Fatsack

Mike Pence defended Hastert publicly when Hastert came under fire for defending another pedo politician. This was before Hastert was busted himself

ChristoRedentor2018

pedopredators#.....wait 4it and there goes kiefer sutherland making a tv series about killing entire government..".designated survivor..." imbd-c-o-m..

SChalice

Good to see the Trump cucks disassemble their administration.

wecanhelp

In light of these Julian Assange tweets kindly provided by @podesta4prison , I've flaired this as Accuracy in question .

DeathToMasons

And yes, if you claim wikileaks revealed something then you need to post the wikileaks links, not a video with people giving their opinions plus the worthless NYT. Reason you did not do this?

SuperJohnWayne

One possibility of several is that Wikileaks is being run by the CIA and the Pence story is disinfo.

vhelsing

Shillery. Assange said Clinton is trying to get Pence situated because he is beatable. Didn't say Pence was aware

Godwillwin

good points

remedy4reality

and I said exactly the same thing over 2 weeks ago >> https://voat.co/v/politics/1680858

therealkrispy

Whoever replaces Pence as VP should meet three key criteria:

From a policy standpoint, they have to be Trump 2.0. They have to actually be a scarier prospect for POTUS than Trump is to his enemies. Quotes on the record are key here.

Next you need to put them in a position where they're involved closely with the human trafficking crackdown Trump's in the middle of, and you need hard rhetoric here too. Specifically they have to be a known PG believer and they have to name names. Eventually, you want them to name-drop Podesta, Alefantis, etc. That's just while you build a case against Pence.

Third one can be done to anyone. An attempt needs to be (fictitiously) made on their life. A false flag attack intentionally blundered. This is really easy if they're a registered firearm owner with multiple pieces. "He tried to shoot me with my own gun. He had a gun on him, but he specifically tried to use mine. This was an assassination attempt made to look like a suicide. Gee, I wonder who'd do something like that..." Obviously, it has to fail spectacularly. Before this, it'd be extra beneficial if their phone was to be compromised by a known CIA tool that's leaked since Vault 7, because it shows premeditation and a loose enough link to the bad guys that you're not accusing them in an official capacity, but even on Fox, the connection is clearly illustrated. Now your VP pick is unkillable, because if an assassination actually succeeds, the public jumps to this conclusion.

Boom. Instant life insurance for President Trump. Because you can't kill a guy that's already cried "assassin!" And you can't kill Trump if you're just as afraid of his number 2.

I've always thought the office of VP was kinda outdated. It seems like they just make you nominate their puppet of choice as your VP so you know that if you don't walk the walk, they'll kill you and your replacement will be right there to destroy your work. You know, exactly like what they did to JFK. I suspect a similar attempt was made with Reagan, but he survived the shot.

Marfa-Lights

Mike Pence is the biggest rat there, do you really think he would have been allowed to run for president before, if he wasn't part of their setup? They want Trump out so badly so that one of their own is running the show.

equineluvr

Yeah, Pence is all about health care! That crappy RINO Act that is "Obamacare Light."

NO thanks!!

DIGITGIDGIT

this is garbage saage this shit

DoomMantia

I fucking hate Pence. Now I can hate him even more.

Cara_C

  1. Where does Wikileaks reveal Pence is plotting to take down the president? I haven't seen anything like this. All I've seen is that Hillary wants him in as he's more predictable than Trump and she thinks, easier to defeat. That's probably true. That doesn't mean Pence is in on it.

  2. What evidence does Tory Smith have that Pence raped children? From what I can tell, Smith had visions of this. I didn't see where he provided any evidence for his allegations.

  3. What is the evidence Mike Pence knew Dennis Hastert was a pedophile when he defended him? In the 2006 article linked to, all that had been alleged at that point was that Dennis Hastert knew of inappropriate emails that Representative Mark Foley had sent to a page. Hastert said his staff knew about them, but that he didn't. Pence released a joint statement with Representative Joe Pitts of Pennsylvania saying, "Speaker Hastert is a man of integrity. Speaker Dennis Hastert should not resign." What's the evidence Pence knew that Hastert was a pedophile when he put out this statement? Perhaps at that time, he considered him to be a man of integrity. Criminals often have a very convincing honorable facade that can even fool close friends and family members, even spouses, for decades.

I believe there's a major network of pedophiles in DC (and elsewhere) and there have been rumors that number involves up to 30% of people in positions of power in our government. But even if that's true, that means that 70% of people aren't in that ring. They might be aware it exists or have suspicions, but not know specifically who is involved or what they are doing.

I don't trust anyone in DC and everyone deserves scrutiny. But we need evidence of knowledge or involvement before labeling someone a pedophile defender plotting to take down the president, and the original post certainly doesn't contain it.

podesta4prison

You're nearly repeating what I said.

Bluebirdsolitude

I was iffy about the status of Assange. The tweets this morning validated my fears. "He" was calling people names in the comment section. That was not Assange. Edit: My apologies...not in comments section. He posted an insulting tweet and called someone name. Wasnt major. Just seemed out of character.

stellarcorpse

where ? I follow him and I've not seen this.

Bluebirdsolitude

My apologies, my mistake. I went back and looked it up. It wasnt in the comments section, it was the tweet where he told someone "learn to read, you unprofessional dolts." I havent followed him for years, only months, but this just doesnt sound like him to me. I could be totally wrong, but for myself, I question if this is him.

Is it his custom to tweet an allegation (such as the one against Pence) with no proof to back it up? I'm honestly asking, since as I said, I havent followed him a very long time. He seems so meticulous that I just find that odd that he would tweet those allegations w/o providing something to back it up. Not saying he's wrong; at this point, I dont know who to trust, but the method just seemed odd.

I hope I'm totally wrong.

stellarcorpse

I have followed him for a very long time and I have seen this type of snarky, even bitchy reply before by him. I think now that he has his own account, maybe he has a slightly different MO and find that he can be more free. I think it is him. I also believe everything he says. I think he is trying to send us a warning. I think proof of allegations are forthcoming.

Bluebirdsolitude

Ok, thank you so much for the info.

stellarcorpse

Welcome. Keep you posted if I hear any updates.

jonnythaiwongy9

Look, I was behind Pence at the beginning. Hoever and this is nothing got to do with anything but a few things. 1. Trump had second thoughts about him, and he's establishment thru and thru. 2. Pence contributed to Flynn's ouster. 3. Reince, Ryan, Rubio, Soros, the Dems, everyone wants Pence in. That way things can stay the same, Soros agenda continues, no1 goes to jail, no pedo shit comes, out, full control of propaganda. 3. Pence backed the CIA, I can understand you hafta make nice, but he fully backed them and condemned wikileaks, therefore he has no intention of changing what has been the status quo. IMO, his actions, for me, put him in the camp of Reince, who is right next to the Ryans and Rubios. Pence has grown up in this system, do you think he wants to see it torn down? He's gone to bat for pedo's before. For me at least Its Trump, Bannon, Ivanka, Conway, and Flynn. Only people I trust. I love Mattis, but who knows what side he's on.

anonymousj

I seriously think we are going off the deep edge. Every day a new "revelation" everyone is implicated in something.....it is getting so you don't know, even remotely what to believe. Yes, I believe there are some scumbags in our government. But I look at some people and just can not believe they are the vile people the narrative is setting forth them to be. I will look at things with a questioning eye, but I'm not going to go off the deep end running around with my hair on fire about every claim, because that is just plain stupid. FACTS. I question, analyze and form my opinions on CONCRETE, proveable facts or at the very least a repetitive pattern over and over and over and over of questionable behavior, in which case I will dig deeper.

anonymousj

And where have all the normal investigators moved on to from here. There seems to be more and more sensationalism and shilling and less solid investigation and reporting. It's sad.

