druhill007

oh yeah we're all good homie!!! what do you mean by nuke it tho?:D delete this subsection of it?

stellarcorpse

I doubt the elites pedos & criminals give a flying fig about DS. Not like he is revealing any real evidence that can implicate them. Just a lot of hot air and drama. H aving said that. Jack does shadow ban like crazy when talking about pizzagate. Happens to me. also, they manually have removed my friends from following me without their permission. They seem to not want us to communicate. Twitter would make Big Brother blush.

mysecretidentity

sounds like you deserved it

strix-varia

Won't waste my time on this stuff anymore.

jonnythaiwongy9

Make a David Seaman sub, anytime his name is brought up here, its a distraction from real investigation. I havre no interest in helping him capitalise and make a name for himself on this investigation.

Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt

Challenge to David Seaman to prove he is on the right side of Pizzagate and Global Criminal Corruption:

1) Prove you are not related in any way to the Seaman-Rothschild company that operated around Racine, Wisconsin Seaman Body Corp., W.S. Seaman Company, Rothschild-Seaman Co - www.coachbuilt.com/bui/s/seaman/seaman.htm

2) Call for open investigations into Pizzagate and Global Criminal Corruption tied to Racine, Wisconsin - Paul Ryan's district that is a known hub and epicenter for corruption and pizzagate-related crimes. This will prove that he is not following a script.

We hope that David Seaman is not the same person who once said he "would protest gravity if he thought it would get him buzz". We hope that he really wants to solve Pizzagate and Global Criminal Corruption. Racine is the answer (see Pilgrims Society, Knights of Pythias, and Agenda 2030 for starters).

druhill007

ty for sources. I was trying to find that page where the TRUTH_SOMETHING_SOMETHING guy posted links about pyramids and power of sound. had you posted on that?

ObamaFAG1

LMAO, I am on my 5th twitter account. I had to use the business office in my complex because Jack Dorsey (the gay lover of all things PEDOPHILIA, ISIS) (he LOVES to support the terrorist twitter accounts and never takes them down) and he protects ALL liberals has Blocked all of my pc's, Iphone etc. so I had to use the common business office to create this last twitter account. Anyone who promotes pizzagate or attacks liberals are shadow banned. Welcome to the united states of CIA! circa 1984. I for one "AM NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE"

GlobalGuardian2001

Got news for you. Jack shadowbans pretty much anyone who tweets about pizzagate and other controversial topics on Twitter. This isn't new.

Op could be posting this to keep Seaman the shyster relevant because people aren't making many donations to his "cause" after being exposed as a con artist.

Go away GoldMoney shill.

druhill007

I actually posted this because of the censorship. Didn't know who to turn to. Don't believe me you can see my earlier VOAT post where I used my Wikileaks reply that was banned. It was deleted so I made a PizzaGate one. I guess maybe you can't see it since it was deleted? Lol

I'm too tired to rehash any arguments in support of seaman that you can see by scrolling up or down

VieBleu

just don't admit that in real life ; )

druhill007

got a nice chuckle from reading your name after reading your post ;DD

druhill007

just re-read my response LeHappy and yeah... I went a bit too ham. Wouldn't want that to be overall impression of my approach.

Was still heated from being shadow banned and had just watched his video where he seems pretty genuine.

Will do my best to moving forward to fight for humanity and that includes you and everyone else here that is hoping to heal the human trafficking epidemic!!! :)

cantsleepawink

This is not directed at the OP, in any way. But as a piazzagate researcher I am concerned about the moderation of these 'anti-pizzagate shills' posts. Can we please be more observant of the focus of this subverse? It is getting cluttered with chatter about possible pizzagate shills and the like. This is one of the methods in shutting down a research forum. We have other subverses for this type of discussion.

Guaranteed the coming demonstration will also produce another flood of posts. Please create a separate subverse. @wecanhelp @Vindicator .

druhill007

(no offense taken!!) :)

cantsleepawink

Good :)

dFrog

Twatter, Facebook, and Google are known to be censoring some perspectives and promoting others right now and the pushback against people talking about pedogate is pretty obvious.

druhill007

yap :/

important to document!! revealing the manipulation neutralizes it's power

druhill007

I'm waiting for someone to provide genuine issues.

