cult_of_philanthropy

I wonder who is taking the video of the openings? Mostly because in the videos I've seen she is not actually seen taking off the wig to perform. In the video link above it stops before she gets to that point. On a YT vidoeo by Random Rants of Ryan titled, "PIZZAGATE- NO!! Majestic Ape IS NOT James Alefantis!!!!", I noticed at the opening the videographer seems to intentionally pan to the right away from the wig wearer. Again, panning to the right, as the wig wearer moves to the left to remove the wig and begin performing. During the opening monologue a doorway, or some kind of opening, can be seen to the left behind the equipment. Why is the camera deliberately panned away?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6P3eNlvgeI his video didn't convince me of his claim.

I agree with the subliminal message aspect as well.

V____Z

Yikes. Just watched the video, it's about four times sillier than I expected.

Look at this comparison photo on twitter https://twitter.com/ThankYouBernie/status/803839032732123136 in the replies, it says that when this hit Voat, there was a graph comparing the hands and mouth, and it went viral, then the supposed shooting happened the next day. Were we getting too close?

cult_of_philanthropy

Here is another video by Ryan, although a different topic, with a doorway behind the keyboard equipment set up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR1w6IkpE6o

V____Z

Now that is an interesting observation. I actually love Ryan but had to unfollow him after that video, which I didn't watch. The premise is absurd. How can you know that someone wearing a wig, thick mask, and form-hiding clothing is the same person every time? Absurd. I follow him again now, but that was a silly video.

cult_of_philanthropy

I agree on the unfollowing of him. I lurked a while here before joining and submitting. In the beginning, I watched everything that came out by anyone. It made no sense why he was SO emphatic about saying it wasn't JA. Did someone threaten him? I also had to stop watching him because I just couldn't handle his constant sniffling, lol. I have seen another video with the same scenario but can't for the life of me remember who posted it on YT to link it.

In this video, however, I do think that is JA. Maybe not in the entire video, but the mouth and hands seem the same in parts of it.

Heavy Breathing "Airtight" album Indiegogo pitch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_gGhrIO6ps .

V____Z

I believe so too. Which in no way means that the person who goes on the road and plays gigs is also JA, and which is why Ryan's video is downright ridiculous.

V____Z

God bless you.

VieBleu

Here is a whole study of the hands question, hope it helps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8lSGUovnOM

IMO it is pretty easy to spot when Kleinman is wearing the mask - her lips are definitely more rounded with a dip in the middle unlike Jimmy Comet's flat reptilian smirk.

V____Z

Flat reptilian smirk lol 👍😂

VieBleu

Glad to see this being discussed again, thx V___Z

Just to cement once and for all that the CIA is absolutely KNOWN to use music to torture here is this article on how pop songs were used in black sites to torture https://mic.com/articles/87851/11-popular-songs-the-cia-used-to-torture-prisoners-in-the-war-on-terror#.YZXJVleiG

So if pop songs can be used, how much better would be songs "made to order" for the purpose? The answer is of course they would curate their own torture music, as well as brainwash and mind control sonic "art" as well.

Secondly let's never forget how the CIA sees itself as a "groomer" of culture - that means all of us. And it is done by controling art, pop products, and the "journalism" that reports on culture. Start here - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html to understand how spreading the "art" sleaze scene around CPP could figure into a culture control agenda.

V____Z

To be honest, I'm not sure it's worth chasing. She seems a bit manic right now, and who knows where those links came from. If she is leaking anything of substance, we'll know shortly.

cakeoflightylight

WTF WHY was that post deleted???? My comment with the urban dictionary definition of jumping rope is now deleted as is the entire comment about the other definitions written by that user. Will will have to go find and repost.

Psalm144-1

The Heavy breathing element to PG is what grabbed my initial (disturbed) attention and overall kept me focused in investigating. Often overlooked and not discussed enough in my opinion. Everything about Heavy breathing make my spine tingle. There music videos are bizarre as heck! Can you say MKUltra?!

V____Z

Thank you for bringing that up. Many here have said this is actually dangerous to watch or listen to, it is mind control, or programming of some sort. I think that it's quite obvious, mostly in that it so clearly is not music, isn't even meant to be. And the pictures are meant to push pure evil, and ugliness, and sex with young children.

