libertyvs

This is curious. Also look to Camp Cadazero, just to the west -- LOCATION 30303 Chicken Hawk Road See related groups.

spez_dispenser

Go here:

https://pv.mapport.com/sonoma-county-parcel-viewer/

  • Zoom into the cazadero-truth home - goat rock area
  • zoom into podesta pizza house area
  • click on the small open clearing (a property line cuts through the clearing)
  • select the parcel
  • should get an APN number: 107-050-004 OR 107-050-003
  • add 000 to the end of the APN to get a 12 digit #

Go here:

https://crarecords.sonomacounty.ca.gov/recorder/eagleweb/docSearch.jsp

  • type in the 12 digit APN#'s to see deed/title transfers

Enjoy.

Newfind

Thanks for the info.

kekistocrat

Possible ties to what we are researching here due to the nature of Burning Man -- remote, etc. but there is a rule that children must be allowed to go anywhere and see everything or some such. Mainly, just the same as the 60's was a CIA counter-culture creation BM appears to be similar. Origins steeped in mystery (conflicting/different stories as told by the same person, possible ties to Satanism, etc.) as well as the shape of the place (pentagon = five points = pentagram) and the giant circle around BM apparently has '666' in it (the distance if I remember correctly.) Many, many other coincidences which are thoroughly pointed out throughout the presentations in the link. Jan Irvin and Steve Outtrim are to be credited for the work they've done on BM. Lots of really good investigative work. -- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa3bLMRvk6HqSsLZ7RimES5UXRsdp2mey -- there's a ton of info. I used to think it was cool, never went, but wanted to. But I think it's b.s. now... Something about learning the truth in history and letting it speak for itself... seems to shatter the lies... all six million of 'em.

PizzaGate711

You no doubt will have re-opened the conversation and investigation on Voat into how Google Maps is being used by traffickers to communicate. There is plenty of flexibility to manipulate and create your own map when you become one of Google's 'Local Guides'. You seem to be computer literate so why not post a second submission all about Google Maps Local Guide??? JOIN NOW. It's free and very easy to manipulate and you can attach a photo album of the location you want to pin on your map, write what you want about it, answer questions, and of course name it whatever you want. https://www.google.com/local/guides/benefits/

zzvoat

Are you kidding? You're one of 12K people in here doing this work out of the billions and billions of people on earth. You're helping to save kids all over the world. I can see your cape from here!

ps. I do know what you're saying. It's totally unnerving, upsetting, and depressing and worse. We have each other, though, through this very tough journey. Since I began this work, I stop every day and think deeply about at least 5 things I'm truly grateful for in my life. Then, I take a few minutes to savor each one of them.

A BIG huge for you!! Oh, let's make it TWO!

Forgetmenot

Upvoat and a thank you!

I_have_my_gun_ready

Also people can request that Google take their home OFF THE map, or place the home in a differant location than it really is. A lot of celebrities do this so fans don't show up at their house or stalk them.

SoldierofLight

I believe you're on to something here. Lately, when I see maps or images that have been obviously tampered with in some way, my first assumption is that the bad guys did it. But your post reminded me of something one of the Insiders recently posted on 4chan, https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/112808283 and that was, "You must start fighting. This is a cyber war and an information war. There are no rules." WHAT IF someone with inside knowledge of Podesta and the other POS also has the ability to use cyber warfare (i.e. hack Google maps) and is offering us clues, or Look At This! Regardless of who put that icon there, it got you thinking, several of us thinking, and that will likely bring us something good. I'd like to hope they're not ALL larpers, but the challenge is in figuring out the who, what, why, when, and where.

spez_dispenser

This is like a giant game of Pokemon Go.

Example - Pokemon Go is an intel operation to get "eyes on the ground" to collect the geospatial intelligence that google earth can't. The creator of the game even has ties to intel.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/4sa0w6/pokemon_go_geospatial_intelligence_gathering/ https://theoutsidernews.com/articles/2016/07/12/pok%C3%A9mon-go-investor-has-close-ties-us-intelligence

It's the same principle at work. I like to think the good (and bad) guys at the alphabet agencies are monitoring VOAT, 4Chan and others for leads.

So if they wanted eyes on something, they "plant a pokemon" so to speak, and thousands of diggers show up to analyze the data six ways to sunday.

Trump is doing the same thing. He says "Incident last night in Sweden", and the attack dogs start fact-checking to find out there was no incident in Sweden, while at the same time, millions of people are becoming redpilled on how much of a shithole sweden is becoming.