In the battle of internet perception, going after the artificial manipulation of it is very important. Whenever I've made a mistake online by calling someone a shill (when they were actually just someone with a different viewpoint) I've immediately apologized. Usually it's pretty easy to tell but sometimes it isn't. I would gladly partake in all ideological discussions :) I had an hour long discussion two nights ago with someone who I initially thought was a shill. Turns out he was a guy who battle conspiracy theorists online and had genuine concerns about pizzagate. It ended amicably :)

My default position is not as archaic as you're assuming.. I'm just still angry from being shadow banned lollllllll

I don't attempt to use shill argument tactics against people who have genuine belief differences

throwaway345678

My problem with David Seaman:

His Book, Dirty Little Secrets of Buzz: "How to Attract Massive Attention for Your Business, Your Product, or Yourself"

http://contactanycelebrity.com/cac/dirty-secrets-buzz/david-seaman/

His interview on this book: "I would protest gravity, if i thought it would get me buzz." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkEA0CbVWU0

During this entire investigation he has made his narrative utterly self centered and self promoting, while providing nothing to the investigation except a 50k+ twitter/youtube viewer base.

AND

He is then making 4k a month from well intentioned viewers who think they are paying him to "research"- they simply fell for his latest hyped topic.

Is the pizzagate community supposed to support paying a guy 4k a month because he has 50k + audience? Really?

druhill007

He appears to be using a metaphor within the overall context of explaining a more important idea.

Gravity statement is immediately followed by "The point is, if you're only doing stuff online you're not differentiating yourself, because there are millions of keyboard jockeys out there (instantly thought of myself hahah).... IF you combine an offline presence with a great online presence it's really powerful."

I'm sorry but I don't see how that's indicative of in authenticity capable of overriding his contribution to this movement. If guilty of anything in that statement it's a disconnect from metaphorical hyperbole.

Another point.. Prefrontal cortex doesn't fully develop until mid 20's....aka you have not reached your full mental capacity yet. Limiting someone based on their past in not a good practice. Chains people and prevents development.

throwaway345678

If you listen to the entire video he is talking about offline and online presence as in creating an entire persona in order to create buzz to self promote.

For example: at the end of the interview he talks about why he would prefer negative attention to "meh" mediocre reviews - he wants a "strong reaction" from people. He's literally talking about intentionally going after a negative impression/reaction from people in order to get more hype/views/money.

If this isn't the definition of a sellout I don't know what is.

druhill007

WOW i'm pretty tired. For some reason that first transition to the person interviewing made me think it had switched to a different segment or something?

will watch rest of it prob. or fall asleep.time will tell

also, devils advocate, even if he is sellout that doesnt actually care about kids, wouldn't it still b good to have him?

also (sorry brain jumping around)... like I don't see what's wrong with having a level of disconnect between an academic ideology and yourself. He's taking joy in being able to analyze effective ideas within his preferred field. I do somewhat similar things with psycholog.. and this is journalism. Surely as a young journo you're indoctrinated into a results based ideology

throwaway345678

Because everything he said in the video, he has applied to real life (he says that in the video - that that's what you have to do to be successful) - so this is literally his gameplay for pizzagate.

druhill007

well if I had developed an internal ideology on how to successfully use guitars, and then ten years later found out that playing music to children could cure them of cancer I wouldn't refuse to use my guitar skills!!

(obv not a great analogy because no negative implications in use of guitar lol) Point being that why shouldn't he use those previously developed skills to help this situation?

(SIDE NOTE : I made this thread because of the censorship not for David lollllll!!)

throwaway345678

That's totally fine and I understand you said you need sleep so I'll stop responding after this post. The truth is important to pizzagate especially even when it's uncomfortable.

David developed his ideology on self promotion based on using any hyped subject by injecting himself into the narrative and making controversial reactions of good or strongly bad. That's word for word the advice and gameplan he talks about in the video. And it's exactly what we've seen happen in the pedogate/Pgate community. We've become divided into very positive or deeply negative reactions. Either way he's gotten a lot of attention for himself personally.

And you're right - this thread has become all about David - which is exactly what he talks about seeking out through negative attention. He said he wants to be the movie with the terrible review because then at least people will be talking about it. Much as we are here now. Much as the community has been. This is EXACTLY what he set out to do and EXACTLY what he wants.

Point being - that what he is doing re: pizzagate is clearly a stunt from his angle. Anyway no more replies from me for now I'm not giving the attention whore more attention hahaha.

All best to you I don't mean to disrespect you at all just want to talk honestly about this.

druhill007

cant find it but didn't you have a link to previous discussion? :D

druhill007

No disrespect taken!!!

(I'm in my phone in bed now so definitely closer to sleep lolllll)

Just had somewhat new idea about it, but will leave for later. Maybe post, not that important lol. Night :D

druhill007

and I know i'm going ham defending him but I do think it's important to sort out... assuming he genuinely wants whats best for us all, you want whats best and I want whats best then we each have to believe that all of us want whats best to achieve full force

druhill007

kk ill watch the YT vid

teefymcteephteeth

David Seaman is harmful to our cause imo. Look up his book about how to attract a lot of attention online (or something along those lines)

VieBleu

Re: redditsuckz or whoever is running it now - simply Fail

In response to Redditsucksmeatmywhim below:

I really really love it when I am rumored to have superpowers. "VieBleu must be the one controls all of David Seamans bot accounts..." Not quite good enough to become my new badge of honor, but I'll keep it archived.

