Godwillwin

Why isn't this being tweeted everywhere? How did I miss this? How is the news not talking about this?

Progressivelymean

Very good question. It has been tweeted. I'll tweet it some more.

votesarestolen

I believe John DeCamp's book brings up Buffet's involvement. It's also noteworthy that in 2012, Buffet's company Berkshire Hathaway purchased the Omaha World-Herald, which covered up the Franklin scandal.

zzvoat

Amazing paper trail. Now, is this about Bush The Elder or Bush The Idiot?

Ps. These guys were lucky they were fired. I'm surprised that they weren't "suicided"?

BorisBadenov

This was happening around the same time. Lots of questions about who this guy was. Obviously it's not normal to have a "hot military stud" lobbing softball questions at White House press briefings.

http://www.insider-magazine.com/Gannongate.htm

The_Kuru

Is this an evidence-based scandal or one of those "secret 'sources' claim" rumor-scandals? Cos I'm worn out with the rumor scandals.

Jem777

There it is right there. Like father like son. How do you stop investigations of pedo rings you throw false flags and start wars. Disgusting

equineluvr

TomFlocco.com

Flocco is a mixed bag; proceed with caution.

bopper

Cynthia McKinney's facebook page has a good video (she posted it) on Franklin and more, it's a good clip.

DarkMath

" I wonder if Warren Buffett was into the Larry King "party" scene."

Highly unlikely as Warren Buffet is a Democrat.

NotTooLate

All of these new seperate posts from newer members are very suspicious. Trying to investigate this is going to go nowhere and it's a distraction especially with all these new seperate posts on the same thing.

Progressivelymean

I may look like a new member but I've been coming here since about November of 2016. I mostly read and haven't found anything new to discuss that has not been already covered quite well by those regular investigators. I can understand being suspicious of new users, but even if I was brand spanking new, this is pretty lame because it's about content, not time correct. This is actually a very good discussion about true pedos getting away with it because the administrations of prior presidents obstructed justice. That is what happened here when attorney generals investigating very real crimes of the elite got fired for getting to close to the truth.

noone222

I picked Ted Gunderson up at the San Diego Airport for a July 4th "patriot" meeting (I think it was 1996). We had some time before the meeting was scheduled so we had breakfast and he told me about his investigations into child sex abuse/pedophilia (Operation Monarch). Both Ted Gunderson and John DeCamp were speakers at that meeting. Ted Gunderson told me many things about intelligence agents being involved in procuring the children from place all around the country and taking them to D.C. where they were abused and worse. He also said that George Herbert Walker Bush was a pedophile and participated in these weird pedo-parties. (Said he was interested in little black boys).

MattHelm

I think it was Bush or LBJ who the Secret Service would take to abuse black boys. One report said the President raped and killed the boy and the SS waited outside knowing what was happening. I believe it's true. The SS are bad guys they cover up everything a President does. I would have gone in and killed the President if it was me on duty.

Godwillwin

Most of clintons bodyguards from when he was in office are dead now. Helicopter crash amongst other "accidents"

Hmmmmmm

thisHoCwilltumble

Who is Tom Flocco?

PizzaGateDiscovery

There are articles that say he is discredited. I can't find much about his bio. Looks like he has written stories before that have been discredited. I couldn't find any replies to this intelligence email to know whether anyone there took the email seriously.

I don't even know if these are different Tom Floccos.

It looks like at one time, he may have had a website and been very interested in 9/11 The Barbra Olsen story was evidently a hoax, but it's possible he was getting too close to the truth on other stories and someone fed him a story that could get him discredited. http://educate-yourself.org/tg/tomfloccoexpose25oct05.shtml

I searched through for his name in the link below. He was interested in various financial dealings and 9/11.

https://archive.org/stream/9-11FinalReportAndOtherTruths/911Final_djvu.txt

formatist

Do we know if any of those agents ended up dead?

palmitespo910

Has Wikileaks been presenting Pizzagate to us all for the last 10 years? Is that what they've been doing?

GeorgeHodelDidit

I have come to the conclusion that Wikileaks is a organisation that must of started with the help of US and international spooks. People who knew the truth and wanted a way to disclose information. How can a group of hackers no matter how good vet all this information and never have been wrong or spoofed once? They have major big league help in clearing their info. And with the guy that is on Alex Jones all the time. It really makes me think that there is a major anti Globalist group at work behind the scenes. I think no matter what the Globalist attempt to do to Trump to destroy him this shadow shadow group is willing to leak everything they have to do to keep him around and keep the pressure on the Globalist. I think Pizzagate either was not meant to be discovered with the Podesta email leaks or it was a shot across the bow of the Globalist to let the shadow shadow group do what they wanted with the economy. Either the hive mind of humanity figured out the weird code words related to Pizzagate and tracked down the Comet Pizza and thus spawned Pizzagate when they wanted to use it as the ultimate leak threat. Now the Globalist have to fear for their very lives because Pizzagate is in the air in a major way.

