carmencita

No I don't but I have seen it reported on here and I remember hearing about it on my local news, although cannot remember how many it said. I believe they were not all killed at one time, two I remember the end of last year and I believe it all added up. Now that I am having trouble finding info I will stop writing it and just believing what I read on here. I know there has been an uptick in NY though.

palmitespo910

Yes indeed it is.

Forgetmenot

Wasn't there some voter discrepancies in Brooklyn during the primaries? Everyone was surprised that Clinton won over Bernie? Also wasn't HRC campaigns headquearters in Brooklyn?

dFrog

Anyone else think the mere mention of the Pope, especially alongside the Clinton investigation, is meant to catch the attention of "conspiracy theorists?" The story almost sounds like a GLP or BFIN article. They could have said "the Rothschild family" or "the Trilateral Commission" and it would have struck me the same way, except for the fact that both the Clintons and the Vatican make me think of pedophilia.

MAGANator

Hazard lights? Yes this is MO for a bagman. You don't call attention to yourself if you are about to steal something, you do that to signal your designation as the recipient.

dFrog

Here's a /pol/ anon talking about the way SS computers handle data: https://twitter.com/polNewsNetwork1/status/842935822294966272

Also, I'm a bit confused by this here:

"Surveillance video possibly from the street shows a white man wearing dark clothing exit the back passenger side of what may be a Chevrolet Malibu after pulling up to the secret service agent’s street. The car then pulls up to victim’s house and stops with its hazard lights on. The man then exits from the back passenger side, sources said."

So, two men exited the car, one once the car got onto the street and another when it pulled up to the house? Or did he get off, walk up to the house, "break in" to the Qute, and exit the rear passenger door of the Qute?

Blacksmith21

Random thoughts on this one:

1) There is 1 Bajaj vehicle for sale on CycelTrader.com and it is a moped. These things are rarer than hen's teeth in the US. I wonder if that was the "vehicle picked for the story" as the writer of the story was Indian?

2) This is another chance to document a "fake news" story like the EMW shooting. What did we learn there? The op was likely a cover to destroy the hard drive right under everyone's nose. This may be the same op in reverse. "Hacker stole SS laptop and give contents to Wikileaks" Then no one is culpable. Maybe it contains information related to the alleged "wiretapping".

3) Nothing on Federal laptops may be stored which is above LE SENSITIVE and FOUO. PII may not be stored (but it does happen). SECRET and above is not allowed on laptops with few exceptions, except within the military. That laptop would have, at a minimum, 3 factor authorization via VPN to any classified database. It would also require a remote keygen. And they can be wiped remotely. If protocol's were properly used, that laptop should have become a paperweight within 15 minutes.

4) As mentioned, WaPo and NYT ignored it. To recognize it, would mean if it becomes a leak, they already "legitimized" a story by previously reporting on it. In other words, if the "storyline" didn't fit prior reporting, they have a problem. Well, maybe.

Fingers crossed that JL/Wiki have something really important to say next week. The "theft" of the laptop disconnects the story from Trump.

SayWhatNOWAY

This was to put blame on to someone, when all the leaks start coming out! Pretty obvious! Now, who set this up? That is the million$ question!

NotHereForPizza

That's not really how data storage works today.

Most likely, there's an external HDD, USB, or other physical mobile storage device they were using to house such sensitive information. Believe me when I say this, this odd theory you have about a laptop may have worked in the 90s or something, but not today.

I've grown fond of the theory that this was suppose to serve as a sort of message. Apparently Clinton's team is rather partial to cryptic references and metaphors. I think we're all quite familiar with that. Not to mention the "what goes around comets around" thing, which still seems very straightforward to me.

Anyway, I'm suggesting they're maybe making a threat or something crazy. Maybe it was something like:

Proceed in the Clinton investigation and we'll use our knowledge of the floor plans at Trump tower to send in some SJW bomber and blow up the building.

However, when you were talking about the dead drop thing, you made me think this may be some form of leak from the Trump admin saying something about the floor plans to make people talk about it a lot. I was thinking it would be cool if that "laptop" had something pretty incriminating that those participating in the investigation would find helpful.

Either way, I agree with others here saying that us knowing about it doesn't at all mean that it was accidental or in any way uncoordinated. Frankly, I'm pretty confident this had something to do with a warning message, another leak from some entity in peril, or maybe even some false flag.

carmencita

This whole mess reeks to High Heaven. There is something really fishy with many facts in the story. Full of BS.

