Vindicator

@watchersonthewall , I'm sorry to say, I have to remove this because it's an unsourced discussion post that should have been posted in v/pizzagatewhatever ; v/pizzagate is for source-linked research posts, as the submission guidelines in the sidebar clearly state. Please review them (view desktop site if on mobile). Removing per Rule 4.

kekistocrat

He's a Jew pushing shekels (gold and bitcoin)... what more needs to be said? These Ashkenazi fucks are responsible for the majority of the misery around the world. All documented and verified. One only needs to look it up.

brbomglolwtfbbq

Seaman didn't do jack shit. he just made videos where he said "pizzagate is reeeeeeel" 700 times and then when he sensed people slipping away from him he would delete his twitter account to get the buzz going again. pathetic. whats even more pathetic is how everyone keeps swallowing seaman (kek)

THE GOYIM KNOW, DAVID. SHUT IT DOWN.

brbomglolwtfbbq

Oh and member when he said the deep state was poisoning him? I 'member...

Aderville

I keep retweeting him. He's consistent and he's loud. We need loud people:

Freemasonsrus

I think it's very different when you have a wife and kids AND employees depending on you. I am no AJ fan. I only watch his show when there is something linked that is good info, like when he interviewed Montgomery's lawyer the other day. However, I do know how men with real world responsibilities respond to threats of either violence against his wife and kids (possible) or a lawsuit that his own lawyer is telling him he would lose (more likely). Even as a "non-fan" I can see his POV. Do I think it sucks?? Fuck yes. I would like to say I wouldn't cave, but I don't have the responsibilities he does to his family and employees. Here's to hoping he's bought himself some time and will be able to come out later and explain his actions after there are arrests.

GeorgeT

There was fear in his eyes, the kind of fear that doesn't come when only ones own life is at stake. He has 3 children!

GeorgeT

He did something a lot worse, in fact something so scary that it would give him nightmares. When or if pizza/pedogate breaks open (there are signs that it might) and arrests start happening, including of Mr Innocent 'Kid friendly pizza parlor owner' Alex will have to get plastic surgery and move to Iceland, or better yet Greenland, joined there by Megyn Kelly, Stephen Colbert, Cenk Ugar and O'reilly. This might be the dumbest thing Alex has done. This video in fact red pilll more viewers than ever. And he may well unwittingly become a guy who had apologised to a serial child killer and possibly a cannibal. Way to go Alex. Perhaps that Brain Force that you peddle is not so potent after all.

GeorgeT

Just last week he was getting into the ring with Alec Baldwin and Bill O'Reily, bare nuckles for their favorite charity. What changed?

Piscina

I'm seeing whole videos made by people who purportedly support Pizzagate about Seaman being a shill:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kksS13kpZ44

Whenever I see people sowing dissention and attacking Seaman, my immediate thought is that they're the shill and that they're plants to divide the cause. Seaman has his list of faults, but at least he's not out there attacking pizzagate investigators or spokespeople.

Everyone contributes differently; we each have our strengths and our weaknesses. But if you're out there dissing people speaking out about pizzagate, we see you for what you are.

DeathToMasons

Stop with Seaman and get back to PG. Down vote.

sentryseven

No. No, he doesn't.

wtf_is_happening

Alex Jones has kids. Seaman isn't a father yet. Makes DS less vulnerable to threats I'm guessing.

oneposteach

Yea he is a troll, I support that, trolls bring out the worst in people and good people are never effected. It's like a virus that attacks only cancer when done right. Seaman knows.

Silverlining

Breitbart came across as rather prickly too, when he was accusing Podesta, just before he died. Whatever the motivation, I think David has contributed significantly and positively to what we are all trying to achieve here.

watchersonthewall

That's another favorite of mine, thanks for reminding me! As for my handle, it was more a throwback to the old testament and men of renown but I think the game of thrones reference is brilliant too

Waltherchick3118

Great post....thank you....

awakenaware

If you type in his name on google, THEY are using a post from voat of all places to discredit him! Ironic..

http://imgur.com/a/dZ7Ju

David Seaman Outed as a Total Fraud, Likely Mossad Asset

Pokes

If David Seaman were controlled opposition, designed to make us look like trump-fanboi, doomsday preppers while simultaneously shilling for gold and crytocurrencies, would his media presence look any different? I get that he may have red-pilled some people, but he did so by focusing on the comet ping pong pizzagate narrative, has ignored everything george webb discovers and discusses, seems not to be aware of or share anything of note being uncovered, continues to push the satnism/occult angle and, I do not believe has ever mentioned organ harvesting. So, yeah, believe what you want. I believe the guy is a shameless opportunist if not outright controlled opposition.