Dejure

Oy so do i have to sift through over 200 replies to find the wikileak referenced in the title or is the op gonna amend the 1st post and SOURCE THE CLAIM?

anonymousj

Why are all the posts allowed without any sourcing and just wild innuendo?

samhara

I don't know. I hope you are correct.

TheTruthWorker

Tory Smith reported child rape and murders by Pence and other elires on his YouTube channel until they killed him last July

samhara

Maybe this was meant to derail the news out of "True Pundit" today?

the news was about an group of FBI claiming MacCabe and a group of his lieutenants were plotting to take down Trump

New_years_day

Assange is dead

TrueAmerican

Trump IS establishment!! Dont be fooled by this conman. We need to overthrow the government already.

Loserfour

I cannot up vote this the reptilian commentary is going to turn to many people away from taking pedogate seriously tbqh

stellarcorpse

i don't have time to look through all those donations But it may be another Pence. She could not possibly be this stupid.

stellarcorpse

Ya, I saw that. I will check it out but makes no sense. She should have posted as anon if indeed she did. What is she an idiot? Let me check.

equineluvr

One must expand many, many times to find it; it's way down on the list.

$20 Karen Pence 3 months ago

stellarcorpse

Could be any Karen Pence. Not an uncommon name.

bopper

"No enterprise is more likely to succeed than one concealed from the enemy until it is ripe for execution." - Donald Trump, um, I mean Niccolo Machiavelli

dtneslo

Pence is a friend of Dennis Hastert, just like Podesta. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1664229

stellarcorpse

let me check it out. thanks.

stellarcorpse

That would be totally weird. Do you have link to fund me page? This would be huge.

Bring_Down_CF

Is it just me or does Steele look awfully similar to the guy in the worldcorpo videos?

jstayz44

I've missed a bit on the OP front, please link the leak from WL showing Pence plotting. Many apologies if this is obvious and old. And many thanks for obliging my request.

r3dtr1x

***** BS OP ***** I guarantee you that you won't be able to link to anything in Wikileaks 'revealing that Pence is plotting to take down the President'... 100% guaranteed. Either post a link to support your claim, or STFU with your shillery. SHILL

SHILL SHILL SHILL

samhara

Any Republican would've beat her. That's what their intelligence told them. And they thought they could easily win against Trump.

Came out in the Summer emails.

V____Z

Because exposing people as pedophiles has some impact on their position in DC? I haven't seen any evidence of that. Seems it will only ensure his future success. Sorry, I think i've lost hope. I need to see some busts, not fucking Alefantis selling Comet Pizza onesies for babies. Fuck you FBI, you're JOKES.

equineluvr

Same here.

It doesn't help knowing that Belgium had a 300,000+ turnout of pissed-off marchers in the streets, and it changed NOTHING.

ChristoRedentor2018

so sad but true..dude,only a million man march, armed as fuck! will change anything. .I really like trump,i have faith in hm, im not even amrican or in the states, but hope he wll drain all swamps..starting with saudi and moslems,bomb syria bomb saudi fuck all that shit upp he he he

V____Z

Uugggggggh i didn't need to hear that. I just listened to the organizer of the upcoming Marches and he is so full of hope. He says it's just a matter of time now... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcwPBUccjQY

Hell-on-Wheels

I'll be honest, I'm not sure how Trustworthy Trump is, but that's another discussion entirely. Does anyone know why Trump picked Pence? What was he to gain by doing so? Also, how can I help expose him, any suggestions?

rippingtheveil

I figured there would be charges brought to high elites in this country, I don't know, this doesn't seem right, God needs to intervene in this, i feel we all are getting inpatient, and for good reaaon

equineluvr

No charges will ever be brought against the higher levels.

Mark my words.

OhRutherfordBehave

Oh ya Mike Pence needs to go the fuck down. I almost wonder if Trump took him on intentionally. You said the wikileaks reveal Pence is plotting to take down the president, but offered no link. So what are you talking about?

stellarcorpse

proof or stfu.

Ihatepizza2

Check out the latest from ScumOfUs (sumofus.org) which I think may be soros funded. (Images are 2 halves of email received today)

https://imgoat.com/v/6952
https://imgoat.com/v/6953

BlackListMedia

Why this nutjob was chosen as VP really fucking confuses me.. This motherfucker.

quantokitty

This is disinformation designed to cause a schism. And the video is ridiculous. Take them off the planet for trial ... yeah, okay. And the subject of this post is very misleading. You say Wikileaks is saying this and then post a ridiculous video from someone circling Neptune ... and a NYT article? Really? I'm thinking you're a shill.

stellarcorpse

No, it's true. Actual tweets by Assange. Why this person did not provide links is beyond me.

quantokitty

Then where are they? I went on Twitter. and see this: https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/841697728379965441 This is saying that the Cannibal Queen is pushing for a Pence takeover. That is what Assange has been tweeting. I see no accusation from Assange that Pence is a pedophile nor that he's saying Pence is a part of this. In fact, he states Pence's role in this is unknown which is acceptable since Assange has probably seen it all. This entire post is ridiculous.

stellarcorpse

No he has nothing about him being a pedophile. I was referring to the coup against Trump only. I diden't even watch the video. I follow Assange on twitter and saw the tweet this morning. That is all I was referring to. Sorry for the confusion,

quantokitty

I got you. I guess I'm interpreting what Assange is saying differently than you are. I don't see any proof or statement that assets Pence is going along or orchestrating this. It's more a questioning of where Pence stands. And you really should watch the video because I can't take it seriously. Sorry ... just can't. To get back to Pence, I wouldn't be surprised if what's being reported by Assange and others is accurate. She just can't keep her grubby, blood-stained hands off the world. I'm really pissed at Assange for not printing what he has on her. WTH is he waiting for?

V____Z

I think you might appreciate HAGoodman's take on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxuyVu8eC5E

quantokitty

Thanks. Actually, I agree with 98% of what he has to say. The only thing I don't agree with is that Pence wouldn't respond to a question CNN posed if there were no merit. Yes, he would. So I don't view that the same way. I absolutely think Wikileaks and Assange are doing huge favor by making these things public. I also thought of a strategy behind it, but refuse to write it down in case I'm correct in guessing what is going on. Why help the cannbal elite?

V____Z

I do find it interesting that this is the first thing Pence has been asked about, the first the he's commented on since Trump got into office, is it not? And I wonder what that means...

quantokitty

No, he's commented before. Believe you're being misled by the press not covering news anymore. All they do is print propaganda. So the real question is, why is this the first comment the press has publicized and disseminated?

V____Z

Ah - YES. Why indeed?

stellarcorpse

Having said that. I have never fully trusted Pence since before day one. He campaigned for Paul Ryan and was initially critical of Trump. Until he was chosen, then he changed his tune,.

quantokitty

It's one way of looking at it. I think it was more he was being loyal to someone that had the support of the party, but I could be wrong.

stellarcorpse

i never inferred that Pence is aware of anything. All I stated was that the Assange tweets were accurate since some here have questioned whether or not he posted them. Also, account is real since it was tweeted by Wikileaks themselves when initiated.

quantokitty

Understood.

unrealisthenewreal

Link to WL that prove this?

stellarcorpse

not wikileaks. Julian Assange private account tweets. This poster needs to link to those.

strix-varia

All I had to see was Pence's eyes. Immediate suspicion..lizard beady black eyes.