ThePuppetShow

You lost me when you claimed those are man hands. Look how manly Amanda Klinemanns hands are..

http://theapes.com/gfx/amandacone.jpg

V____Z

They look quite tapered to me, whereas in the video they are long and bony. These are not bony in the least

ThePuppetShow

Are you an alt for VeiBleu?

Definately not Alefantis hands if you're claiming more bony than Klinemann.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR0FFNWNwTtxE2JG-VPprhjEpV6eUS1SkXRCZhjG7Cf5xCY0AN-oQ

V____Z

That's a compliment! And VB did do a post about the dangers of watching Heavy B videos. Do you have a link to that by any chance?

ThePuppetShow

I do not. We used to get into debates about the hands, that's why I asked. I completely agree with the potential dangers of watching this shit.

VieBleu

Ah, the good ol' days.

This video tries to explore the question https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8lSGUovnOM

At this point I think Kleinman usually fronts the band, including that period "on the road" at pedo house parties, but James dons the mask when it suits him at :44 for example in that video THAT is JA in the Majestic Ape mask. His flat lipped smirk is simply unmistakable. It is my belief as well that JA produces Heavy Breathing, especially the videos, and is a "member" of the band but mostly behind the scenes, also a handler of Kleinman.

The purpose of the band was to produce mind control material for specific tasks and operations and also was an outlet for these puppet people who consider themselves "artists" whose credo is anything is acceptable in the name of "art". The reality is none of these people have never and will never have to please an actual art market or be financially viable in any way - they are 100% subsidized and on the dole so to speak.

ThePuppetShow

I agree with everything else you say here I just don't buy that it was JA that night. You can hear her chick voice at one point. I've lost faith that anything is going to be done about this anyway. Have a good night.

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AngB23

There is a lot of info being dumped by someone on Twitter right now. She has been uploading screen shots of tweets between her and G Webb for days...now files of stuff including things about JA

https://twitter.com/Gwenjackmann

https://twitter.com/Gwenjackmann/status/852910675122847744

V____Z

Yes, thank you for this. Webb has some people on Voat who will come after you hard if you question him or give any credence to this woman's tweets. Someone is saying she made them all up. if you read through them, that is impossible to believe. I find it equally impossible to believe we pizzagate researchers have someone like Webb, safe and sound posting multiple videos daily, outing the true perps. Distraction operation, and everyone seems to be falling for it.

V____Z

Webb has always said he doesn't want to talk about pizzagate, but will talk about every thing else. Google patent is so far outside the realm of pizzagate it kind of makes me wonder if his whole intention is to take us off the mark. Personally there are many conspiracies we could dig into, and I don't care one bit about Webb or his fathers patent. It helps no one to know. And children are still screaming out for us.

Ovi-Kintobor

You used Wendy's wrath & bizarre false flag against Webb (+ Assange and many other, I hoped you really have found the time to READ her tweets, obviously not) as the ultimate truth in order to discredit his work.

https://twitter.com/Gwenjackmann/status/853029417093910529

Now she has made a public statement about Webb, that he never lied and never tried to fool her, you suddenly don't care about him and still want to discredit his work ?

Do you even understand what he is trying to expose ? Why he is trying to collect proofs the public could understand & take in consideration ?

Do you even understand the world being ruled by drugs cartels ?

Do you really understand "why kids ?", "for what ?", "for who ?".

Also, you are absolutely dishonest : Webb talked about pizzagate and admitted CPP was kind of a front-end for provisioning kids.

You are still convinced that everything is just obscure whenever this huge shitstorm is actually pretty understandable and rely on corruption, sex, drugs, money and old fucks being old fucks.

The whole story he is unraveling IS what you call pizzagate. You are just focusing on children suffering and trying to play the white knight, thinking you will save children by showing how much pedofantis is satanic.

There is an obvious sectarian part in the story that we are ALL aware of. You just do not understand what is the use of such cults. That's a shame, 'cause you are missing important information on how it actually works.

To conclude : voat is full of white knights who cannot fully understand the extent of this scandal, and are unable to connect dots.

You are playing on big words "children are screaming for us", "distraction", "we pizzagate researchers". In the end, you are promoting disinfo while we urgently need to focus on exposing existing ratlines.

Children are being abused, yeah, we know. Thanks. But it does not help in any way to discredit some useful info & hard work because you came right into a false flag without ANY personal thinking.