It's as though we are playing a real-life ARG:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_reality_game

SoldierofLight

I like your Pokemon analogy. I wonder if the possible real reason behind that game is why instinctively I had no desire to play it.

Here's to all the good guys trying to salvage the planet before God throws his hands up. And if any of you good guys on three-letter teams are hanging out with us, feel free to throw us as many breadcrumbs as you can.

zenmaster_411

According to this link, anyone can become a Google Map moderator: https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/google-mapmaker/EJ6K4WbUBWU

"Anyone can become a volunteer MapMaker moderator. In fact, once you sign up for MapMaker you have directly moderator ability."

PizzaGate711

Yes! And you can be a Google Map Local Guide too - lot's of flexibility in it. Gotta feeling OP works for Google btw.

zenmaster_411

I'm completely convinced that traffickers use Google Maps to communicate.

ConcernedParent2

That's not what it says in Google's support FAQ. And further down, another user says:

After a certain number of your edits have been approved and published, your credibility or reputation gets improved. After some time any edits that you add to GMM automatically get published without requiring the approval of a reviewer or moderator. Google does not divulge the exact details or the method in which your credibility is updated.

bikergang_accountant

What this means, (btw I've done some of this type of work for others), is that was added by the business itself and done so because they wanted to expand their market presence. If I'm doing work for a local business, say Joe movers, this is the sort of thing I might do while doing a shit ton of other stuff on top of it. You don't think about adding a business to google unless you've been doing a lot of other stuff to attract business.

So then if this is a business entity that at least at one point was trying to grow its web presence, can we find other products of that effort as well? A website with links on other sites? That or maybe his situation was unique and he was trying to make it easier for customers to find on a map because he's thinking about it in that level of detail. That or it is a troll and it really is that easy to edit. One customer of mine (a local) was in complete disarray about ownership and access to a lot of digital things. Both myself and his daughter spammed the google places listing for him with updates until they stuck. It worked.

One of those things was a website listing. I could have phished his customers if I were a third party. The information on the site matching 90% with the content on the places listing so google accepted it. Google doesn't know these businesses better than anyone else so they generally believe people. How is Google to know it's not called John's Pizza Mansion?

MattHelm

More important is who gets to Hide their locations on Google Maps? We know the Government can hide any secret installation they want to. Many people search for Area 51 and that's so well known it can't be hidden but there are many other Top Secret bases that are completely hidden.

Barbra Streisand wanted to hide her Malibu mansion she was angry that sight-seers and tourists were so easily able to find where she lived but it backfired on her she got so much negative publicity it's now known as the Streisand Effect.

Podesta should be powerful enough to hide anything he wants he can pick up the phone and call Eric Schmidt at Google any time he wants and Eric will do whatever Podesta tells him to do.

thisHoCwilltumble

http://imgur.com/a/rhUyB is this too much of a stretch? Brandon Hurlbut being the one who named the pizza mansion. Probably pure coincidence right?

EDIT: I should have look harder bc the email id isnt the one that actually includes Brandon Hurlbut

heywhatsgoingon

Wasn't sure why that name would be significant so I looked it up:

http://www.boundarystonepartners.com/brandon-hurlbut

Previously, he served on the advisory board of GE Current and as a senior fellow at Center for American Progress .

ConcernedParent2

I don't see that name pop up when I look at the label on google maps. How are you getting that?

thisHoCwilltumble

if you click the photo it will pop up

ConcernedParent2

Okay, I see it now. I'm pretty sure whoever posted that photo is just a troll.

thisHoCwilltumble

Agreed

Werwer12

I also have first hand knowledge. This was about a year ago. A friend of mine wanted to start a painting business. We built the website in an evening and later I added the location to google. I am 100000℅ sure that in my case, the business was added within about a week and there was absolutely nothing needed to verify it from google. So in other words, in my experience, it was very simple to add a location to google maps.

PizzaGate711

Become a Google Map Local Guide and you can add anything. It seems to be a favourite with traffickers. One can edit on the run and add photos, write up a written review and assign whatever title or name to a destination/location.

Werwer12

Ask risk of sounding like a shill, this whole pizza mansion thing sounds almost comical. It just feels so fake to me.