User890020

If they find out he's a pedo, their approval rate for him will suddenly blossom.

burnerdrone04

The wikileaks connection is from Jullian Assange's twitter account only . He sites unnamed sources in the IC which claim the deep state (and Hillary) are pushing for a Pence Takeover of the White House. The idea being that Pence is a weaker political opponent and therefore they want him in. Not that he's "on their team" or anything like that. I find assange's tweets to be odd in that he sites information which could be used to identify leakers, he also backs up the claim with nothing. No documents or anything. Suspicious.

stellarcorpse

it is very odd. I agree.

SIMONBARROW

This is probably why JA started an individual Twitter account - so that he can discuss things with more freedom.

hels

If there was any dirt on Trump it would have been published for weeks on end trying to bolster Hillary.

13Buddha

Well, the press will have a field day if Tory Smith's writings and videos are used to expose VP Pence, Cheyney, whoever. Has anybody checked this guy out? He is absolutely bonkers regarding his intergalactic abilities, the ability to read the DNA of others, the list goes on and on. Plus there is at least one prior submission about him. Now I will be the devil's advocate. Let's say some of the stuff he has claimed about pedophilia, rape, and murder is true. Let's say he has innate, rare abilities. He completely destroys his credibility with all of the other wacky crap he verbalized and wrote about. Unfortunately, reptilian creatures caused his death according to his departing message.

equineluvr

What "writings?" Are there any attributions in them, or are they just a list of "offenses" like his YT videos?

13Buddha

There's quite a bit of info about Tory on line in addition to his videos, such as narratives by him and others. His written word is all over the place, a tour de force flight of ideas, that are bizarre to say the least.

equineluvr

Oh, more alien crap. No thanks!!!

Fateswebb

Uh, am I wrong in my belief that pence didn't know about hillaries plan to place him, or go along with it. Please provide some sort of proof that VP pence is colliding with Hillary.

carmencita

Please Know that Trump has given the CIA power to use Drones. No one knows why. I saw this on my local news last night and someone posted it and it was deleted. This has been reported by NY Mag. The Hill, Fox News and WSJ. Why is the question.

stellarcorpse

Very bad idea. Why give these pukes more power than they already have? And besides, they likely want to take out Trump. This was also one of the Julian Assange tweets last night. Reckless and fool hearty.

carmencita

I did not mean that he should make a deal, I meant that maybe he has been forced to make a deal. There are a lot of things going on behind the scene, an we are not being told, for sure.

Jem777

Thanks for sharing that for me. I am trying to share it everywhere. This is a huge red flag. The CIA is owned by HRC/Bush. Why do they now have the powers to drone

equineluvr

No, the Bushes and Hitlery do not OWN the CIA. But they answer to the same masters that the CIA does.

Omnicopy

Because they are going to have the power to take out the average American!

carmencita

Maybe something will be revealed. I have heard before and read that sometimes there are deals that have to be made, a kind of tit for tat deal. I do this and you let me reveal that? Or, we will find out in coming days that he is putting in a new person as CIA head. Don't know why he has not. I will keep posting it when possible.

Cleareyes

CIA largely gets to operate with impunity correct? Maybe unilateral drone capabilities invokes some oversight rules, but i'm just hoping its something like that

carmencita

We can hope. We are only about two months into this, so maybe in the near future things will become clearer.

WatchListMe

He has shared his "execution of all whistleblowers" idea publicly. Maybe he is sick of wiki leaks?

carmencita

Many people don't like tattle-tales unless they need a witness to a crime. There is a need for Whistle Blowers. Pence may need one soon.

samhara

Yes, maybe he gave the drone power to some whistleblowers. ?

carmencita

We may be better off with them than the CIA, actually. Depending on who they are of course.

Godwillwin

I'm not saying I think he is or isn't a pedo-- gotta look into it more. But either way, if he is or isn't being propped up by the establishment, it was in his personal best interests not to bail so that he could become VP adding that title to his political career.

But yes, I agree that he seems loyal to Trump. It's very possible he had no idea that pizzagate would come up the way it did and that many citizens would be calling for investigations and arrests and tweeting, writing, and calling the whitehouse about it. He may have underestimated us, just as they all did.

We will not go away!

bopper

Where is this Tory guy's proof about Pence? Who is he anyway? He's not credible, "Cheney is a reptilian."

FritzTheKat

1) Tory Smith video lost me in the first 2 minutes with talk of reptilian space aliens. 2) Oct 2006 Pence says of Hastert.."A man of integrity "..this was prior to revelation of Hastert pedo activities..to think every congressman knows what all their colleagues are up to is ludicrous ...this kind of trying to pick out every kernel of corn in this huge pile of pedogate shit does a disservice to serious investigation

Silverlining

Do you have a link to the Tory Smith video/YT, please?

thomccc

Five things Satanists are desperate that people don't accept despite mountains of evidence

  1. that reptilians exist despite the fact that "people" eat, rape and torture our species by the millions every year, just like a predatory species like carnivore retiles would do.

  2. that for every leftist who is a pedophile, probably 10 rightists are.

  3. that people on the earth who most try to give the image of being righteous and upstanding and caring about people are more likely to be just the opposite.
  4. that Satanist are master projectionalists. Every single thing you see them swarming to accuse somebody else of, that's what they are or do. For example: Hildebeast Clinton calling other people "super predators" when she is at least partly responsible for slaughtering, displacing and torturing more sentient Beings than any/ woman in all of history and maybe man, if it wasn't for that monster she's married to.

That Capitalism is Satanism and is the main vehicle for keeping people vulernable to being victims of these pedophile/Satanists/children of dragons

sponiatowski

That Capitalism is Satanism and is the main vehicle for keeping people vulernable to being victims of these pedophile/Satanists/children of dragons

That's where you lost me. Capitalism allows people to make their own choices. Social programs like National Health Care limit choices and demand us to buy into something we don't necessarily want while giving the socialists the image of being righteous and upstanding and caring about people. Capitalism never pretends to "care" about people. Think it over...and read Ayn Rand.

thomccc

Instead of getting all your ideas and opinions from someone else, or some book, why don't you try opening your eyes, and looking around you. I don't make my claims based on anything but what I see and discern

sponiatowski

There is currently on this earth no Laissez-faire Capitalist country. No where. And it is from the social programs that all unfairness and division arises. The United States is a mixed economy and has been since Social Security was implemented during the Great Depression. It is keeping people in a "dependent on government" status that thwarts freedom and happiness.

equineluvr

Your evidence that "reptilians" exist? No Ickesque articles either, please.

thomccc

All you have to do is go to any library and get all the evidence you need of the ancient figurines of lizard people. I'm not going even to mention all the legends and tales from our Ancestors, because of course you are so much wiser than they were, everybody else's experiences and testament means nothing unless you actually see it with your own eyes.

Which you probably do everyday in the mirror

samhara

Hillary and Obama are backing Pense - to take over from Trump

equineluvr

In addition, Tory Smith gave NO attribution to his allegations. We're just supposed to take his word for it.

The guy was obviously very ill (AIDS?), so after he died immediately it was "THEY offed him for exposing Pence!"

So sick of these no-evidence-based allegations.

remedy4reality

Yeah... I think they are all corrupt, every last one of them.

How has giving them the benefit of the doubt worked out since the Franklin Scandal?

Omnicopy

Uhh duh he went to the Catholic church

Cara_C

Being Catholic doesn't make you a pedophile.

Omnicopy

The priests are

Jem777

One thing he has going for him is he disavows the Catholic Church. He identifies as Christian which is very different from catholic. Just don't know if it is real. Think people should look into Flake

Omnicopy

Pence says he is a born again Catholic, that is not really disavowing the Catholic Church. It's kind of like half clinging to it!!!

Jem777

I did not know he said born again catholic...scary

samhara

Pence is a ringer. Wolf in Sheep's clothing.

Omnicopy

Pence is Catholic-need I say more!

