Jem777

Butterflies are an important part of all of this. Research why the CIA named it's program Project Monarch. Also who has paid the most attention to the Monarch Butterfly survival. What and where are the migration patterns? What about the butterfly story has meaning or themes similar to the issues of rebirth

neverobey

I don't feel like there is any need to discuss a dead person. I just wanted to rise awarness to who ever will buy it.

equineluvr

Yes, let's NEVER discuss criminals, mass murderers, rapists, pedos, or serial killers who are dead now.

If everyone followed your "rule," nobody would discuss any historical figures.

TRUTH IS TRUTH. What they did while alive is what they did. Period.

neverobey

Off course. And when you find the time to don't put it on me and just open your own thread …, that would be a positive thing to do.

featheredmasks

Neverland/Sycamore Valley is a beautiful vineyard so I don't blame you.

featheredmasks

WHY. Michael was not a pedo. The evidence or lack thereof (part of which was illegally manufacured in front of the jury as evidenced by a jury member saying, "shouldn't he be wearing gloves for that?" since they were referencing someone having fingerprints on a dirty mag) in both accusations show more than enough he wasn't a pedo.

brokencookie

OMG that site is disgusting. As a mom of young boys, I'm freaked about letting them out of my sight. Ever.

neverobey

I know how you feel. But turning into a watchdog will effect our children as well. I know, the damage is not nearly comparable but I am so deeply dedicated to child rights, that I couldn't hurt my childrens privacy. Best thing we can do – as parents – is to keep talking about risks, always remember them, that we would never send someone to pick them up, for example, without letting them know. We have to make sure that they always remember, not to go with anyone anywhere. And we can teach them to be self confident and control their body language. Take a look at this article http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/dr-raj-persaud/dont-walk-this-way-how-yo_b_6509478.html

thisHoCwilltumble

Michael Jackson innocent. Media fucked him like they want to fuck Trump.

neverobey

So, if you are one of us , go buy it! ;)

l23r

Check out the butterflies in the plant art.

featheredmasks

There's nothing wrong with butterflies. You say Butterfly World in FL is now just a huge pedo place? Butterflies are natural innocent creatures.

neverobey

What about MK ultra, Project Monarch?

l23r

There isn't anything wrong with butterflies in and of themselves, just like there isn't anything wrong with pizza. It's the context. The Neverland Ranch is kinda well known for, well, being a pedo place.

featheredmasks

A conspiracy which has been debunked not only in court but by the evidence itself evaluated by the public (not just the judge/jury).

Just because the public eye declares something a pedo place doesn't mean it is.

l23r

Just because someone is declared innocent by a court does not mean they are actually innocent. Or are you one of those people who thinks that OJ didn't do nuttin?

I'm personally not sure whether MJ actually touched a kid, but he still had inappropriate contact with kids. I've never slept in the same bed as my brother when he was a kid cause even though my mom isn't a millionaire there was always enough space for each of us to have our own sleeping space. This guy was sleeping in the same bed with kids he had zero relation to on a huge ranch. Not cool.

featheredmasks

I don't give a fuck about the jury or OJ. I'm talking about how this is shit I've researched since 2005.

The kids didn't always sleep in his bed, and they were only a handful that were his closest friends. Yes, it's weird he had kid friends, but that doesn't mean pedophilia.

What does tell me he is innocent is that Jordan Chandler couldn't even identify markings on his penis or that he was uncircumcised (confirmed by autopsy), and if you think there's any meat to the Arvizo case you're already a lost cause.

l23r

I've seen penises that were both cut and uncut. Once an uncut dick is hard, it looks like any other dick.

I've never read the transscripts from the court case, and honestly I don't really care to. Eyewitness testimony is crap under the best of circumstances. Get someone who is traumatized, or talking about something that happned a long time ago, and then add the fact that they're a KID?

featheredmasks

Then don't ever call another person who doesn't investigate pizzagate ignorant etc again if you aren't willing to do the research.

l23r

I would rather not read transcripts of young people talking about sexual shit adults are doing to them. So yeah. If that makes me willfully "ignorant" so be it... Quite a few people here also didn't watch the Fatherhood video. It doesn't make their opinions any less valid, or mine more so, just because I watched and heard it.

Evarett

for the land? the architecture? the rides are all gone i think.

neverobey

I've got no idea. It's their dream …

UnicornsAndSparkles

Why do the peados want it then?

Evarett

I'm wondering why quaid wants it.

iamthepizzanow

Grasping at straws IMO