Scablifter

The Mail does not care what shite it prints as long as people keep buying it, and they do.

BerksResident

This is positive. ok the DM is not saying pizzagate is 100% real, but they are leaving some breadcrumbs in the article to pique its huge readership curiosity. if you read between the MSM official story there is some good facts which suggest further investigation is required. we should take this as a positive step.

keepthefaith

I can agree with this.

UnicornsAndSparkles

A whole post based on a nasty perception from a nasty person. I hope you you were there.

keepthefaith

Grow up and read my responses to some other comments, which will be applicable to you too.

keepthefaith

Grow up. Of course I support the cause. But this insane-looking family? Nope.

dougG

Go back to church and pray you wackadoo! You have no idea who these people are, their history or values....

keepthefaith

Grow up, nutjob.

Newsflash. "Bad" publicity is not as good as "good publicity." Did you graduate high school?

This family look like a bunch of lunatics. Not saying they didn't do a great thing by attempting to support the cause, but they certainly didn't help it.

dougG

Why don't you post a picture of yourself up here so we can judge you. Anyone that is financially stable enough to make t-shirts and drive to DC from Florida for the weekend just with two happy looking kids just for a small rally can't be doing that bad.

sugarskull

I thought that the shirts got more MSM coverage than anything else that day did. As far as his age goes so what he married the girl which is more than I can say about most teenage dads and also not relevant to the situation. The msm might be trying to make these connections to discredit us but don't let them. If it was DS most people would be saying that any attention brings awareness to pizzagate but not this family?

keepthefaith

Nope, the family are utter loons in the eyes of non-pgate civilians.

sugarskull

What makes them any loonier the rest of us? Please do tell because I think I missed the middle part. They certainly got the eyes of the MSM more than (THANK GOD!) David Seamans antics did.

keepthefaith

cartoon shirts; 16 year old dad, feral looking. etc.

IPleadThe2nd

do you realize you sound like a crazy raving old lunatic? Let it go!

keepthefaith

you sound like a pedo.

IPleadThe2nd

Yeah!! Good one!

UnicornsAndSparkles

They don't even look feral. They look like a nice young family.

keepthefaith

Maybe where you come from....

sugarskull

The dad was 16 when his 9 year old son was born but I digress you seem to want to vilify this family and I do not end argument.

keepthefaith

Grow up.Its not vilifying - its pointing out facts.

IPleadThe2nd

How do you know the kids wasn't adopted? Or the wife had the kid from a prior relationship? you don't have facts you have opinions

keepthefaith

Please shut up and go away.

IPleadThe2nd

Awww, what a great response! What a shame that rational conversation and differences of opinion are so hard for you to handle.

kestrel9

Why are you criticizing the family? You think their picture discredits pizzagate? No, it's the written content of Daily mail article that was intended to discredit pizzagate by promoting fake news, i.e. that "all there is to know about Pizzagate is the idea that Hillary was selling kids in the basement of a D.C. Pizza Parlor." For the MSM that is as far as they will ever go to talk about it, other than warning people off the subject by invoking the Edgar Maddison story. They summed it up:

"WHAT IS THE PIZZAGATE CONSPIRACY?   The 'Pizzagate' conspiracy is based on claims Hillary Clinton and her campaign chief John Podesta ran a child sex abuse ring at the Comet Ping Pong pizzeria in Washinton D.C. ( that is the beginning and end of what the MSM will report )

Some of the rumors claimed that kidnapped and trafficked children were being kept in the pizzeria's back rooms and secret tunnels where they were being molested. ( wasn't it Alex Jones talking like that early on while selling vitamins? )

Staff at the restaurant received a number of death threats after the fake news was shared on social media.

It started when emails belonging to Clinton's campaign manager, John Podesta, were released by WikiLeaks. The owner of the pizza shop, James Alefantis, was mentioned in the emails. He is a Democrat supporter and was talking about a fundraiser. ( wow, it's like JA is just some random small business owner! )

Users on the online message board 4Chan speculated Alefantis' Comet Ping Pong was part of a Democratic child trafficking ring and rumors swirled on social media, including Reddit and Twitter. ( but no comment by Daily Mail on FBI pedo codes symbols, and the interconnected businesses on the block and the dozens if not hundreds of other details that are not just some weird coincidence )

Reddit eventually took the step of banning the topic from its message boards. ( no discussion on the blatant censorship that happened before Edgar Maddison gave them cover as justification. )

There has been no evidence of the so-called abuse, no investigation and no victims who have come forward. ( NO INVESTIGATION )

Repeat, in regards to all WE DO know about pizzagate...there has been no reporting and:

NO INVESTIGATION NO INVESTIGATION NO INVESTIGATION NO INVESTIGATION NO INVESTIGATION

keepthefaith

I'm not criticizing the cause by any means (long time Voat/PGate supporter.)