Godwillwin

Not all Catholics are pedos. I'm a Catholic and yes, there are bad Popes and Priests, but the true religion itself does not promote pedophelia.

I'm not saying pence is or isn't a pedo- I'm undecided. But his being Catholic doesn't make him one.

WatchListMe

I believe the Catholic Church is so deep in pedophilia it is reasonable to compare the church to trafficking rings. "Hey, I just go to church doesn't make me a pedophile" has never been okay to me. I wouldn't be a part of a religion largely linked with pedophilia, because I know my monetary donations are making it possible for children to be raped.

Practice your beliefs amongst close friends and family on Sunday, and skip church. You'll build a tighter knit group of family friends, and make it harder for these scumbags to rape children.

Godwillwin

there hasn't been any pedo Priests in my town, so I am comfortable going to Mass here. a priest that is a friend of my parents says that in the 70's the seminaries were purposefully infiltrated by the one world order to disrupt the Church. he said there was a goal and a plan and it obviously succeeded. but the church as a faith and a religion is still pure and Holy.
"Now I say to you that you are Peter (which means 'rock'), and upon this rock I will build my church, and all the powers of hell will not conquer it." Matthew 16:18

remedy4reality

' It's does not promote pedophilia '

IT COVERS IT UP

Godwillwin

Yes. The bad popes and bishops abd priests do, but the true faith does not. Nor do the true faithful. There is nothing in the Chatechism teaching us to cover up pedos. If the pope is bad, then may he go dine with the rest of them. I don't want to cover anything up.

FICTIONLREALITY

KEEP ASKING ELECTED OFFICIALS OR AUTHORITIES TO GIVE ANSWERS NOW!

Demand for answers from Authorities / President Trump on FACTUAL EVIDENCE found by concerned people who were vigorously researching the DNC email dump released by Wikileaks and found strange emails using what seemed to be a coded language. The researching of emails eventually led to the coined term for this unprecedented citizen investigation now known as PIZZAGATE.

PIZZAGATE / PEDOGATE is not just a "USA citizen" investigation, it's not a DNC witch hunt, NO!! What the findings are bringing to light is that the problem of Human Trafficking, Pedofillia and a Satanic Culture seems to be running rampant across all forms of power positions, cultures who condone and or religions who are complicit or turn away the issue. The Pedofillia aspect is a Human Societal issue that needs to be addressed as is the Human Trafficking problem. The thing is all the positions and overseer's of these issues are CORRUPT and seem to be complicit on the same crimes they're supposed to be eradicating or keeping in check-from our society. Again, to be clear it is the PEOPLE of all parts of this Earth who are genuinely asking 'What's really going on here...on this Earth and why are the elected officials/authorities who are supposed to stop this blowing smoke in regards to ALL questions being asked about PIZZAGATE / PEDOGATE! Maybe the most important findings of PIZZAGATE is the OCCULT aspect!

IF NO ANSWERS........

OnHoldWithBreitbart

Just because someone pretends to be conservative that doesn't make them good, they may just be pretending to be conservative to keep their base for reelection purposes.

equineluvr

Yes. Politicians are ACTORS at their core. Why do you think there's a revolving door between politics and Hollywood?

remedy4reality

Your youtube link has Obama being a reptilian alien from where ?

oh... fuck.. take this shit down

OnHoldWithBreitbart

The left hates him maybe because they don't know he is a pedophile like most of them are. This is what they are most affraid of Pence, the left the establishment, that they will all be exposed as the pedophiles they are.

samhara

I think you mis-judge the "left." It's not monolithic. Also, Pence is against abortion. That would do it for all Leftists.

Godwillwin

It seems the general public left hates him because he was against gay marriage.

But the left in power doesn't seem to hate him nearly as much as they hate Trump. When the left in power hates someone, that someone is probably good. They hate President Trump more than they've ever hated anyone before

samhara

Exactly. And the "They" who hate Trump is not monolithic.

You have the mind - controlled sheeples who would love in their dreams to be on J. Stewart's or Colbert's show.. and they hate him because "everyone else" in their world [Artificial TV and Propaganda literature] does and for generations they have been targeted and influenced.

For them it's a school yard thing. And their idols are the Bullies.

Also, the Media is using the fear porn on them, I assume. Also, the long series of GLADIO fake "let's do gun control" events" has likely had it's affect too.

Just look at the current Music, Movies, TV shows and Ads. No wonder they are going nuts. They are "mainlining" that bull dung.

And honestly, I feel one reason Christians are smarter is because they have the prudence and wisdom to avoid all that, at the minimum, tasteless garbage.

The other so-called "Leftist" who hate him are bat-shited scared out of their mind that their crimes will now surface. Those are the ones who own and control the Mass Media [This #NWO program is at least 50 years in development]

For those types, they own us; we are cattle to them. We are eating their food, breathing their air, walking on their ground and we are being "uppity" for resisting or being reasonable about our "Free Men " rights. And how dare we.

Some of them may not even be scared?!. They are just angry because they didn't get "their way." And are not used to that.

I just love the look on Merkel's face lately, if that is still Merkel.

And I hope the Queen of "Great Britain" is dead and the doubles are there until they figure out how the Massive Pedo who is next in line, could ever be accepted as King.. Too many people know. They are a joke already.

Godwillwin

yep. so true about tv. we know that shows like "mistresses" are garbage, so dont allow ourselves to go there. when we do partake in the occassional bachelor in paradise etc for entertainment, we don't allow it to influence us. we recognize degenerate behavior when we see it. most importantly, we don't allow our children to watch this stuff. i know a mom who allows her 13 year old son to watch game of thrones. i've never watched it, but ive heard how it's got everything from torture to incest. i'm afraid there are more teens watching game of thrones than those that aren't :(

OnHoldWithBreitbart

You don't become a governor of a state by being naive....

equineluvr

Yep! All governors are BLOODLINE. This goes back to the ROYAL Governors of the 1700s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_government_in_the_Thirteen_Colonies

Bernard

So dumb

Jem777

Trying to give Pence the benefit of the doubt but something is not right. FBIanon said from the beginning in July he thought & hoped Flynn would be picked as VP. Now Pence is tight with Ryan was on capital hill for 12 years. He has to know that pedophelia is rampant and at least a witness. Flynn was given info on the elite pedo's and would not share with Pence. Flynn is a top notch intelligence officer/spy he of all people knows how to read people. Something is definitely going on.

As an aside I posted this earlier but it was deleted immediately by MF of course.Trump just gave the CIA the control over obama/Brennan secret drone program. Terrifying. The deepstate that is spying on all of us that can take over our cars and make them crash...think Michael Hastings....now has control of droning people. They have black budgets with no oversight. We should get this trending

samhara

They could hit Trump with a drone and pretend they didn't know who did it.

fogdryer

So dam true

EyeOfHorus

Russian fingerprintssssssssssssssss

WatchListMe

Remember, Julian Assange is dead. I believe it is now run by the CIA. The last batch of leaks could be BS to gain credibility before leaking false information. Believe NOTHING without evidence.

Edit: down votes for telling people to BELIEVE ONLY EVIDENCE BACKED CLAIMS? That is strange indeed...

privatepizza

Completely disagree. That's simply a black op to discredit what Wikileaks release. I respect your opinion, although intrigued about how you can be so absolutely sure of it, without any evidence of that whatsoever.

WatchListMe

Any evidence whatsoever? Remember the Internet blackout? That was the last time Julian Assange was ever seen. The webcam appearances he has done, the comments were filled with requests for him to hold up today's newspaper with he date. To write down any phrase on a piece of paper and hold it up as evidence this wasn't some digital rendering of his face. He refused every request, despite how simple they were.

