I read the thread once, perhaps not meticulously, but close enough to say that there were some differences of opinion, but nothing remotely close to your exaggerations here, in effect that every post in every thread is from a zealot. My advice is ignore those posts or threads you find overly religious, and contribute to the objective of effecting arrests whenever and wherever you can.
You're kinda making an ass of yourself here. You are accusing an entire community of people with a singular goal of being close minded fundies while refusing to have a look from a fundamentalists point of view. There are some very fundamentalist religious people here, as well as extreme atheists, and both have valuable perspectives. Take what you want and leave the rest, but everyone repeating facts without the value of juxtaposed positions gets us nowhere. If your way of thinking was the only right perspective, you'd have this solved right now. It sounds like you are the one that needs to be more open-minded.
All satanists don't eat babies, but their are satanist who do practice eating babies as a cannibalistic ritual, the religion they believe in is the absolute opposite of good. Satan is personification of evil, so a satanist will personify evils they like to commit. Some satanists like to eat people, some like raping women, some like raping men, some like drinking blood, and some like torturing. The things these people have in common is that they are connected to the occult and they like depraved art.
@LadyLiberty
, you will find many here -- including some among the mods -- who are pained by the discussion of the religious/occult aspects of pizzagate and feel it sets the whole investigation up for being dismissed. We established the
v/pizzagate
research post submission guidelines to try to keep people focused on investigating, gathering and documenting evidence, and redpilling others. This is why we set up additional subverses for speculative discussion like
v/pizzagatewhatever
. Unfortunately, people can't seem to resist posting whatever they want here, regardless of the submission guidelines.
And unfortunately, this post of yours is no different. It's an unsourced discussion post on a meta topic and as such belongs in
v/pizzagatewhatever
, or posted as a comment in a thread. (Please note: to gain visibility in comments, you can give your comment a headline, just like a post. Just write it, hit carriage return 2x, then highlight it, click the "H" button and choose the heading style you want.)
I will need to remove this per Rule 4, and ask you to review the submission guidelines again and truly respect them. In fact, before I remove this, I am going to kindly ask if you would remove it yourself and repost in the appropriate subverse as an example to others concerned about keeping
v/pizzagate
a research focused forum. Please?
Another thing I would like to point out is that Voat really is committed to free speech. There is a sitewide anti-censorship policy that protects all comments, no matter how stupid, racist, rude, profane, fanatic, pious, judgemental, retarded or otherwise offensive. We occassionally experience troll attacks from avid non-pizzagate Voaters who wander around and make inflammatory, rude, offensive comments just for shits and giggles to exercise their right to say whatever the hell they feel like. It's this very liberty that has allowed us to continue our projects here without suppression while pizzagate discussion is banned almost everywhere else. I have come to love even the offensive speech. We all become better weapons of bullshit destruction when we up our rhetorical game and engage in the discussion.
The Voat way is: speak your mind and downvoat. You will find many supporters of your views, I'm sure. This is a VERY diverse group.
Thank you for sharing your views, and for listening to mine.
I could turn the tables on you, and ask you to provide evidence that pizzagate is not connected to the occult and satanism, but we all know you're not interested in doing that.
Usually the one to make the original claim, should be required to provide some evidence, rather than shift the burden to others to disprove your theory.
As I've already said, the search button on this forum, youtube, google, wikileaks, etc will provide you with plenty, but if what's ALREADY been presented isn't good enough, it's pointless.
Then it's reasonable to expect you cite at least one post where you or anyone else was labeled a devil worshiper for not practicing the religion of the person who did the labeling. If you can't do that, then one has to assume you have greatly exacerbated a problem of your own making.
I'm not going to waste my time re-hashing what's already been posted 10,000 times in the last 4 months. Use your search feature, although obviously you're not open to that angle.
Sorry but if you don't see the heavy connection to satanism and the occult, you're blind.
I'm not going to preach to you about salvation, but I'm surely not going to look the other way regarding the satanic connection so that I don't offend the non-religious.
