wehaveyouremails

Gustav, Guiseppe and 2 Alfonsas appear in the list of people who've donated to the Clinton Foundation:

https://idraintheswamp.com/home/clinton-cartel/

They're listed as:

Gustavo Cisneros & Venevision Guiseppe Ciardi Alfonso Fanjul Alfonso T. Yuchengco

Don't know if it's worth digging on those names, there were SO many donators to the CF that it's not a big surprise those common names would show up at least once.

edit:

hmm...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=405x51320

"Bush, Cisneros, Fanjuls. Meeting again, as before, right after the Venezuelan coup."

Cisneros = Gustavo Cisneros, Fanjuls = Alfonso Fanjul and his brother

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/press-releases/president-clinton-bring-together-leaders-business-government-and-civil-society

"Today, President Bill Clinton announced a roster of international leaders from the private and public sectors across Latin America, the Caribbean, Canada, and the United States who will participate in a one-time Future of the Americas convening on December 11 at the University of Miami in Miami, Florida. This convening is part of President Clinton’s long-standing commitment to economic prosperity, investment, and innovation across the western hemisphere, through his work in office and post-presidency through the Clinton Foundation."

"Participants in the Future of the Americas discussions include" lists "Gustavo Cisneros, Chairman, The Cisneros Group of Companies" and "Alfonso Fanjul, CEO, Fanjul Corp"

I don't have any idea if this is any kind of a lead. It's most likely NOT, I'm just checking different angles.

wehaveyouremails

I read this:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1662354

And decided to try putting Gustavo, Alfonse and Guiseppe in wikileaks and they all appear alone or in combination in the Podesta/DNC/Clinton emails:

https://search.wikileaks.org/advanced?any_of=guiseppe+alfonse+gustavo&query=&publication_type%5B%5D=46&publication_type%5B%5D=45&publication_type%5B%5D=42&order_by=most_relevant&document_date_start=&document_date_end=&released_date_start=&page=2&released_date_end=&exclude_words=&exact_phrase=&new_search=False

Haven't dug yet but wanted to get more eyes on this. They're not uncommon names though, like there are a bunch of different Gustav's in those search results. That's an "any of these" search.

With an "all of these" search (so the email has to have all 3) the only 3 results are zip files from the Cryptome Documents (I don't know what those are):

https://search.wikileaks.org/?query=guiseppe+alfonse+gustavo&exact_phrase=&any_of=&exclude_words=&document_date_start=&document_date_end=&released_date_start=&released_date_end=&include_external_sources=True&new_search=True&order_by=most_relevant#results

Don't think there's any leads here, just documenting this incase someone else wants to dig on it or it reminds anyone of anything.

rwb

I listened to the video perhaps thirty times, in two or three sessions, and could hear nothing remotely like skippy. Just now, on a third or fourth pass, I heard it. Once you isolate it, It's there, and quite clear. Wild speculation here, but the inflection upward infers a third person witnessing the 'event' and attempting to get the perpetrator to exercise restraint.

detcmon

the same 3 second video is on the directory with several different file names http://www.worldcorpo.net/content/video/

joey4track

Seriously, and the fact that everyone can upvote but not all can downvote means that crap like this always shoots to the top, then inevitably on to Twitter and the the PG investigation loses that much more credibility. Thanks OP. And thanks mods for not cleaning this place up and putting proper tags on weak posts like this one.

ArthurEdens

True, or it could have been correctly set

ArthurEdens

I just want to point this other thread out that was quickly posted and deleted by the brand new user n080d33 (nobody)...

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1662354

https://voat.co/user/n080d33

Kind of a weird coincence that they post something about an instagram account with a woman who gets photographed by a guy named gustavo

https://www.instagram.com/p/BE3rDaQyTWJ/

https://www.instagram.com/vj_gustavocisneros/

And there is a new video on that worldcorp site named gustavo

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4fHdbpLVTy4&t=6m26s

Anybody watch gustavo yet? I'm not confortable clicking it

wehaveyouremails

I don't think we can conclude that it's NOT Podesta in Fatherhood/Each.

The arm holding the broom is skinny like his, the voice is an adult male and sounds very similar to his voice, the colored lights match CPP's lights, we know the CPP crew is good with construction and could build a small shower area on any one of their properties, it does sound like he says says "I'm John Pod--SING!!" in Each in place of the song lyrics "I'm Calliou". And we know pedo rings in general record stuff to blackmail eachother with and keep everyone quiet so it's not impossible that someone's got their hands on videos of one of these guys.

We should approach it skeptically but saying it's 100% NOT Podesta is as bad as saying it 100% IS Podesta.

