NeedPolyGF

How come the PG Bot gives 5 different titles to the same link?

And, by the way, if Google is suppressing PG, then why is the Bot using Google at all?

reasonedandinformed

Ask the creator of the Bot. It does not just do a search of pizzagate but does a more directed search of the content of the post, which is why it produces more robust results. You can mae suggestions to the Bot maker.

frankenmine

Leverage comments. Find high-ranking MSM news stories talking about PizzaGate and drop a link pointing here in the comments. These will add up.

reasonedandinformed

Well I just tried. Surprise: The few articles that allow comments lock them down a short time after publication. They would never want to allow new or breaking information to interfere with their well-constructed lies that they propagate. The majority of major articles do not even have a comments section as I am sure they would fear allowing the public to chime in with citizen-investigated facts and information. I have also heard that they will delete or suppress negative comments while promoting those that favor them from their CTR brethren and the sheeple who remain fooled by their Pravda-like falsehoods.

reasonedandinformed

Good point. I think people have been doing this, but I will try.

reasonedandinformed

I did not have any personalized search settings or filters. The results I got were replicated by others, but they changed once we started reporting on it. Here is my Edit note that covers this:

Edit: The censorship does not always produce the same results. I did a search on "pizzagate" before posting, and there were zero results for Voat http://archive.is/PFdyg . Now we are seeing some again. This will continue to change as they are ACTIVELY trying to block the public from finding us. A search for "pizzagate voat" will reveal us, but that is meaningless in terms of broadening our reach because this search shows that the person who typed it already knows of voat's existence. We need to reach more people who do not know of us as we are one of the few places on the Internet that is showing the hidden truth of pizzagate. Most results right now include the echo-chamber of articles falsely claiming to debunk pizzagte.

southartful

It doesnt work like that.. you cant just fire up a vouple of keyboards and type really fast and shit... This is a social engineering campaign that we have to thwart.. you cant just fire up hack.exe

chelseaclinton

Why did you not link to the original thread last night exposing this? https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1690808

reasonedandinformed

I did not think to do it. Will add it now.

NotHereForPizza

reasonedandinformed

Not for overseas searches on Google. Searches in the UK produce zero results for voat.

VieBleu

I've also heard suggested to use major brand names - like ProctorGamblegate as a substitute for pizzagate as there is no way they will block a major corporations name.

reasonedandinformed

But then we could run into copyright and trademark issues. #PedoGate is actually a very nice descriptor that gives the high-level picture succinctly.

VieBleu

copyright issues would shine a light on the censorship. The censorship is what converts some people on just that alone.

karenrussell63

listing this here if anyone is curious, but you can see all entities that have requested removals: https://www.google.com/transparencyreport/removals/copyright/searchdata/domains/?id=voat.co

Now, it appears that the DMCA request was made because of 'gate' in pizza gate as is evident from this small sampling from https://www.lumendatabase.org/notices/13959495

  • [https://]watchseriesfree.to/episode/Dragon_ Gate _s1_e10.html
  • [https://]voat.co/v/pizza gate
  • [https://]vid.me/pWpx/steins- gate -movie-ending-fuka-ryouiki-no-d%C3%A9j%C3%A0
  • [http://]subsmax.com/subtitles-movie/dragon-tiger- gate -eng-srt/478310
  • [http://]stuffpoint.com/steins gate /videos/222489/
  • [https://]subscene.com/subtitles/the-warriors- gate

To bad google doesn't verify that these requests are valid..

karenrussell63

open incognito window or clear cookies, and try your search again. google shows personalized results.

reasonedandinformed

I just did a search on Google UK; Voat does not show up at all in the first five pages of a google search on pizzagate: https://www.google.co.uk/#q=pizzagate&

I stopped looking at five pages, but this can only happen via censorship as we have an extremely active community investigating pizzagate, with over 12K people, many of whom are overseas.

Votescam

"pizzagate" should also be linked to pedo-gate -- and should also come up in any search of James Alefantis - that is back to Voat or to the Pizzagate.com website :)

reasonedandinformed

Yep. #pedogate is powerful. It overcomes a lot of the limits of pizzagate (censorship, previous misconceptions, the idea that it is a loony theory about a restaurant) while adding depth to the reality we have uncovered.