I'm not here to argue, I just want to share with my fellow skeptics that this may be s load of shit. I find it hard to believe Trump would allow a trader to be his vice prez. He is smarter than that- but I also entertain the idea that Pence is a trader to trump and that scares me.

Believe me- I love trump and what he is doing for my country. Not her to argue- just to exchange theories and ideas.

samhara

that's two separate issues.

  1. Assange ? is he alive [likely no - or on some island somewhere enjoying his life out of the spotlight, which CGI, voice fakery and the Mass Media lie machine replace his actual person. ]

  2. The Vault 7 leak and the leaks from last Summer.

So "telling" how strong voices keep coming out conflating the two. And yes, seeding dissension.

The trove of Intel is totally separate from Branded Media Idol "Assange" .. I doubt that is even "his" real name.

privatepizza

It's good to hear your opinion, and I appreciate you sharing it. I'm not here to argue either, at all. I do get annoyed however when statements like this are made. All of what you've said, do all these points make you 100% sure you're correct when you state 'Assange is dead?'.

When he read out a transaction from the days' block chain the other week on live Perriscope tv, was that not more intellectually interesting and more proof than a date or paper held up? He was alive and kicking, live on periscope, talking about the effects of the latest releases, ie current news.

He did it again last week, a press conference live on Periscope where he answered specific questions from journalists which had been tweeted to him earlier that day. He also was talking about the CIA leaks and their effects over the past few days since they were released, ie current news. What would be the point to hold up a newspaper with the date if that wasn't enough?

If you follow Wikileaks, you'll know they're extremely concerned about the upcoming Eqadorian elections as Assange may loose his immunity. If you follow his colleagues and friends on twitter you'll see that they're still campaigning tirelessly for his release.

If he is dead, as you state, this would have to be the biggest fake show in history. I can't understand how people can be even entertaining the idea, unless they're being paid to do so to discredit Wikileaks and their leaks. Because as I see it, if you're following, it's a no brainer that he's absolutely fine.

samhara

No such thing as "live" There is always a delay.

I'm thinking , even that they specially call it "live" , is suspicious.

samhara

"Live" ? hmthp.. Dunno about that. They did "lIve" on 9/11 too.

Nothing is "live" unless you are there. And even then one will more often than not [most people] be totally unaware of what is actually going on.

remedy4reality

love trump... and totally relieved he is in there... but the swamp is 99% corrupt and everybody needs to realize that.

stellarcorpse

Not to sound like a drama queen but the day Trump picked Pence , I cried. Almost lost my support right there and then, Worse mistake he ever made in my humble opinion.

PizzaGateDiscovery

What were your reasons? I would have preferred Sessions rather than Pence, but I didn't have quite as strong a reaction as you did. Why not pick someone who supported you from the beginning, instead of Pence.

It seemed like Pence was pushed on Trump by his kids. I would like to know more about the choice. I don't trust Pence's wife either.

stellarcorpse

Same response I gave Godwillwin:

It was obvious to me that he was Establishment and being pushed by the likes of Paul Ryan that is his close friend. I saw this scenario as it was similar to what they did with Reagan/Bush. I also did not like that Pence had been an avid supporter of Iraq and had NeoCon ties. It seems contradictory to Trumps antiwar stance and made him seem disingenuous. I was always afraid they would attempt to assassinate Trump and install Pence. I always say here , not to be a pompous ass, my my gut is more often than not right. That's is why what I say about pizzagate that is often disregarded should perhaps be taken with more seriousness.

equineluvr

You are in good company.

JIM MARRS: PENCE IS TRUMP'S DEATH WARRANT

Marrs: Pence is Trump's Death Warrant

stellarcorpse

I will watch/read. Did not know his POV on this. I always loved Jim Marrs. Esp. his books.

Godwillwin

Why? What did u know about him at that time that the rest of us didn't?

stellarcorpse

It was obvious to me that he was Establishment and being pushed by the likes of Paul Ryan that is his close friend. I saw this scenario as it was similar to what they did with Reagan/Bush. I also did not like that Pence had been an avid supporter of Iraq and had NeoCon ties. It seems contradictory to Trumps antiwar stance and made him seem disingenuous. I was always afraid they would attempt to assassinate Trump and install Pence. I always say here , not to be a pompous ass, my my gut is more often than not right. That's is why what I say about pizzagate that is often disregarded should perhaps be taken with more seriousness.

Godwillwin

You make good points - especially about raegan and bush. I had not yet reflected on the fact that the few recent good presidents had/have bad VPs.

stellarcorpse

ya, they always try push some Globalist cock in there as VP if the Prez is not. Look at JFK.

SayWhatNOWAY

I myself wanted Sessions as VP.

stellarcorpse

Me too.

stellarcorpse

ok. who is the shill fuck that down voated me?? reality hurts bitch!!

Godwillwin

I didn't downvote you though. I'm not asking snarkily. Genuinely curious of why you didn't like him at that time?

SayWhatNOWAY

Trump knows what is going on. If Pence is a traitor Trump already knows!

equineluvr

And you know this HOW? Based upon Trump's PR?

SayWhatNOWAY

Trump is always three steps ahead!

equineluvr

So THEY tell us.

I think we're all being played, and I say that as someone who voted for Trump.

privatepizza

OP, could you direct me to where in Wikileaks it's been revealed that Mike Pense is plotting to take down the president please? This is the first I've heard of it.

Dejure

Agreed! Unsourced claim!

podesta4prison

Julian Assange tweeted about people close to him, though he never said Pence was in on it (in fact seemed to give Pence benefit of the doubt). Tweets in order:

https://www.twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/841609854540238849

https://www.twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/841612345185046528

https://www.twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/841697728379965441

https://www.twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/841699616324255745

Let me also note that this IS his official twitter. He made it this year, and Wikileaks' twitter introduced it as official. Twitter refuses to verify him.

privatepizza

Hey thanks a lot for this.

common_sense

Your first two tweets are out of order. Also please no mobile links.

podesta4prison

My bad. Fixed

fogdryer

I read it myself. Sad if true Also read pence bes friend is a pedo and he knows about it ----does not want him to go down. :(

privatepizza

Hmmm... strange. Who is Pences best friend here?

fogdryer

Yea, sorry forgot his name

TrueAmerican

Cant really say his name on here... dig a little more...

privatepizza

Oh come on... if you say 'his best friend is a pedo and he wants to cover for him', but can't give us a name, I have no option but to call BS. Sorry.

Womb_Raider

Agreed. @TrueAmerican and @fogdryer are looking like bundles of sticks to me.

PGTAway818949

Scrutinize. This. Heavily. Vault7 has not sold me on wikileaks and creating dissention in the administration, or at least creating the appearance of deception in the public view, could be a tactic. Vault 7 may very well be a limited hangout, in order to garner favor for wikileaks amongst Trump supporters.

WatchListMe

I agree with you completely. And I view the large opposition to your completely rational and reasonable viewpoint strange.

I personally do not believe WikiLeaks is operated by Assange anymore. I honk he was black bagged and now the CIA, or someone else runs the show. Disinformation. Nothing is more valuable than a trustworthy mouth piece.

samhara

Yes, I think Assange is taken out.

But I also think he wasn't a "good guy" to begin with, and that's why the leaks and leads that came later are better than the early original ones.

The original leads were all limited hang - out and targeted to and for specific State enemies.

bb22

Wikileaks was responsible for leaking all of Podesta's emails during the election campaign, which started off the whole "spirit cooking" thing that took off right before "pizzagate" started trending. So don't throw them under the bus too quickly. They played a role in Trump being elected in the first place, even if it was some intangible role that's hard to quantify.

They also hosted the DNC email hack which may have had an even bigger impact on the election since it was earlier and forced a resignation within the DNC, showed rigging against Bernie, etc.

