ISN'T STRANGE that Alex Jones was never sued by Bill Clinton for calling him a rapist and selling Rape t-shirts?? ( pizzagate )

submitted by matheasysolutions

While this comes to no surprise to anyone here, because Bill is indeed a rapist, it is a very compelling argument to make towards people believing the Clintons are decent human beings. This is because, Info Wars has a very large audience and thus if Bill was innocent, he could easily sue Alex Jones for millions, have the mainstream media push the lawsuit front and center, and LITERALLY cause Info Wars to be shut down overnight.

To illustrate this further, the popular YouTuber Mark Dice got his name quickly removed the from The Guardian's article outlining him as part of the "Alt-Right", by threatening to sue them for defamation: https://youtu.be/TOb81oGidj0?t=4m33s . So it is clear that even a large-scale news outlet would cave to a YouTuber.

Thus this alone is a strong argument to make that Bill Clinton is indeed a rapist, without even needing to deal with any of the specifics. Another reason might just be that the Clintons know they will be digging up an early grave if they personally go after Alex Jones, as he alluded to in his Reddit AMA yesterday ( https://youtu.be/K33Ee9m5xlw?t=7s) ) in which he alluded to having "1000 times worse" material he hasn't exposed yet...

Let me know what you think!

stellarcorpse

this comment made me laugh for some reason.

GeorgeT

Same goes to James Alifantis and Podesta brothers. They could take anyone to ciurt for slander but chose not to? Why - because they are guilty. David Icke is on record calling George Bush snr. A serial child murderer - Bush never got back to Icke!

ObamaFAG1

Poor Bill Clinton has AIDS and wasn't expected to live past 2016. according to Able Danger (field McConnell)he is turning states evidence on Killary the baby eater, Child trafficker, Chinese agent, arms, drugs and child trafficker and overall worthless piece of feces. At one point Field McConnell was talking about Bill rolling over on Hildabeast (the smelly, vile satanist) and Field was saying that Bill was saying that he only had a short time to live and didn't want to spend it in prison and that was why he was rolling over on Satan and when Chelsea HUBBLE was mentioned Field say Bill said "she is not my daughter". LMAO

Gothamgirl

Definetly.

DeathToMasons

No more Alex Jones or Milo please. Contrived characters who hog spotlight and turn things into a circus shoudl be avoided. Anybody in the Truth movement for any length of time knows what "Alex Jones" is.

iamthepizzanow

Any allegations will not be acknowledged. Regardless of innocence or guilt, as it would bring attention to the fact. Don't forget that he straight faced lied on national TV to the American public in regards to Monica Lewinsky. He learned his lesson and will keep his mouth shut at all costs.

dmthirdeye

It's not slander if it's true.

GeorgeHodelDidit

It is also a strong point about Podesta....if the bastard was innocent he could rip some people a new asshole with his little pecker...but he doesnt get anywhere near a court room....because the would have to give the other side rights of discovery and he knows he doesnt want to draw more attention to him and his crimes......

He should sue to clear his name...he does not.....he is guilty as hell.

GeorgeT

Imagine a good, honest owner of a truly kid friendly pizza joint accused of child trafficking. I adked one of my friend's dad who owns a great Italian Pizza Parlor. He told me this, 'he would immediately order the reporter to stop in its tracks, call the mainstream news, FBI (equivalent here in Australia), Archeologist immediately - and if nothing turned up, he would sue utubers pants off. Now parallel this to the way Alifantis reacts. Stages fake shooting, media covers up for him.

Amino69

Jones et al and Info Wars are the supreme gatekeepers, surely no one with half a brain is fooled by this false profit any more?! For those in doubt of what I speak, please pay no more lip service to anyone currently involved with Info Wars until you've researched the myriad reasons for the truth communities accusations against.

GeorgeHodelDidit

Dude Alex Jones has a video of himself screaming to call your congressman and stop the false flag he is hearing about.....he is yelling it could be the World Trade Center and being hit with a plane....46 days before 9/11. Alex Jones may be somewhat hyper, somewhat aggressive, but the dude has brought the facts.....

And he got into Boheminan Grove with a camera and got out again. I think the dude is legit. He may not be everyones cup of tea. His style may rub people wrong. But I dont think he is controlled opposition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBCi-jD6Lf0 Alex Jones BEFORE 9/11

HillBoulder

Bill Cooper predicted 911 before Alex Jones did.

GeorgeHodelDidit

Who the hell is Bill Cooper?

HillBoulder

Bill Cooper was a former naval intelligence officer turned whistleblower. He had the most popular show on the internet called The Hour of Our Time.. He was murdered shortly after 911. He predicted a major terrorist attack in 2001 before anyone else.. I know Alex Jones likes to take credit for being the first to see it coming but it isn't true it was Bill who first broadcast what he felt was the media priming the population for a major attack using osama bin laden as the bogey man. He was a true patriot I highly recommend his work.

