Piscina

omg 'baby'. Do yourself a favour and crawl back into your mom's basement.

Piscina

You are the reason people become liberals. You make ad hom attacks; you can't control yourself; your anger and entitlement are beyond the pale; you hate everybody who doesn't think like you do. Thank goodness most of the people here are decent. We come from all political persuasions. You think anyone who doesn't fall into line are 'fucktards' 'bastards' 'fakenews'. Good luck loser.

Piscina

we don't know WHO asked Milo not to speak, if anyone did. We don't know the reason he was asked not to speak, if there were any reasons. Someone may have threatened him; maybe someone didn't.

Seriously, all you do is vociferously defend a dude who has done nothing for pizzagate; has minimised the suffering of victims; and who really hates women. What a great ally!

Melitica

Twitter hash tag #Milowas13

Piscina

The 'big picture' is that Brock has seen an opportunity to attack the Right. Who created that opportunity? Milo himself. He gave them the ammunition; they used it against him. If Milo is cumbersome to the Right, the Right needs to drop him like a hot potato. Drop him from CPAC and tell the guy to disappear and keep his mouth shut. As I said, Milo hasn't done anything for pizzagate; he's been silent on the issue.

Piscina

I'm going to say something. I am wondering whether Milo lurks here because I've seen some comments that sound like him talking.
Anyway, the critical point is this: it all comes down to what you think 'pedophilia' is. @Michael86 , a big fan of Milo, says that it's not 'pedophilia' to have sex with a 14 or 15 year old, irrespective of age of consent laws. Michael insists that pedophilia relates only to little children; I disagree. imo, pedophilia is the act of exploiting, taking advantage of anyone who does not have the capacity to consent. I believe a 15 year old does not have the capacity to consent to sex with a 29 year old. Michael thinks that's not pedophilia. And I believe that's the angle Milo was coming from too.

Piscina

Thank you. Someone with common sense.

Oopster

When was the video published? If it was before the current awakening, then of course he would project as it being ok at age fourteen. Hell how many of us went for the older (college) girls/guys in our late teens? He justifies his identity - at that time. Now look at today, and after the awakening, and the reality of how vast the problem is. If you want to stop this horror, then do not blame the victims, we need them to come forward and help end this battle.

fooobyfeet

huh, carefull with those feels

Bitchybadger

The Alfantis/Podesta cabal is causing this. Focus my friends. We all have a feeling that the shit is going to hit the fan with pizzagate. We are being led by the nose ring in the direction they want is to go. Please do not fall for their tricks. This will be righted in due time.

revofire

Hell, I don't agree anyway. The age of consent laws are messed up for many reasons and many things. Regardless, this is all BS to take Milo down. FFS.

therealkrispy

Agreed, consent laws have a ton of issues from a ton of different perspectives. Personally, I think we should just use the half your age plus six rule. Half the older party's age plus six is the youngest they should be allowed to do stuff with wherein consent is considered possible.

Example: an 18 year old can do stuff with someone over the age of 15. That being said, you always round up, so a 19 or 20 year old's minimum is 16, a 21 or 22 year old's is 17, and from 23 up, we're talking about only being able to do stuff with adults, so it's no longer a factor of legality. Still keep rules about family members, teachers, bosses, etc. (People around the potential victim that have power over them)

Of course, you couldn't implement anything like this until work was done to fix our completely dysfunctional child protective services system. Right now, in some cases, it does far more harm than good, and in the worst cases, it can take kids in potentially nominal situations and place them in the custody of a monster that belongs in the ground.

angry_mob

this is the most ridiculous bunch of tripe i've ever read! you sound like a pedo.

therealkrispy

Well, a pedo would say that anyone of any age can fuck anyone of any age. Watching the insanity that goes on at Berkeley should be enough to show that most college kids are just as stupid, impulsive and impressionable as high school kids. Not all, but most. The difference in maturity is frankly negligible​.

I don't take kindly to being called a pedophile. I think that rapists of any kind should get a mandatory minimum sentence of 15 years, and the second offense should be the death penalty. Rapists that target and abuse minors should get life as a minimum sentence, death at the discretion of the judge, and no opportunity for parole. "Grooming," if proven, should count as child molestation and conspiracy to kidnap a minor. Sex trafficking should carry life, and if they fail to turn in sources, death. Most lifers should be tortured and forced to work, or experimented on to cure diseases and perform studies that would be unconscionable to perform on free, law abiding citizens.

witch_doctor1

Milo NEVER advocated 13 year old boys having sex with older men...first off, he was the 13 year old victim. And basically, the talking points you are hearing are a mish-mash of several different discussions that are being pushed as a congruent singular event, when they are not. Hence talking points from Joe Rogan and Drunken Peasants and the edited portion where they left out the part about age of consent being the right age.The young boy/older man relationship comment was a reference to 17 year old Milo hooking up with a 29 year old man for 10 years...clip forwarded to correct time, but the whole video is worth watching... https://youtu.be/osFtCcpFrXI?t=358

GeorgeHodelDidit

Yes this is an organized hit piece

Chatman

To me he seems to be a victim/survivor of pedophile interference earlier which has shaped him. The unpopular truth which messes up victims more then people understand is the disconnect from the pleasure of sex & the fear/loss of control/self blame/other stuff that goes with rape/stat rape.