VFoster93

As somebody who's worked in field where mandatory confidentiality is required and no carelessness is tolerated, it's hard to believe this happened. Btw, females shouldn't be allowed in Secret Service. 85% lack requisite responsibility, stamina & IQ.

Nana66

The way they decided to let the world know the laptop has info on Trump tower on it points to a false flag attack on Trump tower. Also there have now been a few stories pointing at SS as being less than professional and downright negligent to blame. There is NO REASON a SS agent would have sensitive information on Clinton's or the Pope on a laptop so I believe that info was planted simply for speculation purposes. That day around the same time it was trending with several bot type accounts that the Empire state Building was evacuated due to a small fire but there was no actual proof of a fire....I think this is a threat to Trump that they can hurt him by taking out his wife and son in Trump tower.

AngB23

I saw that too. I just don't know who to trust media or Intel wise if that's true. Or maybe just hoping eventually we will find out what was on Weiners laptop

AngB23

Has it been confirmed that laptop has Clinton info? Could it be Weiner's info? The file called "Life Insurance"?

aaallaboard

excellent points, nice work

awakenaware

im leaning towards Trump game.. i sure hope so.. considering Huffington etc are not covering it and a few other clues hint at possible "trump" card been carefully played?

ArthurEdens

If it wasn't planned, the secret service officer is beyond negligent leaving sensitive material on the seat of the car. I'm calling it a car. This is who is protecting our president and fam? What a joke

Rangers_justice

20 year Clinton FBI plant Andrew McCabe is handling the investigation. Why wouldn't Clinton just ask him how the investigation is going?

educate_yourself

how much for that bridge yo im in the market edit: srsly tho good work m8 ur spot on from the sounds of it

OrangeAndWhite

Spot on with this post.

Empire_of_the_mind

I think you're on the right track. The SS was involved in several big time scandals during the Obama Administration and they eventually chased out the affirmative-action appointment head of the Secret Service for incompetence. There are definitely elements left by the Obama Admin in the SS that would be hostile to Trump - this is why he partly uses private security. This story is not something that would normally be publicized - that is intentional. I believe this is Trump admin trying to expose SS corruption and humiliate them. They included the information about what was ON the laptop (NEVER would they admit this!!) in order to first bait the media into reporting (the Trump Tower detail) and B: remind everyone about Weiner's emails.

new4now

could this be a Trump set up? This news is everywhere, All bought and paid for news outlets have printed the story. There are slight differences in some of the stories.

CNN says..The officials said the laptop, which was highly encrypted and contained floor plans and evacuation protocol for Trump Tower, cannot be traced or erased by officials remotely, leaving the information at risk of being discovered.

ABC says...."Secret Service-issued laptops contain multiple layers of security including full disk encryption and are not permitted to contain classified information," the statement continued. The computer is encrypted and authorities are able to wipe the hard drive remotely if needed.

New York Post has agents name, what she drove, all kinds of info

I thought the story stunk from the beginning, and why does the bought news outlets have different stories? Does the laptop have secret stuff on it or not? Why is the secret service agent's name is this story and not the story of taking a picture? Do they ever give names out on secret service agents? Was a laptop even stolen? Maybe my tin foil hat getting tighter with all the stuff I've been reading, but I just don't trust news story anymore, I always check around.

Could Trump be behind this? just a thought

remedy4reality

VERY interestingly, CIA rags the Washington Post and the Huffington Post have NO MENTION of the story.

What do we make of that omission ?

dFrog

I might guess that if it was an establishment/Deep State op, heads of WaPo and NYT would have already known about it. I could see them hearing about it and thinking, "We weren't briefed on this, so hands off," especially if Deep State intel thinks it's some kind of trap or other move.

Empire_of_the_mind

It is definitely an op by someone - good eye on the details varying in different media outlets.

Kiwi_Slave

Not to wander too far off topic, but just for the weirdness - Argentieri loosely translates as Silversmith, not dissimilar to Silverstein, a famous name in NYC.

Kiwi_Slave

"Marie Argentieri is 88 years old", either a name picked out of the phone book or the SS woman could have been named after her father's mother, not a rare event. I do think something happened (was staged) at the house in Brooklyn whether it was the actual home of an actual SS agent or not. I am a bit of a car buff and drive a 810 kg car not legal in the US. So I was shocked that Americans can buy the Bajaj Qute. The Qute is not even legal for personal use in India, only allowed as a commercial vehicle. The inclusion of the Bajaj in the story added a surreal element which drew me in.