But it would be remiss to not point out the florida family look like absolute lunatics

kestrel9

Having authentic grass roots protests is not what Americans expect to be served to be convinced about anything...they now equate 'convincing' grassroots with Billionaire funded astroturf events, filled with soundbites and nursery rhyme chants, highlighted with the full support of MSM using staged photo ops and fake interviews. (remember the fake news of cameraman guy pretending to be an outraged 'protester'). Staged and fake, intended to sway public sentiment and control narrative.

I don't think it would have been remiss at all, to not focus as much on how authentic voices will always pale in comparison to the Totalitarian/Media/Stagecraft. We have the opposition to do that by selecting the photos for tabloid headlines, while never explaining what the family meant by "following the story down the rabbit hole." Instead the story was limited to a glossing over with the "nothing to see here but crazy people" paintbrush.

People here pointed out in advance the disadvantage of not having a more well organized event as far as speakers go. Pizzagate is hard to sum up on a sign. The idea of "Rabbit hole" is descriptive, but the average person has no idea what that represents regarding pizzagate. The fascist Left has had decades of hiding and enabling the child rapists while perfecting the tweeking of people's emotions and training them to bark like Pavlov's dogs to command words like "RESIST", or "PUSSY GRABS BACK".

kestrel9

Haven't confirmed the assertions but believe that this should be included here..https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1748800

Titus stated firmly that Marcus Stevens of the DC Police verified receipt of this evidence. Below is the transcript of the conversation they had on livestream at the protest and here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5260&v=tk5qaZswT-oYouTube 3:50 "I'm independent journalist Titus Frost, 20,000 subscribers. What is your name?" "Kalide" "Kalide? from the Associated Press?" "Yeah" 4:20 "We've found more than compelling evidence. I'm connected to a hacker, I've put this out on You Tube, the video has over 40,000 views already. What we showed is that we sent the DC Police emails where they confirmed receiving data from the back end of Comet's website - on the back end of their website, was child porn." "Yeah." "We submitted that to the DC Police, DC Police officer Marcus Stevens confirmed receiving it. We then sent that information onto DHS, the FBI and Attorney General Sessions, none of them responded." "There is not any kind of investigation?" "Nothing, it is just crazy." "Yeah." "So there is real evidence out there, so just when you go back and tell your boss like do the real research on this. Just look at the evidence we have found and give us a fair shake." "Yeah definitely. I'm sure he will do that." "Thank you very much sir, it was very nice to meet you. Take care." 5:20

"It was the CPP website Redditors were trying to hack when Reddit pizzagate subreddit was shut down abruptly with no warning. This is according to at least one public figure who spoke about it on the radio about those events as an internet eyewitness after it happened. I noticed I got almost violently strong pushback on this when I posted it here the first time. Here is that post https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1477927 So events and evidence are leaning towards what Seaman's CIA contact said, which he discusses in a video already seen by many and a post written about it here https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1477927 EXCEPT WHOOPS! The video is already down after about 3 hours? WTF? and why?"

Viniferamn

They drove all the way from Florida to support this movement. They are good people. Who are you to judge them simply because you don't think they meet your ridiculous standards. You don't even know anything about them. They participated. Were you even there? Very mean spirited of you

keepthefaith

I'm not criticizing the cause by any means (long time Voat/PGate supporter.)

But it would be remiss to not point out the florida family look like absolute lunatics. If you think a 16 year old dad (taken advantage of himself, ironically) is normal, then you must be a lunatic yourself.

Jobew1

You do realize that that rag publication would've looked for any thing to try and discredit/poke fun right? I'm not reading the whole article because it hardly matters, but especially in the south having a child at 16 doesn't make u a lunatic

keepthefaith

Even by Southern standards, 16 is NOT normal. What's wrong with you?

Jobew1

it happens a lot down there. google it. what's wrong with you, focusing on this bs? as i said even if you're right and a 16 year old father is some type of abomination, what difference does it make in the big scheme of things? again the daily mail would've found something else to use to make the march look bad.

keepthefaith

It makes a big difference because nobody will take the story seriously. Try and keep up.

Jobew1

oh i got your point from the get go. i disagree that it's a good one, but we'll agree to disagree

keepthefaith

ok

TruthTrumps

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V____Z

No worries, no one takes the Daily Mail seriously.

They do admit no investigation has happened.

Scablifter

The scary thing is that a lot of them do take it seriously, the UK version is notorious for putting an anti peado headline on one page and an picture article saying how hot a Hollywood stars children are on the opposite page. A lot of people just can't see whats wrong with this, they just don't understand why others hate the DM.