PGTAway818949

Assanges internet being cut at the embassy and all the strange happenings with wiki leaks since happened after the podesta leaks.

privatepizza

How 'limited hangout' can you be when you dump the whole hacking arsenal of the CIA into the wild, with 99% still to come?

It's not the remit of Wikileaks to create dissection in the administration. They release what they are given, if they think the public have a right to know. And imho the public have a right to know what the paid officials are doing secretly, especially when they're saying the complete opposite in their narrative.

PGTAway818949

But this wasn't anything really new. It's new news the cia has access to this, but not surprising. And we will see if that 99% ever comes about. Just like that bombshell Clinton release pre election that never happened.

privatepizza

I hear you. It's good to hear your thoughts

lawfag123

Interesting, where does it say that in the leaks?

New_years_day

Smells like a hit piece

PawnsInTheGame

Pence is the LBJ of this administration.

dFrog

That's consistent with what Robert Steele has been telling us. "Trump is surrounded by traitors"; " Trump is in enemy hands."

Priebus and Pence are probably the most establishment part of his team. Regardless, anyone taking aim at WikiLeaks for doing what it does can fuck off as far as I'm concerned.

DeathToMasons

We knew that before Steele. And Steele gives you some truth so you trust him. Then he says The Rothschilds have nothing to do with anything, Not to investigate MacCoby, he is clean, and we should not push to jail anybody, just happy with the truth. But yeah, Pence is a rat. He is a neocon war industry hawk for christ sake, and the wars are based on a false flag that we did. He knows this.

dFrog

Steele says Rothschild is at the top and to leave Nora Maccoby and her father alone. That doesn't mean "don't investigate." No offense, but why are people always wrong about what he says? If the truth and reconciliation thing doesn't jibe with people, I get that (I even expect it), but otherwise, all of these claims people make about his positions have been contradicted in the interviews he's given this year. I can only conclude that they simply haven't seen them or don't remember what he said.

bb22

Steele is total disinfo. This is the same guy who denies the Maccobys have anything to do with anything, despite Max Maccoby being Alefantis and Brock's lawyer in a blackmail case, despite the Maccobys being advisors and board members on Haitian orphanages, etc. The same guy who says expose the pedos... but don't arrest them. Give me a break.

Steele also wants to radically change the electoral process in the US and reading between the lines it seems like he wants to do away with the electoral college, which is a states' rights protection that prevents states like California and New York from running the country. The guy is a douche. I wish people would stop even mentioning his name.

HossCartwright

Not completely convinced he's disinfo; however, I did wonder about the Maccoby references he keeps making and the amnesty for animals bent. Any info on the blackmail you referenced? What was that about?

bb22

No idea. It's on legal papers you can find scans of online but obviously it doesn't go into the details of the case itself. I think it was settled but I can't remember well. Just Google something like "pizzagate maccoby" and you should find lots of info.

pocketfulofstones

Ok, I was under the impression Steele was a shill as well. But I'm thinking about it now, and expose but don't arrest may not be the worst advise. Hear me out

Scenario A: Pedos are arrested, and this is exposed to the public

Scenario B: Pedos are arrested, and the public is not told.

Scenario C: Pedos not arrested, but public is made aware

Scenario D: Pedos not arrested, and public is unaware.

Obviously, we want A, but what is the second best option here? I think for the change to happen, the most important thing is for the public to be made aware of the crimes. So long as that doesn't happen, Trump will never be able to get the brainwashed on his side.

By the way, operation postcard is tomorrow, you should join in! I just made a post about it here: https://voat.co/v/pizzagatemods/1720434

DeathToMasons

How would you hide arresting big dawgs? And without such arrest, how can you say you took down the ring. Either they take them on and take them down or they don't. And even worse if they never try. So far, zilch to our knowledge.

abattoirdaydream

People are already as aware as they can be about light sentences and non-arrests. Hell they had a long running prime time show about it.

I'll take option B tyvm.

equineluvr

Excellent summary of RDS's bullshit.

He also espouses the "alien" crapola. Besides, there's no such thing as "former CIA."

He is most definitely a disinfo agent.

samhara

Yep. He's very condescending. Recycled from mis-directing around 9/11.

dFrog

Steele has stood up for two Maccobys, saying, "They are not pedophiles as far as I know."

He has also said that he sees the electoral college as necessary and called it "treasonous" for anyone to attempt to steer the electors' votes.

Every single time I see someone call Steele a shill, it seems pretty clear that they haven't spent as much time watching him as I have. He also answered all six of my questions via his Reddit AMA. If you want to convince me that he's a bullshitter, you need to do better than that.

equineluvr

Ooooooh!!!! He answered your questions on AMA. That PROVES that he's not a disinfo agent. LMAO!

SuperJohnWayne

LOL

dFrog

I didn't say that at all, nor do I think it. His answering my questions doesn't speak to his legitimacy, it speaks to my familiarity with what he has to say, as does the time I've spent in the past few weeks watching just about everything I could find from him. People keep saying, "He thinks this, he thinks that," but either I have recent memory of him saying otherwise or he contradicted it when he answered one of my questions.

OnHoldWithBreitbart

Agreed I knew he was a shill and disinfo, not credible before you posted this. He was quoted as saying "Donald Trump thought he was going to lose the election". He's off putting also. McCcoby's are def involved and Steele just exposed his clients the McCcobys

DeathToMasons

No, Steele said MacCoby is a good man doing good work, nothing to see here. Steele is a spook. He is trash but he will give you some truth. That is what spooks do.

samhara

I believe he was correct in the assessment that Trump was unaware he was going to win. Everyone was preparing for HRC. And when it was announced in his campaign room with him there - there was dead silence. No one expected it.

I know Steele was a stupid little snake for 10 years.. Hire to mis - direct the Hacker type from the 9/11 issue. Lying. He is also very arrogant and lacks authentic credentials. It's all smoke and mirrors with him.

Ocelot

Where'd you read that bit about when it was announced? I'd love to read about that.

samhara

Someone who watched it. I don't agree with all of his opinions. Both he and I have something in common. Neither of us paid any attention to the campaign contest [except for me when HRC looked to have been thrown into a truck on 9/11 and then looked like she was covered by doubles and CGI] So our eyes are fresh to what goes on on TV, since we never watch it. And sometimes "beginner's eyes" see things other people don't notice . I did not watch, so I can not verify.

"Trump's appearance was also strange in many ways. When he walked out, only about two people were clapping. The rest were recording him on their cellphones. They had to play the music very loud to make it look like there was noise in the room. When the music stopped, instead of hearing loud cheers, we hear a few sad whistles and some words that sound like catcalls as much an anything else. When Trump said, “She congratulated us on our victory”, and paused, you would have expected the room to have erupted in celebration. . . but nothing. Dead silence. Again indicating very poor direction. The guy with the crowd cues must have gone home early. Trump then read from the two visible Teleprompters in a wooden manner, and the crowd was still very quiet. It was the most strange and somber celebration I have ever witnessed. He was up there all alone, with his family and supporters hanging back as if they thought he was an imposter. You would have expected them to be gathered closely around him, hugging him and whooping, but they stood in line way back from him, like Westworld robots."

http://mileswmathis.com/trump2.pdf

Pres. Trump is very inspiring and enthusiastic, but I don't think he actually thought he would win.

Ocelot

That document, my God...do you believe what that guy is saying? That is an insane angle I haven't ever considered. This would explain a lot of the inconsistencies with the Trump presidency. And with the lack of PG arrests. Who is this guy? Why have I never seen this theory before? Honestly...I think this is more plausible than Trump being on our side OR being a total pedo. Just a guy hired to play the role of the idiot who got switcharoo'd right at the end. What in the world? This has blown my mind.

samhara

I'm glad you liked it.

