Thank you Honeybee and thanks for the great video you did on Mark Pincus.

Full timeline for the handkerchief story

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1750186

I advise against a false either/or explanation. I still beleive the podesta email 'map' is a 'trophy' that has DNA evidence, but coincidentally 'minor attracted person' fits the acronym as well

The question is, is my agenda true? Is what I'm saying correct? I get downvoated all the time even when my post is a neutral and accurate fact. People call this trolling, but I am not trolling, not simply doing this to get a rise from folks. I'm sincere.

I'm here people because human beings are prone to witch hunts. It happens over and over again in our history. Once we forget the lessons we learned from the last one we on to one again.

I'm on here because conspiracy theories are terrible for a democracy. And it appears in order to believe pizzagate, you have to already have believed several conspiracy theories prior to this. It's the only way it makes sense.

We are all susceptible to conspiracy theories because we are human and we all have cognitive flaws. Happens to both smart and dumb folks and on the left and on the right. A proper grounding in skepticism and logic can help you check yourself and keep these at bay. Doubt is a gift. Otherwise, we can fool ourselves into believing our own bs. Did you know you can train yourself to become more paranoid? You can actually do damage to yourself this way. Our brains love to make connections between things. The chemical dopamine is released in our brains when we make connections. When you throw logic aside mere connections can become facts and you can build these elaborate false palaces built on nothing. For example, how many months into this are we, and people still believe there's a connection between Besta Pizza and Comet Ping Pong. This based on nothing more than they are two businesses near each other selling the same product. In every other way they seem different and not even friendly to each other.

I'm on here because huge amounts of assertions on here falls apart with the slightest application of logic.

I'm on here because the sale of uranium one poses no threat to the united state and the clinton foundation is an innovative and genuine charity.

I'm here because there will be no child trafficking arrests of the main principles and at certain point, they are going to realize, this grand unified conspiracy is bunk. The people who do the most against child trafficking..... are governments and law enforcement even if some folks who are part of that are shady. That association is not guilt.

That they have actually been involved in a massive invasion of people's privacy on bunk. How would you feel if you daughter is going to grow up and the first one thousand google results of her name are false accusations that her parents molested her or pimped her out.

At some point folks are going to give up on this and when that happens I want people to be able to go back see this was known at the time. That had they applied a little doubt and a little logic, they didn't have do this to themselves.

Even the guys who made the 9/11 truther movies realized they were wrong.

so anyway, I have my reasons.

This came out when twitter gate happened, too.

There are a bunch of pedo subs on reddit that I reported to the FBI myself (not that they'll do anything) that refer openly to MAP = Minor Attracted Person

So a "map that might be pizza related," or whatever the line was, might mean a Minor Attracted Person that is related to (and rents out or sells) children? I hate to jump to conclusions, but this makes WAY more sense now than it did earlier.

Various cartoons including Looney Toons use hankerchief waving when a character is trying to flirt...ugh

No it is not. I talked about this in my response u obviously read it and came up with your own conclusion. Pillows are PILLS as in sedation drugs for children to keep them sedated. Makes sense. They would not have a bunch of prostitutes hiding around the house in the context of the email that does not fit.

Hey it's Alan Nowhere from YT. Gateway job recently guys. Honeybee I will post a video response today. There is some import info I have for you.

@Honeybee_ Thank u SO much for all of your work. I've been watching all your videos u are amazing. PLEASE READ THIS I posted it months ago on a deleted thread on this topic there is useful info, sorry it's cluttered but it talks about this particular email in depth.