Votescam

Thank you for the reply -- :)

Am also hoping that the arrests of pedophile rings continue on because that is another opportunity to force the MSM to acknowledge those arrests and the broader picture of human trafficking.

We also see the lack of any true reporting on the drug trafficking which often goes hand in hand with the human trafficking/organ trafficking. A bit of honesty about all of that would be helpful to the public, as well.

No business exceeds the profits of the drug trade and that includes our own MIC and profits from it.

reasonedandinformed

Yes. The effort to stop drug trafficking and secure our borders is one of the key reasons that the CIA has been attempting to undermine Trump and his administration. His efforts are squeezing their sources of income and control from all directions (money sources by stopping the drug/human trafficking and power sources by going after the pedo blackmail operation).

Votescam

Much of the drug trafficking goes on underground (literally, in tunnels) and in our skies. How many Governors like Bill Clinton were involved in protecting drug trafficking at their local airports? We are all hoping that Trump will break up the pedo rings and go after higher up's, but what we are seeing is an effort to protect himself, his tax reports, and for the GOP to make government even more secret. Unfortunately, a wall not only shuts out many innocent people, but it also shuts in all Americans.

n080d33

up up up

reasonedandinformed

Right. Please look at my comment attached to the top-voted comment at the top, and it will explain more about what is happening. This censorship is a moving target, but it is real. Here is an archive of results from this morning on a google search of pizzagate: http://archive.is/PFdyg (notice how VOAT is not listed).

Blacksmith21

I'm not LARPing here. I just searched "Pizzagate" on Google, from a US IP address and these are the search results. The complete opposite of what I have been seeing for months:

http://imgur.com/a/lxqVb

Edit 1: I'm pretty sure Trump & Co. are aware of this as well. I wonder if they put the thumbscrews to Google and said "take your pick".

reasonedandinformed

Check out these results from the google UK search: https://www.google.co.uk/#q=pizzagate& * (voat does not show at all on page 1). We have over 12K subscribers and massive activity, so there is only one explanation: Overt censorship by google.

Blacksmith21

I'd like to be hopeful that something "happened" here at Google and that the banhammer on free speech might have been lifted and the people will awaken. That's all it takes. Tipping point.

reasonedandinformed

We all would like this. They are still actively blocking voat for people searching google in the UK: https://www.google.co.uk/#q=pizzagate& *

Note the absence of any voat results despite a very active community with over 12K subscribers.

Blacksmith21

I don't think that many are active.

reasonedandinformed

Right, but the level of activity on voat outstrips any other place right now on the internet...not even a close call. How does an article written many months ago show higher than a place when there is huge daily activity with cross linking, and with the use of the word pizzagate throughout threads and IN THE DOMAIN NAME itself? Natural search results should have the first page dominated by voat.

Blacksmith21

Good points. I know just enough about this topic to be dangerous. Let's see how long free speech lasts.

Blacksmith21

I don't think you can change the verbiage on the splash sub title, but if you could get the "non-partisan" in that. The sheeple, bluepilled, and fencesitters have all been programmed to equate "pizzagate" to "alt-right". That's why the visceral reaction when you mention it. They must know that this issue infects everything. Remember "Democratic Party. Republican Party. [Check] Pizza Party."

reasonedandinformed

You are absolutely right. I wish I had realized this earlier when I created the splash page, but I know of no way to edit it. I soon discovered that putting the words non-partisan with pizzagate or pedogate really helped to disarm people who came in with the alt-right assumption or who will resist if they think this is just about getting HRC. I want to nail anyone, even if it is someone for whom I previously voted or had placed in high esteem. It is not easy on the mind when you discover that people you trusted do this kind of evil. I did change the verbiage in the top comment to reflect this:

To learn more about this evil that affects all sides of the political spectrum and begin contributing, just go here: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate

Blacksmith21

@reasonedandinformed

Excellent job here, FWIW. Did you see my other link from the search I just conducted. It brings up the most relevant sites - here, pizzagate.com, wordpress article. What is going on here?