Well, obviously YOU don't. But then again, you also don't give a shit about filling up this sub with your personal opinions about unrelated shit so your opinion isn't one I would put too much value in.
Not sure. When I looked at her account earlier today, I think it was only like 9 days old. I found it weird that she was so "educated" and opinionated on Pizzagate, quick to defend David Seaman, and publicly supported sending him money for all of his "hard" work... after only 9 days here. At the time I didn't get the impression that she was a shill as much as an alt account or at a minimum a disingenuous account. After seeing HOW she deleted her account I'm convinced she was a shill. I don't think newb users would think to go through and delete ALL of their comments before deleting their account. Even most long time users don't do that. Why bother?
I'm not convinced anything you said would have driven her away and my previous convo with her was relatively civil. I wonder if THESE were the kinds of comments that drove her away (none from me by the way):
You missed the r, lardyliberty. Welcome to voat. Now fuck off.
Nah. Feelings are for pussies.
You're kinda making an ass of yourself here. You are accusing an entire community of people with a singular goal of being close minded fundies while refusing to have a look from a fundamentalists point of view.
Fuck off commie.
Some people just can't handle crude sarcasm from the internet. Had she gone through the newb VOAT process of introducing herself she would have probably gotten an idea how this place operates and hit the ground running. VOAT is a great place to exchange ideas in a free and open environment. It's a TERRIBLE place if you're overly sensitive and feel everybody owes you an open and honest debate.
Yeah, she took a beating in comments. I didn't read every single one. I wonder if it was actually David Seaman. The expectations and dialogue could fit. LOL.
Hmmm... Your statement that every comment on every post has some fundie (or rather some closed minded f*****rs ) all over it is demonstrably incorrect. There isn't even a "fundie" all over a minority of comments. Perhaps the odd comment does have some fundie action, and typical of your type of personality that wants to dictate how everyone should think and speak, even once in a while is just too much for you.
Have you ever thought to think that the people committing these acts are at least in the occult. And within these occults, they perform rituals, some of these rituals include pedophilia, torture via electrocution, cannibalism, human sacrifice and plenty more. So if we can find people who practice these type of rituals like spirit cooking with John & Tony Podesta and Marina Abramović, then we have the chance of finding another connection in this ring of elite occultists.
LadyLibert, it's anti Satanist, the traffiking and slaughter of children in the name of Satan will turn any atheist to a believer in Jesus. LadyLiberty, for your information, the "Statue of Liberty" was created by 33rd degree Freemasons who worship Lucifer
http://gnosticwarrior.com/statue-of-liberty.html
That made me laugh out loud... comical when all of us are trying to stop Satanists raping and murdering children and someone's feelings are hurt because Christians might want to pray. I say bring all the help we can to take these evil bastards down. Some can only pray, some need to go out and kick some ass and investigate these sickos.
What exactly is a fundie? Regardless, even many decent minded atheists and agnostics understand that "satan" or satanism exists as an archetype of evil, and that it's parlance that is comprehensible to everyone. If you want to council VOAT members on how to speak and what words to use so it meets your personal expectations, good luck.
I think I get what you're saying. I almost posted about it yesterday. There was a thread about John Podesta (I'll post the link if I find it before this gets deleted. Here:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1739605)
), wherein about half the posts were, "let's pray about this!" "Yes, dear Jesus..." Etc.
I realize Christians can't
not
apply their beliefs to everything, but we will be so much better off not making this about religion. Stop saying it's Christians vs Satan worshipers. I believe in neither.
Come on man. Even if you knew where the poster stood on David Seaman, it's highly irresponsible to inject his name here for your own purpose. By now everyone understands some like him and others don't, and no ones changing their mind, so get used it.
A search of the first three pages of new entries includes precisely zero examples of any threads that could be construed as fundamentalist christian meet ups, so one has to assume you're just interested in causing trouble. Further, you have (or had) precisely 2 down votes on your 9 thread submissions (at least up to this point) which indicates your contributions are (or rather were) well appreciated, so why complain?
