Your paradigm is so rife with assumptions and fixed ideas that I think it's safe to assume that you're either trolling or truly don't get it. I don't have the time or energy to tackle that train of logic either way. See you next time you make one of these accounts.
"I think you guys are hypocritical because you don't lump Trump in with other high-profile pedos based on X, Y, and Z, therefore, pizzagate is built on lies."
Assuming that you're even being honest, what you've written here is beyond the realm of cognitive bias and is more along the lines of straight-up leaps of logic.
I never said that you guys are being hypocritical therefore pizzagate is built on lies. You're building a strawman around my statement.
If you want examples of the lies that pizzagate was built upon, few examples:
-Lying about the code words made up on 4chan by replacing words in Podesta's e-mails like walnut with person of color, pasta with little boy, map with semen etc.
-Assuming that Podesta was using a handkerchief code mostly used by gay men during the late 1970's, taking that assumption as fact and then lying about the color white being a code for underage sex and photoshoping it to make it look so.
-Lying about a picture about L'enfant cafe bar that was named after Pierre Charles L’Enfant by claiming that the dude in the picture has a shirt saying "I love children" in french.
I never thought much of the code words at all. Weird, sure, but probably this, probably that? Eh. I encouraged people to keep that in the pile of supplemental/circumstantial stuff rather than front and center.
But nothing about Podesta, JA, or CPP has any bearing on all of the child sex trafficking among the elite that has been discovered all over the world time and time again, which is what this is really about. When we've got massive busts going on and all this info relating to other pedo cases, someone coming on here and trying to say it's bullshit can't even be taken seriously. That's why I basically skimmed your post.
.But nothing about Podesta, JA, or CPP has any bearing on all of the child sex trafficking among the elite that has been discovered all over the world time and time again
Yes you're right. The pizzagate conspriacy about the ritual child rape and sacrifice ring made up on reddit and 4chan is fictitious and it signals a total detachment from fact and reason. That's where I'm pointing at. I'm not claiming that the aren't any elites that are pedophiles.
When we've got massive busts going on
Sex trafficking busts have happened all the time. That has absolutely nothing to do with the pizzagate conspiracy theory.
"someone coming on here and trying to say it's bullshit"
Why are you so insistent on defining the word "pizzagate" a certain way in the first place? Don't you recognize that it doesn't matter? The point is: Elite pedophilia, child sex trafficking, and law enforcement cover-up/enabling/complicity. We've got busts and tons of info and leads relating to that sort of thing, whether it includes Podesta/JA/CPP or not.
If your whole bit is predicated on semantic technicalities, it's meaningless.
"The more people that say it is a conspiracy theory, the more likely I am to believe there is an element of truth to it."
That absolutely doesn't matter. I don't know why this is such a common answer. Do you think that you being less or more convinced has any relevance to the truth of the pizzagate conspiracy theory? You can be as convinced as you possibly can be, pizzagate will still remain a fictitious conspiracy theory.
That absolutely does matter, for the reasons I provided beneath. Also, learn to format, use '>' to quote another user.
It is a common answer, again, for the reasons I provided. Many have experienced the same throughout their life.
We are told we're wrong for months, years, decades, then something gets leaked or declassified.
We say:
"LOOK FUCKING TOLD YOU!"
To which the normie answer is:
"Oh who cares that was so long ago, there is no way they still do that kind of stuff". Which is just retarded, of course they do, they have been getting better at it and hiding it.
Do you think that you being less or more convinced has any relevance to the truth of the pizzagate conspiracy theory?
No, did I ever say my personal views had any impact on the truth of the theory?
You can be as convinced as you possibly can be, pizzagate will still remain a fictitious conspiracy theory.
No, did I ever say my personal views had any impact on the truth of the theory?
No you didn't said you said that, I just asked you if you believe that, or more so implying the fact that thy do not, as a response to your reply:
The more people that say it is a conspiracy theory, the more likely I am to believe there is an element of truth to it.
The fact that
History has proven me right many more times than I've been wrong.
doesn't make you being more convinced of pizzagate being true matter. What I'm trying to point out here is that pizzagate will remain as it is, no matter if people believe that it's true or not.
Look at the classified FBI doc showing the pedo symbols and then look at VoodooDoughnuts, James Alefantis' friends (sasha lord videos, ses stains ...). ...all of them are into pedo/occult symbolism. makaing coffins for children. there is no real evidence but they're all using the same symbolism / art and all have very disturbing relationships to kids. everybody who is into it should be stopped, no matter if its trump or podesta, clinton, or tres shannon! ...everybody who is raping/killing children has to go to jail!