And yes, I have lost most of my political opinions as it pertains to #Pizzagate #savethekids. The more I see what is happening, the more I think a shitton of GOP may have been ensnared as well. Lock up any and all. Execute the worst.

reasonedandinformed

UK Google is flat-out blocking voat from the first page right now: https://www.google.co.uk/#q=pizzagate& *

reasonedandinformed

It keeps changing on google. Please look at my comment attached to the top-voted comment at the top, and it will explain more about what is happening. This censorship is a moving target, but it is real. Here is an archive of results from this morning on a google search of pizzagate: http://archive.is/PFdyg (notice how VOAT is not listed).

gumshoe_mob

There is an official organization named "save the children" whose mission is to protect boys and girls from harm. What would happen if your idea became popular and we later discovered that the organization was problematic? After all, there have been several links already to pedophile enablers being put in charge of these groups.

reasonedandinformed

We can incorporate that into our messaging. We tie #SaveTheKids to whatever target we desire (such as the voat platform). Once here, they can learn the truth about NGOs. The purpose is to reach more people who have yet to learn about or visit voat or other platforms exposing the truth.

Newfind

Tag Pete Za Gate somewhere in ti

BlinkAndUMissIt

I don't necessarily agree with the whole new hashtag thing....primarily because it already has plenty of momentum and has generated more than enough attention on both sides of the equation.
Changing this only confuses people and shows there's no stability or confidence in those that are behind the cause. Stand your ground and stand firm - it will all come to light. In most cases, censoring this simply only helps us become more resourceful and majority of this all is archived....but even with any kind of censoring- we're not going away.

Besides, what's to say in another week or month that the suggested hashtag isn't "censored" in searches also....change it again?...and again...and again...No thanks. I'll stand fast with #pizzagate

BTW, here's my search as of a few minutes ago: http://imgur.com/a/3SJPv

peacebringer

This makes sense, stick with what is already out there. However, nothing wrong with other avenues.

reasonedandinformed

If the censorship is real, and it is, we have to find solutions. In an ideal world, we would never encounter this. While censorship is a compelling way to explain the truth we have discovered, it is only helpful if we continue to grow the base of those who get exposed to this truth (more newbies). To the degree it is happening, we need to continue to find ways to reach the masses who have yet to be exposed to the truth. #SaveTheKids is really a hashtag that would be impossible for TPTB to censor without huge negative results. It also explains our true mission. I also like #pedogate as it succinctly describes the problem. No one is forcing anyone to adopt new tags, but I have found these two tags to do better in reaching those who did not know about pizzagate and in getting them engaged. If you do not think pizzagate is compromised, you might combine the tags, but I have found that it will literally limit the reach of the message. Take a look at this archived search result, which was done today and which prompted my post: http://archive.is/PFdyg

GeorgeT

I got zero results for voat, untill I actually typed pizzagate voat. SaveTheKids is good, taps into primal fear of parents.

reasonedandinformed

Yes, and it also shows that our goal is not a political witch hunt but to stop the sick pedos, regardless of party affiliation. This effort is non-partisan , with the search for truth and justice being the common bond. I am fighting alongside people with whom I would likely have engaged in a heavy political debate several months ago. People in all parties (Dems/GOP, Labour/Conservative/Liberal) must unite in the effort to expose this evil, stop these sick people and bring them to justice, and free these poor children.

reasonedandinformed

Totally get it. It already had major legs with "pizzagate," which is why it was hard for people to rebrand and made it easier for the censors. I prefer #pedogate as it gives a better summary of what this is all about and gets us past resistance by people who think it a tin-foil theory about a DC pizza place. Pedogate really explains the whole picture, from the media behavior to why we really never see these stories get the exposure they deserve to why investigators who get too deep end up being suicided. It really does illuminate the entire set of behaviors surrounding the story of "pizzagate." My effort may be called rebranding, but it is really a practical method to dodge the censorship to reach those who have not yet found out platform.

LostandFound

http://archive.is/PFdyg - verified search results coming in - not listed

reasonedandinformed

Thank you. You guys are great. In my haste to deal with the censorship, I forgot to document it. Results on google keep changing, but this is great proof of exactly what they were doing when I made this post. A great way to red-pill those who are new to the investigation. TPTB try the hardest to hide those things that are truly damaging.

