Clarification about Google censoring pizzagate searches ( pizzagate )

submitted by throwaway89209834

I keep seeing people say that Google is censoring all voat.co/v/pizzagate searches when in reality they are censoring the SINGLE link that was in the DCMA take down list or URLs, which is for https://voat.co/v/pizzagate and that is the link that is being hidden. It is not censoring other links from voat for pizzagate.

My bot is working just fine for finding new and old posts and when I searched pizzagate just now, voat is the third result - http://i.imgur.com/gWpE5vc.png

At the bottom you see it censored 1 result

http://i.imgur.com/FMEtA3C.png

That result is the https://voat.co/v/pizzagate link

I just want to make sure that disinfo isn't being spread based on a misunderstanding and please question those trying to enact large changes based on this misunderstanding, like moving to change the general name of the investigation to #SaveTheKids or whatever. It is IMO not needed and counter-intuitive at this point in the investigation.

throwaway89209834

You are conflating the result of SEO with "google censorship". https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1697916/8314318

VieBleu

sticking with #pedogate is a good idea now though. Make the change.

throwaway89209834

I tried to correct you here - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1697230/8312795 - if that is all you have to say then I have to question your motives here.

VieBleu

for the second time, I am not arguing with you. I question your motives if you think using #pedogate is THAT bad of an idea. That is an idea that is floating widely with nothing to do with the censoring discussion

throwaway89209834

This submission has one sentence about my opinion of not re-branding and you come in here after our comment exchange about your google search disinformation thread and all you have to say is that "rebranding is a good idea".

I'm done commenting with you.

bopper

@VieBleu She's a good guy. Or he.

throwaway89209834

I correct them yet they don't delete their disinfo post or show any inclination that they acknowledge they are wrong. I make a thread showing proof, and they just comment in opposition against the one sentence that is least related to this posting, "be wary of those trying to rebrand pizzagate based on disinformation"

I know I come off as crass and abrasive, but I don't have time or patience for people who will parrot disinformation yet refuse to self-correct when it is brought to their attention.

VieBleu

You really are going too far. I can't be expected to specifically jump at your command, I just didn't get what was happening. You were REALLY rude and it was uncalled for. Stop bad mouthing me.

You should have spelled out that you expected me to delete my post - I didn't know that was what you were saying. When it was deleted that was fine with me.

I have asked roundhouse 1776 to do the same. I've never even heard of them, much less argued with them. When shills change their names all the time then yes perhaps under another name I have said something but I protect the forum fiercely and I have a great reputation except with 2 mods that want to allow harrassment doxing and vigilante justice posts and bigotry - I have always thought they were wrong to allow that stuff here and had go rounds about it but that was months ago now.

I'm not going to let these unfounded attacks over nada stand unanswered.

EDIT: roundhouse1776 who didn't lose a chance to jump in and comment to you that he and I had argued "on several occassions" is a liar, a shill and has been exposed today on this thread https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1700438 .

His lie about our non-existent "arguments" alerted me to his shillery, but many others are aware of it as you can see on that thread including mod abortionburger.

RoadPizza

I appreciate you making the pizzagatebot, but that doesn't mean you are better than other people, so stop being so smug. I'm done commenting with you. ;)

bopper

It was just a misunderstanding. On here it's like bumper cars. He or she has been around here longer than me, they're pretty well respected ... I understand what you're saying but they didn't mean any harm, it was just a quick comment off the top of the head, something they'd been mulling over for a while ... I mean the whole "what are we going to call it thing."

throwaway89209834

I asked mods to flag their thread as disinfo, they just deleted it instead. So it is taken care of either way.

roundhouse1776

VieBleu has done the same thing to me on several occasions. Best to just ignore them when they want to get into an argument over petty details.

VieBleu

You and I have NEVER had an argument certainly not "on several occassions" unless you are talking about under your many other handles shill. Your comment history speaks for itself. Also I did not argue at all with OP, was fine with the deletion, it was complicated.

I did disagree with OP about "pedogate" vs "pizzagate" and made exactly 1 statement about it, which is not an argument.

Prove even 1 argument between us or admit you are a wormtongue liar who sidles up and whispers untruths because that's what you do.

VieBleu

yeah I know...it got really got witchy bitchy testy testy over this issue for some reason.

bopper

I can see your heart from here :)

VieBleu

: ) yay - kindness is so appreciated around here, and in such short supply.

bopper

I just saw a brand new member making a comment in the Comey/Wiretap thread going on. He said, "This is my first post here guys so go easy on me."

It's like people have watched us here and are afraid we're going to drop a bomb on their heads :)

I've put out enough fires today, another one was some people beating up on someone who mixed up the two words bazaar and bizarre :) To be fair, there are some very nice people here too. Ok I'll be quiet now.

VieBleu

lol this is definitely a war zone if not quite a concentration camp.

bopper

Took me a while to figure that out! Now I look back at some of my comments and posts and am glad I wasn't destroyed ... but I said I'd shut up now :)

RoadPizza

Can we all just get along and save the children, this is not about our egos.

VieBleu

exactly. well said.

VieBleu

ok. that was just my comment. Pretty innocent one at that. No argument with your post at all.

Not sure why you are so aggressive but it seems like there's been a misunderstanding on your part.

bopper

You're right, I just now got the same result as you ... hours ago though the pig guy troll was number one when I googled pizzagate, then it disappeared.

Branding is important, if you change from pizzagate you will lose months of branding equity, not smart.

throwaway89209834

hours ago though the pig guy troll was number one when I googled pizzagate, then it disappeared.

Engine search results go up and down due to a bunch of variables, but there is also what is called SEO and there are black hat SEO and white hat SEO methods.

http://searchengineland.com/guide/what-is-seo

So, disinfo agents will use SEO to bring other results further up on the list to bury a result they want hidden. This has nothing to do with DCMA censorship.

Just a FYI of what you could of seen happening.

ThePuppetShow

I have 0 results for voat when searching "pizzagate" on mobile. I went 6 pages deep.

bopper

I understand SEO pretty well, thanks. It's almost as if google had to be in on it (which might be a stretch), but I don't know. It was a pretty fast climb to the top. I understand blackhat. And the good guys still lose sadly.

VieBleu

HI bopper - I disgree. We are two months in, pizzagate has too much baggage. Better to change now still early in. But change to #pedogate which is already fairly widely expected.

bopper

Yes, I am seeing this more and more, pedogate I mean, so that term is getting some pretty heavy traction.

bopper

You might be right, but it would have to be done pretty quickly. If baggage is significant yes.

I'm in marketing. Just recently when a successful company came to us to have his family biz logo changed, after he'd had it for decades (granted, decades is a long time, not months, like pizzagate), first thing our (small) team said was, "Why do you want to change it?"

It can be done but it's risky. Coca-cola and Apple and others have had to do this type thing but it was an evolving thing, over years. That's of course not a good apples to apples comparison.

So, I guess everything would need to be weighed ... but I def understand what you're saying. Glad I don't have to make that decision! :)