Long_Knife

Exactly. You seem to not be getting the point.

Long_Knife

What? How does that make it ok? Did I defend Obama doing anything? And to Trump "fake news" is quickly becoming anything he doesn't agree with. This is supposed to be America I can decide what is and isn't fake news on my own. Dictatorships pick and choose their news. How do you like pizzagate being called fake news?

Long_Knife

That isn't the point. You either have free speech and freedom of the press or you don't. People can make their own choice about where they do and do not get their news or other information.

ZalesMcMuffin

So much mud in the water. Is this the mud, or the water?

SterlingJB

That's the funny thing about all this. Yeah, we already knew T dealt with the mob, and russia, and all the sick fucks out there. How do you think he got to the big B club. The point is focusing it on T does nothing. Focus on the system. Trumps may or not matter. That said, I hope he does, I hope, in the good wAY

jjonahjackass

This is exhaustive and pretty all-inclusive. A must read for anyone wanting a good picture of the obvious dirt floating around about our Great Orange Leader. Everything from the Epstien and Casablacas associations to his dealings with Fat Tony Salerno and the russian mob. And much more. An excellent primer. And think about it, this is the publicly available stuff. Imagine what actual intelligence agencies , foreign and domestic, have on this guy. I still have a hard time believing that there is really that much authentic grass-roots support for this mobbed up real estate hustler. And to think he's gonna save us from the from the PTB?! I smell astroturf.

SterlingJB

Right. All of this shit was widely known on Ts end rather than Hs end. Not saying you should trust him at all, but the game seems to be it takes a crook to catch a crook. Wishful thinking I know, but best case w/o focusing on the system is T becoming a patsy.

Long_Knife

Why is everyone so quick to defend trump? I don't get it at all. If he is trying to interfere with FBI investigations, blocking media (whether you like them or not censorship is never the answer or else why are any of you even here), fucking around with the Russians etc he needs to be investigated just like anyone else. You guys act like he's a special snowflake or something. If he's clean why is he trying to deflect all this stuff?

zzvoat

If you seriously want to understand this, go to George Webb's YouTube channel and start watching. If we don't understand the deeper story, none of what we get online or on the MSM will make any sense.

rodental

When did he interfere with FBI Investigtions?

Long_Knife

It's said that Priebus asked the FBI to help counter the stories of trump/russians and Comey declined because it's subject to ongoing investigations. I can't look for the link at the moment but it was reported last night or this morning. Google it I'm sure it's easy to locate though. I'm not saying he did or didn't just that he should be subject to the same scrutiny as every other president.

rodental

Priebus claims that he simply asked the FBI to publically state what they had told him in private.

Long_Knife

Depends on what you read.

Bitchybadger

Fuck off Podesta!!

AreWeSure

Trump is in deep, deep trouble.

They just tried to politically interfere with the FBI investigation and that failed. So now they are attacking the press. Sessions is involved and will have to recuse.

Remember the Trump dossier? About 6 Russian diplomats or Intel people have died since that came out

Erovinkin

Krivov

Karlov

Melanin

Chandelon

Polshikov

Churkin

And this will get deleted, but in the end this will be shown to be 100% related to the so-called Pizzagate.

DarkMath

It looks like Andrew McCabe is going to ruin the party AreWeSure. He tried to do some bargaining over the White House and let it slip the whole Russia thing is total "bull shit":

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/02/24/1637340/-At-least-one-FBI-leaker-FBI-Assistant-Director-Andrew-McCabe

And those Russian diplomats, which one was the guy trying to get the U.N. to do an investigation into Organ Harvesting in Kosovo?

As always AreWeSure, I tirelessly await your recognition that the guys you're shilling for done lied to you. You were misinformed.