PizzaGate711

If it was planted by another it's up to distract. If it was posted by Podesta you'd think he might have had it scrubbed when PizzaGate broke. But then again he's got a lot on and it may well have slipped his mind. Has anyone confirmed it is his address? Regardless of a pin name on a map, if he own the property - just miles from Bohemian Grove, that's a huge win for the knowledge bank of PizzaGate.

momadona

I don't know if this has been posted but for those who are having trouble locating the alleged Podesta Pizza Mansion, here are the coordinates you can paste into Google Earth. The label, "Podesta's Pizza Mansion" has been removed but I saw it there last night. Typed it in and went right to it. 38° 34'42.40"N 123° 07'38.94"W

Singleservename

Well it makes ME wonder how Alefantis got Pegasus on the map.

PizzaGate711

Google Maps Local Guide - Anyone can create their very own special 'pizza' map!!!

https://www.google.com/local/guides/benefits/

SpikyAube

It's there, a house in the woods alongisde 'Bearpen Creek' with a big dirt area in a clearing outside the house, there's a red parasol on the other side of the clearing, facing the house. Nearby is 'Camp Cazadero' - they're in an area called 'Truth Home' next to an area called 'Goat Rock.' Weird. I remember with the Pegasus listing in DC you could see when it had been added and by who. I wonder why you can't with this one.

SpikyAube

Camp Cazadero has come up before in early December. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1464722 - the comments in this one are particularly enlightening.

And this post also: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1466045

It's only 15 miles away from Bohemian Grove apparently. Maybe someone added the PIzza Mansion to try to draw people's attention back to this area?

surgeson

How about because it never existed.

surgeson

Hah. It was John Podesta 's Pizza Mansion before. If you're gonna hoax, at least get it right.

SpikyAube

Ok well I guess someone must have re-added it then more recently. I hadn't heard about it til I saw this post.

ConcernedParent2

It could have been a fake screen shot if it was real, Google removed it and any trace of whoever put it there.

edit: okay I see what you're saying, just googled it myself, it is really there. So, now it's trying to verify who put it there?

SpikyAube

Yeah, and when. I posted under my last comment that this Camp Cazadero came up before in December, and no one mentioned the Pizza Mansion then, so seems like it must have been added since.

Here's what my other commnet said:

Camp Cazadero has come up before in early December. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1464722 - the comments in this one are particularly enlightening.

And this post also: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1466045

It's only 15 miles away from Bohemian Grove apparently. Maybe someone added the PIzza Mansion to try to draw people's attention back to this area?

ConcernedParent2

It's only 15 miles away from Bohemian Grove apparently. Maybe someone added the PIzza Mansion to try to draw people's attention back to this area?

This is what I'm wondering. Either this is a troll/disinfo shill, or someone wanted us to dig here.

LostandFound

What is really easy to do is take over an existing business, it's currently a bit of a loophole. Providing the owner of the prior business at a location gives you ownership of the account you can change quite a lot without having to reverify.

Perhaps look for other business/point of interest at that location

Melitica

If a business isn't claimed already, with some finagling anyone can claim it and then it takes an act of congress to fix it.

I did a website for a motorcycle shop where a competitor had claimed listing and put up all their pics and info. It was painful to get it back.

Possible

Personal opinion here: On the face this doesn't seem impossible. Maybe it's unlikely but seems hard to estimate how unlikely it would be. Not sure why you got downvoated.

LA_Trump

This is true, I've dealt with google maps before. Confirmed.

Pechal

I can tell you that I legitimately placed an icon for a small business on google maps a few years ago. It was as easy as just registering an address and a name, and to be honest, seemed largely automated, or at least routine that is they don't look too closely.

As far as icon's go I was never familiar with the process for that.

privatepizza

When maps first arrived, you're right, it was as simple as that. A couple of years ago (maybe 3), they started to be stricter and you had to verify your business address through a card sent from Google to the business address with a code. This often took weeks.

imho it depends when it was entered. Could be an easy one from years ago (maybe by Brietbart or someone who knew), or it could be a leak for us to follow, idk.

Fateswebb

What if you're very rich and powerful and have a lobby group employed by google? Podesta lobby group. I bet them it's easier to ad and remove dots from the map.

PizzaGate711

Yep Google can do whatever it wants.

Wolftrail7272

Very good point

spez_dispenser

The plot thickens.

  • I went to Google Maps
  • Zoomed to the Cazadero, CA region
  • Searched "Podesta"
  • The John Podesta Pizza Mansion pops up
  • Says it's a chicken restaurant
  • Image of Rowdy Roddy Piper from John Carpenter's They Live

Criticalthinker615

it was added by brando4221 who also addeed the review "My booty hole hurt from the spicy pasta party"

VieBleu

lol! forgive me for that outburst.