LostandFound

All G my friend, were going to bust the lid off this even if it kills a few more of us! pitty the DMCA notice gets stripped

carbanara

You could use HRC2020 instead

reasonedandinformed

The evil infects both sides of the aisle. We should always keep this in mind when reaching out to others, not limiting it to some scandal of the left and HRC. Tweets that have had the most reach are the ones that describe this as a non-partisan evil infecting Dems and GOP, inviting people to take a look into the truth that the corporate media has been trying to hide from you. This helps to disarm people, who tend to be in one camp or the other (by design if you look into Tavistock), as part of the cognitive dissonance problem people have is believing that "my candidate" ("my favorite actor") could be involved in this. When they see that some who we have identified are persons they have always seen negatively, it helps them to open their eyes and look deeper.

carbanara

I agree completely. I guess i'm just being bitter.

reasonedandinformed

I personally thought of Hillary as evil prior to this, but my views on Bush have also changed. We need to go where the truth takes us.

Candygram_for_Mongo

Thanks for your efforts. I noticed google image search for Pizzagate is going strong. Maybe we should push pizzagate images to include a v/pizzagate watermark, link back to voat.

reasonedandinformed

I like the idea even if I am not sure exactly how that gets implemented. I guess you mean that the image is a direct link to the platform. To the degree that they are literally censoring v/pizzagate , which has been ongoing from the start, this might be a better link (as it will still get them here): https://voat.co/v/humanrights/1490856

peacebringer

I can find the v/pizzagate via google search

reasonedandinformed

Google in the UK brings zero first-page results for Voat: https://www.google.co.uk/#q=pizzagate& *

reasonedandinformed

The issue is a search on "pizzagate" is being censored. The results change by the minute, but when I posted this, VOAT was literally not in any results. There was a DMCA message when I first made this post, now removed, that explained the censorship due to a DMCA complaint. The complain link still lists this platform as blocked: https://www.lumendatabase.org/notices/13959495 (just search for voat on the results and you will see).

equineluvr

I have no problems with search results on Voat using Smart Page. It is layered upon Google.

https://www.startpage.com/

Smart Page is confidential; they don't report to Google.

Why anybody would still use Google is beyond me.

reasonedandinformed

Understood, but we are trying to reach the masses, who rely on google, FB, Twitter, YT. We have to find ways to reach these people despite ongoing censorship. Some of the best evidence we have of the reality of #pedogate is the level of censorship and false reporting that we have seen.

reasonedandinformed

The fact that they are trying so many methods to censor or block is extremely telling. It is real and is the BEST evidence to show to people who need to be converted to at least take a look. Why would there be such a massive effort to block this, including writing articles that claim to debunk things without any effort to look into the merit and while using the red-herring straw man thesis that "Hillary was running a pedo ring from a restaurant"...if there is no merit to it?

Blackkcalb

or don't use google except for certain searches, I have found this very effective. www.dogpile.com

peacebringer

Interestingly, I have voat come up #2 with a google search. Dogpile does not bring it up.

reasonedandinformed

This is about reaching the large universe of people who can join our efforts who DO RELY on google and the like. We need to have ways to reach these people through these censored platforms (including Twitter, FB, YT).

Cleareyes

I'll upvote this later when i get more to use lol. i search pizzagate on FB and Twitter everyday and can still find info easily though. But yes i do know they are compromised and can't be trusted, saw censorship with my own eyes these past months. I only joined twitter to promote pgate and will delete when i'm done and will notify my network to do the same.

reasonedandinformed

google pizzagate alone, and scroll to the bottom for this message:

In response to a complaint we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint that caused the removal(s) at LumenDatabase.org.

Link to the complaint where v/pizzagate is listed as blocked: https://www.lumendatabase.org/notices/13959495

On FB and Twitter, they use a shadow banning technique. It is sometimes blatant and sometimes subtle, but I have experienced it. One way they do this is to show a tweet about pizzagate only to those followers who have limited followers, blocking it from those who have large and engaged followers. There have been many posts about this issue by others in this forum. So you may think it is not being blocked, but it is. On YouTube, they will suppress results from showing or suppress views, again as a way to limit exposure to larger audiences. The techniques serve to allow those currently engaged to generally connect with others, so it is not easily seen, but they limit getting this truth out to people in the general public who have VERY large audiences.