Regardless there's a kid freaking out in that Fatherhood video and that should be looked into. The black & white and brightened version of it someone posted makes it extremely clear to see the kid trying to escape that shower or whatever he's trapped in and those screams sound very real.

n080d33

Well put, I have been trying to expose some coincidences that are kind of far-fetched, but I feel must be looked into before totally being dismissed. Anyway, everything I have posted so far has been moderated into silence and I feel kind of discouraged. My point is to kind of reiterate that instant 100% denial of "incredible coincidences" is just as extremist and destructive as believing everything you see. Let's not forget why everyone is looking for patterns everywhere, this is an open source investigation and there might be lives at stake, may not all be mere coincidences... Just saying...

lawfag123

Weird that you are posting after being completely inactive for 2 months.

joey4track

You guys are hearing things and this type of over speculation is cheapening the investigation and adds literally nothing while it discredits actual evidence. This may be actual child abuse but there is NO clear evidence that 'skippy' is said especially not enough to put in a click bait title like this. Smarten up people.

Hazilla

Yeh, confirmation bias is kicking in for this one

wehaveyouremails

I second this. There's no way to conclude that he's saying Skippy, it's not audible enough at all and there are a lot of words he could be saying instead. Wish the title of this thread didn't assume it just like that Sheilaaliens thread shouldn't have put that the brothers video was of the abused boy and that he was safe and sound in the title. We can't jump to conclusions like that.

joey4track

Seriously mods need to tag posts like these and those you have mentioned.

fremar

you truly believe its podesta ? the other video , maybe , but now that there's more coming to light about pedogate, you think podesta would keep on making videos that could be used against him ? i doubt that very much. podesta is a smart mofo.

rodental

I was on the fence. In the one video the abuser is called both "Skippy" and "John", and sounds exactly like John Podesta, but that could be an extraordinary coincidence. What really convinced me was so many shills coming out of the woodwork to discredit them.

fremar

you have no control whatsoever about how many shills or anything at all really. we have supercomputers checking every email , webpage , you name it. and noone ever before working behind those supercomputers has found anything related to pedophelia ? i said it before & i say it again, this is a control thingy to keep everybody from the streets , locked behind their pcsreens waiting to be fed some fresh doom. organize yourselves and demonstrate , take it to the streets ! then you will see whos a shill & who not.

ArthurEdens

The videos were made in 2015

rail606

John Podesta has likely been doing sacrifices for Moloch since he was born. It isn't exactly the sort of thing you just sign up for. Even if the video is 2 years old it does matter. Podesta is waaaay older.

ArthurEdens

I'm not saying it doesn't matter, I'm saying it does like you are, i was just replying to the blowhard arguing with me. It absolutely matters I agree

fremar

soo ? then still , why keep on releasing it ?

ArthurEdens

figure it out

fremar

doesn't make sense that podesta would let the guy release those videos without severe consequences . you think podesta has no internet and / or laptop / pc ? let's use common sense for a change.

Nana66

He would also never leave his phone in a cab....oh...wait.

ArthurEdens

Haha

fremar

i'm sorry , i cannot follow you ?

Nana66

There were emails he was talking about having left his phone in a cab and people speculated it could be how his emails were collected.

fremar

oh thats possible but then why the need for wikileaks ? do not forget anthony wieners laptop with 650000 emails. everything is possible but someone like podesta who doesn't take any action against those videos from worldcorp , i dont buy it .

ArthurEdens

If you don't buy it then we're probably right then

fremar

who is we ? i told you not to send me any messages if you refuse to use your braincells and common sense. i dont buy your behaviour.

ArthurEdens

Leaks and hackers

memegod420

Or a combination, or black mailers, or a dozen other things.

ArthurEdens

Or that yes

fremar

oh please , so the guy owns a website with fuckedup videos , gets hacked , gets posted everywhere on teh internet , somehow he doesn't know and keeps his website online with new added content ? he knows hes a pedophile but he doesnt know about pizzagate ? look , it would be awesome if anybody "finds" the ultimate evidence sure , but this seems retarded , really , smart enough to kidnap kids ,abuse them , murder them , eat them and not getting caught ? but then just in the right moment getting "hacked" so all this comes to light ? naaah dont think so. but thats just my opinion.

ArthurEdens

You sure like to say how smart he is

fremar

look dont be hurt in your intellect, im just saying what i think about what you posted. podesta has been running your country for years , you dont think he has some working braincells ? and for the record , i speak my mind. dont care if anybody likes that or not.

ArthurEdens

Congratulations

fremar

thanks. so is there any reaction coming from you that i can say ; hey this man applies his logic before presenting something as socalled evidence ? if not , dont bother .