I kind of think the shadow shadow group must of planned to black mail the Pedoś with their own deeds and films to force them to do what Trump would want and maybe slowly retire the Pedo fuckers in a methodical pace. But the fact Pizzagate is out there stuff might have to be changed. The more gradual taking down of the Globalist might have to be stepped up because the Globalist have to know the people will go all medieval and start hunting them down and lynching them. So this is where we are at I think.

DarkMath

"People who knew the truth and wanted a way to disclose information."

Yep. I 100% agree. Just look at all of us here. We're all outraged and utterly devastated the CIA could have done this nefarious shit. And that represents only 3 months of research.

What if you worked at CIA and knew about all this and more for 10 or 20 YEARS? Your conscience would make your life miserable until you did something.

palmitespo910

It's not a group of hackers, essentially. It's journalists, government insiders, clandestine insiders, hackers maybe, you know.....the good guys. They provide Wikileaks with the information and then Wikileaks vets the information to be sure that it checks out. They're very widespread. They have many connections. That's how they never get it wrong.

GeorgeHodelDidit

Yeah but if they are as high up as I think they are. Then they must of had rumor or even concrete knowledge of Pizzagate related activities back then. Wikileaks may have been created for just this purpose alone. To bring down the Globalist from the root up and to disclose the sexual abuse and ritual torture of the innocent. They must have known that abuse of children on this scale could lead to world wide revolution. I think that is the agenda from the beginning. It didnt matter who the President was just as long as they were not dirty with the stain of abuse themselves the group would make their move against the Globalist. They just needed official cover. This is the moment they have been waiting for. I think no matter what the Globalist attempt to frame Trump with, the anti Globalist will reveal whatever it takes to destroy it. I think they already have any and everything they need. It is all just a matter of preparing the population for the truth. They cant just throw it out there they need to develop the story in stages. This is the delay in Pizzagate arrest. They want it to unfold gradual. I hope that all the lower tier arrest are attempts to disrupt the stealing of children to stop the continuing abuse and they may go after the bigger fish when the population is ready and when they feel Trump has strengthened his grip on the levers of power.\

palmitespo910

Yes, I can agree with that. Especially in the case of this. We could have Julian Assange come on every television right now and tell us EVERYTHING. Just everything that we, as a populace, have a right to know that our government hasn't told us. However, half of the public won't care. Or understand enough to care. Or be interested enough to listen enough to care.

EllaMinnow

I appreciate your positive outlook. I am going to believe this with you.

EndThePizza

Probably not intentionally. They publish a lot of stuff, and pizzagate is widespread- makes sense there'd naturally be overlap.

BorisBadenov

It looks this was in reference to something that happened late in W's administration. Franklin was 20 years earlier. Either I'm missing something or this is a Franklinesque case that happened during W's administration that I've never heard about. Interesting either way. Like father like son?

PizzaGateDiscovery

That's what I was thinking. Maybe better to say a continuation of the original Franklin case, but not the original Franklin case. I guess we can say, Pedophiles never go away, just go underground.

Anyway, this was news to me. We need to find out more about the firings and the cases involved. The time frame is closer to the current PizzaGate stories. Might have some of the same players in both stories.

PizzaGate definitely has elites from both parties involved. The Bush and Clinton families have been playing the political games on the American people for way too long. Look at all the CIA stuff coming out from WikiLeaks. Bush Sr. worked for and was head of the CIA before becoming VP.

This is an excellent find.

Progressivelymean

Yeah. I didn't notice the time discrepancy at first. Baby Bush was daddy's fixer and covered up what was still going on as well as going after Saddam.

Progressivelymean

Yeah. I am getting times mixed up and Bush's mixed up too. Franklin scandal was earlier with Reagan/Bush right. This is probably the DC Madam stuff, and there was a Gay male DC madam too, he was interviewed and talked about the prostitution ring and that there was procurement of children but he had nothing to do with that. He served time btw. http://www.advocate.com/arts-entertainment/books/2015/04/17/excerpt-exposing-gay-secrets-confessions-dc-madam

Progressivelymean

Here is a CNN article about the firings for what it is worth: http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/07/21/us.attorneys/

PizzaGateDiscovery

I read articles similar to this at the time. They made it sound like the firings were political, which was ok with me. After all Clinton had removed Bush Sr. hires. Now, we hear that some of these prosecutors were involved in cases that should have been continued. The Clintons and Bushes did a good job of pretending they were political foes back then. Instead they were just covering up for each other. Now they don't even try to hide their feelings. Bushes/Clintons give each other awards and Clinton is a brother from another mother.

