curious and not being dismissive. I'm not a normie at all but I am a parent and that combined with nonpartisanship will hopefully win over the masses. It would help if these heartless hollywood shills and media folk would shut the fuck up, they are rich enough, why don't they all just move to a big island and fuck each others kids all they want ffs

Yep "suicide" pact or something. Everyone that knew them said they would never kill themselves.

Last week one of the Anons on Twitter mentioned an important March date - https://imgur.com/a/cJIbf

Wait, didn't Schaefer die in 2010 and Breitbart in 2012? Both in March, but she on the 26th and he on the 1st.

This is a post from below, curious to hear your input

Creatinine is associated with increased chance of heart attack in people with hypertension, but it is totally false to say that it is impossible for creatinine levels to be normal in someone with congestive heart failure. This is another dumb, irresponsible post. http://www.nytimes.com/1989/05/30/science/blood-test-found-to-predict-risk-of-heart-attack.html

• We have to use what we are learning about all of this or we chase down dead ends.*

With all due respect to original OP, why would anyone believe an autopsy in a case like this? The powers that be lie about everything - and they have the power to manipulate anyone and anything they want to.

George Webb, deep insider - go to his YT channel for the ultimate dose of truth, seriously - says that these heart attack murders are done incrementally. They give you somehow (restaurant meal?) a small dose of this stuff which sends you to the doctor with heart palpitations. They do it a few more times so it's on your med. record - for real. Then they hit you with the kill does while -- for instance, you're out running -- using a "heart attack gun (google it, CIA reveal --- the technology now has to be beyond belief) and that's that.

Then you fake an autopsy and most people are convinced. Others believe he was murdered but there is doubt he wasn't really because it is on his med record that he went to doctor numerous times for heart palpitations. It's brilliant - evil, diabolical, the work of psychopaths but brilliant tactically.

Here's another related example for people who are skeptical. (I'm really sorry to rock your world on this but it can't be helped.) If you've never heard of Frank Marshall Davis or know that Obama's mother was a CIA honeypot, you're not yet seeing the entire picture. http://www.obamasrealfather.com/

Because the coroner was murdered shortly after releasing the report.

this is huge (and an absolutly correct analysis)

The corruption you speak of is true but what I doubt is that we are going to see any real significant leaks coming up, mostly because I feel that Assange is dead or compromised since oct 15 with big leaks promised but nothing huge since then and even if there are big leaks I doubt it will effect people much. If the citizens aren't angry now election fraud certainly isn't going to get them going. I just don't think the public will outrage in any significant way unless they see irrefutable proof of the child trafficking and ritual abuse.

These constant deaths just made me think..... Maybe we're going about this the wrong way. Not in overall research, but in drive. What should our end goal be? The destruction of the systems that propagate this evil along with those trapped within it? MLK quote about darkness not being able to drive out darkness, only light can do that. Considering how old the structures of evil are, every single human operating within them is a victim of them. If we attack them within the realm of subterfuge it's like 300 and we're xerxes army. I still think we will win through sheer volume of awareness and awakening... But perhaps appealing to their humanity in some fashion could win over the 70% of folks in this system that aren't legitimate psychopaths and would probably hit the reset button if given one.

This is just sharing a thought and may or may not have value :)

Creatinine is associated with increased chance of heart attack in people with hypertension, but it is totally false to say that it is impossible for creatinine levels to be normal in someone with congestive heart failure. This is another dumb, irresponsible post. http://www.nytimes.com/1989/05/30/science/blood-test-found-to-predict-risk-of-heart-attack.html

Phenomenal post. Great find OP!

lol okay, you don't think it's strange that they couldn't find the thymus? I read everything, and that was weird to me. that means no immune system. member for 8 mins by the way-

Thanks!

Is it possible he was taking ACE inhibitors for his heart issues? They'll cause an increase in potassium and I think maybe chloride as well. I've got no clue what the expected increase would be though, so even if he was on them it could be irrelevant.

Very good research and compiling - much appreciated.

Andrew got whacked since he knew too much about Podesta shenanigans and had the balls to actually do something about it.

Look up CIA heart attack gun. They had something decades ago that literally left no trace at all. Edit: Almost no trace.

Not seeing the correlation between US interfering with foreign elections(which obvs has been going on for decades) and pizzagate. Those leaks were released last week and no one is even talking about it as far as I can tell. Either way I think evidence of Bam meddling with the 2012 Fr elections will only help the people to believe our govt is capable of devious shit.

The creatinine level is what really gives it away tbh, really interesting read

My understanding is that the one witness who saw him saw that he had a red-type streak or red band around his forehead. Not a material band, but his skin was that color, cherry reddish color.

Whoa didnt know that

Lol, yep. Thought I was replying to Paulie Nonuts or whatever the fuck his name is. Sorry, the Soros shills are out in droves today hard to keep track

Is this the guy who probably saw anomalies in the autopsy report or he actually performed the autopsy and saw Something strange , reported it and then was killed by someone close to him? Maybe a police man?

What is 3/15/17?

I'm 100% convinced Breitbart was murdered, but this not proof. We don't even know for sure that Breitbart had a heart attack, considering that the coroner who did his autopsy report died shortly thereafter of arsenic poisoning.

Considering that Andrew Breitbart “died” ..... following his investigation into John Podesta and the child sex ring he was a part of.....

Andrew Breitbart conducted no such investigation.

Up you go OP

Nope. Just telling it like it is. Unlike so many of you cowards I don't have to lie to push my agenda. And ultimately that's why you will lose this war. There is an obvious shift in power and no longer will you demons be able to lie and do whatever you want. This is just the beginning. As soon as the public really knows the truth they will turn in a heartbeat. Enjoy your freedom while it lasts, pedo!

pg. 9- why was there an unidentified thymus?

Just exposing pedophiles, shills and human feces. That's all for now POS

Lol, you wish somebody wanted you. Must suck not to have a single person in your life that actually values you.

Yup, Paulie_I fuck kids has been a member for 16 minutes and you can smell george soros fecal matter on its breath.

Cr and CPK are not the the same thing. Cr does not elevate with heart attack, CPK or troponins do. Sudden cardiac death can be heart arrhythmia without heart attack.

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Didn't Andrew's Coronet die of arsenic poisoning shortly after?

Yep! Someone Fostered him!

All the potassium level postmortem tells us is that the sample (vitreous humor usually) was in fact taken after death, probably 12-18 hours. Though this varies with health cause of death and environmental factors. Potassium levels rise after death since potassium is actively pumped out of body fluids, into cells, by metabolic processes in life. After death the sampled fluids contain more potassium, that has leaked out and not been pumped back into the cell.

Welp. Looks like Soros and CTR are on a voat mission today folks. You whores of Satan couldn't be any more obvious. Don't you guys have hole to crawl back to? I mean, your words are quite literally useless here.

Interesting. Is there anyway to find out what level of potassium chloride a prisoner would get if killed by lethal injection?

13 is high but maybe it needs to be 130 or something to stop the heart.