TrishaUK

Not going to entertain Anti-Alex Jones stuff. HE IS THE MAIN ONE EXPOSING ALL THESE GHOULS AND 'THEY' ARE ATTACKING HIS INFOWARS - I WILL NOT JOIN IN! COME ON THINK ABOUT IT WE HAVE ENOUGH ENEMIES WITHOUT ATTACKING OUR OWN!!

DeathToMasons

Gullible. Or a shill. Could care less which.

matheasysolutions

Yup, I'm with you. I've always thought he was crazy but after his predictions of satanic ritual elite pedos came true, I've realized just why he is crazy.... because he is correct! #realityisstrangerthanfiction

IlluminatiKing

Bill probably went down that path with other people and lost.

mysecretidentity

Alex Jones is on CIA payroll it's all a facade.

HillBoulder

They would have killed him a long time ago if he wasn't doing what they wanted.. Maybe they will after all this though once his usefulness dries up

DeathToMasons

Bill Cooper was the real deal and exposed AJ for what he is. Bill Cooper was murdered. AJ is promoted by the MSM. Google news has often linked to him. Nuff said.

GeorgeT

Bill Cooper predicted 9-11 to the tee. June 28.

HillBoulder

You got that right! And Cooper would admit the mistakes he made and he even said himself sometimes he was fed disinfo often to obfuscate the truth..I've never heard Alex admit a mistake..ever. If someone else has I'd love to hear it

MrrHandsome

You will need to understand that killing him would only have made non believer stand up and take note. The guy sounds like an absolute crack pot to most people, he has never really been a threat to them up until recently he has been gaining more listeners and helped Trump win the election in some way. Not all of his leaks are legit so he will get some stuff wrong but most have been proven to be true

HillBoulder

I couldn't disagree more... But were all here fighting the same fight man so let's just agree to disagree!

abortionburglar

Not if you understand anything about libel laws in The US and UK.

Wolftrail7272

Wow, never thought of this regarding Bill. Interesting Podesta hasn't sued anyone either...

matheasysolutions

Podesta knows the judge won't buy that it always takes him an hour eating a slice of pizza...

AreWeSure

This is a terrible argument. The libel bar for public officials, especially a president is very, very high. To point where it's not worth it to sue.

Secondly, Jones could very well say it's his opinion, and opinions are protected speech.

And given that Jones holds many, many opinions that no sane person shares, the court could rule that no defamation occurred because no reasonable person would believe the opinion of Alex Jones matters.

DarkMath

"Jones holds many, many opinions that no sane person shares"........Like the CIA uses pedophilia to get dirt on politicians?

Like the Clinton Foundation gang raped Haiti?

Like that hospital in Oklahoma City that does a lot of organ replacements is not in "good standing" due to the lack of an audit trail regarding the donor organs they're getting?

Like that hospital has no affiliation with a University which kind of means its ethics are malleable?

What's that? Which hospital? Oh yeah, you'll have to watch the George Webb videos to find out.

:-D

Mrs_Ogynist01

Wrong. First Lady Melania Trump just sued (& won) a libel case against a blogger for calling her a prostitute.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/melania-trump-settles-lawsuit-against-9774769.amp

He doesn't sue because he's a rapist.

AreWeSure

She didn't "win" because the case never went to trial. They settled. The blogger tried to get the case dismissed on 1st amendment grounds and the judge said, the case could go forward. Then they reached a settlement of an undetermined amount and he retracted and apologized. However, Tarpley.net is still publishing. This suit certainly didn't "shut down" this website overnight.

Since we don't know what the amount of the settlement is, it could have been less than what his lawyer costs would have been to fight the suit. As noted above Jones would have more resources to fight a suit and would love the publicity of it.

The question for the blogger becomes is it worth it to me to spend $200,000 in legal fees to "win" my case? Is it worth it to risk losing?

Trump once sued the author of a book for $5 billion dollars because the author wrote he was not a billionaire. The book was published by Warner Books, so they had to resources to fight the case all the way down the line. It took three years. The case was dismissed and then Trump appealed, Trump finally lost the case, because he wouldn't comply with the discovery requests and kept trying to draw out the process. So this blogger understood he could fighting this for years.

DarkMath

"She didn't "win" because the case never went to trial."

Melania Trump sued the blogger. A short time later he retracted and apologized. But that's not technically "winning". Epic.

Of course technically you're correct AreWeSure. But that's not the issue here. The issue is you are so dogmatically precise about some things but not others.

Where's your dogmatic precision in labeling Laura Silsby a child trafficker after she was, duh, convicted in Haiti of child trafficking?

Technically Laura Silsby is a child trafficker. Hillary intervened and got her out of jail. Technically that means Hillary Clinton condones child trafficking.

Working to get a child trafficker out of jail is technically appalling is it not?

