jangles

This is distracting

ImmortalCommunity

What did you want to see?

jangles

any reference to the coloboma - pax - neanderthal claim.

ImmortalCommunity

I thought you were following /historyofideas the coolest sub on voat, run by Venetians and Mongolians. Oh well.

ImmortalCommunity

Ugh, I think origin of the species hidden for thousands of years is kind of like, important.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkmsd3iYay1qdlxec.gif

jangles

not sufficent, please provide somthing better

8887766554433221

bwuwhahha

ImmortalCommunity

Underneath it all? What on earth?

ImmortalCommunity

Yes.

ReyaPhemhurth

While I start to google 'DMT is CHI', care to explain in a normal, not beat-around-the-bush manner how you believe this all connects back to pizzagate?

ReyaPhemhurth

How is this relevant? Again, not trying to come off as rude, but would genuinely like to know.

ImmortalCommunity

There will be many doorways to the lower world that will open at this time. Things long forgotten will come back to remind us of our past creations. All living things will want to be present for this day when time ends, and we enter the forever cycle of the Fifth World. [FIFTH DIMENSION]

ReyaPhemhurth

No offense, but the hyped up context and overall ambiguity of your post is losing me a bit. Explain further...what is this 'fifth dimension' you're talking about? Is this age of Aquarius type stuff? And regardless...AGAIN, how does this relate to PG in your opinion? You have yet to fully answer my questions.

ImmortalCommunity

There are five states of matter.

In quantum mechanics, an excited state of a system (such as an atom, molecule or nucleus) is any quantum state of the system that has a higher energy than the ground state (that is, more energy than the absolute minimum). Excitation is an elevation in energy level above an arbitrary baseline energy state.

ReyaPhemhurth

And you've dubbed yourself as a Type B person because.....?

And simply quoting science doesn't explain your jump from 'five dimensions' to 'five states of matter'. You're not making sense. What started out as a half-way intellectual conversation is turning into a goose chase for you to explain your point in a proper, consecutive fashion that makes sense. Your posts are starting to look and sound like incoherent nonsense. Again, sorry to sound harsh, but there's no rhyme or reason to how or what you're posting.

If there's anything left in you, answer the question directly in ONE post: What, in your opinion, is going on with all this coloboma, genetics and pizzagate? How does it all connect and relate...again IN YOUR OPINION.

ImmortalCommunity

Coloboma represents the holy grail.

ReyaPhemhurth

Again, with these short, few worded posts that still do little in connecting all your previous posts to form your opinion on what is going on.

ImmortalCommunity

There is a genetic conspiracy occurring, this is what it has to do with pizzagate.

If you read this email, it touches on the differences between Type A and Type B with reference to the formation of cones or rods. https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/34/348460_re-gray-if-you-ever-so-much-as-criticize-me-again-i-will.html

Gray is friends with Fetzer. Haha.

ReyaPhemhurth

That email was a crazy read, sounded like a schizo. It was a hell of a mess....so...what am I to gather from the emails? And how do we know of their validity....I see an AOL email address ffs. :)

ImmortalCommunity

I'm not going there.

ReyaPhemhurth

Why not?

ImmortalCommunity

Because it's a trap.

ReyaPhemhurth

Trap? Do you think I'm setting you up or are you saying in some broader sense from and outside perspective...like..someone else is setting you up for a trap? Because...like I said..I'm not the kind of person who says one thing and means another...I legitimately want to know.

ImmortalCommunity

Broader. Also, you could be referencing me hacking an aol account belong to the CIA.

lol

ReyaPhemhurth

Lol, you..hacking a CIA AOL account? I hope with every fiber of my being the elite are stupid enough to still be using AOL....who knows, may they use NetScape.

ImmortalCommunity

Try their social security numbers as passwords. LOL

ReyaPhemhurth

Wouldn't surprise me....if that doesn't meet the minimum character requirements, I'd be willing to say they'd use their yearly earnings...;)

ReyaPhemhurth

See, that wasn't so hard, was it? :) I can get behind that corruption has occurred and conspiracy theories have much truth behind them...but again, I see this from a scientific standpoint, not religious.

