comeonpeople

True enough, but in this case, the source seems to be good enough for everyone to cite those statistics that further their chosen narrative, while dismissing the other statistics from the same source that do not.

GeorgeT

Eggs-Vs-Bacon you are dead on. We know child porn/snuff 150 billion / year - this needs supply. Where is it comming from? Ilegal aliens provide ideal choice.

comeonpeople

The 800k Icke is talking about are clearly the ones that are officially reported. Otherwise, what is his source for that number, and is it just a coincidence that it matches the official number?

micha_

So you are claiming, that a claim, without any facts, is better than verifiable facts?

abortionburglar

Because lizard people eat them, obviously.

micha_

DISINFO WARNING!

Fact check:

As of December 31, 2013, NCIC contained 84,136 active missing person records.  Juveniles under the age of 18 account for 33,849 (40.2 %) of the records and 9,706 (11.5 %) were for juveniles between the ages of 18 and 20. * During 2013, 627,911 missing person records were entered into NCIC, a decrease of 5.1% from the 661,593 records entered in 2012.  Missing Person records cleared or canceled during the same period totaled 630,990.  Reasons for these removals include:  a law enforcement agency located the subject, the individual returned home, or the record had to be removed by the entering agency due to a determination that the record is invalid.

https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/about-us/cjis/ncic/ncic-missing-person-and-unidentified-person-statistics-for-2013

GeorgeT

This stat is entirely bogus, number of illegals in the US is 11.5 million. Most of the abductions happened to those who do not have documents. They cannot be traced, no record of them. Please no shills. Ted Gunderson -, FBI Chief estimated 50 000 ritual child sacrifices alone per year. I would take FBI chief's word over anybody.

micha_

It shouldn't be that hard to find a few parents, whose kids are not in the stats, if hundreds of thousands kids go missing every year...

GeorgeT

We do know that child porn / snuff is a 150 billion / industry and organ harvesting is a trillion dollar industry - demand outstrips supply. Supply must come somehere. Illegal aliens fit the bill. No wonder both dems and republicans were against Trump. Inheard that John Mccain is up to no good and Nancy Pelosi's Goat Hill pizza could be a front for child trafficking.

Beaucephus

If I find out Reptilians are real, I'm checkin out! There's only so much a guy can handle.

GeorgeT

You know who the reptilians are - read about the case of Saint Simon Of Trento - a two year old boy that was butchered and remains found. Way before pizzagate, 15th century. See who were the perpetrators. Reptilians? Not really.

Beaucephus

There is definitely something funny about that clan. those we don't speak about

GeorgeT

It's an allegory. I follow Christian values even though I interpret Bible as an allegory.

organic1

Cathy O'Brien talks about how they can change into reptilians, but she says it's because of some sort of holographic technology, but never goes into a more detailed explanation. So, the question remains, were they actually using this technology to frighten her or is she only telling herself this to preserve her sanity?

GeorgeT

Min control. They induce false memory syndrome, so that nobody would believe anything else they have to say.

organic1

Absolutely!

wearesven

It's just the mumbo jumbo of David Icke. Let's not get distracted from the reality of this potential PG situation and get it smeared with wacky conspiratorial ideas that make it lose creedance. That being said, I've seen They Live and fuck that.

organic1

How can you simply cut Icke out of the equation? He was the first one to have the balls to state publicly that the elites are full of pedophiles and explicitly pointed to Savile and the BBC. He was right and to discredit him now is an egregious error.

wearesven

Because when you mix in something like "the moon being a secret spaceship that beams down an alternate reality as an optical illusion to our brain-computers so that we can't see the monoatomic-gold-eating-shapeshifting-interdimensional lizard people," all it then takes to lose any fight you have with the truths of a rampant pedophilia and corrupt government is a quick trip to the moon.. or someone citing that we've been there and then just laughing the case off.

organic1

Yeah, he's used to be laughed at. If you've ever heard his talk about the first time he was on stage trying to explain to everyone how the world actually works, you'd know he has balls of steel and understands that people would rather laugh at truth than accept it into their safe little bubble. Good thing he didn't let their laughter bother him or we might not be investigating Pizzagate at all. He helped break the silence and protection these monsters enjoy and those who had the ears to hear kept him going in the face of adversity.

GeorgeT

Why does nobody investigate this phenomenon. Was this the goal of open borders? No valid ID no trace. Demand for child trafficking, organ trafficking and child porn/snuff is growing and so is the demand for supply. Comet Ping Pong is just one of many hubs of the operations world wide. But we live in an age of information, we don't have an excuse now. We can trace every suspect shipment, every shady agency related to child adoption and 'child protection', every charity and every pizza joint.

micha_

IMO this is disinfo, because it withholds the fact, that most kids reappear.

Do you want facts?