The part where Mathis explains "Hillary got sick or something" I don't agree with necessarily. I think it was the pressure of all this massive network of crime surfacing because of the loss of control over the elite hacking tools, which caused HRC's cause to wilt.

. They weren't going to let her take it. That is all. The Bush / Obama / Osama [lol] / Clinton Nexus had a plan and it had to be stopped.

As I see it, that was why they released some files the Friday before the election. "She" [ whoever "She" is . She may be many doubles.] had to back down . They had to get "her" to back down?

That's my theory and it doesn't agree with Miles Mathis', but he hasn't looked into "Pizzagate" and Pizza synchronicities in the Mass Media, as I have.

If you like Miles Mathis work the next one I suggest is his article on Lincoln.

Lincoln's Assassination was also a manufactured event ](http://mileswmathis.com/lincoln.pdf)) https://archive.is/XNGEA

Major problem with archive.is is that won't save images. So maybe save this one yourself, if you like it.

The images are often essential to the argument in his essay'. Mathis is a painter and mathematician and uses his visual skills to examine history, via photos and analysis of photo fakery.

Here's an archive version with images http://web.archive.org/web/20170113110939/http://mileswmathis.com/lincoln.pdf

Ocelot

That's a good point. It would certainly be stupid to continue to push such a compromised individual. Man. So there's no chance of PG being taken care of? Honestly, I feel a bit silly for thinking that in the first place. And why has this theory never come up on this forum? People just don't want to believe it?

I will look into that. I'm not sure I'm ready for that kind of red pill at the moment.

samhara

I don't feel Trump is compromised, necessarily. "The jury is still out".

Keep the faith. Just hope for the best. We are so lucky Trump defeated HRC.

HRC / Obama / Clinton / Bush / Soros / Brzinziski / Kissinger / David Rockefeller / Rothschild. Wow they had big plans for the Future.. And now those are axed..

I think Trump is enjoying his new role. People are starting to really enjoy him. Even though the News Media holds up a distorted mirror. Some people can bypass it.

People are quick to dismiss him; it's another way to go along with the Crowd and with Brock; much easier to go with crowd, with the haters and the doubters, than against them.

I've written about it many times here and had "conversations " /interchanges about it; many times here on VOAT, but you just haven't read those things.

If you look through my comments you will see it.

It's not that rare of an idea.. That was what was told to everyone by Dr. Steven P.

Also, the emails released over the Summer also confirm that Trump was Hillary's pick for running mate since their studies showed she would fail against any [real] Republican.

Also, Trump is an actor and he was a Democrat 3 years ago.

That's just well known in my circle.

However, none of that means Trump is not rising to the occasion.

Ocelot

Thanks for the insight. I'm still new to this area of thought.

I would hope that Trump could rise to the occasion. However, if it's as Mathis says it is, then it doesn't matter at all, as Trump is overridden by the powers that be. He even acts like "President" has meant nothing for centuries. I'll check out your other comments. And I'll continue to keep the faith.

samhara

I pick and choose what I take of Mathis' interpretation. He also believe "Pizzagate" is fake and created to distract. I don't go along with him on that either.

Yes, the Presidents have all been front men for others. Also, Kings / Queens were also picked to front for others. That's nothing new.

I'm being ignored, but that's alright. I get my say. And I do have people who do read and listen, which is great..

It's about who they are who negotiated Trump into power.. It wasn't an accident.

So sure, the Prez is always a puppet, but for at least the last 50 years they've been puppet to the same gang, and now there is a change; and I am very glad.

Trump is only still alive because he has some powerful military and Intel people behind him - And those citizens / patriots have been planning this for at least 10 years

OnHoldWithBreitbart

I heard Steele speak for a minute on a youtube that was enough for me. Trump never believed he was going to lose. He was in it to win from the get go.

Martel-Sobieski

Trump did what he had to do to win. Same reason reagan made HW bush his vp and JFK made Johnson his VP. Both of those VPs were complete opposites of what the president supported and they both were of very questionable morality

They had to do something to placate the establishment long enough to get elected. Both men underestimated just how evil these people are and what lengths theyd go through to keep their agenda rolling forward, and both got shot for it.

Our government is extremely corrupt right now.

Bannon was given a created position of equal importance to prebius precisely so trump could placate the establishment while also having someone he trusts in the inner circle.

IMO I think the only ones he trusts are his family, kushner, bannon, conway, and mattis.

BlackListMedia

I can see Conway or Mattis caving..

CotterPyke

(((Kushner))) should absolutely not be trusted, but otherwise I totally agree.

fogdryer

Kushner will be fired The Israel lobbying is too much pressure for him. He is comprised. Trump will fire him.

stellarcorpse

same thing i'm saying. I only trust Sessions and Bannon.

DukeofAnarchy

Trump did what he had to do to win.

BS. Trump picked Pence for the same reason he kept Priebus and endorsed McCain: he was a fucking ignoramus who had no idea what he was doing. Those decisions did not at all help Trump win; as the candidate whose anti-establishment positions were the basis of his popularity, he gained less than nothing by his doomed attempt to placate the establishment.

P.S. I'm saying this as a Trump supporter. Ann Coulter called Pence, "Trump's first mistake." http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/07/14/ann-coulter-pence-combo-platter-disaster/

OnHoldWithBreitbart

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

stellarcorpse

that saying can get you shot.

MolochHunter

you dont think sessions makes the grade? why not?

dFrog

Agreed.

ArthurEdens

And both were shot

Godwillwin

And maybe Flynn the fall guy

reasonedandinformed

I think he placed Flynn, after the canary trap, in a more powerful black role off the books...the hope we have if the 4D chess is real. Flynn, an honorable man who is sickened like us by this evil, and son have been chirping about #PedoGate.

Godwillwin

i hope so. there's so many brutus backstabbers that the pres still needs to fire, but flynn was never was one of them. hopefully flynn is still at least advising him

Godwillwin

When was the joint statement that pence made this hastert comment?

duhiki

Going by the link in the meme, either 10-4-2006 or 4-10-2006 ... long enough for it to be public record. Haven't found anything stating Pence has a different stance on the subject.

Godwillwin

If he said hastert was a man of integrity in 2006, that was b4 accusations of his molesting boys came out. He was accused of that in 2015, right?

Not saying for certain that pence is or isn't good, just want to make sure we fact check

HomeboyChrisBanned

What makes you think that trump is damn near the only guy in DC who isnt a pedophile? You act like he didnt even know Epstein or Roy Cohn. Gimmee a fuckin break you 5D chess retards. At least acknowledge the possibility.

samhara

Doesn't matter who Trump is. It matters who is backing him .

We just got told no one, not even Insiders, can rely on Intel. All bets are off.

It's a great relief and a great unknown danger. Who has got the elite tools and can use them?

The most powerul tool , of course , is the Mass Media Machine.

It's very intelligent of Trump; whether of his own or upon the suggestion of adviser/ backers, to make them our first named enemy.

Godwillwin

No one is saying it isn't possible. Anything is possible, but the fact that both parties were so against trump leads me to believe it's because he truly is an outsider and isn't compromised/can't be controlled. He has not been in politics. Most of these pedos have ties to politics or Hollywood shows that involve kids. Trump had neither of these ties.

If they had anything on Trump, CNN would be plastering on the screen 24/7, but so far it seems they've got nothing except the You CAN grab em by the p.

If some evidence comes out that trump is involved, I'll definitely consider it like I consider all the other pizzagate evidence

But the Epstein link is just that Epstein was a regular at one of the trump tower bars. There he saw Epstein with very young women. But he didn't see him with children in the trump tower bar. His comment was based on him being with young women. Is that gross? yes. Is that illegal? No

HomeboyChrisBanned

You think CNN wants to bring up Epstein? Hahahahahahahaha we already KNOW Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton are involved in that. And Trump was friends with the Clintons too.