▼ VieBleu
What a gang of monkeys here, perfect example of a gang bang by a bunch of bananas.
▼ JesusRules
Umm, why are you on the Pizzagate subversive, and what are you contributing?
▼ JesusRules
What makes you a grown-up?
▼ rwb
I read the thread once, perhaps not meticulously, but close enough to say that there were some differences of opinion, but nothing remotely close to your exaggerations here, in effect that every post in every thread is from a zealot. My advice is ignore those posts or threads you find overly religious, and contribute to the objective of effecting arrests whenever and wherever you can.
▼ MyNameIsLuka
Are you seeing the irony at all?
▼ Pufferf1sh
Nah. Feelings are for pussies.
▼ MyNameIsLuka
You're kinda making an ass of yourself here. You are accusing an entire community of people with a singular goal of being close minded fundies while refusing to have a look from a fundamentalists point of view. There are some very fundamentalist religious people here, as well as extreme atheists, and both have valuable perspectives. Take what you want and leave the rest, but everyone repeating facts without the value of juxtaposed positions gets us nowhere. If your way of thinking was the only right perspective, you'd have this solved right now. It sounds like you are the one that needs to be more open-minded.
▼ Lonesome_Pizza
All satanists don't eat babies, but their are satanist who do practice eating babies as a cannibalistic ritual, the religion they believe in is the absolute opposite of good. Satan is personification of evil, so a satanist will personify evils they like to commit. Some satanists like to eat people, some like raping women, some like raping men, some like drinking blood, and some like torturing. The things these people have in common is that they are connected to the occult and they like depraved art.
▼ pizzaequalspedo
That's mature
▼ pizzaequalspedo
Shilling 101.... Turn the board on itself
▼ Vindicator
@LadyLiberty , you will find many here -- including some among the mods -- who are pained by the discussion of the religious/occult aspects of pizzagate and feel it sets the whole investigation up for being dismissed. We established the v/pizzagate research post submission guidelines to try to keep people focused on investigating, gathering and documenting evidence, and redpilling others. This is why we set up additional subverses for speculative discussion like v/pizzagatewhatever . Unfortunately, people can't seem to resist posting whatever they want here, regardless of the submission guidelines.
And unfortunately, this post of yours is no different. It's an unsourced discussion post on a meta topic and as such belongs in v/pizzagatewhatever , or posted as a comment in a thread. (Please note: to gain visibility in comments, you can give your comment a headline, just like a post. Just write it, hit carriage return 2x, then highlight it, click the "H" button and choose the heading style you want.)
I will need to remove this per Rule 4, and ask you to review the submission guidelines again and truly respect them. In fact, before I remove this, I am going to kindly ask if you would remove it yourself and repost in the appropriate subverse as an example to others concerned about keeping v/pizzagate a research focused forum. Please?
Another thing I would like to point out is that Voat really is committed to free speech. There is a sitewide anti-censorship policy that protects all comments, no matter how stupid, racist, rude, profane, fanatic, pious, judgemental, retarded or otherwise offensive. We occassionally experience troll attacks from avid non-pizzagate Voaters who wander around and make inflammatory, rude, offensive comments just for shits and giggles to exercise their right to say whatever the hell they feel like. It's this very liberty that has allowed us to continue our projects here without suppression while pizzagate discussion is banned almost everywhere else. I have come to love even the offensive speech. We all become better weapons of bullshit destruction when we up our rhetorical game and engage in the discussion.
The Voat way is: speak your mind and downvoat. You will find many supporters of your views, I'm sure. This is a VERY diverse group.
Thank you for sharing your views, and for listening to mine.
▼ pizzaequalspedo
I could turn the tables on you, and ask you to provide evidence that pizzagate is not connected to the occult and satanism, but we all know you're not interested in doing that.
Usually the one to make the original claim, should be required to provide some evidence, rather than shift the burden to others to disprove your theory.