Edit: The DMCA message at the bottom of page one on a google search of pizzagate appears to have disappeared around 11:45 EST. I am no longer seeing this result. We are still in their banned database, as evidenced here (related to anime?!): https://www.lumendatabase.org/notices/13959495

Regardless, we need these workaround strategies as pizzagate is a compromised term on all of the major platforms like google, FB twitter, and YT. They are going to major lengths to restrict our exposure to those who already know about pizzagate and to limit exposure to the general public. It could be that the suppression relates to cache results in visiting voat: That is, if you search on pizzagate and a cache review of history does not show you have been to voat, the results could be different and block voat. This is a just a guess, but we absolutely confirmed google censorship of voat this morning.

Edit 2: @LostandFound created an archive that shows the results we were getting this morning on a google search of pizzagate: http://archive.is/PFdyg (proves that voat was literally scrubbed from the results). https://voat.co/v/pizzagate is specifically listed in the banned results page off of that link - https://www.lumendatabase.org/notices/13959495 .

Cleareyes

Just checked FB. 90k people are talking about pizzagate right now and about 1k talking about pedogate.

Cleareyes

Thanks, wouldn't put it past them, will use pedogate and other terms too then. I have the similar web toolbar, says Voat received 5M visits in the last month, i also see different groups on fb posting a lot and gaining members, i do agree with your comments though and will have to counter their suppression attempts. Until the high level arrests take place, i can't let my regular posting about it slide much so might as well put effort in being more effective.

GeorgeT

This has gone beyond pizzagate, we have to think of several memes.

MolochHunter

I like #HolocaustOfInnocence , because to me #savethekids might be mistaken for some african hunger charity.

My current mode on twitter is to effectively only use memes, minimal text or hashtagging. I have a swag of meme images suitable to different conversational threads

reasonedandinformed

Yes. We need to actively work around the censorship as it is happening and growing every day...critical to find solutions to get exposed to the millions who have never seen a word of truth about #pedogate.

THE_LIES_OH_THE_LIES

Try to speak about the real 9/11 and bring actual scientific proof of the nukes that were used. You will experience the same censorship. Try to speak about the pyramids like a scientist. same thing. I am sorry to let you know this isn't new.

GeorgeT

I presume you read 9-11 book by Judy Wood.

THE_LIES_OH_THE_LIES

That book is insane.

GeorgeT

As an engineer myself I found it eye opening. Jessy Ventura mentioned it in his book - American Conspiracies.

THE_LIES_OH_THE_LIES

Does she not talk about holograms and lasers and shit? I don't give a fuck if you claim to be an engineer. You will find that (making unproveable claims about yourself) doesn't serve you well around here. We only deal with facts, not messengers.

GeorgeT

What's your problem mate, did you forget to take your medications! And please watch your language! You are at the wrong place pal. Trust me, take medications!

THE_LIES_OH_THE_LIES

?? da fuq

GeorgeT

Did you troll me last time regarding my liking Judy Wood's book? If it wasn't you then I apologize. Somebody is hacking and trolling. And they are obvious trolls. Again if it wasn't you applogy.

THE_LIES_OH_THE_LIES

I am not trolling you. I haven't read the book but I thought that it was the 9/11 book about "advanced energy" technology being used or something. It's really fucking simple. Dmitri Khalezov had it figured out in 2005. They put tactical nukes underneath the buildings at 3 locations, at 70 m depth, and detonated them.

GeorgeT

I will look into it. Thanks for the info.

reasonedandinformed

Yes, but when it literally involves the horror inflicted upon children, it sickens me when I see how much it is censored and how easily normal people dismiss it without actually looking into it. We are making strides every day with our efforts.