awakenaware

Seaman is what I thought he was.. an opportunist, a self promotor, he saw a great opportunity for fame and fortune through a cause that he could personally get behind, and I feel he is going for it 100%.. He talks about himself a lot but he also does good summaries of PG and is keeping on top of the latest stuff coming out and he is helping educate a lot of normal people to whats going on. So Im really glad he is doing what hes doing. He is milking it to the max, and hes also quite young and I honestly don't think he realises the risk hes taking, just like Brietbart let his ego and anger get the better of him sometimes.. He has anger inside him against society and he enjoys these opportunities to let some of that frustration and anger out on people like Skippy, and so I say let him do it.. hes doing us a favor. Thats my psychoanalysis of David anyway :p and im never wrong about anything or anyone, except when i am.

watchersonthewall

I'm pretty sure my anger issues will go away too when every pedophile is lazily swinging from a tree, or Christ has is second coming, which ever comes first.

Forgetmenot

Anyone who fights for children I consider an ally, we as a movement need to be very strong and unified against these dark forces that are working so hard to discredit and divide us. OP Thank you for posting this. I am very grateful for David seaman and anyone who has fought on behalf of children.

Yuke

We have, as I see it, three groups:

1.) The genuine Pizzagate researchers.

2.) The Shills

3.) The ones that 'pretend' to be on the side of the Pizzagate researchers, but are actually out for their own means.

As I see it, if you ask for money, in any part of this, you are either number two or you're number three; you are certainly not number one!

Conclude as you will. My thoughts on anyone trying to be a central figure regarding this, I've said many times.

VieBleu

I would like to see a whole lot of people who make a living just exposing pizzapedogate - that would mean there is broad support for this cause!

Making money is not a problem, intention is everything. Making money does not automatically equal bad intentions.

watchersonthewall

He did launch fulcrum news, so Dave is leveraging the platform he has to secure a separate stream of news and revenue. He is talented no doubt, and he'd make a ton of money reporting on the PJW and Alex Jones world news than he does talking about pizzagate which gets his videos instantly de-monetized and forces him to beg for money.

There are more lucrative things for him to be doing with his time. Paul Joseph Watson has almost 900k followers,and far more cash. IF he discussed pizzagate that would vanish (the cash, not the followers).

sugarskull

I am on a laptop. strange

UnicornsAndSparkles

Wow! Thanks. This boy has some big balls!

UnicornsAndSparkles

Please post a link.

IDeliverPizza

I saw david seaman get on his knees and lead a prayer in front of hundreds to defeat the pedos i swear if i hear any more shilling against him i will take legal action myself with my millions.

watchersonthewall

Thanks for shining the light bro.

V____Z

And fuck "A Call For An Uprising" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kksS13kpZ44

'David never mentions the CIA and didn't blame the Jews'

David is actually the only person I saw mention the CIA (in relation to Washington Post)

And calling out a certain religion is NOT the way to raise awareness.

I'm glad Call 4 Uprising stays on youtube and away from actual protests, because he would drive away all sane people.

Forgetmenot

I have to agree especially regarding the religious attacks. These pedos have infiltrated every religion there is and twisted it to suit their sick habits. It's easy to become too paranoid and blame entire religions. The only religion I can blame 100 percent is the satanic/ luciferian religion. Even Jesus was accused of working for the devil. So be careful who we accuse.

V____Z

Well said!!

watchersonthewall

He made a great point. And what more research can or needs to be done at this point? The most important evidence has been exhausted. David is keeping the momentum going by bringing attention to the issue. By the way, if he wasn't sponsored, do you recommend he goes and applies for a job? Everyone knows him, or a quick google will fill you in. And the slander and libel that comes up is quite damning if you don't know the truth behind pedogate.

V____Z

He really did lose a lot by calling attention to pizzagate, you're right. He's talking about moving on to another topic, as per his Twitter feed tonight, where he is again being harassed by media personalities. You can only handle so much, as David Brock is well aware. That was their whole point.

Forgetmenot

How are you today ?