(After the party with the children in the pool) August 27, Rob Mnookin emailed: Thank You Dear Herb, A short note to say how much Dale and I enjoyed last night. What a stimulating evening, thanks no doubt to the Sandler rules and the fantastic company. What a pleasure to see Susan again, and meet Steve, Mary and John, and Hans. Note: “Sandler rules” and “stimulating company”, possibly referring to sex toys in a touchy-feely game of blindfold domination. The next get-together was a bit rougher under the Podesta rules. On September 1, the day before Sandler’s departure, the ex-banker, daughter Susan and John Podesta hired a realtor named Kate to drive them to inspect rental properties. They visited a large rental home “at the end of the road” on Kuffie Point, which juts into Lake Tashmoo, along with considering other houses located by a park, facing the yacht club and at Stonewall Beach, all with minimal neighbors and out of hearing range of public places. Why seek out such isolated places? At around 4 p.m., the realtor dropped the trio off at the “Field house”, probably one of the larger rentals on Field Club Drive. The guest list for the end-of-summer party is not mentioned. On happy ending is that ever since the morning-after email exchange, savvy Kate was suddenly able to open her own interiors business instead of flogging rentals. From Kate. Tuesday, September 02, 2014 10:04 AM To: Sandler, Susan Cc: Sandler, Herbert Subject: You left something at the Field house Susan & Herb I just came from checking the Field house and I have a square cloth handkerchief (white w/ black) that was left on the kitchen island. Happy to send it via the mail if you let me know where I should send it. I also meant to inquire yesterday about the pillows you purchased. I can send them as well, if you let me know where they are in the house. Safe travels to all Kate Question: How really difficult is it to find pillows in a sparely decorated vacation rental? (PILLOWS ARE CODE FOR PILLS.) Susan immediately emails John Podesta, adding the extra code word “pizza”: Hi John, The realtor found a handkerchief (I think it has a map that seems pizza-related. Is it yorus? They can send it if you want. I know you're busy, so feel free not to respond if it's not yours or you don't want it. Susaner Why the big fuss over a handkerchief? How can a handkerchief be pizza-related? Why is the handkerchief on the kitchen island counter if the party-goers were slicing pizza on it? Are napkins or paper towels not included in a luxury resort home? And as one visitor to VOT put it: Who still uses a handkerchief in this day and age? The answers come from the same code used at Comet Pizza back in Chevy Chase. The handkerchief worn in a back pocket of jeans or shorts originated in the gay movement of the 1970s to identify one’s preferences in sexual roles, and soon got kinkier with the rising popularity of bondage, domination, sadomachism, golden showers (yellow) and coprophilia (brown). Domino’s pan pizza was not on the dinner menu. The main course was an underage girl delivered to the party. Drugged into semi-consciousness, she was put on the kitchen island, and probably taped down by the arms so as not to fall to the floor. Then the slapping and flogging with the Podesta rules, followed by oral sex and penetration, topped off by ejaculating on her, which accounts for the next morning’s sticky mess or “map”. Susan forwards the message. John Podesta, the presidential adviser and boss of the most politically correct lobby on gay issues and women’s rights, answers curtly, “It’s mine”. No doubt he’d treat a pet dog better than a homeless girl. So what then happened must have been a big IOU of appreciation from Susan when she phones Kate to tell the girl to wash up and dress, and to put her on a plane back to Washington DC, where one of the female staffers from Comet Pizza will pick her up at Dulles Airport. His conscience cleared, Podesta’s back to human rights advocacy and lobbying for clients. On Christmas Eve 2014, a package is delivered to Herbert Sandler, who is a Jew who celebrates Hannukah earlier in the month. I was sent by John Podesta. Now try to pick up the odd elements in the thank-you note: From: [email protected] To: [email protected] CC: [email protected] Date: 2015-12-24 21:42 Subject: Re: Cheese Sandler, Herbert [email protected] wrote: > Mary and John > > I think you should give notice when changing strategies which have been long in place. I immediately realized something was different by the shape of the box and I contemplated who would be sending me something in the square shaped box. Lo and behold, instead of pasta and wonderful sauces, it was a lovely, tempting assortment of cheeses, Yummy. I am awaiting the return of my children and grandchildren from their holiday travels so that we can demolish them. Thank you so much. I hope you and your gang are well. I miss you both Best wishes fro a merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Herb > > > > Ps. Do you think I’ll do better playing dominos on cheese than on pasta? > OK, for the benefit of the slow pokes, the first sentence states “when changing strategies that have been long in place”, indicating a break in the accustomed game plan, the game being dominoes. “Pasta” is a code word for underage boy. “Sauce” is about group sex. The gift of cheese is therefore an insider joke, since "cheese" is a code word for preteen girls. Return of “my children and grandchildren” is a pun, since in code it also can mean his team of adult and child partners for group sex. Doubting Toms still don’t believe? Then what does his PS mean?? “Do you think I’ll do better playing dominoes on cheese than on pasta?” If you can tell me how anyone can play dominoes on top of a bowl pasta or a plate of cheese, I’ll buy you a Domino’s pan pizza with extra anchovies, because it really stinks.

Wikileaks: JP responds to Susan Sandler's email and claims ownership of the handkerchief by stating -- "It's mine, but not worth worrying about." ( https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/55433) )

From the #PIZZAGATE Wiki, Pedophile Codes: " map = semen/minor attracted person" is listed. -- ( http://pizzagate.wiki/Pedophile_codes) )

Thus, BOTH definitions for 'MAP' are apparently correct. I've always wondered WHY the pedos used the strange word 'map' to signify semen and other body fluids on a handkerchief. I believe it simply RELATES BACK to the acronym 'Minor Attracted Person' . (It's almost like using the old WWII tag: "Kilroy Was Here" (ie. a PROUD PEDO is credited with this trophy)

I believe the OP-referenced 'handkerchief' from JP was UNSOILED when left and this is in agreement with OP's view. I think the 'map' and 'pizza' TERMS used by Ms. Sandler were definitely PEDO RELATED.

