TheSeer

"Trump moves to Eliminate Opposition" Next day's headlines: "John McCain and Lindsey Graham abuse of children exposed: Horrific pictures inside" Day after's headline: "Are elements of the CIA treasonous? Is the CIA actually a terrorist organization?" Are you telling me that Haiti doesn't know it got fucked by Hillary? Libya? Egypt? That Syria doesn't KNOW who helped create ISIS? How would coming clean, repentance, lead to WWIII? And against whom would this WWIII be exactly? Against the current elites? Would that be bad?

janedoemadashell

ready to hit the streets en masse

SweetCarolyn_4Jesus

I would love to see it happen!

janedoemadashell

THANK YOU!!!!

catchingfire

I noticed some weeks ago that voat has changed. There is almost no real investigation anymore, but a lot of unimportant crap. The important posts are buried and it's hard to find them. It takes a lot of time to go through threads and sort out the good stuff from the bad stuff every day. Shilling has increased. New members certainly cannot know who is trustworthy and who is not. Then there is questionable flairing and deleting done by mods that I find concerning. This sub was very different one month or so ago. It's becoming more and more a mess and rather useless for the investigation IMO, so I agree with VL.

I would appreciate a new, save place where the top investigators could go, not being troubled by shills - invite only. And I don't mind at all if I'm not allowed to join, as I do not research much myself, just reading their findings would be fine for me. I hope this will be done soon.

gangpressorliber

we need a /pizzagate/investigation tread. this /pizzagate and /pizzagate/new thread is the commons area of the voat pizzagate community. /pizzagate/investigation would be a great one. Melinial_Falcon can delete away all the news etc... 90% /pizzagate 10% /pizzagate/investigation

SweetCarolyn_4Jesus

I've noticed the same things. I hope people can get back to sharing real research.

2impendingdoom

pizzagate/wiki

VieBleu

The more they try to shut the interweb s z down and censor, the more they drive us out into the streets. They are much better off with us inside tapping over computers...

gangpressorliber

*interwebz

VieBleu

fixed it ; )

gangpressorliber

If you can investigate, you can discern Genuine from shill. I think some well meaning 12yo's make post and come off as shill and some fresh off of the MSM boat get in here well meaning and make no freaking sense, but hey they're pretty green so what do you expect. They inadvertently push what their masters taught them, not realizing the extent of the damage that has been done to them.

If we try to cut ourselves out of the greater community we minimize our reach. Getting these folks active in pizzagate research is sign that we are effective here. I don't give up on gardening because I have to pull weeds. I manage the weeds as they crop up! In many ways this is a display of the vigor of our case and intel. We work many fronts here. Collaborative research, public exposure, and debate! I don't care if it's a troll, we get to tare that dude up and the world gets to see how ridiculous they are! The shills and trolls attack us personally to try to get us to stop, we attack them (and Mod better) and it's a win win as long as we never quit!

SweetCarolyn_4Jesus

Wow those are good points!

Atatarkus

Count me out I barely know how to use this site nevermind build a new one lol, might be an idea but I'm sticking with with what I know and that's reading, memorizing and pontificating in bars, supermarkets, buses and anywhere else people will listen. Everyone should be doing that but I have to say I'm not too popular with my friends at the moment because constantly talking about child abuse is a bit of a downer, they were especially irate when I tried to red pill 5 old timers in a bar on Christmas eve. I've got through to a few people though so I don't care, if everyone red pills 2 people the world will know in a month

BackAgain

I immediately found that rule retarded that you cant post anything unless it has a link. Like you cant just discuss something with other PGers

That rule needs to go

BackAgain

I agree. people are way too antsy. Trump is a month in and has a shit ton in his plate.

If they want to protest go for it but good luck getting exposure because these protests, unlike the anti trump ones, wont be getting air time on any MSM channels

rivercontrol

Smart. I agree with you 100%.

TheSeer

Does that even make sense? "They want us to bust them right now. Arrests are the last thing we should push for right now" What???

Not only do we want the big fish, we want to know who was blackmailing them.

gangpressorliber

Rothschild family. Pap pap.. We Win.

sleepingbeautycan

The thing I have noticed about this community is that people really have radically different ideas about what is and what isn't pertinent. I understand how you can think that voat is compromised. After all they deleted your post and you think there is an important thing that needs to happen (I agree but that is besides the point). If someone else decides that it is imperative that we have a protest over the MSM handling of MIlo that would be in the same category as your post (who the heck is Milo and why is he in every other darned post for the last week) .