As I've already said, the search button on this forum, youtube, google, wikileaks, etc will provide you with plenty, but if what's ALREADY been presented isn't good enough, it's pointless.
▼ JesusRules
Oh, so your pro pedophilia and and human sacrifice? Could you elaborate on "here we go..."?
▼ Lonesome_Pizza
http://pedocrats.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/1478330989062.png
http://truthfeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/spirit-cooking-2.png
http://29wyu31qhvsjwj4mf2oi5lg1.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/spirit-cooking-680x365.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M6Xwp-DoQnU/hqdefault.jpg
http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-do-what-thou-wilt-shall-be-the-whole-of-the-law-aleister-crowley-44869.jpg
http://www.federaljack.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/crowley1.png
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/021/666/image31.png
http://i.imgur.com/36a9frz.jpg
http://www.abeldanger.org/web/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/tony-podesta-and-jeffrey-dahmer.png
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/8e/f5/28/8ef528fdbdeeba329caebc03c605418a.png
http://stateofthenation2012.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/540057_474609015892671_2083802974_n-1-1.jpg
▼ rwb
Ahh, gotcha. Context was helpful. Thanks.
▼ MyNameIsLuka
Oops, I deleted my comment by accident.
For the record, I said that Op is mad that someone thinks the song "Imagine" sounds satanic in nature.
▼ rwb
Then it's reasonable to expect you cite at least one post where you or anyone else was labeled a devil worshiper for not practicing the religion of the person who did the labeling. If you can't do that, then one has to assume you have greatly exacerbated a problem of your own making.
▼ pizzaequalspedo
I'm not going to waste my time re-hashing what's already been posted 10,000 times in the last 4 months. Use your search feature, although obviously you're not open to that angle.
If you don't like the board, see ya....
▼ Lonesome_Pizza
Enlighten me oh wise one, reveal your wisdom about the occult.
▼ pizzaequalspedo
Sorry but if you don't see the heavy connection to satanism and the occult, you're blind.
I'm not going to preach to you about salvation, but I'm surely not going to look the other way regarding the satanic connection so that I don't offend the non-religious.
▼ Antiracist2
Do tell.
▼ PG_IsRidiculous
You mean people driven mad by insanity and ridiculous obviously fictitious conspiracy theories?
▼ DarkMath
PG_IsRidiculous
Fuck nuts. Why do you keep insisting Pizzagate is limited to Comet Ping Pong?
Why are you such a coward?
▼ HarveyKlinger
Well, obviously YOU don't. But then again, you also don't give a shit about filling up this sub with your personal opinions about unrelated shit so your opinion isn't one I would put too much value in.
▼ Vindicator
Harvey, I don't know if it was you, or what I said , but LadyLiberty deleted her account. Do you suppose we exposed a shill?
▼ HarveyKlinger
Not sure. When I looked at her account earlier today, I think it was only like 9 days old. I found it weird that she was so "educated" and opinionated on Pizzagate, quick to defend David Seaman, and publicly supported sending him money for all of his "hard" work... after only 9 days here. At the time I didn't get the impression that she was a shill as much as an alt account or at a minimum a disingenuous account. After seeing HOW she deleted her account I'm convinced she was a shill. I don't think newb users would think to go through and delete ALL of their comments before deleting their account. Even most long time users don't do that. Why bother?
I'm not convinced anything you said would have driven her away and my previous convo with her was relatively civil. I wonder if THESE were the kinds of comments that drove her away (none from me by the way):
Some people just can't handle crude sarcasm from the internet. Had she gone through the newb VOAT process of introducing herself she would have probably gotten an idea how this place operates and hit the ground running. VOAT is a great place to exchange ideas in a free and open environment. It's a TERRIBLE place if you're overly sensitive and feel everybody owes you an open and honest debate.
Either way, good riddance.
▼ Vindicator
Yeah, she took a beating in comments. I didn't read every single one. I wonder if it was actually David Seaman. The expectations and dialogue could fit. LOL.