Grifter42

Quick, someone photoshop Podesta's head on Pedobear, and Chris Hansen's face on Pepe!

dookiehowzer

when i googled pizzagate voat was 2 of the top 3 results, is it just me because of cache? i dunno

screenshot of my search just now http://imgur.com/4b1ShAO

reasonedandinformed

I am in the US. Before I posted this, I did a search on google using pizzagate, and we were not showing at all on the results http://archive.is/PFdyg . The link at the bottom (with the DMCA complaint) shows us listed for blocking: https://www.lumendatabase.org/notices/13959495

Because google is constantly updating, things have changed in the last hour, but the issue is still there. Google, FB, Twitter, YT are all trying to find ways to either block or censor our results to limit exposure to the voat platform related to pizzagate. Given the size of the community and engagement, we should dominate the results of any search on the term pizzagate, but we do not due to overt censorship. #pedogate may be a better term to work around this issue while explaining in a better way what we have really uncovered.

redditsuckz

Google.com search pizzagate and v/pizzagate shows up but not with other google website searches;

Example Google UK voat doesnt show up.

Google pizzagate on google.co.uk and only on the second page does v/pizzagate/new show up

https://www.google.co.uk

http://www.genealogyintime.com/articles/country-guide-to-google-search-engines-page3.html

reasonedandinformed

Here is an archive of results from this morning on a google search in the US of pizzagate: http://archive.is/PFdyg (notice how VOAT is not listed).

redditsuckz

You have to use the uk google search;

https://www.google.co.uk

Search pizzagate on google.co.uk

reasonedandinformed

Yep. No results on page one for voat right now when you do this: https://www.google.co.uk/#q=pizzagate& *

reasonedandinformed

google "pizzagate" alone, and you WILL NOT find voat. If you do, it is a change from an hour ago. This is the point of the censorship. If someone has voat in the search, they already know of us. If they google just pizzagate, they may be curious, wanting to learn more, but they will not find this platform due to the censorship. What they will find are "fake news" articles that falsely claim to have debunked this. You will see a DMCA notice at the bottom of the page (make sure to scroll down to see and click on it), and v/pizzagate is literally one of the listed sites that is being blocked. [To find this, just do a search on the results in the complaint for voat since it is a long list.]

Since this censorship is a moving target, the results may vary a bit, but there is an absolute effort to block, or at least suppress, voat from showing up in results on google, in youtube searches/views, on twitter (where I and many others have been shadowbanned, blocked, or had accounts closed). This is an ongoing issue, so we need to find ways to get people to our site without using the term "pizzagate," which results in reduced exposure to those who do not know about the truth revealed on voat.

Edit: @LostandFound created an archive that shows the results we were getting this morning on a google search of pizzagate: http://archive.is/PFdyg (proves that voat was literally scrubbed from the results). https://voat.co/v/pizzagate is specifically listed in the banned results page off of that link - https://www.lumendatabase.org/notices/13959495 .

pinklb_q

Just visited from my browser (and I've never been on Voat from it) and it still shows up about 5-7 links down. So...

reasonedandinformed

Yes, but it was not showing AT ALL this morning due to the censorship effort. Here: http://archive.is/PFdyg

At least we have documented this even if it is temporarily reduced as a problem...but it still does not show voat in google searches of pizzagate in other countries. Example in UK google: https://www.google.co.uk/#q=pizzagate& * (not on first 5 pages, and then I stopped).

GeorgeT

Same with utube, unless I type the name of an actual channel, for example 'Titus Frost latest' I get the latest from that blogger, but if I type in pizzagate I only get results from 3 months ago, and interestingly from Alex Jones, and Steven Colbert and others debunking it.

reasonedandinformed

Yes. We need to really create an updated thread that exposes the various methods to censor in one place. It can be very subtle but very effective as someone who does NOT know about voat/pizzagate truth would not even know what they were missing...being exposed only to the "false debunking" would cause them to simply dismiss and not look further as there literally is "nothing more to see" due to the censoring techniques.

reasonedandinformed

Yes. But here is an archived result on a google search of pizzagate from this morning that shows the real censorship problem: http://archive.is/PFdyg (notice how VOAT is not listed).

redditsuckz

its because dookiehowzer is using google.com /USA and you are using google.ie /Ireland

For some reason v/pizzagate is showing up in the US Google search but not in other countries.