IDeliverPizza

Who fucking cares about credit? So what the dude is putting in work. Its about the kids you fucking shill.

watchersonthewall

Because it was my first post and I was unsure of the rules....played it safe. To me, pizzagate in its entirety isn't safe for work seeing as we now know most major corporations are involved somehow.

watchersonthewall

I give you guys a ton of credit too. The research is unreal, but Dave brings the hype. Both of those components are needed in my opinion. Without the other the whole thing fizzles out and dies, and thousands of kids will too because of it.

NoBS

You're acting like a spoiled rotten child who craves all the glory. Greed and Jealousy for the world to see. And you post like this is a good thing, because you are seriously shallow.

samhara

"and he has millions to lose so he folded because he knows that unless we literally take up arms against these people, nothing is going to happen."

Total Baloney. He folded because he's a liar and betrays his fans. Stab in the back.? And guess what? No remorse. No respect for ordinary people. Contempt for the people he fools.

watchersonthewall

Thanks for bringing that to my attention, I'll give it a read. Yes, there is no way Alex was going to let pizzagate be the mountain he would die on. What's infuriating is they are using his apology as if it it's proof that pizzagate could or has been debunked. Debunking pizzagate at this point is like trying to debunk concentration camps and the Jews.

micha_

That was the second "speech"? 1:22? And you applause him for that? So in both "speeches" Seaman did only talk about other journalists. Indeed nothing useful about Pizzagate.

druhill007

you have a problem with him telling people not to take interviews from WaPo crowd stalkers and why?

micha_

That was a speech for a demo about an important topic. What did he say on that stage to inform people about pizzagate/pedogate? What did he say, to convince sceptics? NULL. ZERO. NADA. But he knows, how to create huge attention. He also knows, what information is important and how it must be spread, that everyone understands it. BTW there was NOT ONE USEFUL SPEECH!

After that demo we look even more as tinfoil hats than before. Mission obviously accomplished.

druhill007

i'm assuming that wasn't the only thing he said while speaking? I haven't seen all of the speeches.

I'll analyze after that fact... in the meantime, I'll assume that wasn't the only thing he said and will respectfully disagree with your assertion of its intentions and its affects

micha_

Feel free to inform me, if you find something useful he said.

druhill007

ah just read 'not one useful speech'.. really? from anybody? or from him? once again I just started browsing footage

planetswillalign

Yep. David Seaman would do anything for attention. All of his bs is self motivated. He trashes the voat community and he has no class.

The only reason he is so vocal about pizzagate is so that he can pretend he was the driving force behind the whole thing and be the face of pizzagate investigation.

redditsuckz

Wow Seaman has a lot of swallowers.

watchersonthewall

Please link to me all of your videos of your face and voice on camera in front of millions speaking on behalf of the little and I too can respect you.

redditsuckz

PIZZAGATE PEDOGATE PROTEST @ LAFAYETTE PARK IN DC! DAVID SEAMAN MAKES IT ABOUT HIM AND NOT THE KIDS!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kksS13kpZ44

watchersonthewall

"I watched, but did not participate, but was disappointed in how others participated". I stopped listening 1:04 seconds in. Thanks for getting that out of the way before I bothered to listen to anymore.

Omnicopy

I've been trying to warn people for 34 years

GeorgeHodelDidit

Yeah it seems he has more courage than Alex Jones. David Seaman would relish being sued. It would get into the media which is why Alefantis wont really do it. Stand up to threats and we will break through.....Alex Jones took the cowards way out.

planetswillalign

David Seaman would do anything to have people talk about him. I don't know if that's really courage when everything you do is based on selfishness.

artfullyours

You want to know what selfishness is! Selfishness, sick selfishness is using young children, older children, anyone for your own sick perverted needs! THAT is the ultimate selfishness...punishment for that? Eternity being tortured as you tortured...never ending!

IDeliverPizza

As he should he wants the publicity to help the kids man.

GeorgeHodelDidit

I kind of think the shills have twisted what we think of David. I am coming to the opinion that he was indeed a hotheaded young man and wrote some silly stuff at age 20, But I think now he is actually on our side. He does not do enough actual investigation. But who knows how many people he has red pilled on the Cult? For that alone he deserves our praise. Frankly until you guys can come up with undeniable proof he is a fraud I think he has more points in his favor than most.

watchersonthewall

I hate attention, and am not selfish. Consequently I have exactly zero subscribers and virtually no influence outside of my small sphere when it comes to pizzagate so I'm glad Dave is able to get it done. I'd imagine if he didn't at least enjoy the attention that he'd probably self destruct.

