Why did George Lucas / Stephen Spielberg decide that the Indiana Jones character should be a paedophile? ( pizzagate )

submitted by Ihatepizza2

Here is a link that has a transcript of the meetings where George Lucas and Stephen Spielberg (and Lawrence Kasdan) discuss and form the Indiana Jones character:

http://archive.is/ogQTX

Here is the relevant passage:

George Lucas : I was thinking that this old guy could have been the mentor. He could have known this little girl when she was just a kid. Had an affair with her when she was eleven.

Lawrence Kasdan : And he was forty-two.

George Lucas: He hasn’t seen her in twelve years. Now she’s twenty-two. It’s a real strange relationship.

Steven Spielberg : She had better be older than twenty-two.

George Lucas : He’s thirty-five, and he knew her ten years ago when he was twenty-five and she was only twelve. It would be amusing to make her slightly young at the time.

Steven Spielberg : And promiscuous. She came onto him .

George Lucas: Fifteen is right on the edge. I know it’s an outrageous idea, but it is interesting. Once she’s sixteen or seventeen it’s not interesting anymore. But if she was fifteen and he was twenty-five and they actually had an affair the last time they met. And she was madly in love with him and he...........

And here is a line from "Marion" the female in the film:

Marion: "I was too young, it was wrong and you knew it,"

Indys response: "You knew what you were doing"?

Relevant to pizzagate because we all know that Hollywood is a huge part of the problem / puzzle and we need to identify those involved in spreading the culture of paedophilia.

Silencio

This puts episode 1 of star wars into a new light! Im a bit on the older side, and I remember at the time it came out we hated the casting decision for anakin because they picked a 6 year old boy, and we expected a teenager, bc there was supposed to be a romance between anakin & amadala but it made no sense to have romance between a 6 year old and a much older girl....maybe it made sense to some people like george lucas.

MattHelm

This was in 1979 when they were figuring out the story for Raiders of the Lost Ark and back then Lucas and Spielberg were the two hottest most powerful guys in showbiz. I think they probably went to VIP coke and pedo parties in those days they were invited to participate maybe they did or maybe they just stood around and watched. Either way it's gross and I also wondered in 1981 when I saw Raiders just how old Marion was when Indy took advantage of her. Probably she was 15 or 16 based on how old she was in Raiders around 30 I think and Indy was 35 to 40.

equineluvr

" Interestingly, George Lucas, the writer and director of the Star Wars movies is named by Cathy O'Brien as a NASA/NSA operative."

http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/brotherhoodpart7.shtml

Lucas used Hollywood Madam Heidi Fleiss' services

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3620128/Johnny-Depp-Star-Wars-creator-George-Lucas-Jack-Nicholson-names-Hollywood-Madam-Heidi-Fleiss-infamous-black-book.html

For YEARS rumors have circulated that George Lucas is a freak who REQUIRES anyone starring in his movies (even the boys/men) to have sex with him. However, those reports may have been scrubbed from the Net -- at least, I can't put my finger on one ATM.

TweedleDee3000

Umm…..because they themselves are satanist jew pedophile trash?

VieBleu

he apparently screwed everyone over who worked with him early on. Probably later too if he could.

VieBleu

I hated Pulp Fiction - it was like bright poisonous candy being shoved down people's gullets, that's how I saw it anyway. I really dislike Tarantino as well as a person and as a fake artist.

quantokitty

WTF?!!! Sick shit. And we pay to see these asshole's movies?