ArthurEdens

If you are here to have your ego fed, here goes...

What a smart and insightful and helping person you are, what would we do without you? I praise your superiority.

Okay? Can we stop talking now?

fremar

no i am not here to have my ego fed , dont be so oversensitive please. look at the replies , more ppl have the opinion that this is not specially podesta. you started talking to me , i just posted my thoughts about that post. do not reply , thanks in advance

User890020

New video??

Is this a honeypot?

ansipizza

My guess is it's being fed to us, one way or another. Either it's deliberate leaks by a blackmailer or "deep throat" type who wants the truth to be discovered without the source being traceable back to him/her, or it's a honeypot designed to get the IP addresses of our most active investigators.

wehaveyouremails

Thanks for making that YouTube vid. This specific clip is at 6:45 for anyone who doesn't want to download it off WorldCorp, give it a watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fHdbpLVTy4

Also I debunked the Robert Robinson being the guy in Fatherhood/Each thing here (read my middle and last post in this 3 post chain):

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1657970/8109809

Doesn't mean he's not involved but he's definitely not the arm in Fatherhood and Robert hasn't had any kind of stable life since 2011 to where he could be living in a house raising the 3 brothers (there's 3 brothers in that video of the couch kid, not 2, read my post I'm linking) from Sheilaaliens' WorldCorp finding.

Robert COULD be a boyfriend to a girl with those 3 brothers as her kids and that's her home, but Robert is a fucking mess and has 2000+ pics of his life since 2011 with no pics of a girlfriend or anything that I could find (except his creepy mannequin head).

Just want to make sure we fully rule out Robert as the Fatherhood/Each guy. He could be involved in this but that skinny arm holding the broom in Fatherhood is definitely not Robert Robinson's arm and his voice doesn't sound anything like the Fatherhood/Each voice.

Fateswebb

Robert isn't involved, the dude is a full on idiot. He seeks attention, he doesn't hide behind anonymity.

dookiehowzer

i heard it

knight222

What am I watching at?

thisisnotagame

Would someone write up what they are viewing for those whom do not wish to watch?

kubrixxx

Very short, just a couple seconds. Muffled distressed voice, sounds higher pitched, possibly childlike. Looks like a black trashbag or something similar is taped over their head as they are possibly being dragged / struggling with another person. Hard to see, very low quality.

ArthurEdens

It sounds like the same boy being tortured from the fatherhood video. The fingers on the piano keyboard look like a boy's limp hand with blood on it being moved by someone else, and the voice again sounds like John Podesta's; his voice cracks just like podesta's.

The other video with the man sitting in a sweatshirt and black hood also looks like john podesta's build and posture. The hood might be the same hood used on the boy.

I think someone is leaking this stuff to expose podesta

neurofluxation

possibly being drug

This should be dragged, I normally wouldn't bother but it could cause misinterpretation!

wehaveyouremails

Definitely looks like a child (fully clothed in a long-sleeved top and track pants, no CP here) and for anyone who watches: to fully understand what you're seeing look for the bright hand on the bottom-left reaching up to the garbage bag around their head and watch for the two lines like track pants on the bottom right, you should be able to pick out the form of the kid's body from those, the vid is really low quality.

Can't make out what's being said at all, but the video has been uploaded as "guiseppe.webm", "gustavo.mp4" and as "alfonse.wmv" (they're all the exact same video and all "last modified" within minutes of eachother)

DarkMath

What do they say?

wehaveyouremails

I thought it was completely inaudible at first, just high-pitch garble like bad audio recorded underwater (or like a kid muffled through a garbage bag) but after listening a few dozen times I can hear the Skippy part...it's right when the audio kicks in and it sounds like "no Skippy (then inaudible stuff)" like the kid could be pleading.

But I can't tell if I'm just hearing it because I want to hear it and it's not totally clear it's just the muffled noise COULD be "Skippy" but it could also be any word with those general phonetics or the audio could be sped up etc. Need more ears on this one and I don't think we can conclude that the kid is saying Skippy.

My question is: why the fuck is this being uploaded. WorldCorpo knows we're going through their shit. Why haven't they closed up shop like everyone who takes their Instagram etc down once we start snooping?

xpeapawx

its hard to tell really. in the beginning though it sound like a child saying "skippy" or "hey skippy"

WhiteHatDimeHack

Do you hear that DarkMath?

DarkMath

"Do you hear that DarkMath?".........No, it was too quick and the kids head was in a trash bag so you can't really tell what he's saying.

Someone in law enforcement needs to investigate this. It could be a hoax but what if it isn't. You can't see and hear that kid being tortured and not want something done about it.