So the mods have decided that this place is only about finding new information on pizzagate.

So yes your idea is great but it doesn't fit here. I don't know where it fits but it doesn't fit here. So instead of getting all bent out of shape, suggest a new subverse for calls to action. Or put it on your youtube channel.

I am not a mod, I am not an admin, I just try and do my bit to move the stick forward. I try to make connections and offer help. But all of the "mods are compromised threads" strike me as people who think they know better than everyone else what should be done and are not willing to work with the framework that exists or improve the current framework.

KMicale

Forest Hills, Queens, NY

KMicale

Suggest, the path run from Austin St & Ascan Ave to Austin & Yellowstone Blvd. Weiner at one end, FBI half way, NYPD 112PCT at the other end. All told about a mile, close to LGA & JFK. Easy access from Manhattan via train

KMicale

I saw. Sorry.

redditsuckz

This should still be a public out in the open investigation. If Voat starts to implode then go out and start talking to your neighbors and bring up pizzagate. Like..."have you heard of this pizzagate thing?...you should look it up". And put #pizzagate on all your paper money and write the word on every restaurant bathroom stall you encounter.

Atatarkus

Graffiti could be a huge weapon in this war and your suggested ice breaker is what I've been saying to strangers on the bus etc., almost verbatim. People are scared to believe in conspiracies though because they don't want to look like a fool but if people start seeing the word pizzagate everywhere they might eventually become secure enough to give it serious thought. Regardless of what happens at voat everyone should get that message out there now.

Fateswebb

Sad but true.

Chatman

This is suspicious, the reasons for voat being comprimised are unfounded (he broke rule 4), new site looks like a honeypot up and protests forcing investigators into the light. Don't blindly trust him just because he has been with voat for a while since he could be a deep cover psyop. Proceed With Caution

VieBleu

He's not suspicious. has made some amateur mistakes I have tracked and he corrected one and he learned from another. a pro doesn't make mistakes for no reason when no one is looking.

OP is legit.

The reasons for being compromised go much much farther than that rule . Voat is compromised and has been for weeks.

Chatman

Then provide evidence like we do for every claim on here, else it might seem like your shilling to get people away from legit investigations? Evidence might also help convince people to abort the "compromised" site and reduce the effectivness of the "honeypot"?

VieBleu

Actually forget what I said. better that those who don't know any better stay away. Good luck.

Chatman

Thanks, I think you might be trustworthy based on our interactions on voat but I follow evidence not peoples opinions on things. I'll admit that PG has become inundated with rule breaking posts the last few weeks with little admin intervention since the worldcorp leaks so unless the admins have been suicided and for some reason you don't want people and the compromised pg admins to know that you know (which seems kinda stupid because it puts us all at risk) then im all out of ideas. Well regardless of divisions, anyone who is working to stop pedosatanism is an ally so good hunting.

gangpressorliber

Try to stay anon

BackAgain

A new unknown site would HIDE Pizzagate from people

Fateswebb

New site? What new site? They haven't even made it yet...

Chatman

I mean how his site is invite only & how he is going to recruit talented investigators from voat. Smells like a honeypot to me

Fateswebb

Yeah, I think we just need looser rules, and strict control over mods, but this place may be unfixable.

Chatman

Looser rules are in /v/pizzagatewhatever . If we had looser rules in pizzagate it would be open season for shills and inexperienced but eager spammy pg investigators. I personally like how the mods keep quality control using (mostly) clear cut rules rather then trusting based on names. Even as a person who has had one of my (what I thought) well structured pg post deleted for rule violations I appreciate how it works

Fateswebb

I agree with rule one, but have seen stuff deleted many time because it doesn't provide a source. For instance a rally cry. Deleted, no source. But there is no source for rally cries.. duh the OP is the source. There is a lot of talk about leaving this platform.

Melitica

Rally cries can also easily be used to slide topics off the front page. As annoying and restrictive as they are, structure was needed. Too many people on Voat are not familiar enough with how it works to click past crap to find real info so multiple, incomplete threads just junk up the research. I find it tremendously frustrating but they have limited tools.

RecycledUser

I tend to agree with you, on the honeypot idea.

