Deret_Sigernu

Never trust Jewsweek. Ever.

HarveyKlinger

The big problem with VOAT is the constant posting of non-Pizzagate stuff to the Pizzagate forum. I'm seeing political posts as well as posts about individual people not related. Hell, someone went on a rampage posting articles about Disney World and Walt Disney last week. SO many people posting here have no clue what Pizzagate actually is but they think they do. They seem to think that every article about kiddie pron and child endangerment is pizzagate. It isn't. I'd hate being a mod here because 1/2 the stuff needs to be deleted out of this sub but there's just so much shit posting (and that's not including the obvious shills that come here to mock us) that it's impossible to stay on top of it. And because there's so much garbage in this sub, many of the researchers that were here in the beginning have stopped coming here. To be quite frank, this place was a treasure trove of great information until Pizzagate gained traction and everybody started coming here.

HarveyKlinger

I don't disagree that the more people know the better. But a bad spokesperson can destroy a good cause. It happens all the time.

DeathToMasons

Seaman is one of them, and so is Alex Jones. They usually refer to the ones that are gatekkeepers and controled opposition. Now Seman can claim this is proof that he is the king of pizzagate. The BullSHIT never ends.

SoSpricyHotDog

LOL... is that your only comment? You should seriously invest 5-10 minutes and at least come up with something else to copy and paste.

I love how the left is associating all of our activity with "bots" and yet, shills like this are somehow legitimized.

HarveyKlinger

For him, yes. It's a great accomplishment for HIM. Be sure to send him some money.

HarveyKlinger

So his big accomplishment is getting 150,000 subscribers? Thank you. You proved my point.

HarveyKlinger

LOL. Tell me what David Seaman has DONE. Name one thing other than making YouTube videos. And while you're struggling to come up with it, take a look at ALL of the other YouTubers that make Pizzagate videos and tell me how many of them have EVER begged for money even once. He himself has said he'd say anything for buzz and runs a company dedicated to publicity stunts.

Do you realize the anti-Pizzagaters use him and his videos to show how crazy pizzagate sounds. Do you think that's helpful to the cause. The only people that believe his videos are people that WANT to believe his videos. I haven't heard a single person say they were a pizzagate denier but David Seaman and/or his videos converted them. So at best, his videos are ineffective.

HarveyKlinger

@PG_IzStupidAsFuck2 If what you're saying is correct and you STILL hang out here as much as you do, your life is pretty pitiful to dedicate so much time to it. You're clearly obsessed with pizzagate so either it's because your life has so little meaning you have nothing else to do OR you are desperately trying to discredit it to save your own ass.

HarveyKlinger

That's all he ever cared about.

HarveyKlinger

You'd think that until you start realizing he's drawing wild conclusions that are unproven, taking credit for someone else's work, and being loose and reckless with the facts. He's more of a liability than anything.

HarveyKlinger

I would recommend you read that part of the article again. Every quote they list includes a direct link to where it came from [those red underlines are the links to the sources]. But I promise, David will be hawking for donations again soon. He's quite consistent about it. Whether it's for a legal fund or not is anyone's guess. He's quite creative when it comes to begging for money.

Ample4th

That Newsweek article is garbage. The comments calling it garbage are great though.

Jem777

Let's do a twitter storm to expose Newsweek!!! These are the best tactics to use against them. What is the hashtag????

HarveyKlinger

They directly quoted other people, that's not libel.

quantokitty

Right, so this stupid dick Comey is using the evidence to investigate US and to tie us in with aiding non-existent RUSSIAN OPERATIVES?!!!! Meanwhile, scum like Alefantis with child pedo pics/comments all over the internet are NOT inviestigated? Not even when they have shell companies and houses within the range of where children keep disappearing? Then there's Weiner's laptop that has child porn on it and a host of The Cannibal Queen's emails that show God knows what ... oh, and leaked DNC emails that show these idiots using coded language and throwing underage kids into the pool for entertainment?

Oh, okay! Nope, nothing needs to be changed here .... yup, we're the problem because we're doing it WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE.

HarveyKlinger

You know, the link to the article is at the very top. You could read the article.

islandofdelight

Even though this is the same old strawman fake news debunking article we've come to expect, we should still make our voices heard in the comments... There are paid opposition there to call you names, and to try to engage you in back and forth nonsense, ignore them. Tell the truth and leave it.

