HugoWeaving

I see the **"swirl" **everywhere. It's everywhere I look now. I get the trigger syndrome, and have a new respect for PTSD victims. It's why you need to step back every once in a while and get a reality check. Be safe.

Waltherchick3118

oops, yes..Edward...thank you

Fuckingcucks

I think what they are saying is that the traditional phrasing of what it is they do sounds fucking boring and puts people to sleep so they call it spicy sockets so that they can relay the idea- I am guessing that the "spicy" triggers a pizza craving. This dude just sounds kind of weird and like he wants to be a cool guy, but a suit has adhered to his being lol.

had_enough

Reading it as a tech it could just be real bad humor (common among techs lol), but "extra spicy sockets" sounds like foreign girls to me. The "catatonia" reference is odd too... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catatonia

fuckreddit__

i saw this one too! i think all 200+ pages of file itself can also be read online here: http://zguide.zeromq.org/page:all

I thought this was the most interesting part:

We live in a connected world, and modern software has to navigate this world. So the building blocks for tomorrow's very largest solutions are connected and massively parallel. It's not enough for code to be "strong and silent" any more. Code has to talk to code. Code has to be chatty, sociable, well-connected. Code has to run like the human brain, trillions of individual neurons firing off messages to each other, a massively parallel network with no central control, no single point of failure, yet able to solve immensely difficult problems. And it's no accident that the future of code looks like the human brain, because the endpoints of every network are, at some level, human brains.

If you've done any work with threads, protocols, or networks, you'll realize this is pretty much impossible. It's a dream. Even connecting a few programs across a few sockets is plain nasty when you start to handle real life situations. Trillions? The cost would be unimaginable. Connecting computers is so difficult that software and services to do this is a multi-billion dollar business.

So we live in a world where the wiring is years ahead of our ability to use it. We had a software crisis in the 1980s, when leading software engineers like Fred Brooks believed there was no "Silver Bullet" to "promise even one order of magnitude of improvement in productivity, reliability, or simplicity".

Brooks missed free and open source software, which solved that crisis, enabling us to share knowledge efficiently. Today we face another software crisis, but it's one we don't talk about much. Only the largest, richest firms can afford to create connected applications. There is a cloud, but it's proprietary. Our data and our knowledge is disappearing from our personal computers into clouds that we cannot access and with which we cannot compete. Who owns our social networks? It is like the mainframe-PC revolution in reverse.

In terms of weird pizza stuff, it does have the "strange craving for pizza" line. this is kinda weird too:

We took a normal TCP socket, injected it with a mix of radioactive isotopes stolen from a secret Soviet atomic research project, bombarded it with 1950-era cosmic rays, and put it into the hands of a drug-addled comic book author with a badly-disguised fetish for bulging muscles clad in spandex. Yes, ZeroMQ sockets are the world-saving superheroes of the networking world.

JeremiahSinclair

This smacks of lame techie humor. I'm throwing my hat in the totally benign pile.

rivercontrol

chocolate socket: Slang term for anus, specifically an anus used for anal intercourse. I could not wait to stick my cock into Jill's chocolate socket.

anus #anal sex #intercourse #butthole #butt hole http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chocolate%20socket

nomorepepperoni

To be fair, UrbanDictionary has a dirty meaning for pretty much anything. I didn't see reference to chocolate in OP post.

rivercontrol

True. But I'm a pretty visual person; when I hear "spicy socket" I think about one thing.

nomorepepperoni

Sockets are a valid IT programming thing, though. "Spicy" socket could in this context be similar to "spicy" memes, rather than that kind of spicy. We are dealing with nerds here. They could honestly mean either thing lol.

That said, I suspect their pizza craving was from wearing themselves out over said "sockets".

rivercontrol

Wearing themselves out getting busy with some spicy sockets. In and out and in and out. Spicy, red sockets. Yep.

md3inaustin

Sorry, but this is legit. As a sys admin & jr dev I can tell you all of that verbiage is completely within reason within the context of what's being talked about, mainly API development, geek talk, which geeks favorite food, historically, as HugoWeaving was maybe pointing out is pizza, or more specifically pizza hot pockets, sockets. The celebration is about the new API software's sockets being "spicey" aka fast or upgraded.

Poot_McGarvey

Yeah I'm thinking pizza might stand for something.

I wonder what.

rippingtheveil

I totally agree, I have never sent emails/text back and forth about how I love food, I just think I want an Apple and eat it, come on, we are talking about the freaking CIA, not employees at your local pizza hut, wake up

SIMONBARROW

How come no one ever seems to get a craving for a hamburger?