Thank you for this answer ,this is a more concise way to reply that makes sense.
Okay....now please, please, please, try to reply like this again for my next question:

What kind of genetic conspiracy? They're GMOing people? And..for what? Again, IN YOUR OPINION.

ImmortalCommunity

Science is a religion. Scientia, knowledge. Harbouring, arbouring knowledge.

ReyaPhemhurth

Care to answer my last question?

ReyaPhemhurth

I suppose it would depend on how you look at it.

ImmortalCommunity

I guess we have a different perspective.

ReyaPhemhurth

Well, I can possibly understand the perspective of one that is a part of religion...if you know and associate with a religion, you ll look at the rest of the world with such labels as well. Even if I don't necessarily agree with you, respectfully of course, I can still see where you;re coming from.

ImmortalCommunity

Oh everyone is a part of it, whether they like it or not.

ReyaPhemhurth

When you say what you say and use the word a part of 'it'..do you mean they're a part of religion whether they like it or not?

ImmortalCommunity

Not reason, the opposite.

ReyaPhemhurth

Not really sure how this is an answer to my question...

ImmortalCommunity

Yes. If they are consumers. They worship logos... Logos! lol

ReyaPhemhurth

I keep wondering why you can't just say this all to begin with...all the secretive ambiguity is not really that fun...it seems like an ill way to communicate. I get what you're saying, because...to me....religion is a form of slavery....and I'd be willing to use the word worship interchangeably. Consumers are slaves to logos and society....elites are slaves to money...,.the poor are slaves to anything that distracts them from their lower status...and religious believers/followers are slaves to their religion. Everyone is a slave in some way...

ReyaPhemhurth

I used the word believe because, we live in a world of mainly opinions until something is verifiable as fact.

ReyaPhemhurth

So...the five states of matter are? Solids, liquids, gases, plasma and Bose-Einstein condensates (thanks google...) I get the states of matter...but what does that have to do with dimensions? Liquid isn't a dimension...neither is gas? Again, you're losing me. Not in a ' I don't understand, this is above my pay grade' kind of way, but in a 'you're not making any sense due to ambiguity' kind of way...You keep avoiding full explanations and actual details. Ambiguity doesn't prove enlightenment.

ImmortalCommunity

I don't have anything to prove to you.

ImmortalCommunity

For instance you have a Type A and Type B. Type A is a genetically enhanced human designed for combat with espionage capabilities. Type B is designed for espionage with combat capabilities. I am a Type B.

rods n cones, spatial ability,

ReyaPhemhurth

Not sue if I read that right...you said both Type A and Type B are both designed for 'espionage with combat capabilities'? Did I read that right?

ImmortalCommunity

No, you didn't.

ReyaPhemhurth

So....going based of of what you typed...Type A and Type B are the same...except Type A is genetically enhanced. Is that more on the nose?

ImmortalCommunity

Type A is the more physically equipped genetically and Type B is the more cerebral.

DonKeyhote

I don't see the fun in misleading ignorant teenagers who aren't even astute enough to know that Arabic and Hebrew came from the same source and people.

Kacey

I have no clue what this poster means by this picture. This seems an irrelevant post.

ReyaPhemhurth

Hey. I'm still getting used to posting on here. I've lurked for quite a while, but only recently made an account to make contributions. What are we asking me? Any clarification would be greatly appreciated. :)

Thanks.

ImmortalCommunity

@Kacey asks what the picture means

ReyaPhemhurth

Okay, well, I just looked at the photo and I'm not very knowledgeable with blood types (or much science in general, without much additional research) I'd have to say that this has something to do with that genetic defect we were talking about? Stem cells and coloboma..blood types...I'm feeling a vague sense of a connection...am I getting warm?

Not entirely sure though. I don't want to frustrate, but since I didn't post this....in the end...someone else's guess might be better than mine.