Harpua33

You sir are a stroke

pbvrocks

Guess we know where Newsweek falls on the MSM choad list..."citing sources from McClatchey news..." WTF??

islandofdelight

Exactly. People don't understand that the MSM sees Seaman as a threat, maybe 'saw' at this point... and the fact that they got pizzagaters to turn on him was a huge win for the pedo-protectors... All of the tens of thousands of his followers could have been exposed to the deeper investigation through that open door... but NOPE.

HarveyKlinger

The MSM sees him as a joke, not a threat. "They" didn't get pizzagaters to turn against him. Investigators that have been on this since the very beginning never gave David Seaman a second thought because we knew he was merely taking our information and making videos about it. He wasn't (and still isn't) investigating or even accurately reporting anything. The people that latched on to David Seaman were those that came late to the party and he was their main source on "catching up" on what was going on.

DerivaUK

But surely that's a good thing in the end, no?

44NJ9

There's more evidence that Jonh Podesta is a weirdo with his art work collection than they have that Seaman is a nutcase.

4warned

" because of the owner's friendship with senior members of HC's campaign" --- If your friends are convicted pedos, share art of tortured children, joke about sex with children, text pedo codes, fly with pedophiles to remote islands, kidnap children out of countries, protect rapists, you need new friends. It's good to have friends in the media. And the CIA, FBI.NSA

Jem777

The owner is friends with Barack obama. Investigate that including their trip to cuba

AngB23

What pisses me off is the "massive investigations" for the safety of JA/CPP and these sick assholes, fake Russian ties and destroying Trump but no mention or investigations of now 12 missing teens/kids in the D.C. area in the past, what, 2 weeks?! Where's the news coverage on that. JA even has a Go Fund me page. WTF? A billionaire needs a Go Fund me page for CPP?

TabiCatTwo

For the record.. David Seaman does not represent me.

HarveyKlinger

Nor anybody. He only represents himself. Oh yah, and the goldmoney scheme.

Vox_Pacem

and now they're going to label everyone here russian subversives.... again

VieBleu

As part of that probe, FBI agents on Monday interviewed a neighborhood friend of Alefantis. Newsweek is withholding the woman’s identity at her request. She told the agents that her mother had received a threatening call about her grandson Monday night, following the House intelligence committee’s daylong televised hearing on Russian interference in the 2016 elections and connections between unnamed Trump associates and the Kremlin.

“It was horrifying,” the woman said of the anonymous telephone call, in which a man relayed private details about her son. “It was an escalation” of the PizzaGate campaign, she said. “Someone’s spending time and money to harass me.”

Dollars to donuts this has something to do with Tamara Luzzatto and creepy Evie's Criband that."raw and uncut" website.

VieBleu

roundhouse 1776, quoted as the Reddit user in the article with the long bash on Seaman comes here. I have gone a couple of rounds with its shillness.

therealkrispy

This is the first step in creating a narrative that backs up the larger effort to deligitmize PG by linking it to the "Russian conspiracy to derail America!!!1"

Of course, Obamagate will blow the first major hole in that effort.

Aaronkin

So now that the left's wounded campaign to smear Trump with ties to Russia is failing. the left is going to try to pin the ties to Russia label on those of us who have talked about Pizzagate and thereby intimidate us into silence. Is that blood in the water I smell? Kind of makes me hungry! Don't back down guys. hold their feet to the fire!

VieBleu

I like your style.

WolvesAndSheeple

So you are just delusional and have no grasp on reality? Chasing people down the street is progress? Gonna block you now, sick of shills.

privatepizza

If I saw you in the street I'd chase you down it, devious shill.

PizzaDestroyer

Yeah this should not say "it's happening". The first sentence tells you that they are investigating the threats made against Comet Ping Pong, not pizzagate.

WolvesAndSheeple

Are you telling me what my stance is on this issue, while at the same time telling me that you don't know what my stance is on this issue? Are you really that terrified of opposing points of view? I care about this issue, that's why it is an issue to me. Isn't that why we are all here? If you don't like what I have to say, just block me. You don't offer any arguments for why it is a good idea to hold sloppy unorganized protests that make us look bad, so why engage with me if you do not want to exchange thoughts and ideas? Are you a shill trying to get more people to make fools of themselves? Are you working for Soros and media matters? I can't imagine why else you would want people to "march" with David Shurter a man that claims to be the anti-Christ in public. Are you trying to help him discredit Pizzagate? Must be a pedo protector.

DeathToMasons

They are covering up PG, not investigating it. If Comey is involved he will do as he did for Clinton. "There is just nothing there".