Congrats Redsux, you have now joined Crensch in admiring my unusual abilities. Crensch - "Even if what he says sounds reasonable, he's likely attempting to manipulate you into doing or saying something that'll cause an issue."

AN ISSUE ha ha yeah, all your base issues are belong to us. Forever.

Cause I hypnotize your @zz roundhouse, redditsux and all yur stupid split alters

redditsuckz

VieBleu must be the one controls all of David Seamans bot accounts...

Indisputable Proof That David Seaman's "Fans" Aren't Real People

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1692512

LOL!

VieBleu

Love how you love me baby.

druhill007

I'm real :) :)

redditsuckz

You might be under David Seamans mind control...:(

David Seaman is in "Deep Shit" - Con Artist 101 | NLP & Mind Control

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXokD2AU8HE

druhill007

We may end up agreeing to disagree on this one, since things like these are difficult to analyze with precision..... but I'm not buying it hehe. Watched the vid..

The 'anchoring' method was deduced from analyzing life. People didn't magically begin using the psychological tool of anchoring after someone discovered it.

You could analyze most people's existence and identify an anchoring pattern. When I'm coaching soccer I'll anchor creativity with possession of the ball, thereby improving a players creativity when they have the ball!! Did I attempt to figure out how to manipulate them before hand? No. I just retroactively identified the pattern.

That being said. If it was a 'premeditated tactic' it was most likely in a general business class or something on how to improve sales. It's not a very complicated pattern.

To imply that relatively basic mental patterns are evidence of mind control.... eh i'm not feelin it.

redditsuckz

Or what about the time he pretended to run for CONGRESS 4 years ago and then threatened to kill himself when people called him out?...

What David Seaman Doesn't Want You To Know

https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/1705856/8349891

David Seaman for Congress...

https://web.archive.org/web/20120810080543/http://davidseamanforcongress.com/

VieBleu

seriously - are your split personality? that would explain a lot.

druhill007

The book he wrote 9 years ago? When he was in college?

And my overall point would remain. That as members of the same team we need to be looking for the positives within each other. If you judged me based on only my ability to create new connections in the sea of circumstantial evidence you'd say that I was a complete waste of time and shouldn't be around. ASSUMING that someone has the genuine underlying goal of helping humanity and eliminating high level trafficking then we shouldn't limit them based on their past or based on their pitfalls as a human. Everyone deserves the chance to fight for something larger than themselves.

HomeboyChrisBanned

Why dont you call into lift the veils show and we'll see who the shill really is. Try and defend this semen dude.

VieBleu

I've had enough of you. You are the shilll o' the day. EVERY time I run across your cute little name I Know it is going to be an aggro, neg comment, and yep there you go again.

HomeboyChrisBanned

I actually happen to have a ticket im giving away for an all you can eat butthole buffet, would u like to dine?

VieBleu

Are you serving the usual whine?

HomeboyChrisBanned

Herhehrhrhehrejrherhehrre

VieBleu

thanks, that's prob better than that joke deserved.

V____Z

Why don't you defend Lift the Veil? Like his recent video on Bill Hicks being Alex Jones.

druhill007

haven't seen the lift the veils show tbh

i don't pay attention to the meta reporting of the information THAT much. I spend most of my time here.

I just don't like negativity towards people who are on same squad

V____Z

Lift the veil is an *******. You're not missing anything.

kazza64

dam .... i noticed he was posting back on twitter .... i like everything he shares

sleepingbeautycan

I have been shadowbanned for months. I will occasionally go back on and get one or two tweets out before it is shut down again. They don't like me. =(

druhill007

Months?! ouch. you must've been going in. Such an odd feeling. Still mad lollll

quantokitty

It means you've been effective. Take it as a compliment and keep doing what you're doing.

DeathToMasons

David Seaman has nothing to do with PG. I am sure his fan club can be found eslwhere.

boxpizza

Why haven't the mods blocked his name yet? He was found to be a phony over and over again with his false predictions. & every time I see a new thread with his name, there's always a few comments right away. I think David is making a few fake accounts to push his posts to the front of voat

cantsleepawink

Agree this is not the place for Seaman discussions. I just posted this comment. Hope you don't mind me attaching it here again :

This is not directed at the OP, in any way. But as a piazzagate researcher I am concerned about the moderation of these 'anti-pizzagate shills' posts. Can we please be more observant of the focus of this subverse? It is getting cluttered with chatter about possible pizzagate shills and the like. This is one of the methods in shutting down a research forum. We have other subverses for this type of discussion.