ArthurEdens

They have mal-developed brains, not kidding

kestrel9

George Lucas appears to like him some 10-12 year olds who are grow into border line boring 15 year olds. He says a 25 year old man with a 'slightly young' 12 year old is 'amusing'. Or maybe he wanted to give a shout out to some of his rich 'special needs' viewers. Nothing new really, Hillary Clinton is on record defending a poor misunderstood rapist from his 12 year old victim. So much of Hollywood is a criminal pedo cesspool, which is why they love Hillary so much, stink begets stink.

seekingpeace

When you have a philandering husband, you see any woman (girl) as a threat.

kestrel9

Excellent point.

turitelle

I didn't watch it because don't watch gratuitous or graphic violence. It desensitizes a person and is not good for the soul. Nor do I, as you say feel sympathetic towards evil people. None of that interesting or entertainment to me.

sponiatowski

A new look at this article, thank you! BTW, I'm even embarrassed in ADMITTING I'm a Pizza-Gater. Personally, I'd rather tell people I wear ladies underwear than say I'm studying Pizza-Gate. (I don't BTW).

sponiatowski

Hollywood seems to have an entrance test. This doesn't surprise me at all. They wouldn't be allowed to make movies without accepting pedophilia.

TheSeer

It has to do with two things. First, they are 'screening' for sociopathy. So if you will do anything to become 'rich and famous', ANYTHING, they want you to prove it. If they know you are a sociopath, then its impossible you will have empathy and 2nd thoughts about anything you are TOLD to do, during your career, wear a dress, same sex relationship on screen, support a political candidate like Hillary, promote the cause of the day like Leonardo DiCaprio.

Second, it is because if they 'make' you, they want you to know they can 'break' you. And blackmail material is a surefire way to do that.

sponiatowski

What an excellent and insightful post! I'm so glad you're here...and so glad you piped up. Now, any suggestions on how to rectify this problem? Is there anything to do other than full exposure of the system?

TheSeer

No, its an information war. If we don't win the information war, then when action is taken, it will be spun, and those who have taken action will be labelled 'extremists' and 'terrorists' and 'white supremacists'. So it will actually forward the NWO objectives.

Sun Tzu said "Win first, then you fight."
People have to come to understand they have been lied to about everything. Russia, Israel, the government, Wall St, the media and its ownership, the legal system, the education system, the 'health' system. The truth in most of those cases is almost diametrically opposed to what we are told to believe. The common man in Russia should be the common man in America's greatest ally. The leaders of Israel (esp. behind the scenes =aka Rothschilds) should be the common man's greatest enemy.

sponiatowski

That type of thinking won't work. Clannishness only leads to mob mentality and gang warfare. The ideals of the Common Man in America are not consistent throughout the group. They all want different things. Why, if the ideals of the Common Man are diverse in the U.S., would they be the ideals of the Common Man in Russia? The correct answer is to fight for Individual Rights and the right to hold those beliefs and pursue those beliefs peacefully in a free land, in a free world.

DeathToMasons

No explanation I know of that explains their rationale. Wipe them out...All of them.

EndIsComing

There are certainly pedophiles in Hollywood, but this is a clear slide thread, in my opinion. Downvote shit like this. Don't post it here.

Ihatepizza2

Can you elaborate on this comment please. As per my closing remarks hollywood (and separately the music industry) are obviously heavily involved. As these people are 'celebrities' it means there is buckets of information available out there, including things like this that give us hints. Every fact starts with a clue , and there are definite clues here that GL and SS express at the very lest some sort of tacit approval to making a 'hero' character as a paedo.

If you wrote a movie and someone said 'oh lets make the hero a paedo', would you :

1) Get physically sick

2) Object profusely

3) Continue with the conversation / not call it out / provide your tacit approval - just like you did here?

These people are sick and related to this whole fucking mess. I cant say that either of them are involved, but the fact that this conversation even exists speaks volumes about these lords of cinema . Your comments say more about you than this subject my friend. Keep digging!

EndIsComing

This isn't new information; it's been widely publicly known for years. And it's not a smoking gun like Roman Polanski or something, just one more data point of evidence that Hollywood is fucked up - and a pretty weak one, as these things go; I wouldn't even say it's convincing proof in and of itself that Lucas or Spielberg are pedophiles, as opposed to immersed in a pedophile culture. I wouldn't say I'm any more convinced now than I was before reading the post - but then again, as I said, the post is not remotely new information, so that may be a large part of my reaction. I'd say that the general trend of child starlets turning into psychologically-damaged sluts as soon as they outgrow their first image is a near-infinitely more compelling argument for Hollywood's status as Pedo Paradise than a single off-color conversation between writers about their character.