TRUTHWARRIOR

This article does nothing to help the cause.

mathemagician33

are you ever going to answer my question about your educational/academic background? what qualifies you as an expert in logic and critical thinking?

also, maybe you should read this article about today's Dr. Phil episode if you think it's "not happening": http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/top-news/mainstream-media-finally-exposes-elite-pedophile-rings-horrifying-episode-dr-phil/ what about FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds' claims?

nomorepepperoni

"The perpetrators of the harassment alleged—without any evidence—that Comet pizza owner James Alefantis and the Clintons were operating a child-sex ring in the restaurant’s basement. "

Am I the only one who is SO FUCKING SICK of this BULLSHIT STRAWMAN!? Meanwhile, let's bitch about Trump being Putin's puppet some more...without evidence.

If it's so fake, why keep bringing it up? They sure seem drawn to this particular "hoax"...

TrishaUK

This may help your frustration, :) Looks like Pres. Trump may have Comey Pizzagate VIDEO PROOF? We all have our fingers crossed! Bye bye elites! https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1861948

anonOpenPress

This was the original plan with the falseflag attack to CPP. Time to make that falseflag public again in big scale, including

  • Edgar Madison Welch's career as an actor
  • Edgar Madison Welch's old short movie with a gun in pizzeria
  • Edgar Madison Welch' links to Haiti via his father
  • The webpage of his father taken down soon after the attack
  • Horror movies with kids produced by his father
  • The traffic camera turned away 22h before the attack
  • The readiness to publish so quickly after the attack in several main stream medias
  • The prosecutor not to be trusted. Who would demand 50y in jail on this?
  • what was it yet more....

meme anyone?

EDIT: I posted this as a new discussion including links https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1741395

srayzie

My blood is boiling now

blackfyre_rebel

I've never seen something so clearly wrong being denied - "without any evidence" - with NO real openness to explain the other side's argument. They are absolutely terrified.

DeathToMasons

They are trapped and have to double down on their bullshit. It is sink or swim now. It is going to get more rediculous with each day. Even the dupes will start waking up because the propaganda press has no cred left and is hanging itself.

nomorepepperoni

Ignore this asshat. He only comes here to troll and mock us.

WolvesAndSheeple

THIS article is exactly what I am talking about! It is frustrating that this is all sitting right in front of us, yet we still think that we can convince the public otherwise. Over half of the country voted Clinton. That means WELL over half are not receptive to what we are talking about. Also, I find it extremely interesting that several youtubers AND several MSM outlets reported the same "David Seaman is a con-man" articles at the same time. It is almost like the youtubers lifted the verbiage straight out of these articles. Anyone that was in any of these hitpeice videos are HIGHLY suspect. I don't know if Seaman is a shill or not, but I have no evidence to prove that he is. Other people claimed that he was using evidence straight out of the MSM. HIGHLY SUSPECT.

privatepizza

FO shill head

Drnoway

I love you.

atodaro

Wow! This articles just confirms to me that Pedogate is real! Comey lies about what he ate for breakfast. Here is an interview of David Seaman from Tuesday 3/21/2017. http://www.trunews.com/listen/david-seaman-deep-state-challenges-president-trump-through-fbi David Seaman comes on at 1:08 mark.

EricKaliberhall

I don't think David Seaman will show up for the PedoGate protest. Or let me re fraise that; I hope David Seaman doesn't show up to the PedoGate protest.

kekistocrat

By Jeff (((Stein))) On 3/22/17 at 8:13 PM

all that needs to be said.

lawfag123

Stein. Of course.

HarveyKlinger

LOL. Even Newsweek called out David Seaman as being a fraud.

fuckfacemcgee

What's happening? The article says the FBI is investigating the investigators instead of the pedophilia accusations. It's a hit piece on the validity of pizzagate. ...it looks like the worry of David Seaman endorsements were warranted as well, the vulture high jacked the investigation for his own popularity, it's even more evident in his latest video where he showcases his "YouTube play button". That dude is a tool.

huhhh

I saw the first 10 seconds of that not knowing it was gonna be Seaman because someone linked it on here. Saw him with his YouTube trophy. He's so disingenuous and phony, but of course he's gonna keep going, otherwise he essentially admits he's a fraud. Dude's like a bad smell that won't leave. Sorry David but you know you're a dodgy fuck.

HarveyKlinger

He has no intentions of letting this die. He's going to ride it into the ground then find another topic that's controversial. That's been his game since the beginning.

Mad_As_Hell

Comey's death throes, looks like shit is about to go down for him and Obama re wiretapping. Check out Nunes press conference earlier

druhill007

whats up with nunes?