Votescam

The Franklin Scandal continues to be very important to pizzagate/pedo-gate, giving us insight into how things are done and undone. Especially in DC.

sponiatowski

I love this post! The reason the Bush Administration fired these guys is because his father was heavily involved in witness testimony. I had no idea these people were out and out fired.

Vindicator

Well look at that:

According to U.S. intelligence sources, President Bush obstructed justice last December when he had senior advisor Karl Rove and White House Counsel Harriet Miers instruct Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez to fire eight U.S. attorneys who were among several others conducting ongoing public corruption and secret national security grand jury investigations connected to an espionagea linked prostitution / pedophile sex ring operating at the Washington Ritz-Carlton and other DC hotels, whose clients included U.S. senators and congressmen, elite Washington news reporters and high government officialsa some of whom were named by an intelligence insider.

Central to the scandal is fired U.S. attorney Carole Lam of California who was reportedly conducting testimony before grand juries linking indicted former Bush CIA Executive Director Kyle a Dustya Foggo and convicted Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff to the sex ring, Israeli espionage, GOP Under Secretary of Defense for policy Douglas J. Feith, a forged British intelligence dossier used by Mr. Bush to deceive Americans into supporting war against Iraq and an attempt to plant weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in Iraq before the war via an intelligence pipeline through Dubai and Turkey.

Not from Vault7, but from the Stratfor emails, but there it is: pizzagate coverup in living color. Assuming the email is accurate.

Dorfaladin

That dusty foggo guy has a wikispooks page and seems like he was pretty damn important to the whole operation. Good stuff!

PizzaGateDiscovery

I haven't tied Foggo and Abramoff together yet, but this article shows some of the people involved in the scandal. (Listed at bottom of article)

Disgraced Senior CIA Official Heads to Prison Still Claiming He’s a Patriot

https://www.propublica.org/article/disgraced-senior-cia-official-heads-to-prison-still-claiming-hes-a-patriot

The investigations may have been shut down before the pedophilia connections could be exposed. It may be hard to find the connections, but this Stratfor email should definitely be investigated.

DarkMath

Can you add in a link? thanks

Vindicator

The link to what I quoted is the link the OP shared (click the headline of the post). But here it is:

https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/47/475107_agents-bush-firings-obstructed-sex-spy-probe-.html

DarkMath

Thanks

PizzaGateDiscovery

"a forged British intelligence dossier used by Mr. Bush to deceive Americans into supporting war against Iraq"

They tried to do something similar now. By having McCain submit the Trump story to FBI, they tried to use a dossier from a former British intelligence officer to remove Trump. I guess they thought the people would believe it if the story was outrageous enough - the Russian prostitutes peeing story

EndThePizza

Is there a way to verify the claims of those "US Intelligence sources"? We don't trust anonymous sources when they're cited in MSM, and I don't think we should automatically trust them here even though WikiLeaks is definitely more reliable.

Are there any documents or other evidence to support this?

party1981

Every WL email is authentic. They guard their reputation absolutely, it's all they have.

The CIA hasn't denied a single Vault7 document. Nobody has ever really denied Wikileaks, except for a few off the cuff remarks that did not pan out.

Vindicator

I have not doubt the email is authentic...that doesn't mean it is accurate/true. That is, if someone sent an email full of lies to someone at Stratfor, and then all the emails were leaked to Wikileaks -- it would be an authentic leaked email, but what it says might not be true. Make sense?

I don't doubt Wikileaks' incredible track record. But JA would be the first to tell us to keep a critical eye on what we read and attempt to verify the accuracy of the content.

party1981

That's a great point. It would be nice to corroborate the story. Planting the story, before the wikileaks reveal, seems farfetched.

rwb

It's incredibly easy to underestimate the effort required to do what Wikileaks has done. Assange and Co. are a nothing less than a marvel by my reckoning. Imagine, a group of rag tag IT specialists taking on the most powerful, secretive, and well funded entities in the world.

Progressivelymean

This is what the Documentary Conspiracy of Silence is about and rather than punish the perpetrators the Bush administration fired the agents investigating the crimes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY-F5JoHoho