SoSpricyHotDog

Because that's code for someone that is 18+

(This was a joke)

SoSpricyHotDog

Yeah, sorry, this one is legit! Haha... although it serves as perfect example for us to show shills what a non-coded, pizza related message looks like!

Good find, but, I'm going to vote this as being an actual reference to Pizza (the food).

SturdyGal

Seems like a nerdy junk food joke to jazz up a boring manual. I quickly researched the author and he has died and has a family and nothing fishy.

zzvoat

AWESOME FIND!! Does the ability exist, as it does in the wikileaks emails, to run single word searches throughout the entire set of files?

SturdyGal

Yes

HugoWeaving

Sometimes PIZZA really IS just PIZZA

IMHO, this is not code. I read this as "Extra Spicy Sockets!" sounds like something edible, and in turn, reminds him of Hot Pockets, which in turn, makes him crave pizza.

Every email has to be read in the context of the rest.

rodental

How is this not code? No fucking normal person emails about pizza.

chewyflex

I think you're right. Just someone being goofy.

nomorepepperoni

I'm reading it the same way as Hugo, BUT the sentence regarding Extra Spicy Sockets MAY also be code. Other notes seem technical in nature (socket based API is valid), so "Spicy Sockets" might be a play on something already discussed offline. That said, pizza can still just be pizza here.

DeathToMasons

Two things. I don't understand the email, and never in my life have I carried on about pizza and how much I loved or craved it. When you want to eat food, you talk about it right before you decide what you are going to eat. You don't email back and forth about your professed love of pizza and your plans for future pizza eating. I find it odd that others find it normal. It is not life as I am familiar with. For instance, I don't want to talk about how much I love peanut butter cups right now, because there is never a reason for me to do so in an email, except how I just used it. You people are really odd that think this is normal.

HugoWeaving

Three things in response:

  1. What don't you "understand" about the email? I'm genuinely asking. It's a TECHNICAL speak email, and the sockets and API are real things to people who know and understand that world. I'm just curious if you didn't recognize it, it would seem odd. This is how I feel whenever I put together anything from IKEA.

  2. Have you never ever said or texted someone something like "I would literally KILL for a McDonald's Oreo Cookie McFlurry [or whatever gets you off] right now!" Sometimes language is tricky because you don't get the full context. Saying you crave some pizza is not that weird. Now, if PODESTA said this, you can take the rest of the evidence of his code-speak and apply it to the general oddity of the email...but maybe this guy just likes pizza.

  3. I love peanut butter cups too. And Nutella. In fact, I've offered to marry my jar of Nutella many times. [Again, doesn't mean I actually did.]

fuckreddit__

i think it's important to note that OP's source isn't an email- it's a 225 page pdf. when i tried searching for more info about it i found what looks like the whole thing here, even the "strange craving for pizza" line: http://zguide.zeromq.org/page:all

DeathToMasons

Interesting context.

fuckreddit__

when i found the file myself, i came to the conclusion that it was in vault 7 because of this:

We live in a connected world, and modern software has to navigate this world. So the building blocks for tomorrow's very largest solutions are connected and massively parallel. It's not enough for code to be "strong and silent" any more. Code has to talk to code. Code has to be chatty, sociable, well-connected. Code has to run like the human brain, trillions of individual neurons firing off messages to each other, a massively parallel network with no central control, no single point of failure, yet able to solve immensely difficult problems. And it's no accident that the future of code looks like the human brain, because the endpoints of every network are, at some level, human brains.

If you've done any work with threads, protocols, or networks, you'll realize this is pretty much impossible. It's a dream. Even connecting a few programs across a few sockets is plain nasty when you start to handle real life situations. Trillions? The cost would be unimaginable. Connecting computers is so difficult that software and services to do this is a multi-billion dollar business.

So we live in a world where the wiring is years ahead of our ability to use it. We had a software crisis in the 1980s, when leading software engineers like Fred Brooks believed there was no "Silver Bullet" to "promise even one order of magnitude of improvement in productivity, reliability, or simplicity".

Brooks missed free and open source software, which solved that crisis, enabling us to share knowledge efficiently. Today we face another software crisis, but it's one we don't talk about much. Only the largest, richest firms can afford to create connected applications. There is a cloud, but it's proprietary. Our data and our knowledge is disappearing from our personal computers into clouds that we cannot access and with which we cannot compete. Who owns our social networks? It is like the mainframe-PC revolution in reverse.