THANKS BEE FOR ALL THE FIRST CLASS RESEARCH YOU HAVE BEEN DOING ON THIS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TOPIC.

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EDIT: (1) (ie. a PROUD PEDO is credited with this trophy) and (2) I believe the OP referenced 'handkerchief' from JP was UNSOILED when left and this is in agreement with OP's view.. I think the 'map' and 'pizza' TERMS used by Ms. Sandler were definitely PEDO RELATED.

The hankerchiefs could be specialty-printed party favors. Only available at the party. Maybe it has a memento such as the the date and place printed in it. Maybe it has pizza printed on it. Or some of that vile artwork.

My question is WHY did she think it belonged to John? Why not some other guest? Was it monogrammed?

Hankerchiefs are under $10 at Walmart. A regular cleanup crew would have likely tossed a jizz encrusted hanky. Eew.

Unless the cleanup crew is aware of the significance of the nasty hanky.

Why save the hanky? And why think that it belongs to John, and not a guest of his?

Where is the hanky now? Did John claim it as his? Who has it now? WHERE is the infamous hanky? We know it's real.

Perhaps each person has their own specialty hanky printed or monogrammed.

Random thoughts concluded. Thanks for reading. 🏎

"One of the VAC presenters asked, very sensibly, if there was a handkerchief which indicated an interest in safe sex. The top told us there was and that was check or white but it was very difficult to get hold of these."

If this is true, this actually destroys the lie that that a white handerkerchief means signals pedophilia. Lots of people tried to create fake "evidence" that a white handkerchief meant pedphilia. The took screenshots of of the hanky code and photoshopped in a defintion for white.

Code on the left is the real image from Wikipedia, on the right they deceptively photoshop in a meaning. https://i.redditmedia.com/LmoiOiNWm8upNGhf7AdgaWk96jsPrMBW-V9oUe4RR-c.jpg?w=589&s=a3c1aa320e34993f54bc145f0d5e01e3

MAP defined - Minor Attracted Person(s) ??? This makes even the sentence have even less sense.

Also If you really think this has to do with the old bandana code, answer me this. The code was intended for use in bars with people you never met. You could see if your interested matched without even talking. Why would you need a nonverbal code at private party with friends?

As @dfrog mentioned interesting that early on J Z Drizlin owner of "pizza packet" throws parties in Chicago owns MAP financial.

I wrote this in the comment section of the video but thought I would add it here: what if some of these people use literal map imagery in their symbolism? Like the triangle, big hand/little hand, etc.? Even if this email turns out to be nothing, "Minor Attracted Person(s)" is still a thing as Honeybee shows, and using map imagery could be something worth keeping in mind when researching.

Code so complex that even the people using it couldn't figure it out.

I think the "handkerchief" being used as a communication device to find other pedophiles is a brilliant deconstruction of that email. Excellent!

Great job! You are very appreciated for all the hard work you do

Thank you HoneyBee! I came here right after watching your latest YouTube vid. Your research is really shining light on a lot of the crazy things going on. Keep it up!

Cheese pizza=child porn Pizza=porn Handkerchief=symbolfor interest in safe sex Map=minor attracted person

OK.

"The realtor found a CODE GARMENT FOR SAFE SEX(I think it has a MINOR ATTRACTED PERSON that seems PORN-related. Is it yorus? They can send it if you want. I know you're busy, so feel free not to respond if it's not yours or you don't want it."

Im sorry, anyway you cut it , it just doesn't make sense. Plus, these kids are already kidnapped, they don't need to be alerted via code that someone wants to have safe sex with them. That's more for a gay club or swingers parties. A handkerchief with a pizza related map is exactly what it sounds like.

MAP- Minor Attracted Person was brought up early on and was called out as being a ridiculous idea. Hopefully all those early research threads will come back.

WTG honeybee. I just did a search for girl map, found some crazy pics. I'll keep researching. You da best!!

Handkerchiefs

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails//fileid/58207/15808

Translates to -Please send your new female scarf to knot the law, please smile. Please male transfer to the female family or friends.

It has 30 or so jpg attachments, of females wearing scarves/handkerchiefs. Another email from this individual contains panda bears, which is not so odd but 2 kids are present in the photo's.. Most of the emails from this individual contain kids in the attachments, some you can see clearly some you can not.

Thanks for this. It helps make these codes clear and understandable to those of us who are thankfully non-affiliated. These people are so very dark.

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