I got discouraged a while ago, that these low hanging fruit busts are just to pacify the masses. I'm TRYING to be patient with Sessions in his new AG position. And it could be that Trump needs to break the evil cabal carefully, so as not to bring down our whole government in the process. I think what really convinced me of the gigantic force we are up against, was when I saw the videos that proved to me that Hannity was in on FAKING that he was sitting in the same room with Assange for their interview. Then either last night or tonight, Hannity went off on his show, lecturing the MSM about spreading FAKE NEWS, and not being HONEST to the viewers. Seriously?? Some people refuse to believe he'd do that, but if he or his family were threatened, he'd have no choice.

I do agree that voat has too many paid shills. AND I really do believe as hard as you investigators have worked for months, people can only do so much research and documenting, without seeing some real crackdowns.

I'm not sure if it's possible, but maybe more emphasis should be placed on getting a couple of the legitimate well known people to lead the charge? (James Woods, Scott Baio, Laura Ingraham, Bo Dietl, Rosie (if she's not compromised). Or possibly somehow getting SOME concrete direction from someone in LE, on WHAT to do next??? Just some ideas, cuz I'm at a loss, but just like many outwitted the MSM who was LYING about HRC being ahead in the polls up until the results came in, maybe it could be done again? As big as the whole PG issue is, I do agree with the OP that a PLAN needs to be figured out. But I would suggest (especially for newbies) always be careful and cautious, even for this cause.

Chatman

Being vigilant is the first thing you learn as a self appointed voat investigator. The shills on Voat are fairly low level so as long as we continue to downvoat/ignore distractions and be skeptical of everything I think we should be fine. The only thing that might divide us is getting impatient because arrests arn't happening as quickly as we had hoped. I think its going to be a battle of attrition which will require patience as the people slowly wake up to this. Maybe protests will be required when we follow the smoke and aquire fire that the MSM wont acknoledge, but if we protest before then I think we will give credit to MSM CTR stories.

BackAgain

Dude the Assange Hannity interview is not fake lol

People try to say "He wasn't even looking at him" when he was

Then they say "Assange was standing!" maybe he was just ..........sitting on a stool like many people do in interviews

RecycledUser

Sorry it was fake.

Stacia42

Although I am a very new contributor If you need help at all in the investigation I will do what I can. If I find something new and can't post because I'm not invited, will there be a way to contribute at all if I find anything ?

VieBleu

I have my own list of names that I have kept track of that can be considered trutworthy - everyone should have something similar.

I am so glad there's going to finally be a real redoubt, whether I am asked in or not. This place has always been a nest of abuse, even with it's bright spots.

Piscina

I have my list of dependables too. You're on it.

VieBleu

thanks my friend.

Kawksnahch

I used to have lists of dependables but they kept switching handles.

But oh man can I smell bullshit. I don't even bother reading names anymore. It's all about content and what I'm looking at. Don't want to get sucked into trusting a puppet only get slid some sly shit when it matters. THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE CHOSEN ONE!!!

Gammi

I agree with everything he said, and there are a lot of true investigators here, but the time for action is nearing, time for Trump and Sessions to chime in or, for us to come out in peaceful protest....you can only compile info for so long, something has to give, because I am getting very suspicious of the way things are going with the lack of big fish.....and what seems to be appeasement with what has happened thus far.....throw them a few crumbs and they will go away.....we need to show them there is strength in numbers, and they need to see those numbers.

Narcissism

A month has passed and no big fish have been caught - aside from a few small players nothing's going to happen. Trump isn't in a position to make any big moves and doesn't even seem interested. Time to get acclimated to the fact that the elite screw some of your kids and just move on... Compared with millions dead from a nuclear war or a bio-weapon "What does it matter?"

sunshine702

Yeah I am getting pissed too! PG people have had: their truck trashed, their you tube suspended, their patreon shut off, harrassing phone calls threatening his girlfriend, physically roughed up. The time for action is now. We did the intelligence work but now the actual kingpins need to fall. No one is above the law. Are you listening FBI white hats. We want big fish. Are you listening NYC FBI? What the hell happened! You said a private press conference would happen if the cover up continued with what was on Weiner's laptop. DO YOUR JOBS! This is a bipartisan issue.

dreeeg

Please do not delete this post.

DangerPizza

Omg let me in to the tree house. I want to be included.

SweetCarolyn_4Jesus

The only thing I know to do is keep up with Victurus Libertas youtube channel.

Xax

That jumped the shark. Limited market big league.

VieBleu

People never consider that the public has never stopped talking about that shark jump. Keeps the show alive in the public mind long after relevancy. So jumping the shark may over the long game be a great thing.