Ihatepizza2

Absolutely no argument with anything you have said.

Aphoticamy

I've always been bothered by that aspect of this movie, which is probably why the 2nd one is my favorite out of the series-an unpopular opinion. However, I was twelve when my parent's 30-something goodbuddy Don cornered me in a moving car and groped me, so I guess I'm sensitive shrugs but either way-that storyline makes Indy look really, really gross (and George Lucas, who doesn't need help looking ick).

PeaceOnEarth

Yes of course, I like the archetypes too.

Maybe that's why Pope Francis said Jesus was the son of Satan. A reference to some ancient idea being paraded in Star Wars. What did James Joyce say? "Satan, really, is the romantic youth of Jesus re-appearing for a moment."

The_Kuru

3 vile pedophiles brain storming a pedophile fantasy. The most interesting quote was the Lucas quote you didn't highlight. He's working out the conflict between "interesting" and "safe" ( although he doesn't use the word "safe", it's his purpose ).

Making the girl 11 or 12 makes the sex very interesting to Lucas but not safe because there would be blowback. It's too safe and not interesting at all if she was 16. 15 is the compromise age that possibly can make the sex interesting to Lucas without much blowback from the public.

BPrime

You people are fucking delusional idiots. inb4 you're a pedophile hur dur

PeaceOnEarth

Never got watching films. Going to the theatre is a bore.

Maeglor

You experience plays or opera at a theatre.

You watch Star Wars at the theater.

Unless you're British, which I doubt.

PeaceOnEarth

Quoi?

Maeglor

Speak English fagboy

PeaceOnEarth

Go back to the woods, you bundle of sticks.

PeaceOnEarth

I never liked Star Wars.

PeaceOnEarth

So glad someone posted this as a discussion, some poor Autist must of posted it like 20 times as a link.

educate_yourself

this would be the same steven spielberg who slept over at the white house??? hehe also with TOM HANKS DEFS A PEDO OH FUCK http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/big-bucks-slept-white-house-lists-guests-article-1.757379

44NJ9

Obviously GL was getting off while he wrote that nastiness.

adam_danischewski

It looks like Lucas is part of the problem -- Star Wars itself is a lore that was spun by cornball sado gay pedophiles. I mean beyond this world, the big machines and their fruit. The robes that the Jedi wear are very similar to bath robes that you would see guys wearing at a gay bathhouse and its not an accident.

lopus

What's wrong with gay bathhouses, if they are visited by grown ups? But the Jedi are rather asexual. "Star Wars" is not a good example for a perv mind of the director. ok, maybe Jabba the hutt looks like Cyril Smith. But I guess Lucas also could make "normal" movies... But the "Indiana Jones" -movies are a bit suspicious. I always was confused about them - about the relationship to the women and also about these archaic rituals or that nazi-shite he was digging out - or that whip. Never really enjoyed these movies.

Cr1xus

Sounds like you have spent some time inside a gay bathhouse?

VieBleu

LOL studied the robes pretty well too.

adam_danischewski

No dickhead, don't choke on a tennis ball.

PeaceOnEarth

Didn't Carrie Fischer refer to herself as an abused child?

Ihatepizza2

Dig and provide info friend!

LostandFound

Well that explains why Mark Hamill has been making lame excuses for not even attempting to have an acting career ever since.

MrFarrr

CARRIE FISHER EXPOSED GEORGE LUCAS BEFORE SHE DIED “I HOPE I SLEPT WITH YOU TO GET THE JOB“ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnWQnL9-CgA

mysecretidentity

George lucas is an over hyped hack. sick piece of shit, blaming the 12 year old. People write about what they know. ..

kestrel9

Pedos often blame the victims; call it the delusional part of the mindset...not unlike when rapists claim, 'she wanted it'; 'she liked it'; 'she came on to me'.

christa

As someone who was a victim of sexual assault at a party, I am all too familiar with "she wanted it". It was part of what lead me to conclude I shouldn't involve the police; who would believe me? I had a couple drinks, and there were no witnesses. Plus, these days, you'll find wealthy white dudes hardly ever do much time, if at all -- even when they admit guilt.