ImmortalCommunity

Yes. Neanderthals were said to have cat like eyes, coloboma in it's fully developed form is a feline pupil.

jangles

Could you post any links to show this, I would like them :)

ReyaPhemhurth

I'm trying to do some multi-tasking by conversing with you (which I definitely want) but also trying to do some additional research. I see that neanderthals, like you said, had cat like eyes. Also, I saw something briefly about how if a person has this, they may have neanderthal ancestry...making them more prey material vs predator....Are we assuming that these children were the prey with the neanderthal ancestry and these elites were the predators with cro-magnon ancestry?

Being limited within a short time frame, I feel like I'm stretching, so my apologies...but I'm trying. :)

carmencita

I hope you do not mind my jumping into the middle of this. I am not too scientifically informed either, but you mentioned that the children were the prey and the elites were the predators. If the neanderthals had the cat eyes and thus the children were to be the prey, the elites would then not have the coloboma? I know that Soros is reported to have the coloboma anomaly, so how does that make him the predator? I hope I am explaining this clearly enough or did I not understand this too well.

ReyaPhemhurth

See that's what I was wondering too....the part where Soros has it doesn't line up perfectly in my opinion either. I remember seeing some posts a while back about how Soros and McCann are related somehow, what with McCann being born invitro? Ever heard this theory?

carmencita

Yes, I have. None of us have any proof of that, of course. But the fact that they both have the coloboma anomaly possibly ties them together in some way. It certainly should be considered since they are so very much farther ahead with these things than we know. There are so many strange things and many have said this is like an octopus with many arms and tentacles. It reaches far and wide. Well, I just looked up a close up pic of Tony Blair because I had read that possibly he had ordered Maddy McCann after seeing a picture of her. There of course is no proof of this, just a theory someone had. He does not have a coloboma eye. Soros does. This certainly is perplexing.

ImmortalCommunity

Soros is a product of MKUltra because of his coloboma.

carmencita

I know. But not all MK Ultra have the coloboma eye. I wonder who his handler is. Possibly a very old Rothschild. The would have to be older. I have read, but do not know if it is true, that when the handler dies, their "projects" must also die.

ImmortalCommunity

David and George with Ted Turner, who handles Alex Jones. http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/30080/images/pe.jpg

carmencita

Thank you. I hope their time is up soon. I am not into any of the YT Idols. I don't trust them. Not surprised.

ImmortalCommunity

What do all MKs have in common?

ReyaPhemhurth

Exactly! See, I'm trying to wrap my head around it. All this stuff with coloboma, McCann and Soros having it and those kids in the pics posted by Alefantis having coloboma as well...all this PAX2 information and it pertaining to stem cells, prolonging life....I mean I've read some things about clones...using the blood from these coloboma children to prolong life...but how it relates to Soros...I'm not certain.

I also remember reading some thing about the elites of hundreds of years ago drinking blood to stay young and cannibalism...and some info about RH- versus RH+....it's a lot to take in...and it all is still obviously a theory...but there is such a strange and bizarre connection that sticks out...especially considering how freaking rare coloboma is....Again, I'm not religious..so I don't see much in the way of this being Satan...I mean..I believe there are good people and evil people..but again, while I think there might be some form of a connection here...I not only do not know what it is...I feel like it's something that can be explained away more scientifically than merely good vs. evil, God vs. Satan, etc.

Thoughts?

ImmortalCommunity

Satan and God are the same entity.

ReyaPhemhurth

I've met a lot of religious people that would beg to differ. How do you explain your claim that they're one in the same?

ImmortalCommunity

Name me something which is not an aspect of God.