44NJ9

We cannot be afraid of words anymore. If you are not a racists don't fear being called a racist, fascist, whatever. Look at who they send out to counter this movement, Antifa. Violent people wearing all black. Yet silence on how they are acting badly.

sugarskull

SOOOO STRANGE it will not play the video for me...creepy

quantokitty

Yup, he's proved his loyalty to the cause of putting pedophiles behind bars and cleaning up the Elite Cannibal Mess.

Props to him. Doubt his critics could have battled as nobly as he has and continues to do. Way to go, David!

P.S. If you haven't read his tweets lately, you should! Calls out everyone ... too funny! :)

V____Z

Wow, I listened to 2 hours worth of speeches and it seems David is the only person to mention the CIA. I don't want to hear anyone making fun of him for any reason. He's got balls, and he's got an audience. He deserves our support.

druhill007

check out this stream from one of the other guys? don't know his name but not friends with seamen?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XOfXQDUecM&feature=youtu.be

his reaction to talmud and then foster care has alarmed

SayWhatNOWAY

Only one post, and full of over the top Seaman praising. I think this is a pd poster.

huntercel

He is proof one can speak truth without being an honest or arguably, a good person, he gets some respect, but not every ounce...that would be madness

watchersonthewall

For sure none of us are perfect, and I only come to the defense of Dave not because I thought Voat was against him, but because the image of him being made a mockery of made me support him that much more. Just like I knew I had to vote for Trump when I saw that GOP, Dems, and MSM hated him. I knew he was a threat for a reason.

I'm not sure about anything regarding Dave's personal life, and I honestly don't care. He's a reporter to me, reporting on the well-being of little ones world wide. That he really sleeps with a loaded pistol at night, I have no doubt.

huntercel

I just hate the way he is always asking for donations, and that he genuinely seems to feel like he should be able to live off the donations based on what he has contributed. IMO he has not contributed jack shit, but that doesn't make him an enemy, just selfish. I like Webb a lot though.

GeorgeHodelDidit

David has no job now....the Globalist Pedophiles have saw to that. So until we have our revolution and the world becomes safe for legit Pedophile hunter reporters then I see no real problem with him asking for money. Something has to feed his ass. Something has to put gas in his tank. And unless he is actually a Rothschild fraud he does need actual money to get by. So I am of the mindset to let his asking for money pass.

V____Z

Webb, who claims we can tweet a certain hashtag and we will get a million dollars. Webb, who says Hillary is not actually involved in the occult. Webb, along with his other CIA buddy Steele, says we should be satisfied with the perps not going to jail but just admitting what they did and naming names. I don't understand why people trust the CIA.

watchersonthewall

I can see where you are coming from as this is an extremely emotional issue, I think it weighs on all of us spiritually and emotionally, honestly. Still, I have to work to pay my mortgage and have little time to do what Dave does. I don't think he could have reached all of the people he has without living off donations. We are donating to a cause that takes the burden off our shoulders, and I'm ok with that. There is an article talking about Dave being a snake oil salesman, and maybe some is true, maybe not. But I do know that we all change as over time. The man I a today is leagues wiser and morally superior than the younger man I was in my twenties.

NoBS

If only you had a following to get the word out, then your petty jealousy would not be so cringe worthy.

huntercel

Why do i care if i make some normiefag cringe? go suck some more kikeoverlord dick. Also why would i be jealous of someone with a bullseye painted on their head?

NoBS

Your emotional dependence is not hidden very well. It's not as overt as your dependence on Character Assassination, which is the best paying gig online right now.

V____Z

Amen.

And thank you for saying this.

We need more kindness in our very solid but maligned group. I say shun and downvote anyone trying to create division amongst us from now on. The children are too precious for us not to take a strong stance now that we see what is going on. And yes, sometimes the shills are even acting as mods on Voat. Be brave, see the truth, and remember who we are fighting for.

MysticMa

AMEN!!!

watchersonthewall

The crazy thing is, what we are dealing with is so grotesque, so vile and evil- that it is so easy for the enemy to divide us because none of us are honestly equipped to deal with the magnitude of this situation. When I saw the missing children stats from Virginia alone, my jaw dropped. Then I see the media collusion and cover-up for Podesta, Clinton, and all major players involved directly or indirectly and I remember the quote from Thomas Jefferson when he said "Every so often the tree of liberty must be watered by the blood of patriots".

rodeo13

"... I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come."

Love your Voat handle, watchersonthewall! We are all "in the great game now, and it is terrifying." (Game of Thrones references for those who haven't seen the show)

samhara

They are getting paid. Remember that. All of Brock's people get paid for fooling people.