The international online version of the Mail is lot more civilised than the UK paper is.

keepthefaith

Their 200million+ readership takes them seriously.

keepthefaith

YOU might like the tshirts, but the majority of sheeple out there DONT. This loon family have not helped the cause.

kestrel9

There are 1000s of people who bark like dogs when Hillary says 'Resist'. Sheeple are trained to have sound bite attention spans and to have their thoughts pre-approved by Big Brother. The PR war is not winnable...just an avalanche of undeniable facts and connections that paints a picture too f-ing big to ignore forever, that is what will tip the advantage.

rwb

That loon family is a decent minded family that does not rape or torture their children and who are wracked with the guilt of not being able to do much more than wear T-shirts and show up in the viper's nest to show support. Your comments are outrageous and an embarrassment to the cause.

keepthefaith

You conveniently didn't comment on the '16 year old dad' part.

And my comments could have been a lot more outrageous. Idiot. Grow up.

3141592653

So he had a child at 16 and stuck around to be DAD. Isn't that a great thing?

keepthefaith

Please educate yourself.

A 16 year old man who's been taken advantage of by a woman 5 years older, is a disadvantaged, weak, ineffectual, co dependent, mentally immature, abused runt. Mommy screamed at him every night until he crapped his bed. He is repeating the same patterns as an adult. Too scared to leave the woman.

That's why he's "sticking around."

IPleadThe2nd

You're ASSuming that he's the bio dad of the 9 year old. He could be the step father. That is not uncommon!

keepthefaith

Nope. Mail is quite good at describing "child from another relationship" is that is the case. This dude had a kid at 16. Period. Gross.

IPleadThe2nd

If they actually got that info from the family, and since Most families don't go around clarifying that for reporters I'm sure it was a non issue.

Even if it is his bio kid, so what? Only a weirdo with some odd hang up would have such disgust over this! Teens have kids all the time! It's not ideal but it's not YOUR business! Get over it!

3141592653

I was commenting on you saying he was 16 when he had a child. Nothing more. Also, you seem to know quite a bit about this guy

keepthefaith

nobody in my circle of friends has ever or would ever have a kid at 16 or dress their entire family in pizza slices.

Of course we support the cause, but not idiots who detract from it.

WhyAserverWasBuilt

Maybe he's raising her child from another man. How does poster know HE had a son at 16??? They went all the way from fla! I want a shirt!

keepthefaith

Seriously though. The comments section is out of control. Ugh. Ugh.

"Beawild, New York, United States, 10 hours ago

We have a problem in this country. A segment of the population is seething with anger and are prone to believe any conspiracy theories put out by RW kooks like Breitbart, Jones, Stone, O'Keefe and even FOX. The information they put out is as factual as that found in a supermarket rag. It seems that as long as what they see or read is against someone they don't like (like Hillary in this case) they will believe anything, no matter how preposterous. Trump took advantage of these folks by pushing a dystopic view of the world that is not based on reality. Sigh...

Judgejewdy

Did you forget that they pay people to post negative things?

keepthefaith

I didn't forget this, no. But the majority of the Mail's 200million+ readership won't know this. Or believe it.

keepthefaith

The comments sections says it all:

"KSMom, Kansas City, 9 hours ago"

Idiots like this are why my kids summer trip to DC was cancelled didn't want to deal with crazies and protestors like this

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Forgetmenot

Haters are gonna hate.....this movement is not going anywhere. Notice they never mention voat...why? Because the rules although, annoying and controversial force is to have sources. just so this doesn't become a crazy lunatic fringe board. There is not much they can use here to discredit pizzagate. They will try though. The media is desperate to make this go away, their house of cards is toppling and people are starting to see them for who they are: a network of fraudsters who use dance smoke and mirrors to keep them brainwashed and distracted with the bread and circuses of Roman times. Cognitive dissonance exists and although the daily mail and 60 minutes featured pizzagate so did dr Phil and Ben swan. The labor secretary confirmation hopefully will bring pizzagate/pedogate Epstein connections front and center and force the main stream to discus this. More people will ask questions and the trail will lead them to the truth. The pedos and deep state are fighting back because they are losing. Trump is drying up their financial operations. All of those low level stings, all the pedo ring across the globe, that is the money supply for them. Add in the drugs that are being intercepted, they are fighting this on multiple fronts behind the scenes and losing. The media is spreading this movement and people will ask questions. Knock and the door will be opened. I know this to be true because it was how I was redpilled. I could tell the media had an agenda and through the comments posted on a yahoo article, then breitbart, then 4chan now here. I followed the breadcrumbs and one thing led to another 5 months later here I am at voat. The truth is liberating!