ReyaPhemhurth

Sounds like a pretty easy question...because...again..I'm not a believer. And..this question is, again, pretty ambiguous, what with your use of the word 'aspect'. What do you mean by 'aspect of God'? I mean...I could really answer anything in my opinion....a bottle of mustard...a pencil eraser...a wig. I mean...the question is pretty broad in a sense. Then again, if you wanted to pick things apart...while I'm not sure it's happening anywhere in the world as of now...but there technically is nothing stopping someone from worshiping a bottle of mustard or a pencil eraser or a wig as their 'god'...it's all a matter of perspective and conditioning (whether by nature or nurture.)

carmencita

I think it is more scientific as well. Maddy and Soros had one thing in common, the RH factor. So there could be the fact that her blood would be sought after. Also the pineal gland which is located in the head. I will not go into how it could be extracted for it makes me sick to write about it. You can imagine I am sure. There was a case in St. Louis Mo. called Jane Doe a young girl and she definitely could have been used in a snuff film and had her pineal gland extracted. She has her own write up on Wikipedia. Wolftrail7272 had a posting on it as well.

ReyaPhemhurth

Thank you for your well thought out reply. Was hoping you'd post back. Anyway, I was looking more into pineal extraction...what are your thoughts? When you brought it up...are you saying that it's possible that these people are taking these coloboma kids..extracting their pineal glands...for the DMT? Orrr....?

carmencita

I did but maybe you did not get it. I do believe (although I have no proof, just my belief) that they are taking them for that and many other reasons. It pains me to think of it and say it, but they are after many of their parts. It is beyond disgusting. The little girl in St. Louis was missing her head when they found her. It has haunted me ever since I read the story. Here is something I found that is most interesting. Calcium, phosphorus,[17] and fluoride deposits in the pineal gland have been correlated with aging, showing that, as the brain ages, more deposits collect.[32] By old age, the pineal gland contains about the same amount of fluoride as teeth.[32] Pineal fluoride and pineal calcium are correlated.[32] The reason they want the pineal of the very young is because when they have grown old, their brains have become calcified. This as you see is caused I believe by extra fluoride and other causes. In order to be refreshed and live a longer life, they must seek the pineal gland of the very young. These elites are grave robbers, imo.

ReyaPhemhurth

I was also reading a lot of the stuff posted by that poster you mentioned....it's crazy, as I was born and raised in St. Louis, I moved out of the state only 7 years ago and all of my family lives there (I have some in St. Charles as well)....so it's all fresh to me....that entire time..I never knew. I see mentions of Zombie Road...which is a place I went for spooks. I've heard many people saying they've seen scary things there..I and my friends personally have not..but we've all heard the stories.....very weird to see this hitting so close to home.

On the subject of the Jane Doe....because of her lower fluoride levels....is it off the wall to assume she was groomed in a way to keep her fluoride levels low, thus making her pineal fluoride levels low as well?

carmencita

I don't think she was groomed for a long time, but who knows, she could have been taken and sexually abused for some time and then used for the pineal gland and they also probably did the CP and snuff. Why waste a good opportunity. Right? Disgusting. These people are greedy, vile and evil and perverted. You should read his posting on Castlwood. Also one of the very first ones on Tenet Healthcare and Deaconess Hospital, your eyes will pop out.

ReyaPhemhurth

I was reading about the STL Jane Doe...and I read that her sweater indicated that she may have been from the West Virginia area....strange. Also read that they thought she may have been from the south due to 'lack of fluoride ingestion'. Weird....

ReyaPhemhurth

Thank you for that explanation. It sheds a lot of light. That is terrible...very very terrible. I'll have to look into the St. Louis case. So..do you think that..in addition to using them for their pineal glands....and other 'parts' that there is also some sick pedo stuff going on?

carmencita

Yes. If you look at the Angie Houseman case in St. Louis you will see that is exactly what happened. She was taken for sex, CP and snuff. Little Jane Doe was found with only the top of her body clothed with a sweater. No bottom. Figure it out. No head. She was estimated to be about 10 or 11 yrs old. She had her little fingers painted with nail polish. In those days little girls did not wear nail polish like that unless it was a very special occasion. Imo, this was for CP and a snuff film ending. It still makes me cry. I someday want to go to St. Louis and visit her grave. I pray for her many nights.