;-)

stellarcorpse

Who is "delusional" now? The red scare is a figment of the imagination of a party that has lost so badly to a man that is a force of nature. They are struggling to stay relevant in their self induced quagmire. Painfully out of touch with most Americans and still deluding themselves and their media cohorts that they have power. Their power in waning and not even the deep state can save them now. The war between the deep state and Trump et al will be ugly, make no mistake. But Russia has nothing to do with it all. This is an interior matter. Much like the Civil War was and no amount of 'it's the Ruskies propaganda' is going to led to any impeachment of Trump. We are not living in 1965. We are awake. He was elected by the people and is beloved. Any attempt to bring him down through assassinate or otherwise will lead to civil unrest on a scale unprecedented and the powers that be know this. This time they bit off more than they can chew.

THIS COUP WILL NOT SUCCEED.

So no Trump is not in trouble. You and your cohorts are. You time in the spotlight has passed. Nationalism and Populism turn is now. It's time is now. Not just in the USA but worldwide.

AreWeSure

"The red scare"

You're a bit behind the times.

Putin and everybody near him hasn't believed in Communism since the 1980's. He is still authoritarian, but a different flavor of authoritarian.

As you point out Putin doesn't favor communism, but nationalism. He's also promoted the Orthodox Church as well.

Russia is now a kleptocracy, where previous state assets were privatized at a bargain rate to insiders resulted in a bunch of Oligarchs working with mafia crime gangs. Putin when he came into power, he succeeded in centralizing power, he didn't do away with the oligarchs and crime gangs but he made them subservient to the state. You can be rich and powerful in Russia as long you pay fealty. You get into the political arena like Mikhail Khodorkovsky did when he started supporting democracy and you will be destroyed. He was arrested, his company forced into bankruptcy and its assets taken over by Gazprom and Rosneft, the state owned, gas and oil companies.

Putin has been involved in this ever since the KGB was figuring out how to preserve it's money as the Soviet Union fell and he has been at the center of a specific ring of corruption involving fake loans, kickbacks and state contracts since he first deputy mayor of St. Petersburg two decades ago. One genius part of the system was use of common bank accounts. As long as in good standing with the ring you could access the account as needed. If you went against this group, your access to assets was cut off. It also ensured if someone was arrested or died or was killed, the group still had access to these assets.

crazimal

Ok dead Russian spies but mostly while Obama was still in office and trying to ramp up tension with Russia. And the MI6 guy Cruz and Hillary hired to write the dossier, what about him?

AreWeSure

Ok dead Russian spies but mostly while Obama was still in office

That's a complete red herring. This list is not just during Obama's term. It was since the existence of the dossier was reported in the press in late October.

Krivov Dead election Day, November 8th Russian Consulate NYC reported as both "blunt force trauma" and "heart attack."

Polshikov December 20 2016 murdered in Moscow just hours after Andrei Karlov was assassinated in Turkey

Chandelon December 24 2016 found dead in Belgium.

Erovinkin Found dead in the back of his car December 26th. This is the man most closely associated with the dossier. No cause of death has been announced yet.

Malanin found dead January 2016 Athens

Churkin Feb 2017 found dead New York City

Also recently three cybersecurity experts were charged with treason on February 1st.

Sergei Mikhailov Dmitry Dokuchayev Ruslan Stoyanov

The dossier is not going away, our intel services seem to be confirming more and more of it every week now. The MI6 guy is reportedly in hiding.

DarkMath

"our intel services seem to be confirming more and more of it every week now."

Is that kind of like when they kept confirming that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. That went on week after week after week as I recall.

Oh and bee tee dubs, have you ever considered one possible motive to have killed those Russian agents could have been to jump start a war with Russia?

Because it's hard to imagine that Russia would bring down its own jet liner carrying the Russian Army chorus and possibly even chemical weapons investigators looking for proof the rebels in Syria had used Sarin gas?

SayWhatNOWAY

FuckTard go back to UR hole!

derram

https://tweetsave.com/opdeatheaters/status/834904004639477761 :

OpDeathEaters on Twitter: "Evidence of @realDonaldTrump involvement w/ Russia intel, Mobsters, and Child Trafficking. #Anonymous #OpDeathEaters t.co/1KyN2yOhw0"

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PizzaStreamerLive

Shill gtfo