Guaranteed the coming demonstration will also produce another flood of posts. Please create a separate subverse. @wecanhelp @Vindicator .

redditsuckz

I hope David Seaman runs for Congress again so he can finally get investigations into pizzagate!

https://twitter.com/d_seaman/status/234763046030016512

LMAO!

Edit;

What David Seaman Doesn't Want You To Know - illegal Campaign donations + Threatens Suicide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhpULdRRAxI

V____Z

Yeah let's laugh at people who actually want to infiltrate the corruption in DC rather than just post comments on the Internet. That'll show em.

druhill007

funniest thing about this is I posted this because of the censorship LOLLLL not because of david. got derailed hard

druhill007

Based on the video I just watched I'm pretty sure he does. I'm not here to argue what player on the team he is... whether he is the star quarterback or a waterboy. If you don't think he's on the team I would assume you have undesirable ulterior motives.

Nana66

I used to get tons of action on my Anti Hillary and pro Bernie tweets, now I just get ganged up on if I irritate a pro Hillary and Obama media agenda protecting troll. I learned to ignore them cuz they will just call in the troops and blow up my notifications for a couple days.

V____Z

I used to get tons of action for the same. My notifications were always between 50-100 if I left for a few hours. Now I get between 1-15 in a day. Jack doesn't ban me, he just silences me. Twitter is a graveyard for any ideas besides those you'd hear from Rachael Maddow. You know, men are the problem, white people should go away, all those with non white skin, or who work in the U.S. Government are innocent of all crimes and if not, we simply won't report on them.

Nana66

Twitter is nothing more than a tool for propaganda. I go on just to see what they want the sheep to think and if there's anything good that they are trying to cover up by suppression and censorship.

druhill007

I keep trying to pick fights heheh. Had one on twitter for what felt like an hour with an anti-pizzagater.

Now that I think about it.... that might be connected to this

Nana66

Yeah, I learned they aren't there to let you convince them of anything and if they see you aren't going to fall for their crap and keep calling them out they just block you.

VieBleu

Keep talking and keep strong.

druhill007

Thank you VieBleu!!

To those that downvote this I fully expect you to explain why.

DeathToMasons

There is what you expect, and then there is what you get. Looks like you are getting what you deserve.

V____Z

Podesta loves you!!!

VieBleu

ha ha gave me a laff - keep strong VZ

druhill007

Why would I deserve to be prevented from fighting against shilling?

druhill007

I'm admittedly a bit tilted at the moment after being banned lol. But desire genuine discourse!!

VieBleu

genuine discourse - THAT is in short supply, in face and online. We'll have a discussion over wine someday, join us.

druhill007

If I can go to the march without missing soccer coaching I'll be there!!

druhill007

It appeared as though I was the only one combatting the shills on Twitter throughout the night. Wasn't getting any likes on my brand new meme (SHILL ARMY MEME = https://ibb.co/gj5jbF)) )) or angry responses so decided to check on computer and yep, I can't be seen.

I haven't formulated a complete mental response to this yet. Feels so fucking slimy. They've removed the ability to fight against truth manipulation. How are you supposed to combat them in their arena if they don't even let you fight. (To be fair I felt like I was scalping shills left right and center the last few nights so obviously they don't like losing)

druhill007

I think I might be losing my mind but I swear I've been shadow banned on facebook for complaining about being shadow banned on twitter....

V____Z

So funny that you're getting down voted on Voat just for complaining about limits to your free speech. This place is getting to be just as depressing as Twitter (and Facebook should have died years ago).

druhill007

and it's not like people have a bunch of downvoats to spare ahhaha

many tears :'''''''''(

kazza64

i have posted a lot of conspiracy theory stories especially about paedophilia on facebook for years and i never got into trouble. only thing i got chastised for was too much sharing. they limited how many stories i could share for a while and that was the end of it. i wont engage with trolls on any social media. i just block and forget and get on with the business of exposing paedophile rings. getting two 12 hour lock outs on twitter was a shock for me because i didnt know what they blocked me for until i saw the tweets they wanted me to delete

druhill007

DANG. hehe i'm the opposite. haven't been sharing a ton of stories but been going after trolls and shills

I think I'd rather have a lock out then be allowed back in then shadow banning. Like how am I supposed to fix it?

kazza64

i dont know. i think ive only been shadow banned once and i didnt get any likes on twitter for about a day and then i was locked out.

druhill007

Reposting this example to show one that applies to PizzaGate!! (Had previous one deleted because didn't apply. Showed shadow banning from defending Wiki Leaks)