i am reposting my concerns about marches because mods seem to be uber diligent with deleting subs denouncing the marches while other subs clearly have nothing to do with pizzagate and they remain standing.
in an effort to keep this thought at the forefront, im saying it again:
I want to share my concerns here concisely, and remind all people considering such actions (organizing publicly) to remember Cointelpro tactics which are almost certainly being used to undermine our collective efforts. The decentralization of this investigation thus far has been one of the most valuable aspects. We are across multiple platforms, and awareness about Satanic ritual abuse among other things is rising rapidly. This is all great! However, the "power of the people" is when the people have come to a cultural consensus on an issue, and with pizzagate , I argue, we are near critical mass on this issue in the USA, but not quite there. I think Street events and protests have a purpose, and need to be utilized like a tool. Think like Soros. If the event doesn't achieve media that is on message, than it was a waste of time. If the media attention actually detracts from the narrative, and takes away credibility from the cause, its doubly as bad.
also david shurter is supposedly a speaker at one of the events, some have expressed concerns about this, I dont believe its anybodys right to tell him he cannot speak, when he is a victim, but i second the notion that the press will have a field day with him, he is not exactly the best face for the cause. and or the following reasons this will backfire.
We know the opposition to this issue are masters at subversion of organizations (again remember cointelpro).
Hosting a Street event, assuming it garners any publicity at all, suddenly centralizes the cause around a figureheads like david seaman, titus, or V.L., who are already creating fissures within the investigative community because not everyone trusts their credibility.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO
"COINTELPRO (a portmanteau derived from COunter INTELligence PROgram) was a series of covert, and often illegal,[1][2] projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at surveilling, infiltrating, discrediting and disrupting American political organizations.[3]"
▼ ArthurEdens
Don't go if you think it's bad
▼ nomorepepperoni
Awful lot of long winded concern posts about these protests lately. Be a pity if a lot of people showed up a la Dutroux.
That said, I think protesting at MSM HQs to do their damn jobs makes more sense than protesting in the heart of darkness for said darkness to persecute itself. Not to say those in MSM don't include participants, of course, but the focus now is draining the DC swamp. They can either distance themselves from protecting the DC and political pedos or fall with them. Point is, the media should be all over something like this, not going out of its way to cry about how fake it is.
▼ dougG
Unfortunately we are nowhere near critical mass. I would say 80% or more of the US thinks we are a bunch of lunatics and nutjobs. Just go to any MSM news article about PG and look at the comments. We have a loooooong way to go. Its easy to think differently when everyone in your circle on Voat, reddit. Twitter, 4 chan and Facebook are on our side, its just a drop of water in an ocean of the population.
▼ Silverlining
Ain't that the truth! What we need is a hundred monkeys!
▼ Jem777
Agree marching is a bad idea. Good people will always be peaceful and respectful. These hateful evil characters like Soros & HRC operatives will infiltrate play nice then turn violent on purpose. They train for this and want this
▼ UnicornsAndSparkles
Was the date of the protest decided before FBIAnon claimed April 3rd for arrests?
▼ Silverlining
Do you remember where you saw that and link, please?
▼ UnicornsAndSparkles
Pretty certain it was on here. Have tried searching voat through google with no luck. Will try again later on today.
Edit.. I can't find it :( The closest I can find is a 4chan article claiming it to be an April Fool?! Here is the article anyways. Hopefully someone who sees this has a link to the original article? http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/116754307/i-just-realize-something-about-this-fbi-anon
▼ Silverlining
Two mentions of 3 April on here http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/117139703 http://archive.fo/7qRCO Re laptop stolen
▼ Silverlining
Many thanks Unicorn.
http://victuruslibertas.com/2017/03/as-promised-by-our-dhs-insider-fbi-anon-resurfaces/ No April 3.
From your link and the picture on the LHS at http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1489591262987.jpg Looks like FBIAnon joins the general 4Chan discussion on 03/06/2017 and says:
I'm FBI anon. Here's a H2FSK code to verify [gives code] April third everything is going to be revealed. I recommend never returning to this website after March 15th if you don't want to wind up entering a new era. Bump this as much as possible before it gets snabbed. Identify shills if needed.
And in a related post
Some of you know where this is heading. You know what to do.
And links it to a model village in France - Auroville.
[My interpretation is a roundup of troublemakers (us) and into the FEMA camps]
Maybe someone interested can work out what is going on at 4chan.
▼ UnicornsAndSparkles
Wow. I am in ore of your researching skills. I have been reading and absorbing what I can the last few months. What you guys are doing is awesome. Hoping to help where I can with relevant info remembered from previous threads and my 1am Google and YouTube searching hehe.
▼ Silverlining
Don't let you own life disappear down the rabbit warren!
▼ UnicornsAndSparkles
Yes you're right. So hard to switch off though. Want to help these poor children who are in fear as we speak.
▼ Catchthem
Again another post trying to scare people and to tell them not to attend the marches! I notice a big force trying to talk people out of attending these marches.. They dont want them out in the streets where they maight get attention, rather have all those people contaigned at some forum wich only few people know about. Yes it maight get trolled by paid people.. Staying in a forum will get the word out? I think sometimes need to take some risk. I do hope everyone will be save.
▼ zlomsocz
who is they? you sound paranoid
▼ MostPostersAreShills
Are you going to be there?
▼ Catchthem
I definitely would be, if i would only be a little closer (i am talking few 1000 miles)
▼ bignickwicked
I think determining who our genuine allies (in positions of power) are in seeking justice for Pedogate, and putting (polite) pressure on them to move forward with the investigation is a way better plan. I help to run a conspiracy group on Facebook, and even still, I find myself regularly checking my rearview mirror when driving. I look both ways before leaving my home. You know that these people are everywhere. I am in no way on the level of someone like Roger Stone, who they definitely tried to either hurt, or kill, yesterday, but I ~am~ an outspoken critic of the Clinton Crime Cartel, and the evils these assholes perpetuate.
Anyway, back to the point, I think that the marches are doing nothing but setting yourself up for retaliation. The snipers and FBI surveillance of Occupy Wall Street comes to mind. Those people were putting red flags above their own heads and drawing attention to themselves.
Despite my advocacy of the investigation for Pedogate, I don't need any more paranoia, just or otherwise, or worse.
I've already told those close to me that if I was found dead, it wouldn't be from suicide, just in case.
I really wish arrests would start, though. It's frustrating playing the waiting game. It seems like it's to the point where the buzz about the topic is wearing off, and that's bad. Keeping the conversation going keeps the hope for justice alive.
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▼ abortionburger
"i am reposting my concerns about marches because mods seem to be uber diligent with deleting subs denouncing the marches while other subs clearly have nothing to do with pizzagate and they remain standing."
Dude. We literally have a post warning against the marches stickied right now.
▼ MostPostersAreShills
Ive been thinking its just some set up the whole time. I wouldnt be surprised if the people who showed up found not many other people there. I strongly recommend not marching for your own safety.
▼ Silverlining
Then what is your plan B?
▼ JeremiahSinclair
I basically agree. We stand to achieve very, very little with a public protest at this point, while opening the movement up to a massive opportunity for agitators, provacoteurs, AntiFa, and others to conduct ops to make it look violent/stupid/otherwise discredit us.
I think that if it goes as well as it possibly can, few will ever hear about it. I think it's setting itself up to shoot the movement in the foot with various ways the opposition has of exploiting it for manipulation and mockery.