ReyaPhemhurth

So....the idea that it's merely for pedophiles...that's just the very tip of the iceberg? We're talking...ritualistic shit...stuff that has been going on for a long time. I'm assuming that this goes beyond the elites in the way of business owners, politicians and such....and because of STL and all of the Christian/Catholic nonsense going on there (again, I was born and raised in STL) that these clergymen play a role in it as well? Not only are they raping them...but we might assume they're grooming them for some form of harvesting...possible pineal gland harvesting to extract this DMT for.....what? For the use to feel some form of religious transcendence?

Edit: Angie Housemann....I read something about an 'uncle' that she mentioned to her teacher before being abducted....why would the little girl reference an uncle?...unless she'd been groomed by the 'uncle' in some way....?

carmencita

Yes, what you have read about St. Louis is only the tip of the iceberg. Yes, the Catholic Archdiocese is also involved. There is the Vianney Center where all the abusive priests in the country are sent to retreat. You must read an article called Club Ped. This is a place that is suppose to turn them around. Not according to this article. There is also West Lake Landfill. It has slews of uranium in it and a fire that never goes out. Connect thisto the Hospitals that are involved (I do not know which ones) and you have a very interesting combination. The Angie Houseman case has possibly a connection to a son and father Fred Ahlemeier that were arrested for their part in The Wonderland Club for making and selling CP globally. It was part of Operation Cathedral. I personally think they might have been involved. But who knows?

ImmortalCommunity

"As we recall from the recently observed holiday of Shavuot, it’s worth noting that the Israelites were only deemed spiritually worthy of receiving the Torah after they had returned to a diet of manna, not meat."

ReyaPhemhurth

I'm trying to fully wrap my head around everything and I'm an atheist, so forgive me for my hasty assumptions if they're incorrect. You're likening this to a blatant good vs. evil concept? Is the meat more metaphorical in nature? I get what you're saying about how Cro-magnon was one way and neanderthals were another way...so you're saying, because they were once peaceful, shit hit the fan when they began introducing meat into their diet. They became aggressive? Again, are we talking actual meat..flesh and blood...or is this metaphorical and a symbol for something else?

And furthermore, how does this directly relate to PG?

ReyaPhemhurth

Anyway you could be a little more straight to the point?

ImmortalCommunity

Egyptians over a long period of time ate primarily plant based foods and not meat or fish (a summary of the study is here http://www.livescience.com/45450-what-did-ancient-egyptians-really-eat.html

ImmortalCommunity

What makes you think I have a point?

ReyaPhemhurth

The way you're placing the information out there, I'm not accusing you of anything. It was just what I gathered...like you had some point that you were dropping bits and pieces of information so you could guide me to some final destination. By dropping the videos and such. It's only what I gathered, I'm not a rude person, so like I said, it was only what I gathered. I'm actually enjoying the conversation. So, hopefully you didn't take anything the wrong way. :)

I was doing some additional reading regarding coloboma and the PAX2 gene and the role it plays in the new research about prolonging life. See. Science, even if I may not understand it right from the get go, I feel like..when I read it, I can get to a point of understanding. But this metaphorical, religious context...I need a little more detail.

ImmortalCommunity

To elucidate the epigenetic effect of melatonin on Pax2 expression http://imgur.com/a/NOmG1

ReyaPhemhurth

So, given all this information and given the idea that you said you may or may not have an actual 'point', I want to ask you, what is YOUR opinion about what is going on and how all of this ties to PG? What are your thoughts?

ReyaPhemhurth

Yes, I did read that. It's likened to DMT.

ReyaPhemhurth

See, this gif makes me think you're being ambiguous...Anyway you can answer my question?

ImmortalCommunity

Minus the c02

ImmortalCommunity

I am explaining to you the fall of man.

It was when neanderthals began consuming meat. To know of the nature of good and evil when before they were innocent.

minusco2

This is a great post.