Here are other google top level domains of other countries;

http://www.genealogyintime.com/articles/country-guide-to-google-search-engines-page3.html

reasonedandinformed

v/pizzagate what not showing on a US google search of pizzagate this morning when I first made my post: http://archive.is/PFdyg . Google is very actively trying to censor as we have also seen on Twitter, FB, and YT.

redditsuckz

Check the archive link...its https://www.google.ie/search?q=pizzagate& *&rct=j

Thats google.ie /Ireland

Cleareyes

Yes i saw voat being shared on twitter the other day too now that i remember, like 4 tweets in one hour were linked to voat threads

reasonedandinformed

They are censoring on twitter in a very shady way. Some threads have written about this, but it appears one main method is to hide any reference to pizzagate/voat to followers who have large and engaged audiences. So someone with 200 followers may see it, but the person with 100K followers will not even see the same tweet. The person posting the tweet will never know, but this has been documented. The censorship is creative and a moving target, but it is very real.

Millennial_Falcon

Same.

reasonedandinformed

google pizzagate alone, and scroll to the bottom for this message:

In response to a complaint we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint that caused the removal(s) at LumenDatabase.org.

Link to the complaint where v/pizzagate is listed as blocked: https://www.lumendatabase.org/notices/13959495

LostandFound

I tried earlier ( Europe ) and can confirm that voat has been delisted. As soon as I introduce a typo its back. I have nothing to gain by perpetuating this, 100% confirm from here anyways.

reasonedandinformed

type "pizzagate" in google, and you will not find us at all in the google results. We are censored, with a notice at the bottom of the search page. This is important since the general public relies heavily on google. I have thought for a long time that we need to use #SaveTheKids or #pedogate to work around the overt and hidden censorship of pizzagate.

DarkMath

"type "pizzagate" in google, and you will not find us at all in the google results."........I just did and I got several links to voat. I also tried in Microsoft Exchange, opened google page and entered "pizzagate" and hit search.

Are you based in the US?

reasonedandinformed

I am. Before I posted this, I did a search on google using pizzagate, and we were not showing at all on the results http://archive.is/PFdyg . The link at the bottom (with the DMCA complaint) shows us listed for blocking: https://www.lumendatabase.org/notices/13959495

Because google is constantly updating, things have changed in the last hour, but the issue is still there. Google, FB, Twitter, YT are all trying to find ways to either block or censor our results to limit exposure to the voat platform related to pizzagate. Given the size of the community and engagement, we should dominate the results of any search on the term pizzagate, but we do not due to overt censorship. #pedogate may be a better term to work around this issue while explaining in a better way what we have really uncovered.

DarkMath

I'd never heard of that lumen database site. I checked out the link you sent but it said copyright violation of some Anime cartoon characters. I don't get it. Pizzagate doesn't have anything to do with Anime. What am I missing.

reasonedandinformed

  1. Google pizzagate.
  2. Scroll to the bottom of the page to see the DMCA message. Wait, I just did this, and the DMCA message is gone. It was there 10 minutes ago. I am copying and pasting what I had found before at the bottom of the page one results:

In response to a complaint we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint that caused the removal(s) at LumenDatabase.org.

Link to the complaint where v/pizzagate is listed as blocked: https://www.lumendatabase.org/notices/13959495

I do not know why the results have changed, but there was active censorship, when I posted this, of the voat platform where voat literally did not show in the results http://archive.is/PFdyg .

Edit: BTW, I had the exact same question. Why would we be censored related to anime? But you can see it in the link I provided. This censorship is a real problem, but it is a moving target.

DarkMath

"moving target".........I agree. And I don't doubt that DMCA message was real. To be honest there's nothing TPTB can do to stop the truth from getting out.

This was bound to happen. Abraham Lincoln said it best: "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."

reasonedandinformed

By the way, someone who types both pizzagate and voat will get our results, but that means they already know about voat. The issue is to direct people to this platform who have never heard about voat and to get them exposed to the truth of pizzagate, dodging the long list of lies promulgated by the corporate media that populate the results in any native search of the term.