"Look at the classified FBI doc showing the pedo symbols and then look at VoodooDoughnuts"
Voodoo Doughnut has a doughet model that has a spiral made out of cream or some shit on it. The association with the boy lover logo is made out of pure confirmation bias. On actively looking and establishing any pedophile association.
...and what about tres shannon, the guy of voodoodoughnuts? ...he is a fuckin weirdo, also coffins at his doughnut place. are u retarded not to see whats going on? lol you may should check out the twitter accounts of the "werkinonmynightcheese" guy and dig a little deeper. you have absolutely no idea what u are talking about. ...also why would anyone describing a baby as "hotard"? ...buh there are so fucking many fucked up "coincidences". ...if u dont get it its your problem.
joewills:@jimmycomet You are quickly becoming my favorite hash-tagger #hotard
jimmycomet:#hotard
jimmycomet:@joewills
Now after reading that and having a functional brain you can clearly see that Alefantis didn't described a baby as hotard, but that he responded to that joewills dude.
Also, hotard is a pretty common instagram hashtag:
Using this type of arguments for accusing someone of raping and murdering babies is insane.
"buh there are so fucking many fucked up "coincidences""
All those "coincidences" are based on lies, speculation and confirmation bias, with nothing linking them but the suspicion of the conspiracy theory itself. I recommend reading this article published in 2010 by the Scientific American. Especially those 10 points that fit pizzagate as a glove. Pizzagate is a textbook fictitious conspiracy theory.
Do you agree that "if tomorrow it was revealed that Podesta walked into some dressing room while girls some as young as 15 were changing to look at them and even bragged about it(like Trump did with the beauty pageant) pizzagaters would completely loose their shit"?
Do you agree that the same standard of evidence used for Podesta, Alefantis or politicians close to HC is not used for Trump?
3 sources was anonymous, two were not. Miss Teen Vermont was on the record in the original article and after publication, Miss Teen New Mexico went on the record.
This is a quote from Trump himself about his behavior at an adult pageant.
On an April 11, 2005, Howard Stern show, Donald Trump bragged about some of the special perks he enjoyed while owner of the Miss USA pageant. They came not in a locker room but a dressing room.
‘‘I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed and ready and everything else,’’ he said. ‘‘And you know, no men are anywhere. And I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant. And therefore I’m inspecting it.’’
Why is that when it comes to Alefantis, Podesta HC or the politicians close to her you people blindly accept easily debunkable lies, but when it comes to Trump there's this unwillingness to accept facts?
"I don't accept anonymous sources."
It's funny you say that cause pizzagate was based on things like anonymous sources.
▼ dFrog
Your paradigm is so rife with assumptions and fixed ideas that I think it's safe to assume that you're either trolling or truly don't get it. I don't have the time or energy to tackle that train of logic either way. See you next time you make one of these accounts.
▼ dFrog
That doesn't make any sense.
▼ dFrog
"I think you guys are hypocritical because you don't lump Trump in with other high-profile pedos based on X, Y, and Z, therefore, pizzagate is built on lies."
Assuming that you're even being honest, what you've written here is beyond the realm of cognitive bias and is more along the lines of straight-up leaps of logic.
▼ PG_IsDumbAsFuck4
I never said that you guys are being hypocritical therefore pizzagate is built on lies. You're building a strawman around my statement.
If you want examples of the lies that pizzagate was built upon, few examples:
-Lying about the code words made up on 4chan by replacing words in Podesta's e-mails like walnut with person of color, pasta with little boy, map with semen etc.
https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/2016/12/07/pizzagate/daaa6b3b2a4ae2f0d1d1a18456d77ed4436b8ca0/images/4chan-terms.png
by claiming they were discovered by law authorities and that are known pedophile code words.
http://i.imgur.com/hCHk5g0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eazSIsO.jpg
-Assuming that Podesta was using a handkerchief code mostly used by gay men during the late 1970's, taking that assumption as fact and then lying about the color white being a code for underage sex and photoshoping it to make it look so.
http://i.imgur.com/lsJgN8X.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BUl1Hza.jpg
-Lying about Podesta having occult symbolism on his hands.
http://i.imgur.com/LIK2rvh.png
-Lying about a picture about L'enfant cafe bar that was named after Pierre Charles L’Enfant by claiming that the dude in the picture has a shirt saying "I love children" in french.
http://i.imgur.com/Ly9xEhb.jpg
https://www.facebook.com/LEnfant-Cafe-Bar-84640147699/
Lying about Alefantis calling a baby a hotard:
http://i.imgur.com/2JC6HuQ.jpg
When in fact you can clearly see from the picture that he responded to the previous comment. Also hotard is a pretty common instagram hashtag:
https://www.instagram.com/p/RoqHHdKTZ6/ https://www.instagram.com/p/BGGHU72HIEG/ https://www.instagram.com/p/2CvAlyN5U8/ https://www.instagram.com/p/BNprFS2hpzM/ https://www.instagram.com/p/BJ6KJYmh-g3/ https://www.instagram.com/p/BN9x9r2BOBH/ etc.