▼ rwb
Hmmm... Your statement that every comment on every post has some fundie (or rather some closed minded f*****rs ) all over it is demonstrably incorrect. There isn't even a "fundie" all over a minority of comments. Perhaps the odd comment does have some fundie action, and typical of your type of personality that wants to dictate how everyone should think and speak, even once in a while is just too much for you.
▼ Lonesome_Pizza
Have you ever thought to think that the people committing these acts are at least in the occult. And within these occults, they perform rituals, some of these rituals include pedophilia, torture via electrocution, cannibalism, human sacrifice and plenty more. So if we can find people who practice these type of rituals like spirit cooking with John & Tony Podesta and Marina Abramović, then we have the chance of finding another connection in this ring of elite occultists.
▼ Antiracist2
Jesus fucking Christ so much this.
Believing in pizzagate isn't believing hillary eats babies. It's the belief that pizzagate isn't debunked and is worth investigation.
@SarMegahhikkitha @bojangles @eagleshigh
▼ JesusRules
LadyLibert, it's anti Satanist, the traffiking and slaughter of children in the name of Satan will turn any atheist to a believer in Jesus. LadyLiberty, for your information, the "Statue of Liberty" was created by 33rd degree Freemasons who worship Lucifer http://gnosticwarrior.com/statue-of-liberty.html
▼ Jem777
That made me laugh out loud... comical when all of us are trying to stop Satanists raping and murdering children and someone's feelings are hurt because Christians might want to pray. I say bring all the help we can to take these evil bastards down. Some can only pray, some need to go out and kick some ass and investigate these sickos.
▼ glorycloud62
thanks for making me chuckle
▼ Pufferf1sh
You missed the r, lardyliberty. Welcome to voat. Now fuck off.
▼ HarveyKlinger
If you think THIS is the correct place to do that, you're an idiot.
▼ PG_IsRidiculous
Voat feels like an echo chamber of insanity.
▼ rwb
What exactly is a fundie? Regardless, even many decent minded atheists and agnostics understand that "satan" or satanism exists as an archetype of evil, and that it's parlance that is comprehensible to everyone. If you want to council VOAT members on how to speak and what words to use so it meets your personal expectations, good luck.
▼ noone222
America could stand a good old fire and brimstone revival !
▼ waxdino
I think I get what you're saying. I almost posted about it yesterday. There was a thread about John Podesta (I'll post the link if I find it before this gets deleted. Here: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1739605) ), wherein about half the posts were, "let's pray about this!" "Yes, dear Jesus..." Etc. I realize Christians can't not apply their beliefs to everything, but we will be so much better off not making this about religion. Stop saying it's Christians vs Satan worshipers. I believe in neither.
▼ pizzaequalspedo
You don't have to believe in either to be against pedophiles obviously. Rather than turn on one another let's remember who the common enemy is
▼ MyNameIsLuka
Lol, I was in on that. I was fucking with the shill. It was a continuation of the previous, deleted post that that guy had made.
▼ HarveyKlinger
Seriously, you DO realize your post is off topic right?!
▼ Lonesome_Pizza
I haven't seen anybody being fanatical
▼ HarveyKlinger
As I told you earlier... WAY TOO MANY SHITPOSTS in this sub. This is a prime example. How in the fuck did this post of yours contribute to Pizzagate?!
NO wonder you respect David Seaman so much!
▼ rwb
Come on man. Even if you knew where the poster stood on David Seaman, it's highly irresponsible to inject his name here for your own purpose. By now everyone understands some like him and others don't, and no ones changing their mind, so get used it.
▼ HarveyKlinger
OP and I had a LONG drawn out discussion on him AND shitposting to this sub. This is merely a continuation.
▼ rwb
A search of the first three pages of new entries includes precisely zero examples of any threads that could be construed as fundamentalist christian meet ups, so one has to assume you're just interested in causing trouble. Further, you have (or had) precisely 2 down votes on your 9 thread submissions (at least up to this point) which indicates your contributions are (or rather were) well appreciated, so why complain?
▼ Bishop1991
Fuck off commie.