Pieter Hintjens, CEO of iMatix

According to Wikipedia:

While in his position as iMatix CEO, Hintjens founded the ZeroMQ software project together with Martin Sustrik. ZeroMQ is a high-performance asynchronous messaging library aimed at use in scalable distributed or concurrent applications.

In November 2013, Hintjens announced EdgeNet, a project building upon ZeroMQ for mesh networks. EdgeNet aims to build a secure, anonymous peer-to-peer alternative to the internet. Hintjens also authored several ZeroMQ projects, such as CZMQ, zproto, and Malamute.

Hintjens would go on to say this about EdgeNet:

We built the Internet to be a space for freedom and opportunity. Instead it has become the greatest surveillance system ever. My name is Pieter Hintjens, CEO of iMatix, and I want you to help me fix that.

Without privacy and anonymity, we lose our freedom of speech. And without that, we become slaves to a narrative where the powerful run amok, without oversight or regulation. I truly believe we’re facing the extinction of our digital freedoms, and then our real world freedoms. By joining in this project and contributing, you help turn back the tide.

I think Pieter Hintjens became a threat to the surveillance state. maybe the cia killed him? official cause of death was terminal cancer/voluntary euthanasia.

Forgetmenot

I agree I don't talk about food like that on email. It's rather odd and should be noted.

srayzie

I agree with you. This doesn't sound normal to me. I think they are using code.

rivercontrol

chocolate socket Slang term for anus, specifically an anus used for anal intercourse. I could not wait to stick my cock into Jill's chocolate socket.

anus #anal sex #intercourse #butthole #butt hole http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chocolate%20socket

srayzie

Poor Jill

srayzie

😮

pbvrocks

Honestly..would not make much of this..nerds (me being one...) love pizza and lots of all night programming sessions are had over a large meatza...just sayin'....but how much BS that the CIA is spying on us thru our TV's...

thisHoCwilltumble

Ya this doesn't read that odd to me either. Just talking about programming with the sockets API and I assume they are just talking about late nights, eating pizza and doing work.

samhara

I think they are.

hacktheplanet

Extra spicy sockets...maybe makes you think of pizza hot pockets and that's why he said that. I'm not that convinced it's code yet. Not like the handkerchief map

MolochHunter

it might mean 'this is interesting would like to pull an all nighter at the office to study it' - thus implying pizza for dinner being at the office ??

BackAgain

Starting to wonder if Shareblue is just a cover for CIA. When people see websites being manipulated they now assume its Shareblue but after this dump we see that the CIA is manipulating HARD and even MEMEing their agenda

gardenofbacchus

We already know this , shareblue literally is CIA, it was devised by the CIA and is run by CIA

rippingtheveil

I saw it wtf

11-11

I agree - seems strange and coded.

< groan >>> how have they kept this so secret? it is everywhere!

Hopefully someone will climb on board that has worked for cia and can shed light thanks for digging it up trumpedup

0xFFF

This is just an excerpt from zeromq website though:

http://zguide.zeromq.org/page:all

Sockets are the de facto standard API for network programming, as well as being useful for stopping your eyes from falling onto your cheeks. One thing that makes ZeroMQ especially tasty to developers is that it uses sockets and messages instead of some other arbitrary set of concepts. Kudos to Martin Sustrik for pulling this off. It turns "Message Oriented Middleware", a phrase guaranteed to send the whole room off to Catatonia, into "Extra Spicy Sockets!", which leaves us with a strange craving for pizza and a desire to know more.

Like a favorite dish, ZeroMQ sockets are easy to digest. Sockets have a life in four parts, just like BSD sockets:

Waltherchick3118

Pieter Hintjens died in Oct 2016 ....just providing info...suffered from Cancer....took his own life...but something he states is a bit odd...but perhaps, it's just me TSDTimes Blog ....He wrote: “Let me start with this: One does not choose to fight, or give in to, a disease like cancer. Perhaps to any disease. In my body right now there is a holy war going on, and has been raging for years… And most of us can say the same thing, most of the time. We are all cancer survivors, until we’re not.” -

SecondAmendment

Who's Martin Sustrik? I'm not tech savvy at all so this Vault 7 stuff is totally foreign. I don't dare download any of it, either, so I'm just waiting for the info and finds to be posted. I wish I could do more to help research it but I'm sure I'd goof it up. Perhaps Wikileaks will post some kind of searchable database; if so I'd be more useful. . . .

Waltherchick3118

I'm not tech savvy either...Eric Snowden has been breaking down a lot of what is posted in WikiLeaks ....

SecondAmendment

Thank you, @Waltherchick3118 ! God love ya.