It wasn't too long ago a judge decided a 40-year old man who raped a 12-year old girl should receive ZERO time behind bars . IIRC the child was a relative of his and the judge sympathized after reading a letter from the girl's mother who pleaded for leniency and forgiveness in regards to the rapist's punishment. In my eyes, that is the textbook definition of an unfit mother, but as this subverse has proven, CPS is generally no better. My heart hurts for that child :(

kestrel9

Very sorry to hear not only that you were assaulted but then had no recourse for justice. Regarding the case you mentioned, it turns out it was the girl's father who had raped her at least 3 times. http://archive.is/OBtzV He agreed to plead guilty to one count. "The state had recommended the 40-year-old father of three serve a 100-year prison sentence with 75 years suspended — in effect, 25 years — and the dismissal of two other incest charges as part of a plea deal. “A father repeatedly raped his 12-year-old daughter,” the Valley County deputy attorney, Dylan Jensen, said during the sentencing hearing on Oct. 4, 2016. But in handing down his sentence, Judge John C. McKeon of Valley County District Court noted that lawyers for the defendant could argue for a less-severe punishment if an evaluator recommended treatment in a local community." So the rapist gets the plea deal, two counts are dismissed, THEN the evaluation is recommended by the Judge. When the results came in that claimed the father wasn't a risk to re-offend, the Judge gave him 60 days with time served of 17, so 43 days. How can a minimum 3 time (there's usually more) rapist be considered not a risk of raping either his daughter or someone else's daughter? And regardless if he didn't do it again, there is no justice, he should have served time in prison, not hang out singing kumbaYa at Mr. Sullivan's community center.

"In handing down the sentence on Oct. 4, Judge McKeon cited a report prepared by Michael D. Sullivan, a specialist who had performed more than 2,000 evaluations over a nearly 30-year career. Mr. Sullivan, who performed a psychosexual evaluation of the victim’s father, found that he could “be safely treated and supervised” in a local community and that such treatment was available, the judge wrote in his ruling." So the 'law', i.e. Judge McKeon, was more concerned about the mother and the two sons (who see that their Dad can rape their sister and get away with it), working out "their" good relationship with dad, while the victim has to watch her back and live with nightmares because her rapist was the sympathetic character in the mother's eyes. Sick.

turitelle

Must be a buddy of Roman Polanski, blaming a child for him raping her ... but you know... its art.

They all need to be strung up by their you know what's.

contrarianism

Maybe George thought it wasn't "rape rape".

christa

Todd Akin will tell you it isn't 'legitimate rape'.

abortionburger

I would guess it's part of what appears to be an attempt to sneak normalization of pedophilia into the media. Dusgusting.

nomorepepperoni

Subtle, too. Leave you to think she was 18 and that the dialogue was just filler for drama later.

There may be something to the Spielberg/South Park nonsense even if it was posted by a LARP.

abortionburger

I didn't see that. Link?

nomorepepperoni

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1720498

Video is of some guys reading the back story.

Indiana Jones is ruined for me now. RUINED! And these damn pedos who thought it'd be funny for Indiana to have bonked a girl at 11 are fully to blame.

steve0suprem0

Fuckers gotta ruin everything good.

kestrel9

Exactly. To many ruined movies now, too many actors I don't want to see or hear from again. The industry needs a pedo purge, and take the enablers with them.

contrarianism

The industry is built on pedophilia.

abortionburger

Well that was a weird read. I guess we'll find out if it's a LARP if that episode airs.

Ihatepizza2

was a post here a few minutes ago - now deleted. if you can show how to get to deleted posts id appreciate it.