Mrs_Ogynist01

She was the plaintive and SHE accepted the settlement, therefore she won. The amount of the settlement is irrelevant. What is relevant is the fact that she shut down anyone else calling her a prostitute - because she wasn't. Your whole point was that it is too hard for a high profile individual to prove libel/slander - obviously, it's not. A lot of people have called Clinton a rapist. He could have picked someone without as many resources as Alex Jones to make an example of, but he hasn't. Bill Clinton does not sue because he is a rapist and a statutory rapist.

AreWeSure

She still didn't win. She settled......on very favorable terms, but what she didn't do is prove libel/slander. In fact, there's another case with the Daily Mail that is still ongoing. We shall see where that goes. You also don't know if she was the first to offer to settle.

This individual case does not change what I said: "The libel bar for public officials, especially a president is very, very high. To point where it's not worth it to sue."

Hustler Magazine said Jerry Falwell lost his virginity to his mother in an outhouse. He sued and lost.

In answer to the original question, "Isn't it strange......" The answer is a clear no. It's not strange because it's often not worth it, you can sue like Jerry Falwell, spend a lot of time and money and still lose.

Does anyone ask, "Isn't it strange that Alex Jones was never sued by George W. Bush for saying 9/11 was an inside job and selling Tshirts? No. They don't. And for the same reason.

matheasysolutions

The hustler magazine suit was over a parody so that is not comparable to Jones calling Bill a rapist...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hustler_Magazine_v._Falwell

Hustler Magazine, Inc. v. Falwell, 485 U.S. 46 (1988), was a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court held that the First and Fourteenth Amendments prohibit public figures from recovering damages for the tort of intentional infliction of emotional distress (IIED), if the emotional distress was caused by a caricature, parody, or satire of the public figure that a reasonable person would not have interpreted as factual.

Also, the blogger in the Melanie case apologized and admitted the statements were false...

So I'm not sure where you are going with this. The 9/11 case would involve the emails and communications of George W. and other top politicians to be revealed, so it would be best they kept silent.

The question of why Bill Clinton has not sued Alex Jones still remains.

AreWeSure

It's simply not worth it

matheasysolutions

Sorry for being bothersome, but this thought-experiment has me really interested haha

Like in the Melanie vs. Daily Mail case, Daily Mail quickly retracted their earlier article, almost instantly, and was based purely on rumors.

With Info Wars, it is a constantly pushed the Bill is a rapist, for many years, with a large audience, with merchandise sales, and so on.

I honestly can't think of any case close to resembling Info Wars calling, as a matter of fact not opinion, that Bill is a Rapist.

Even if Bill forced Info Wars to issue an apology, it would deal a huge blow to Info Wars. But given the many efforts to shut down InfoWars, I think if Bill was truly innocent, it would be best way to shut down InfoWars...

matheasysolutions

yup.

matheasysolutions

He's selling T-shirts that state Bill Clinton is a rapist, so it's not just his opinion. Also his site along gets close to 30 million visits a month ( https://www.similarweb.com/website/infowars.com) ), and on YouTube/Radio/Social Media that number balloons to much larger.

But yes, Jones would use the crazy card in the lawsuit if Bill were to sue, I highly doubt that would play well in court since the shear amount of viewership Alex Jones, and affiliates such as Paul Watson, etc., have

Also Info Wars has been experiencing many censorship attacks, from Google / Facebook, and recently AdRoll banning them ( http://www.infowars.com/censorship-online-advertisers-shutting-down-conservative-media/) ), so it is clear that they are being attacked and actively being silenced. If Bill was innocent, that would be the best and easiest way to shut down infowars.

LurkingNoMore

I don't think Jones would use the crazy card if he got sued.

He would want a public trial so every one could watch him smite down the vamps in the middle of the court room!

matheasysolutions

I meant if Bill was innocent.

But crazy thing is, there actually is enough evidence for Jones to prove to a Jury and Judge, that the Clintons are in-fact physic vampires...

Diogenes_The_Cynic

No. If you're wealthy and powerful, trying to fight a literal conspiracy theorist means you will lose face for acknowledging them.

matheasysolutions

infowars would be shut down if bill sued them (and was innocent)...

Diogenes_The_Cynic

Responding to them gives infowars legitimacy, so the thinking goes.

matheasysolutions

they would have been shut down years ago, so doesn't matter if they gain "legitimacy", they would be gone.

Also, as I explained in my earlier comment above somewhere:

Also Info Wars has been experiencing many censorship attacks, from Google / Facebook, and recently AdRoll banning them ( http://www.infowars.com/censorship-online-advertisers-shutting-down-conservative-media/)) )), so it is clear that they are being attacked and actively being silenced. If Bill was innocent, that would be the best and easiest way to shut down infowars.

wgtt911

The evidence would have "stood up" in court...