The_Kuru

Dude uses NAMBLA-like talking points. They are experts at gaining your trust.

p0ssum

Yes, that TOTALLY absolves him from saying the following:

You’re misunderstanding what pedophilia means. Pedophilia is not a sexual attraction to somebody 13-years-old who is sexually mature. Pedophilia is attraction to children who have not reached puberty. Pedophilia is attraction to people who don’t have functioning sex organs yet. Who have not gone through puberty. Who are too young to be able (unclear and cut off by others)…That’s not what we are talking about. You don’t understand what pedophilia is if you are saying I’m defending it because I’m certainly not.

to which the host responded:

You are advocating for cross generational relationships here, can be honest about that?”

and Milo continues:

Yeah, I don’t mind admitting that. I think particularly in the gay world and outside the Catholic church, if that’s where some of you want to go with this, I think in the gay world, some of the most important, enriching and incredibly life affirming, important shaping relationships very often between younger boys and older men, they can be hugely positive experiences for those young boys they can even save those young boys, from desolation, from suicide (people talk over each other)… providing they’re consensual

So fucking them at 13 is SAVING THEM FROM SUICIDE. And that's NOT PEDOPHILIA, it's just FUCKING YOUNG BOYS and saving them from SUICIDE.

COMPLETLY UNDERSTANDALBE.

The only reaons he apologizes is because his gravy train just came to a screeching halt. His apology is a non-apology where he never ONCE says the behavior above is unacceptable(because it is not PRE-pubescent pedophilia). He might allude to the consent ages being 'roughly the right age', but that's a whole lotta wiggle room considering the comments above. He also tries to play it off, because 'he never thought he'd be this famous' and that there were a lotta of late night streams, ha ha ha ... non - fucking - apology bullshit.

You can surely accept his apology if you like, but realize there are others that just can't bend over far enough to actually stick our heads completely inside our assholes.

Piscina

Yes, Milo dug his own sinkhole. When you say that 13 year olds have the capacity to make informed decisions, you're condoning pedophilia.

witch_doctor1

You are totally mischaracterizing everything he said...and yes, he is correct that pedophilia is the attraction to pre-pubescent children...and he explains in the second video I posted that he was essentially talking about was himself in all of these videos. He NEVER advocated 13 year olds having sex with adults, that was the mixing of two seperate exchanges...the young boy relationship with older man comment referenced the relationship he entered into as a 17yo with a 29yo (16 is age of consent in UK), as evidenced in this video clip forwarded to correct time,,, https://youtu.be/osFtCcpFrXI?t=358

This is clearly a coordinated attack on Milo using edited fragments of several interviews...Milo is not the enemy....

p0ssum

He NEVER advocated 13 year olds having sex with adults

Nope, and never said a thing against it either, because its not pedophilia ... right?

that was the mixing of two seperate exchanges

That's bullshit, he said it on Joe Rogan as well I was in my teens, 14 Joe asks, something like that he responds. Later responding, I was a very mature 14 year old and when I was 14 I was the predator. And then talks about hollywood parties with underage boys and won't name names, obviously protecting hollywood pedos, but that's OK to because .... reasons!

This is clearly a coordinated attack on Milo using edited fragments of several interviews...Milo is not the enemy....

No, it's Milo in his own words. He wasn't being inarticulate, he said what he meant ... until he lost his book deal at least. If you want to hero worship this fucking stain of humanity, that's fine. Just don't expect the rest of us to suspend reality so we can see what a decent fucking dude this is.

It's pretty simple to overcome, just name the hollywood pedos, then I'll believe him.

witch_doctor1

"never said a thing against it either" Yes, he clearly did. That is a blatant lie.

p0ssum

No, he didn't he spoke out, CLEARLY against pedophilia, but show me where he speaks out against underage boys and older men. Remeber, that's NOT pedophilia,so where does he speak out against that.

witch_doctor1

If you watched the links I posted and didn't see it, then you weren't looking....

p0ssum

No no no, again, he's talking about pedophiles. I watched the entire video several times, and he definitely and repeatedly denouces pedophilia, but never ONCE says older men should be with post-pubescent boys. I get it, you LOVE him and you want to be his apologist and make everything OK. Problem is, the facts don't support your point of view.

And ALL of that is bluster, until he names the hollywood pedos. Why is it OK to you he wont name KNOWN hollywood pedos. Please explain.

witch_doctor1

No, the older men younger boy reference was a direct reference to 17 year old Milo with his 29 year old boyfriend...in other words, he was talking about himself.

p0ssum

That's NOT what he told Joe Rogan, was he lying then, or is he lying now? And WHY is it OK that he won't name the hollywood pedos? Why is it OK that he protects them?

witch_doctor1

"And WHY is it OK that he won't name the hollywood pedos? Why is it OK that he protects them?" Protecting himself, doesn't want to be suicided....Milo is not the enemy..

p0ssum

Protecting himself, doesn't want to be suicided

LOL, Okay, right, got it.

Milo is not the enemy

Yes, he is.

FuckReddit69

Disgusting. His logic is that because the sex was concensual it was ok for the pedo to fuck him, no fagbag that doesnt make it ok.

witch_doctor1

It's makes him a victim...and humor is the way he deals with it...

Piscina

It makes him a victim who is throwing every other victim of rape and sexual assault under the bus. He is minimising their trauma and their truth. He is a bad spokesperson for this issue, as he's not dealt with his own child abuse. When he makes light of his own abuse, he is sending the message that victims should just man it out and make light of it.

FuckReddit69

Exactly. Even if he's using humor to mask his trauma, the message he sends to other victims is disgusting.

zo34

What is interesting is that the people who are demonizing him over this are seeking a more Europe-like condition for the United States. Do you know the age of consent in most of Europe? 14 to 18...

derram

https://archive.is/2kKbG :

The Swog Blog on Twitter: "Here is the Milo clip that has been edited out, where he explicitly agrees with age of consent laws. @jaketapper is lying to you. t.co/ddfiLGRzNx"

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witch_doctor1

His follow-up video from today... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osFtCcpFrXI

fooobyfeet

this is a strategic attack against new organizations , pewdiepie was taking way out of context as well. All things come in three. Mind you they have the giant AI machine on their side.

its all manufactured outrage against all of us.