Godwillwin

Just because the Clintons went to trump's wedding does not make trump a pedophile. The clintons were socialites

samhara

Trump is himself an insider and knows a lot. Even about 9/11 [d'uh]

Reality is: That is to his and our advantage.

That's how he knew that the first thing to do; The first thing on the agenda is to call out the Networks as liars. "Very Fake News" And that's what he did. And that's what everybody's going to find out too. It's evident .

That's why all the newscasters have that shit look on their faces. And why people who buy into that mind - control chatter and influence all look very distressed right now.

They weren't distressed bout Obama being the son of a murderous Indonesian Cult leader.. Too strange. That's how deep their trance is.

They all must slowly wake - up; that is the only way.

Hopefully before Obama raises some killer mobs to wipe out the dissenters from his program,, as his father reportedly did for Suharto.

https://reclaimourrepublic.wordpress.com/2014/02/06/video-loretta-fuddy-the-cult-of-subud-barack-hussein-soebarkahobama-and-his-real-father/

I have more links but am working on a back - up computer. Yesterday, windows told me there was another computer on my network with the same IP as mine.. So I'm on a back - up computer and don't have all the links at hand.

Subud, the cult of the likely bio-Dad to "Obama," was promoted Internationally by British Intelligence officer who was chief in the Middle East in the early part o the 20th c. named John G. Bennett. [his middle name sounds like Gandalf and he looks like a "Wizard" too. I wonder if he was known by Tolkien?]

Godwillwin

but hes not all chummy with the politicians. he's not that type of insider - not raping kids to climb the political ladder. the anons are saying that he knew of the pedo problem but was totally caught off guard by the depths of it.

i'm just realizing that upon the completion of march, i will have been researching pizzagate and tweeting awareness for 6 months. i reallllly want to get back to my routine life. :( when will he arrest them?

cakeoflightylight

Once you're the age of consent you can fuck anyone you please. Being with younger women doesn't automatically make you a pedo, even though it may look "bad." I'm married to someone 10 years younger than I am. How much younger is Melania than Trump? Like, over 20 years I think. That doesn't make him a pedo. Jeffrey Epstein knows lots of people, not everyone who has ever met him is a pedo. But anyone who has been to his island probably went there intentionally to screw kids and go to Illuminati temple.

Godwillwin

Right. I agree. Epstein publicly hung around young women. On his island it is says there were underage girls and boys/children as well as legal girls that were 18, 19, and 20.

But there is no flight record of Trump going there. Only talk of it

equineluvr

Trump's name appears in the flight log once.

cakeoflightylight

People keep saying this but I have the flight log on my laptop and I don't see his name. What is the page number?

equineluvr

Depo of Mark Epstein, Jeffrey's brother. Trump begins on bottom of p. 73.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1508967-deposition-excerpts.html

cakeoflightylight

http://archive.is/l3zJI I guess all these peeps must be pedos

cakeoflightylight

Is that a ride from Florida to NYC or what? Is that the Lolita Express?

OttoMaddox

From Hastert's wiki page, his connection to Tony Podesta: "In his first year of graduate school, Hastert spent three months in Japan as part of the People to People Student Ambassador Program. One of Hastert's fellow group members was Tony Podesta (then the president of the Young Democrats at University of Illinois at Chicago Circle)"

OnHoldWithBreitbart

Mike Pence is just off putting. Here is palling around with pedophile Bush and the most recent superbowl... https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffreedomdaily.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F02%2Fbush-superbowl-coin-toss-pence.jpg&f=1

sugarskull

Seems to hang out with all kinds of pedos...

stellarcorpse

wow.

equineluvr

The scumbag James Baker was there with them too.

bb22

Call me conspiratorial but part of me wonders if Trump didn't put Pence in as VP knowing he had some kind of pedophilia dirt on him, just so he could look convincingly look like he was really unaware of how widespread it is in DC and so that accusations of political witch hunts won't stick to him. Pence seems like a really upstanding traditional sort of Christian guy, but we know how that works in the church. Looks can sometimes be deceiving and something is "off" about Pence at least in how naive he seems about things.

At the very least maybe Pence could be forced to resign when pedogate goes wide open, and hopefully we can get another VP because God forbid Paul Ryan be on any fast track to the White House. That asswipe needs to resign too, or have his Soros connections exposed or something.

hels

“I will splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the wind." - John Fitzgerald "Jack" Kennedy, assassinated by George H.W. Bush, J Edgar Hoover, LBJ, Giancama, and the CIA. 3 days later.

We need to protect our President. He's surrounded by enemies. Just like JFK

Jem777

Exactly. So why did he just give them the drone power

Mrs_Ogynist01

Taking down his own VP for pedophilia would really make him look credible and non-partisan. Just saying.

HossCartwright

This was early on when the scandal was first breaking. I would make a note and see if anything else looks suspicious; however, I caution against a witch-hunt that implicates GOP members for backing one of their own before all the facts were out. I've got faith in Trump, not Pence. I have to. Otherwise we are all seriously f*cked.

remedy4reality

lol how naive are you? You think this tight pack of shitbags does not know EVERYTHING the other is up to?

You still maintain hope that nearly ALL these assholes are not fucking corrupt to the core ?

can_of_wurms

We all see which side of the witch hunt you're on.

remedy4reality

There is no witch hunt, stupid fuck. There are so many rapists running around Washington, if justice was served it's good to know you will be there shouting: ' stop the witch hunt !! '

How does Podesta have White House access for nearly 20 years without his crimes being known and then be a few votes from running the State Department under Killary?

Please.. this sub is filling up with morons.

can_of_wurms

Innocent until proven guilty, dumbass. Dig deeper on Pence before rushing to conclusions.

FeLpZ187

You are an idiot.

remedy4reality

There is PRIMA FACIE evidence right now to send Podesta to jail.. He's getting cover from the entire MSM and working at the CIA/WAPO to undermine the President.

Your statement is retarded, on its face. You have no idea what the fuck you're looking at.

OnHoldWithBreitbart

you sound like a shill discouraging investigation. What do you think the OP is going to give up digging into this? Keep digging folks ignore these shills

remedy4reality

Hastert was SELECTED for the very fact that he was compromised and anyone who called him a 'GOOD MAN' for raping children is a piece of shit.

When did I mention not hashing out Pence's shady background? I say dig deep, and dig from a presumption of GUILT.

Ps... I UPVOATED your post.

Godwillwin

This is concerning. Many are tweeting to the president

carmencita

I never liked Pence, still don't. There is something strange though today when there are just as many hits against him as there were yesterday against Spielberg (never liked him either). Just Sayin'. Keeping My Eyes Wide Open. We will see. Hastert doesn't live far from Pence in Indiana. Something to think about. Lot's of questions.

Godwillwin

Yes. It will be interesting to see how this pans out.

The announcement of arrests coming several weeks ago then nothing happening is being blamed on pence by some

carmencita

That is why I am holding my breath.....I will pass out soon if I can't exhale. This is a real pickle. I read a while back that possibly Pence has friends in the NSA and they snitched that Flake was on the list Foley had. That is why Foley was dumped. Who knows. One reason I did not vote for Clinton (among many others like I have hated her for years although I am a Dem) is that they put Kaine in place in case she got impeached or sent to jail. Kaine/Pence pretty much the same. Both are serious War Hawks and possible Boy Lovers. I think it will all slowly come out to those that are willing to read between the lines and not just take things at face value. Much like investigative research.

Godwillwin

Yeh. The warhawks are suspicious. Gotta always consider their motives