Mad_As_Hell

As chair of House Intelligence Committee, made a statement saying he has evidence Obama administration were surveilling Trump - FBI not cooperating with the investigation. Looks like Comey lied under oath. Here's a snippet https://mobile.twitter.com/NIRPUmbrella/status/844655617969176576

druhill007

DAAAAANNNGGGGG. No surprise the fbook and twitter shorts didn't mention that bit hahaah

slothsleuth

“It was an escalation” of the PizzaGate campaign, she said. “Someone’s spending time and money to harass me.”

Notice how there are no quotation marks around the Pizzagate campaign part... almost like whoever wrote this is trying to make readers believe this lady said something she didn't. Sneaky.

derram

https://archive.is/lvV09 | https://vgy.me/hMXwDY.png :

FBI’s Russia Probe Expands to Include ‘PizzaGate’ Threats

'The FBI’s widening investigation into Russian subversion is now looking into continuing threats against a Washington, D.C. pizza shop targeted by right-wing conspiracy mongers. ', "Seaman's personal YouTube channel has been viewed over 6 million times since October 2016, when he began writing about PizzaGate."

'As part of that probe, FBI agents on Monday interviewed a neighborhood friend of Alefantis. '

'One of the principal proselytizers of the PizzaGate conspiracy appears to be David Seaman, a one-time unpaid Huffington Post contributor and author of Dirty Little Secrets of Buzz: How to Attract Massive Attention for Your Business, Your Product, or Yourself. '

'Welch reached a plea deal on March 15 and is scheduled to appear in court Friday for sentencing. '

This has been an automated message.

pizzaequalspedo

Comey will be on trial soon

madhatter67

It's howdy doody time....It's howdy doody time!

bopper

Somebody needs to come out with a same quality video showing the other side, sheeple will only consider something produced well. Don't reinvent the wheel, simply copy what they've done here and turn it on their heads, start mocking them (in a way that they don't know they're being mocked).

Too many garbage (our side) pizzagate videos and you tubers, too much noise and clutter. Keep it simple. That's what this Newsweek video does ... look at how simple and to the point Ben Swann was ... that's the only thing my wife will watch 'cause it looks MSM "newsy," turn it on their heads, start making stuff that is slick and looks like it came from MSM.

When the hit piece on Trump was done (woman on airplane) that was highly-produced, slick stuff. They put a lot into that, and made it sound credible.

dFrog

It's incredibly frustrating for me because I have the means/skills to do this, but I don't really have the spare time and also can't afford to "cross-pollinate" my pizzagate work with this other project I'm involved in.

I can always consult, give feedback, make some kind of graphics templates, and maybe write up some kind of guide for others to follow, but otherwise, my hands are tied.

TrishaUK

We might not have to do any more pizzagate work soon if the COMEY video mentioned is in the hands of President Trump! - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1861948 - Lets hope and pray he does and that it does not take MONTHS to reveal the evidence. Until then we will continue uncovering the filth of the elites which will just amplify to the world their depravity and hatred for the people they look down on, us decent folk. It will expose where their wealth really comes from...trading in human trafficking and misery.

bopper

Wow, I'm completely in the same boat, been in marketing, writing, advertising for 30 years. I'm a "big picture" thumbnail guy, gimme the geeks w/ the know-how and I can do it too. I just direct. You sound like you could do the same. For crying out loud, at least put on a tie and turn down the opening intro Metallica crap, and don't sit there blabbing and putting people to sleep. Sorry for the rant. (First thing you have to do is write a script, simple and to the point billboard-like script/piece.) You gotta grab people immediately or forget it ... that's why when a commercial on TV comes on we yank our heads around immediately to check it out, spontaneously, simply because of the type of music they "intro" with.

dFrog

I know exactly what you mean. I've been telling YouTubers to polish up their form and imitate the MSM style for a while now. So many YouTubers don't realize that they're making content that will quickly turn away anyone outside their target audience.

bopper

Sigh. Really good to hear this, glad you're here, and glad you've been telling people this.

druhill007

lollllll..... it's honestly like pulling back the wizard of oz curtain and seeing a baby randomly pulling levers. with each sliver of lies removed, the truth of their incompetence becomes clearer and clearer

these people are running the damn world. hey big shots. come coach a fucking soccer team. wanna see you operate without hierarchical power. bet the wobbly legs set in. searching pockets that vial o baby blood.

Mad_As_Hell

All that access to people's personal data and they still can't manage to cover their asses. Sad!

Mad_As_Hell

Looks like it, maybe he should join Obama in Tahiti while he still has the chance