Every pizzagate argument is based on flawed reasoning.
▼ dFrog
I never thought much of the code words at all. Weird, sure, but probably this, probably that? Eh. I encouraged people to keep that in the pile of supplemental/circumstantial stuff rather than front and center.
But nothing about Podesta, JA, or CPP has any bearing on all of the child sex trafficking among the elite that has been discovered all over the world time and time again, which is what this is really about. When we've got massive busts going on and all this info relating to other pedo cases, someone coming on here and trying to say it's bullshit can't even be taken seriously. That's why I basically skimmed your post.
▼ PG_IsDumbAsFuck4
.But nothing about Podesta, JA, or CPP has any bearing on all of the child sex trafficking among the elite that has been discovered all over the world time and time again
Yes you're right. The pizzagate conspriacy about the ritual child rape and sacrifice ring made up on reddit and 4chan is fictitious and it signals a total detachment from fact and reason. That's where I'm pointing at. I'm not claiming that the aren't any elites that are pedophiles.
Sex trafficking busts have happened all the time. That has absolutely nothing to do with the pizzagate conspiracy theory.
"someone coming on here and trying to say it's bullshit"
Yes, pizzagate is bullshit.
▼ dFrog
Why are you so insistent on defining the word "pizzagate" a certain way in the first place? Don't you recognize that it doesn't matter? The point is: Elite pedophilia, child sex trafficking, and law enforcement cover-up/enabling/complicity. We've got busts and tons of info and leads relating to that sort of thing, whether it includes Podesta/JA/CPP or not.
If your whole bit is predicated on semantic technicalities, it's meaningless.
▼ Goater
The more people that say it is a conspiracy theory, the more likely I am to believe there is an element of truth to it.
History has proven me right many more times than I've been wrong.
All the shit in the 60's, 70's. Was coined a tin-foil hatter.
Now that shits declassified whose laughing now. Not me, I never was, but still.
▼ PG_IzDumbAsFuck3
"The more people that say it is a conspiracy theory, the more likely I am to believe there is an element of truth to it."
That absolutely doesn't matter. I don't know why this is such a common answer. Do you think that you being less or more convinced has any relevance to the truth of the pizzagate conspiracy theory? You can be as convinced as you possibly can be, pizzagate will still remain a fictitious conspiracy theory.
▼ Goater
That absolutely does matter, for the reasons I provided beneath. Also, learn to format, use '>' to quote another user.
It is a common answer, again, for the reasons I provided. Many have experienced the same throughout their life.
We are told we're wrong for months, years, decades, then something gets leaked or declassified.
We say:
"LOOK FUCKING TOLD YOU!"
To which the normie answer is:
"Oh who cares that was so long ago, there is no way they still do that kind of stuff". Which is just retarded, of course they do, they have been getting better at it and hiding it.
No, did I ever say my personal views had any impact on the truth of the theory?
Strawman, see above.
▼ PG_IsDumbAsFuck4
No you didn't said you said that, I just asked you if you believe that, or more so implying the fact that thy do not, as a response to your reply:
The fact that
doesn't make you being more convinced of pizzagate being true matter. What I'm trying to point out here is that pizzagate will remain as it is, no matter if people believe that it's true or not.
▼ blablah
Look at the classified FBI doc showing the pedo symbols and then look at VoodooDoughnuts, James Alefantis' friends (sasha lord videos, ses stains ...). ...all of them are into pedo/occult symbolism. makaing coffins for children. there is no real evidence but they're all using the same symbolism / art and all have very disturbing relationships to kids. everybody who is into it should be stopped, no matter if its trump or podesta, clinton, or tres shannon! ...everybody who is raping/killing children has to go to jail!
▼ PG_IzDumbAsFuck3
"Look at the classified FBI doc showing the pedo symbols and then look at VoodooDoughnuts"
Voodoo Doughnut has a doughet model that has a spiral made out of cream or some shit on it. The association with the boy lover logo is made out of pure confirmation bias. On actively looking and establishing any pedophile association.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f1/c3/be/f1c3be9eb8db0f512a0ff90bc15d43e3.jpg
"James Alefantis' friends"
What about them?
"sasha lord videos"
What about Sasha Lord videos? How is Sasha Lord videos in any way evidence of a crime?
"se stains"
What about sex stains?