By the way, his father's patent defined the basics of cordless phones/cellphones. Ask yourself some questions.

V____Z

I'm concerned with pizzagate. I'm not concerned with Webb's web, which it sounds like he has ensnared Wendy within. I was quoting Webb, from here :

George Webb: I try to steer away from the child trafficking in my videos because it is so unbelievable, people just immediately dismiss it as a conspiracy theory. If you have an FBI interview, that would be very interesting.

Now, like with Alex Jones, it's fine if they want to steer clear of certain subjects. My only objection is that they shouldn't be posted on v/pizzagate until they stop being limited hangouts, for whatever reason, whether it's a supposed lawsuit threat, or "no one will believe us anyway"

If he's trying to steer away from child trafficking, then he isn't part of pizzagate, and his videos are of no concern to our investigation, unless he provides some hard evidence like the kind he says he requires in order to cover it.

I found this comment interesting too, it's from the bottom of the comments:

"Pizza for an hour" doesnt sound like code for arms deal though. George Webb has done awesome job explaining how CF operates other than connecting it to child trafficking . Hes videos were shared here before but they got buried and those definitely are connected to this investigation as well.

THIS IS A LIMITED HANGOUT

AngB23

I don't watch his vids nor do I know who she is. But if someone cries out like this, I always think about Andrew Breitbart back in 2011. I think people can make an educated guess for themselves if there's validity to it or not. We'd be foolish not to at least read and find out what she is saying

V____Z

I agree. And she was immediately called a "whore" by someone here when these tweets were first posted. It's like what happened to Bill Clinton's victims. So ugly.

ThePuppetShow

I believe that was me, if this is the woman who has a husband and thought her and George Webb were falling in love. As a self proclaimed Christian, how would you describe that? Are you okay with her believing she was in love with a man other than her husband because she's pushing a narrative you want to hear? I'm with you on Webb, it's certainly strange he's still alive, or not censored, if what he says is true, but this woman isn't trustworthy if she would do that to her husband. Quit taking shit out if context to help it fit your narrative.

VieBleu

Um, you don't know the specifics of anyone's life. Judge not and be not judged. Maybe the divorce papers are in the mail, or she is abandoned.

V____Z

She never even saw him, and said that if she did meet up with him, she didn't want to be bad (cheat). He's calling her a whore because she fell in love with another man for a spell. Pretty low bar, I'd say.

VieBleu

I can't roll my eyes enough. You were very polite to that hypocrite, beyond the call of duty. onward.

V____Z

And upward. Happy Easter!

VieBleu

Same to u amigo. : ) <--------- real smile, snake free

V____Z

That snake smile was pretty cute too. Maybe "reptilian" is too nice for JA. How bout straight up "evil"?

V____Z

No, it wasn't out of context. And I cannot believe what I just read. What the fuck century is this?

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Ok, I acknowledge that you have some attitudes about women and love that are foreign to me, and about the idea that a good Christian is one who judges others and calls them whores. I also acknowledge that this may not be related to you being a troll, sorry about lumping you in there, but I had no idea.

AngB23

And same person who said I was spamming threads. Whether the woman has a Christian morals or not is not for us to JUDGE (again, true Christians shouldn't be judging) Did anyone try to open her files? I can't at work. If she truly has some evidence about Pedogate, WE ALL SHOULD WANT TO KNOW. FFS! It's about the damn kids isn't it?!

ThePuppetShow

Reply to your edit..

Does the Bible not refer to "The whore of Babylon"? If a woman is married and is seeing another man, what is that to you? Good morals? LOL

V____Z

Oh now you're saying she saw George? Bam. Lie.

ThePuppetShow

Sorry, been a bit busy. Lie? Really? I have no reason to lie. She said herself that she thought they fell in love. When I say "seeing" I mean dating, having contact with.

ThePuppetShow

So it's ok for some woman to whore around with another man as long as she's telling the story you want to hear. Got it.

HollandDrive

Yeah, by the same people who are down with Cernovich that CPP was entirely a "deep state psy op."

V____Z

Yep, they're no fools, they know where to send the trolls. The problem is, they don't have a clue how to make them look legit.

ThePuppetShow

You certainly seem to have the trolling down. You call yourself a Christian, but you believe a self proclaimed whore when it benifits your story. Funny P.S. I don't believe Comet was a distraction.