RaspberryPi

As far as business markers go, maybe it was a pin nearby that was moved rather than having to start an account etc.

BackAgain

Can Confirm it shows up. The image that accompanies it kind of makes it seem trollish

AND the Youtuber was wrong when he said its just an empty dirt patch now. Podestas Pizza Mansion is a building off to the side of the Dirt patch. BUT THey clearly were building something in that dirt patch which could easily be an underground chamber

I know OP says its not easy to get a Business Marker on the map but I may try it myself to see. I'm still highly skeptical of this Pizza Mansion.

EndThePizza

After the election, somebody was able to change the name of "Trump Tower" to "Dump Tower" on Google maps. So apparently it can't be that hard for a troll to change the name of an existing place. Could that be what happened here?

PizzaGate711

It's as easier as! Look at Google Maps Local Guides. You can make your own special pizza map if you like and create a photo album with it too.

MAGABoomer

makes it seem trollish

NOOOO you're kidding. LOL

joey4track

Well that's good to know and can be checked off the list but still the issue that these caps could be VERY easily faked and everything outside of the name ie the construction etc. is kinda meaningless speculation. Not liking the trend of very speculative pieces like the fatherhood video and this 'podesta mansion' being immediately tossed around claiming to be connected to podesta when there isn't enough to back up the claim. The more people post that fatherhood video or stuff like this 'mansion' on twitter and it turns out to be a dead end it will be very tough when actual evidence comes out to convince people. This is real fucked up shit and big claims we are making, we need to be smarter about this stuff. EDIT: to the grammar Nazi's, I know I didn't capitalize podesta's name but frankly he doesn't deserve it.

islandofdelight

I'm more inclined that this is a dead end than the fatherhood video... I feel very strongly about that being the real thing.

joey4track

I agree. Mostly because the voice is so similar. I work with audio production and have a pretty good mixing ear and the voices sound very similar to me. That being said, you can't see the guy in the video at all so better to be careful about what we claim.

islandofdelight

Right, I agree no need for pitchforks yet but we do need FBI to step in... It's also possible they were responsible for leaking the evidence on worldcorpo... or the efit of the Podesta Bros in Madeleine McCann kidnapping.

EndThePizza

Yeah, that's what I find fascinating about the fatherhood video - where did it come from? Did someone go searching through random child abuse videos online until they found one that could plausibly sound like Podesta, and has lighting similar to Comet, and then plant it somewhere for us to find? That would be awfully time consuming and unlikely. Or did someone leak real evidence hoping we'd find it? The latter seems more likely to me.

FreeThem

Google is PEDO

Their CEO should be vetted thoroughly

kekistocrat

And also heavily involved in Burning Man, along with a lot of the tech companies worldwide and in silicon valley.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa3bLMRvk6HqSsLZ7RimES5UXRsdp2mey -- if you have the time, these guys have put together a wealth of info on Google/Alphabet, Burning man, etc.

keepthefaith

Sundar Pinchi? No, he's a good guy.

FreeThem

Jason Cohen, I believe, he's top dog for some reason.

Does a lot of charities in underdeveloped countries, there was a wikileak that tied Google in with the (fbxcix) and shady dealings.

This needs to be sourced, I know... Someone here must have a link or two about ABC INC

SteelDusk

Google is actively promoting anti-Trump & pro-Hillary propaganda as well as censoring Pizzagate searches. As its CEO, it is his responsibility for overseeing everything the company has done and he should be investigated for that.

keepthefaith

please tell me youre not that naïve....

PizzaGate711

It appears that Google has gone to war with POTUS and his family. Here's Google+'s page live one minute ago. Google might even have it in for Podesta.
Anyways here's the job it's doing on Trump and US democracy.
https://plus.google.com

silentwindchime

Yes, they are all connected. Here is an excellent article by Julian Assange confirming collusion: https://wikileaks.org/google-is-not-what-it-seems/

zzvoat

One ScanAnon Vault7 twitter clues is "What do Hillary Clinton, Google and WikiLeaks have to do with each other?"

Vault7? Clues? Info here: https://sputniknews.com/politics/201702161050763732-wikileaks-clinton-emails/

Freemasonsrus

If Vault 7 is what FBIanon claims it is, and it is released, then I expect all hell will break loose. Schmoogle is most certainly in the enemy camp and lord only knows the powers that have been given to them.