Were the Podesta's Really in Portugal during the Madeleine McCann abduction? ( pizzagate )

submitted by burningcities

I've heard this claim made several times, in well-sourced exposes on PG, but have yet to find a source on this (other than that the Podesta emails begin the day after the abduction.) Would like a source on this so I know it's credible, especially since this is typically where I start when redpilling others. Also, if there's a source regarding their staying with Clement Freud, that would be fantastic.

HopeLiesInTheProles

Could be legit, but I've seen no evidence and it strikes me as a red herring. Wouldn't they have henchmen to do the actual kidnapping?

In terms of red-pilling, this is my new approach:

  1. Alefantis "chickenlover" pic ("I see no chickens, what do YOU think he meant?")

  2. Do you know who Moloch is?

*Cheryl Mills email "I will be sacrificing a chicken in the backyard to Moloch"

Give up? (I didn't know who it was either). Moloch is the ancient pagan god of CHILD SACRIFICE.

Psalm100

This is one thread where I believe this question was discussed:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1583429

Psalm100

From the looks of it, I think you might have meant your reply for rwb instead of me. See rwb's post here.

rooting4redpillers

Yep, thanks and sorry about that. I saw that the second after posting, already deleted it and replied to rwb.

DarkMath

No but that doesn't mean they weren't involved:

https://youtu.be/SVXb75LLYmA

pby1000

Nothing verified, as far as I know...

Psalm100

I think so far it hasn't been proven.

If I'm not mistaken, there has been a claim by an anonymous source that the Podestas were staying with a friend named "Clem" in Portugal at the time.

There is also a thread I recall that discusses that John Podesta was at an event at the Center for American Progress the day before, and was back in Washington, I believe testifying before Congress, perhaps a week or two later. That's all the information I'm aware of.

numbat

I think they were staying at Clement Freuds not with him. He was ruled out as being in UK at the time.

keepthefaith

No they were not. Zero evidence.

ArthurEdens

Yep, and then Freud invited the McCanns to meet him at his place for lunch and they went.

rwb

In spite of some claims, to my knowledge, none are verified. Curiously, there was a VOAT member who claimed to have visited the village to gather information (unsuccessfully as I recall) but I did not bookmark the thread. You might want to dig around to perhaps find the poster and PM for more information. There was less elaboration on the visit than one might of liked. It's worth noting that the person could have been fabricating. Unfortunately, it's getting harder to trust any online source these days.

rooting4redpillers

This might be the submission you recall:

[Archived] In Praia da Luz. Suggestions? (pizzagate) | submitted 3 months ago by Don-Keyhote

Edit: @Don-Keyhote

rwb

yes, that's the one. And I remain just as baffled that this particular thread received virtually no attention. Insignificant threads with weak content can gather hundreds of views and scores of comments in no time, and here's someone visiting the very spot where she disappeared, posts about the experience, and no one could muster a question or two? I was not a VOAT member at the time. The one downside with the VOAT system is that threads are not resurrected like in more conventional forums, where old threads move back to the top of the page when new posts are added, meaning once their life cycle is complete, it stays complete, which is regrettable at times.

rooting4redpillers

Same here, I've seen exactly what you've described, and not that I'll say it happens a whole lot, it's noticeable and yes, baffling. Other things, threads that enthusiastically promise to collect all info on a specific topic and categorize and track it it for future reference, getting a ton of interest at the moment, then I never see them again and nobody seems to care. The high number of repeats of glaring and exhausted "finds" are noticeable too, especially when longtime members do it and searching is so easy. I'm not suggesting these things indicate or "prove" some negative intent on anyone's part, but I might have found these kinds of things to be discouraging enough to give this all up, if I wasn't already so hooked.