As of December 31, 2013, NCIC contained 84,136 active missing person records.  Juveniles under the age of 18 account for 33,849 (40.2 %) of the records and 9,706 (11.5 %) were for juveniles between the ages of 18 and 20. * During 2013, 627,911 missing person records were entered into NCIC, a decrease of 5.1% from the 661,593 records entered in 2012.  Missing Person records cleared or canceled during the same period totaled 630,990.  Reasons for these removals include:  a law enforcement agency located the subject, the individual returned home, or the record had to be removed by the entering agency due to a determination that the record is invalid.

https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/about-us/cjis/ncic/ncic-missing-person-and-unidentified-person-statistics-for-2013

organic1

So, because some were recovered and disappeared because of normal circumstances, we should just ignore the ones who have gone missing because of darker reasons? How do you even know that the NCIC is even telling the truth about these statistics?

micha_

"Some" were recovered? Jesus, look at the numbers!

A person is not equal a child! A person going missing is not equal a person going missing and not coming back! A child going missing is not equal a child going missing and not coming back!

Is that too complicated for you, or are you defending the BLATANTLY FALSE CLAIM of 800k kids go missing every year on purpose to discredit PG?!

GeorgeT

11.5 million illegals in the US, conservative figure. Could be as high as 20 to 25 million. Still think 800 000 missing children is not feasable? Ted Gunderson put out a similar number.

organic1

Calm down. It appeared from your comment that you were attempting to discredit Pizzagate. You're the one who was throwing out numbers of those recovered by use of the system's figures.

micha_

Numbers are the prove this is a blatant lie.

organic1

What are you talking about? What David Icke is saying is truth. If you believe what he's discussing is false and misleading, you need to take his quotes and use evidence to prove him wrong. Don't just throw out some NCIC numbers, and TWICE in the same thread as if we didn't see it the first time.. PROVE that crematories and mortuaries are not destroying the evidence of the torture and rape of children. Demonstrate PROOF that Bush isn't a pedophile and murderer.

micha_

If David Icke claims the official numbers were wrong, where is his proove that they are wrong? Don't you want to see proven facts, are you a religious believer? Don't forget we are not talking about a few percentage points, we are talking about 1000% and more...

I am open to learn the facts proving the official numbers being that off.

organic1

Considering what we know about these creatures being involved at the highest ranks, I'm more inclined to believe Icke than your trusted NCIC numbers. Your "evidence" even works in favor of Icke. How? Because of the last sentence: the record had to be removed by the entering agency due to a determination that the record is invalid.

That sentence right there makes me suspicious of you and your evidence. What is the basis for determining if a missing child report is invalid? Even if it was invalid, why remove the record completely instead of making it inactive with specific comments as to why it is no longer an issue? Sounds like official fuckery to me.

micha_

If there is made a claim, that certain numbers were totally made up, every logical person demands facts. Where are the facts for these claims? Or show me at least circumstantial evidence that they are totally made up.

It's not about believe. This is not religion. It's about facts and connecting the FACTUAL dots.

organic1

A video was presented and you screamed TWICE that it was disinfo. That is your claim and the evidence you used in an attempt to debunk it fell flat, which I explained why in my last post. Icke used Cathy O'Brien's statements as the basis for his claims. I suggest you read "Trance: Formation of America" and you will finally understand why your argument for Icke being disinfo makes you look like a complete shill.

micha_

Do you know what verifiable facts are?

organic1

Your condescending attitude is beyond ridiculous. You aren't talking to a ten year old. Please read "Trance: Formation of America" and watch a few more of Icke's videos before you go off screaming to everyone that somebody is spewing disinfo. In case you weren't aware, Icke was the first to ever say that the elites and Savile were pedophiles.

micha_

I know that. And from Icke comes so far the best logical argument, why Buckingham Palace is involved in pedophilia. But that doesn't mean that he is always correct. I am open minded for his theories, but when he claims something, and this stands against other facts, for example against a statistic, I demand, as every rationale person should do, FACTS, that support his claim.

And so far many people keep repeating the 800k number, because most people do not check the facts, and so far NOBODY has delivered any facts, that prove the official statistics totally wrong. Not even a few parents, that complain, that their missing child was not put on the list!

We are talking about roughly 2x700.000(!) parents EVERY YEAR!

That's 1.4 Million people, whose kids are not put into the statistics EVERY F.CKING YEAR and you can't name me a few dozen parents, complaining that their kids went missing and were denied to be put on the list!

You clearly do no fact checking at all for yourself. But what is worse, you are ignorant to facts. You prefer to believe and ignore what you do not like. You accept only what fits your opinon.

I am not interested in PG because I want to believe. I am interested in FACTS.

There are enough facts that show PG is real and which are worth discussing. The 800k kids per year in the USA claim is not supported by facts, and therefore not worth to build anything on it.

I do not discuss with ignorant people.

organic1

You want facts, yet you're under the impression that all missing children are reported. Go look at all the kids that come up missing under CPS's care. Children are sometimes missing for months before their agents report it. I think you need to stop wringing your hands about numbers because you're never going to get a straight answer from anywhere. Just know that some kids are reported, while others will never make the list because it's as though they never existed.

comeonpeople

Icke repeats the "800k" number -- these are the official numbers -- but ignores the rest of the official stats that accompany that number, the ones that say virtually ALL of those people turn up. Most were not even gone for any significant length of time.

Funny that you would take the 800k as gospel while discounting the other numbers from the exact same source.

organic1

Show me how many OFFICIAL missing child statistics include those abducted by satanic circles?