They divide the opposition because we are amateur - they manipulate the society through Media, and they plan to hurt anyone who stands against them .And They Do It.

So is it any wonder that we are divided?

Also they send in Provocateurs to divide.

Also they send in Propagandists and Sophists to muddy the water and confuse.

It's a Military Strategy and they spend billions on it , over decades.

The main strategy being employed by those we call ‘the Slavemasters’ was the so-called “strategy of tension”.

The aim of the strategy (the principle tactic was “terrorist outrages” carried out by ‘fascists’) was to spread panic and unrest and to directly attack those rising against the slavemasters in any way, and provoke them into an armed response, which would both justify increased state power under the pretext of a “national emergency” and isolate the rebellious types from popular support. 12

https://mikemcclaughry.wordpress.com/the-reading-library/specific-persons/the-dismantling-of-scientologys-guardian-office-the-real-reason-why/#Simple

Votescam

Good read which STRESSES the importance of non-violent revolution.

Violence will only benefit those in power -- they control our MIC/Intelligence -- They only way they've been able to rise to power is by violence, assassination, intimidation, lies, threats, stolen elections, hack-able computer voting over 50 years now! This has always been true -- the only way the right wing can rise is by violence.

SayWhatNOWAY

Sorry, But you are being snowed by Seaman! Just like Jones!

samhara

I'm enjoying the [perhaps false] hope Seaman provides. I find him much more appealing than "Jones.'

I also resent people dissing David Seaman - he's without the support of an "Alex Jones" And he's taking bigger hits.

You could see the emotion on his face and his face changing with the stress. I feel many people investigating this were going through at the time. He's a real person, as opposed to "Jones" who is an actor through and through.

I ' m open minded. But I haven't seen anything to impugn D. Seaman.

I've seen a lot of shills and haters target him, though.

Makes sense that he is real. What would inflame people with such hatred so quickly?

SayWhatNOWAY

We will have to agree to disagree on Seaman. Spotted the fake in Beck and Jones after two times listening to them. Seaman only took 10 min. Just saying.

samhara

Can you detail the "tell?"

He did the finding of the factory where it looked like people were being made into soap.. And then what? Called Alephatis.. ? Was that him? That's called "leap before you look?"

SaneGoatiSwear5

v/reportshills report 'em.

sugarskull

Its gone from there have a direct link?

GeorgeT

David Seaman called out Alifantis and Podesta. He said 'Am I going to apologize? Fu$& no!' I told you guys David wasn't a shill.

equineluvr

Why is this NSFW?

watchersonthewall

I don't know the rules around here, I'm new so I played it safe. No idea how a pizzagate forum could be safe for work. By the way, unreal how fast I'm getting down votes. Media Matters is in over-drive today.

equineluvr

Welcome! Well it depends on the post. Your post doesn't contain any vile language or nude photos, so it would be SFW in my book. Consider your downvoats a badge of honor. :) The shills are everywhere. That said, not everyone around here is a fan of David Seaman's -- I certainly am not. Not all of us are shills; some just honestly disagree.

watchersonthewall

Thanks for the welcome! Fair enough, but the man is exposing hundreds of thousands to an otherwise taboo topic. He's taking it mainstream, as far as I am concerned. As an individual, he is certainly bringing the most attention to the issue, and getting an investigation going is the goal for all of us so not supporting him seems counter-productive. He's become the medias meat-bag and they are definitely eviscerating him.

That image they made of him on the Daily Beast, boiled my blood. That's when I actually really felt Dave's fight, like him or not. Thanks for reading ;)

watchersonthewall

Assuming you aren't a shill (which today is like the Ides of March only for trolls doing troll things), I've followed him since the beginning. This is hard hitting stuff. If I were him I'd have deleted everything to. Every fiber of your being wants to run from this, but he gets on camera and goes right for the pedos jugular.

If you aren't a shill, that's more than I can say for you arm chair warriors. Sitting beyond your comfortable and safe layer of anonymity, just watching life pass by without leaving any sort of legacy except drivel on some message board. 15 kids in DC missing, 1500 arrests in just two months of major pedos nationwide, and you have a problem with David why exactly? Go pound sand.

sugarskull

Could you please link me to his speech I AM DYING TO SEE IT!! kek

SayWhatNOWAY

ROFL! Stop! Your kidding right! How much did Seaman pay you to write this?