PS: New Zealand has allowed mail deliveries from Paxsters - what amounts to a skinny golf cart: https://www.nzpost.co.nz/about-us/media-centre/media-release/first-of-500-electric-parcel-delivery-vehicles-arrive-in-nz But even here a Bajaj Qute would be beyond the pale

OutlawStriding

The posties are right, these do look like oversized fisher price toys...

Kiwi_Slave

You are welcome. While the only link to pedogate is the mention of Clinton emails, the media circus is fascinating. All major media is fake news. As with (tinfoil warning) other notorious events (ahem, Oklahoma City), the early reports from local media are usually the best. NY Post told us the vehicle in question was a Bajaj. CBS local made it clear that the pick up courier was driven there taxi style - sitting in the back seat.

ansipizza

It could also be for plausible deniability as to who or what was the source for information that is leaked or exploited in the future. Kind of like the Mexcian version of the Zimmerman Telegram .

pizzaequalspedo

None of the MSM reported story adds up. A SS agent would not have Clinton investigation info on it, that's not in their scope of work.

I'm really hoping this was a way of publicly setting up a leak story by the good guys.

Harpua33

I know I saw ABC update their story saying there were no clinton stuff on it. Why do that?

Aloha808

Why would Hillarys email investigation be on that computer? Let's hope so!!

Mrs_Ogynist01

That was my first thought!

TuringTest

Your submission /v/pizzagate/1730445 has been deleted by: @Vindicator on 3/19/2017 7:15:09 AM

Reason given: @TuringTest : Rule 3

Original Submission

"We were shipping babies"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQC5cFDbREcYouTube

Kiwi_Slave

Good question! One can understand why NYC based SS agents would need to have the floor plans of Trump Tower on hand, that is not suspicious at all. But as the SS is mainly a glorified bodyguard detail and not a general investigative agency, there is no good reason for the Clinton investigation information to be on an SS laptop. Someone gave it to Argentieri to be leaked.

EndThePizza

Also, the video just happens to show all the events except for the actual moment of breaking into the car? Are you sure it doesn't need some kind of key or electronic remote to open the doors? Because somebody sure wouldn't want to show the part of the footage where the "thief" pulls out a key to the car. Or there may have been something else that happened during that time that they didn't want recorded. Many possibilities, but it's suspicious that there's a select part of the crime that wasn't on tape.

Kiwi_Slave

A Bajaj Qute is not a car, it is a 4 wheel motorcycle. There are no door locks

EndThePizza

Ok, semantics. But lots of vehicles now have electronic sensor keys, so a lack of a physical door lock doesn't mean there isn't a door lock. Where are you getting that info?

Kiwi_Slave

Look at the Qute on the Bajaj website. This is a 450 kg product. It doesn't have any windows, just flexible clear plastic sheets you can roll down - like the windows on tents. You don't even need to open a door, just peel up the window sheeting and stick your arm in.

crazimal

Theater it seems. It's a threat, concerning how easily laptops and their data can be moved.

Kiwi_Slave

Yes, but is it a threat from Hillary's camp to Trump or the opposite?

carmencita

I have commented on here that I hope it was passed to Wikileaks. I am keeping my fingers crossed. I am hoping that NYPD has arranged this because they are just plain sick of Comey not doing his job and giving them a bad name. They are also angry that 5 cops were killed because they threatened to release the vile info themselves a few weeks before. God I hope they did it.

rivercontrol

*Rubs hands together

Kiwi_Slave

I hope that good guys did it, but the NYPD would have no reason to involve the SS as an intermediary. I see no reason to believe that the NYPD were involved with the dead drop. If Argentieri is a Trump loyalist acting under instructions (from Bannon? Ivanka? DJT himself?), the dead drop was driven by the Trump team, not the NYPD.

karenrussell63

as a way for the NYPD to claim the leak didn't come from them.

LightSource

Don't most new laptops have the ability to be remotely tracked? Especially these peoples..it has to be..how could it not?

mysecretidentity

I imagine they use full disk encryption with strong passwords

lump

Ahahahahaha

palmitespo910

P@5SW0RD

EndThePizza

If that's the case, then either the thief is smart enough to have disabled it (probable, if they were smart enough to plan the heist in the first place) OR the people who let it be taken don't want it to be found.

Kiwi_Slave

In the case of a laptop with sensitive material on it, I would think the priority would be in keeping the device secure. Not an expert, but I would imagine that disabling wireless connectivity would be an obvious security measure, so no GPS signal uploaded to cellular networks? In any case all the thief/courier has to do is put the laptop in a metal case and all tracking would be shut off.