"all of them are into pedo/occult symbolism"
No they're absolutely not. That's the insane conspiracy theorist mind at work.
"makaing coffins for children"
Their not coffins, they're tables. Inability to spot out lies or half truths at work.
http://i.imgur.com/29sbU77.jpg
"there is no real evidence"
You are correct. Accusing someone of raping and murdering children based on evidence manufactured completely out of thin air is insane.
▼ blablah
...and what about tres shannon, the guy of voodoodoughnuts? ...he is a fuckin weirdo, also coffins at his doughnut place. are u retarded not to see whats going on? lol you may should check out the twitter accounts of the "werkinonmynightcheese" guy and dig a little deeper. you have absolutely no idea what u are talking about. ...also why would anyone describing a baby as "hotard"? ...buh there are so fucking many fucked up "coincidences". ...if u dont get it its your problem.
▼ PG_IzDumbAsFuck3
"lol you may should check out the twitter accounts of the "werkinonmynightcheese" guy and dig a little deeper"
What you consider as evidence of a crime coming from that twitter account?
"also why would anyone describing a baby as "hotard"?"
One of the things that boggled my mind about this pizzagate thing is the complete detachment of fact and reason showed by the pizzagate believers.
You only need to take a look at that picture to realize that that's not true.
http://i.imgur.com/2JC6HuQ.jpg
Quote:
joewills:@jimmycomet You are quickly becoming my favorite hash-tagger #hotard jimmycomet:#hotard jimmycomet:@joewills
Now after reading that and having a functional brain you can clearly see that Alefantis didn't described a baby as hotard, but that he responded to that joewills dude.
Also, hotard is a pretty common instagram hashtag:
https://www.instagram.com/p/RoqHHdKTZ6/ https://www.instagram.com/p/BGGHU72HIEG/ https://www.instagram.com/p/2CvAlyN5U8/ https://www.instagram.com/p/BNprFS2hpzM/ https://www.instagram.com/p/BJ6KJYmh-g3/ https://www.instagram.com/p/BN9x9r2BOBH/ etc.
Using this type of arguments for accusing someone of raping and murdering babies is insane.
"buh there are so fucking many fucked up "coincidences""
All those "coincidences" are based on lies, speculation and confirmation bias, with nothing linking them but the suspicion of the conspiracy theory itself. I recommend reading this article published in 2010 by the Scientific American. Especially those 10 points that fit pizzagate as a glove. Pizzagate is a textbook fictitious conspiracy theory.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-conspiracy-theory-director/
▼ DarkMath
Listen up you dumb fuck, Pizzagate isn't Comet Ping Pong and James Alefantis.
Your refusing to acknowledge that means you're a pathetic panty waste who probably lives in your mother's basement and fucks the family cat.
Just sayin'. You're a coward and a piece of shit too.
▼ MyNameIsLuka
Oh, hey! How was your day at the pizza shop?
▼ DarkMath
"multiple rape allegations"
Don't you think the Democrats would have used those already PG_IS_A_COWARD?
Bee tee dubs what's it like being a coward AND not ever having sex with carbon based life forms?
▼ WhoIsThePsyOp
The Flynns are controlled opposition . They hang with the alt-right disinfo shill crew and intentionally make problems for Trump.
Trump has pedos to bust and the Flynns have marching orders to turn pizzagate into Russian bot "fake news".
▼ PG_IzDumbAsFuck3
Do you agree that "if tomorrow it was revealed that Podesta walked into some dressing room while girls some as young as 15 were changing to look at them and even bragged about it(like Trump did with the beauty pageant) pizzagaters would completely loose their shit"?
Do you agree that the same standard of evidence used for Podesta, Alefantis or politicians close to HC is not used for Trump?
▼ WhoIsThePsyOp
The dressing room allegation initiated from a Buzzfeed report, correct? Citing anonymous sources?
As you can see from @armyseer post history, I don't accept anonymous sources. Period.
▼ AreWeSure
3 sources was anonymous, two were not. Miss Teen Vermont was on the record in the original article and after publication, Miss Teen New Mexico went on the record.
This is a quote from Trump himself about his behavior at an adult pageant.
▼ PG_IsDumbAsFuck4
A strange rare occasion when I'm in perfect agreement with a pizzagater.
▼ PG_IzDumbAsFuck3
https://youtu.be/xIvFHFboWEU?t=7s
Why is that when it comes to Alefantis, Podesta HC or the politicians close to her you people blindly accept easily debunkable lies, but when it comes to Trump there's this unwillingness to accept facts?
"I don't accept anonymous sources."
It's funny you say that cause pizzagate was based on things like anonymous sources.